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tonmoy.dhaka
March 8, 2017, 02:01 PM
whats the difference?

https://www.channel4.com/news/from-hijab-to-burqa-a-guide-to-muslim-headwear

al Furqaan
March 10, 2017, 04:31 PM
https://www.channel4.com/news/from-hijab-to-burqa-a-guide-to-muslim-headwear

Did not realize there was a website explaining all the nuances of hijab, lol. Btw, khimar and hijab look the same to me.

But this was in intriguing video posted by Karim Metwaly:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mgw6y3cH7tA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DinRaat.
March 10, 2017, 07:34 PM
Is this thread still alive

iDumb
August 1, 2017, 09:30 PM
Is this thread still alive

yup!!


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/08/01/how-a-photo-of-empty-bus-seats-triggered-an-anti-muslim-fear-fest-on-facebook/?utm_term=.4ed18b8e298e


how do you want to be brain washed today?>

DinRaat.
August 17, 2017, 06:24 AM
Andddddd, here we go again, Pauline Hanson stirs the pot, by wearing a burqa to the parliament session.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/AYD8nQ97HmU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


I have negative feelings about this act, using a religious medium to express your political ideologies.

Now I believe in freedom of choice as much as the next person, but what I can`t stand is that when ignorant husbands force their wives to wear a burqa, stating that it is compulsory.

The quran tells us to dress modestly, wearing the hijab is compulsory, but the Burqa is more a cultural thing that has been manifested to become a religious ideal

DinRaat.
August 17, 2017, 06:24 AM
TBH, it was a improvement when she kept it on.

Jadukor
August 17, 2017, 08:01 AM
For a sec i thought it was darth vader

Yankees
August 17, 2017, 02:10 PM
Andddddd, here we go again, Pauline Hanson stirs the pot, by wearing a burqa to the parliament session.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/AYD8nQ97HmU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



Am I the only one that laughed?

Rifat
August 17, 2017, 03:52 PM
For a sec i thought it was darth vader

hahahahaha :floor:

iDumb
August 18, 2017, 09:27 AM
I still dont' understand this dumb f*** logic of burqa and terrorism. HOw many terrorirst attacks were done by ppl wearing burqas?

tHis racism phobia is so evident and all SHEEPS including brainwashed sheeps of this site stands behind it...

if there is a real credible security threat.. go ban it.... outcry will be due to principal not becuase banning the burqa will make ANY DIFFERENCE Whatsoever... it will barely affect anyone....

ppl love to waste time on shitt that's not gonna make difference.. dumb politicians and dumb ppl...

brockley
August 20, 2017, 05:21 AM
Idumb in bombs that have gone off in Russia were by black burqua widows of chechnian soldiers,they killed many.
Obviously wearing burquas in Russia worked the trick in those attacks.
That said I am undecided whether it should be legal or not.
Should women wearing burquas and the whole regalia,yes they should get searched just as everyone else does.

Ahsan
August 22, 2017, 01:57 PM
Dear Jadukor bhai, if these people had the slightest understanding of the below quote, there would not be any debate on the very topic of this thread!

On the other hand you are debating with someone who's favorite player is Ashraful (with all due respect to the player and his follower)! That tells you how much logic the follower can process for a sane argument!


Y
A book from god and a book written by man should be fundamentally different. With a book from god.. i would think that god would guide you and help you understand when you read without having a middleman involved. God ought to know the limits of human intelligence and would therefore write a book that can be inherently understood by all human beings

SportingBD
August 22, 2017, 02:15 PM
@Ahsan.

I thought the discussion about the book was done, completed between JK and me.

But somehow you came out of a hole? hmm.

If you have any valid comments/opinion to make do so bro.
Don't retreat to saying "Oh his a Ashraful follower" so his logics are irrelevant lol.

That's like a very poor and cheap tactics, when someone has no critical point of view.

It's like saying his a 'Donald Trump' supporter...so don't listen to his views, coz his logic is flawed.

Ahsan
August 22, 2017, 02:25 PM
hahahaha...BK dada same question here...when you know the answer from a scholar, please share.


My question is: How would you know who you are meeting on your date, during courtship etc., I mean with the Burqa on? I mean under the kala burqa, it could be a man meeting another man, then what?

Ahsan
August 22, 2017, 02:35 PM
Yup, I live in a guha near the desert. I only come out when "me want a banana"!

Poopya!

@Ahsan.

But somehow you came out of a hole? hmm.

SportingBD
August 22, 2017, 02:40 PM
Yup, I live in a guha near the desert. I only come out when "me want a banana"!

Poopya!

Based on your very low post count (since 2004), it maybe that what you say is very true:up:

DinRaat.
August 22, 2017, 11:03 PM
"If the Arabs had the choice between two states, secular and religious, they would vote for the religious and flee to the secular." ~Ali Al-Wardi (Iraqi sociologist)

Thoughts on this comment, I found it to be rather true.

tonmoy.dhaka
August 23, 2017, 11:31 AM
"If the Arabs had the choice between two states, secular and religious, they would vote for the religious and flee to the secular." ~Ali Al-Wardi (Iraqi sociologist)

Thoughts on this comment, I found it to be rather true.

Same for all conservative people who are faith bound. Definately true for Bangladeshis I have met lately. They would all love to come to Canada.

