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SportingBD
July 19, 2017, 05:22 AM
Thread is about future stars.

How good is your judgement?

Please tell us who you think/believe will make it to the national team and become a successful international cricketer.

SportingBD
July 19, 2017, 05:52 AM
Judgement call #1

Liton Kumar Das. He will be back.

He will make a glorious return, improved, better and more determined.

Future Bangladesh Star.

SportingBD
July 19, 2017, 05:57 AM
Judgement call #2

Nazmul Hossain Shanto. The Specialist No.3 for Bangladesh.

He will arrive to remove the curse of No.3 position for Bangladesh.

Star of the future! A successful ☝️

MHRAM
July 19, 2017, 06:11 AM
Miraz- will be one of the best allrounder of the sport in 5 years
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SportingBD
July 19, 2017, 06:12 AM
Judgement call #3

Afif Hossain. Looks a seriously talented player.

But will he become a All-Rounder or a Specialist batsman?

Whatever it is - he will be a future star for Bangladesh.

SportingBD
July 19, 2017, 06:13 AM
Miraz- will be one of the best allrounder of the sport in 5 years
<br />Posted via BC Mobile Edition

His in my list also, future leader! I hope he turns out to be a proper All-Rounder or atleast a genuine specialist offspinner. :up:

SportingBD
July 19, 2017, 06:26 AM
So far I will stick with three judgement calls.

Haven't seen enough of Saif Hassan etc to make a judgement.

Jadukor
July 19, 2017, 07:00 AM
We havent found a consistent performer since the batch of shakib tamim mushfiq and ryad. Plenty of one season wonders and practice match bradmans.

SH Anik
July 19, 2017, 08:18 AM
We havent found a consistent performer since the batch of shakib tamim mushfiq and ryad. Plenty of one season wonders and practice match bradmans.

Mushfiqur wasn't consistent at all. Get your facts correct.

MHRAM
July 19, 2017, 08:20 AM
We havent found a consistent performer since the batch of shakib tamim mushfiq and ryad. Plenty of one season wonders and practice match bradmans.

Have we forgotten about the amount of effort that was poured into Tamim Mushy and Riad?

Riad has one century in tests and 3 centuries in ODIs. He is decent in T20s I will give him that.

Tamim and mushy have become quality. Mushy since 13 and Tamim since 15 have been world class especially the latter but look when they debuted - 05/06. So it took them 7+ years to be consistent and quality. It took Shakib 0 years. Shakib was consistent from the beginning. Riad isn't consistent even after 10 years

Don't put Shakib and the others in the same sentence.

Anamul and Nasir were the last two batsman who were performing but were discarded soon ahead of Sarkar and Sabbir. So what BCB did was focus on batsman whose shots were aesthetically pleasing.

Btw. Anamul and Nasir scored 5 centuries in international cricket between 2011-2014 and a 5 against top 8 teams. Riad/Tamim/Mushy scored how many centuries in their first 3 years against top 8 teams
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SportingBD
July 19, 2017, 08:32 AM
We havent found a consistent performer since the batch of shakib tamim mushfiq and ryad. Plenty of one season wonders and practice match bradmans.

Mhram makes a good point. They were given a very very long time in international cricket to develop and gain experience. However, for our new youngsters the expectation and patience level has changed. We start to question them very early, nothing wrong in that. If you compare them with how Shakib, Tamim, Mushy and Mahmudullah performed early in their career, you would clearly say the new guys are doing better. They are not final product yet, with experience and development they should be. Yes, not all of them will make it, but I have hopes some Sabbir, Soumya, Mosa will make it.

aklemalp
July 19, 2017, 08:34 AM
Saif....

Nuff said

aklemalp
July 19, 2017, 08:35 AM
Just kidding. Dont wanna jinx him:(

Rifat
July 19, 2017, 09:46 AM
Saif....

Nuff said

me gusta.

SportingBD
July 19, 2017, 10:06 AM
Saif....

Nuff said

Oh man.. the sight of seeing Saifuddin leading and conquering the cricket world gives me shivers :flag:

On the other hand.. I haven't seen Saif Hassan bat... properly yet.