All the Bangladeshi's I have met in Canada love Justin Trudeau. They love him for his kindness. For his love of mankind, for he can see beyond a veil.
However imagine Justin Trudeau being the leader of Bangladesh, these same people would murder him for his love and kindness to the LGBT community. For his weed legalisation. For his ideology of a secular all inclusive country and society. For allowing descent and voicing opinions against all religion and no religion.
Hypocrites is the word I use to describe majority people in most muslim countries not just the arabs.

brockley
August 23, 2017, 09:18 PM
I don't think it should be judged culturally.
Definitely shawls combined with a burqua makes it difficult to search or even security judge if their any explosives.
Don't know why you guys ignoring what happened in Russia with the Black Widow bombers,they had a shawl and burqua.
If it remains then women must face the indignity of removing the burqua and then their shawl being checked.
It would be better for security if a muslim women wore jeans or slacks,a top and a hijab.

DinRaat.
August 23, 2017, 09:45 PM
I don't think it should be judged culturally.
Definitely shawls combined with a burqua makes it difficult to search or even security judge if their any explosives.
Don't know why you guys ignoring what happened in Russia with the Black Widow bombers,they had a shawl and burqua.
If it remains then women must face the indignity of removing the burqua and then their shawl being checked.
It would be better for security if a muslim women wore jeans or slacks,a top and a hijab.

I agree with you, If you come to Australia you should try to assimilate into the society, no offence, to anyone in the forum. But I don`t get how people can wear a full Burqa, when I speak to someone I want to see their face, heck! they can be Osama Bin Laden under that veil, muslims around the world should at least try to fit in, at the same time not drop their religious and cultural dedications.

brockley
August 23, 2017, 09:55 PM
I am not saying drop Muslim beliefs.
I don't think this primarily is 1.
If its cultural I undestand,but we take a stand against female circumcission and child brides,even tho Aboriginies sometime have child brides.
For me personally having lived in Wollongong 15 years,I am more accepting of ppl a bit different even the burqua.
As I said,jeans,dress,top and hijab fine for me.
I remember the chaser went in2 a store with a biker helmut and a stocking over a person's face,and the store owners went beserk.

NoName
August 24, 2017, 09:59 PM
"If the Arabs had the choice between two states, secular and religious, they would vote for the religious and flee to the secular." ~Ali Al-Wardi (Iraqi sociologist)

Thoughts on this comment, I found it to be rather true.

Desis would vote Liberal abroad but theocratic at home

Yankees
August 25, 2017, 12:18 AM
Same for all conservative people who are faith bound. Definately true for Bangladeshis I have met lately. They would all love to come to Canada.

All the Bangladeshi's I have met in Canada love Justin Trudeau. They love him for his kindness. For his love of mankind, for he can see beyond a veil.
However imagine Justin Trudeau being the leader of Bangladesh, these same people would murder him for his love and kindness to the LGBT community. For his weed legalisation. For his ideology of a secular all inclusive country and society. For allowing descent and voicing opinions against all religion and no religion.
Hypocrites is the word I use to describe majority people in most muslim countries not just the arabs.

It's the same in the States. All my desi family friends are Democrats, even though that's the party pro LGBT, secular party. My theory is that in the west, we are minorities. So we champion other minority's rights like the right for gays to marry. Because the same people fighting for their rights will also fight for a Muslim to practice their religion. But back in Bangladesh, the same people are not minorities but make up the majority of the society, and so want a society that suit their belief best. It is hypocritical, and in that sense western countries are so much better simply because they are much more inclusive.

Night_wolf
August 25, 2017, 02:01 AM
n.
Hypocrites is the word I use to describe majority people in most muslim countries not just the arabs.

We have hypocrites in all over the world, in all cultures in all religions not just the muslim countries

tonmoy.dhaka
August 25, 2017, 08:42 AM
We have hypocrites in all over the world, in all cultures in all religions not just the muslim countries

More prominent in most majority muslim countries. But I agree with your quote, infact the first line I wrote on my original post was
"Same for all conservative people who are faith bound"

tonmoy.dhaka
August 25, 2017, 08:44 AM
It's the same in the States. All my desi family friends are Democrats, even though that's the party pro LGBT, secular party. My theory is that in the west, we are minorities. So we champion other minority's rights like the right for gays to marry. Because the same people fighting for their rights will also fight for a Muslim to practice their religion. But back in Bangladesh, the same people are not minorities but make up the majority of the society, and so want a society that suit their belief best. It is hypocritical, and in that sense western countries are so much better simply because they are much more inclusive.


Exactly.
As DinRaat wrote
"If the Arabs had the choice between two states, secular and religious, they would vote for the religious and flee to the secular." ~Ali Al-Wardi (Iraqi sociologist)

I would only change "Arab" with "Conservative people of all faith"

Jadukor
August 25, 2017, 09:07 AM
Liberals by definition are open to all kinds of people. Thats why they even let in burqa loving conservatives into their free societies...thinking that the love and respect will be reciprocated by these conservatives in return. This is a recipe for disaster because conservatives by definition are not open to new ideas and once they grow in number and power they will either force you to conform to their ways or force you to flee the country.

R0ssei
August 25, 2017, 09:37 AM
In one sentence:

I don't have any problem if a woman wants to wear a Burqa/Niqab for whatever reason unless she is oppressed to do so by someone else.

brockley
August 26, 2017, 03:46 AM
Interesting Hansen said the same about liberal governments and 2nd that when the Muslim conservatives get in its my way or the highway.
BUT i don't think it will happen in Australia,more Chinese and Indian immigrants than Islamic 1's.
The Islamic groups have now showed their hand on the same sex debate.
But as usual the christians are the 1's being called bigots for supporting the No case.
Its interesting that Muslims align themselves with left wing groups,feminists are silent in this debate.
Interestingly a poll recently had Australians majority banning the burqua.