Fazal
July 19, 2017, 10:07 AM
Nice Thread. I will follow this thread.

I hope this thread is active long enough.

NoName
July 19, 2017, 10:16 AM
I've been duped enough, no more!

aklemalp
July 19, 2017, 10:17 AM
I would rather not jinx any of these guys. Just my opinion.

SportingBD
July 19, 2017, 10:27 AM
I would rather not jinx any of these guys. Just my opinion.

If your good enough, your good enough - no jinxing, tinxing can stop you.

aklemalp
July 19, 2017, 10:34 AM
Just saying

Yankees
July 19, 2017, 11:37 AM
We havent found a consistent performer since the batch of shakib tamim mushfiq and ryad. Plenty of one season wonders and practice match bradmans.

Don't put Riad and Tamim on any consistent category.

Yankees
July 19, 2017, 11:43 AM
Future stars:

LKD will be back. The boy has the look of a star.
Shanto will eventually become our #3.
Pinak Ghosh. well, i doubt it, but I had such high hopes for him at one point. But he seems to have poor fitness.
Abu H. Rony will also be back. He will take Mash's place in the team.

And now that we have all sufficiently jinxed these boys, lets pray for the best.

Roey Haque
July 19, 2017, 12:19 PM
Crybaby Mushfiq doesn't belong in the same category as M'Dullah, Tamim and Shakib. So that batch gave us 3 stars. Not 4.

You won't give Liton or Shohan a quarter of those chances that Mushfiq got to establish himself as a batman. No you won't. So don't dare repeat such foolish statements.

SH Anik
July 19, 2017, 01:11 PM
Crybaby Mushfiq doesn't belong in the same category as M'Dullah, Tamim and Shakib. So that batch gave us 3 stars. Not 4.

You won't give Liton or Shohan a quarter of those chances that Mushfiq got to establish himself as a batman. No you won't. So don't dare repeat such foolish statements.


Mushfiqur had 19 avarage in ODIS in his first 4/5 years that too batting at 6/7(not out adavantages).

And his avarage in Test was around 18 during that time with 7 ducks.

Yeah although Mushy is the undisputed best batsman from 2012, there is no question about it that he has been lucky in his early career.

Litton or Sohan won't be so..

(Tamim had mid 20s avarage in early career, Mahmudullah around 30 and Shakib 30+) (first 4 years)

Jadukor
July 19, 2017, 01:20 PM
Some of you dont seem to fathom the fact that we have gradually closed the skill gap and raised the bar since our test debut. There was a time of Javed omar and al shahriar when even steve tikolo seemed like a class apart. Javed Omar, Rokon etc made international cricket look extremely difficult.. and it wasnt their fault. The gap in skills was very high at the time. Then came Asraful Bashar Rajin etc who made things look slightly easier. In 2007 When Tamim and Shakib and Mushy won vs india.. finally it signalled the arrival of a generation that could (at least occasionally) match the skill levels with the best. The point is Yes! it took time and lots of chances for the previous generations but that was 10 years ago and since then we have gradually closed the gap and are on the same lvl as current Sri Lanka if not better. The bar was set very low 10 yrs ago. Now we are a higher ranked team with a different standard and the expectation from a newcomer. While we shouldnt expect youngsters to set the world alight, we also dont expect them to be as poor as Soumya Shabbir etc in recent times. I guess i am a bit sour about the Champions Trophy where not a single youngster stepped up.

Fazal
July 19, 2017, 01:38 PM
So now you want ready made players dropped from the tree and wala.... and we expect they will start performing?

The reality is not like that. new players still need to be monitored, nurtured, tried, given opportunity to try and fail and learn and we need to be patient with them. Not all of them will be successful, some will fail and some will be the next superstar.

Just because Tushar Imran failed in past or SS may be struggling at present doesn't mean we need to castigate our new breed before we gave them enough chance or even gave them any chance. Litton is a perfect example. Litton came after great success in local, he had some mixed result with some weakness identified, he went back again dominated in local and most likely will get another chance. He is young he is talented. He was dropped and he will most likely be back to show how much he has polished further...this is the way it should be .... there is nothing wrong with that....that's the process how we will find out who is real and who is not for the next level.

There is no harm to identify our new breed of talents to broader fan base (because most of us are not very familiar with them).

its much better thread than a thread like our mid aged (cricket career wise) captain cry like a baby infront of the whole world complaining he was unfairly criticized.

Eclipse
July 19, 2017, 01:56 PM
Don't think we have any future star in our team or domestic arena at the moment. Most of our upcoming players really quite mediocre to be honest.

Our future looks extremely bleak.

SportingBD
July 19, 2017, 02:22 PM
Some of you dont seem to fathom the fact that we have gradually closed the skill gap and raised the bar since our test debut. There was a time of Javed omar and al shahriar when even steve tikolo seemed like a class apart. Javed Omar, Rokon etc made international cricket look extremely difficult.. and it wasnt their fault. The gap in skills was very high at the time. Then came Asraful Bashar Rajin etc who made things look slightly easier. In 2007 When Tamim and Shakib and Mushy won vs india.. finally it signalled the arrival of a generation that could (at least occasionally) match the skill levels with the best. The point is Yes! it took time and lots of chances for the previous generations but that was 10 years ago and since then we have gradually closed the gap and are on the same lvl as current Sri Lanka if not better. The bar was set very low 10 yrs ago. Now we are a higher ranked team with a different standard and the expectation from a newcomer. While we shouldnt expect youngsters to set the world alight, we also dont expect them to be as poor as Soumya Shabbir etc in recent times. I guess i am a bit sour about the Champions Trophy where not a single youngster stepped up.

Lot of youngster failed in Champions Trophy, especially in batting. Don't remember any youngster really stepping up for their team in CT. Only for Pakistan, you had bowlers like Hasan Ali who made the difference. Yes, most of us expected them to do well, but they didn't. I wouldn't be to harsh on them seeing how other youngsters performed for their team. It should definitely play a big part in their development for sure. I'm very confident with Sabbir, Soumya, Mosa. They have something different, and at such an young age, all of them look very classy. You see, the older batch didn't look so classy from the get-go.. they had to work on it. These guys from the start, already look like beast... give them time before they start to produce performances. :up:

aklemalp
July 19, 2017, 02:27 PM
Where's Pinak Ghosh?

SportingBD
July 19, 2017, 02:34 PM
Where's Pinak Ghosh?

Had some hype here in BC, died off. Some members mentioned his love for food leading to bad fitness.

Didn't really perform at domestic level.
Who knows maybe in the future he can revive his career?

aklemalp
July 19, 2017, 02:37 PM
If I can recall clearly, someone dug up a thread from 2006 that first featured Pinak as a prodigy.

MHRAM
July 19, 2017, 02:46 PM
Some of you dont seem to fathom the fact that we have gradually closed the skill gap and raised the bar since our test debut. There was a time of Javed omar and al shahriar when even steve tikolo seemed like a class apart. Javed Omar, Rokon etc made international cricket look extremely difficult.. and it wasnt their fault. The gap in skills was very high at the time. Then came Asraful Bashar Rajin etc who made things look slightly easier. In 2007 When Tamim and Shakib and Mushy won vs india.. finally it signalled the arrival of a generation that could (at least occasionally) match the skill levels with the best. The point is Yes! it took time and lots of chances for the previous generations but that was 10 years ago and since then we have gradually closed the gap and are on the same lvl as current Sri Lanka if not better. The bar was set very low 10 yrs ago. Now we are a higher ranked team with a different standard and the expectation from a newcomer. While we shouldnt expect youngsters to set the world alight, we also dont expect them to be as poor as Soumya Shabbir etc in recent times. I guess i am a bit sour about the Champions Trophy where not a single youngster stepped up.

I agree they have closed the gap with other teams. Infact right now Bangladesh are better than Lanka.

However one needs to accept the fact that Tamim and Mushy took a lot of time. They had 100 matches under their belt by the time they started performing consistently.

Truth is if most cricketers are given as much opportunity as mushy or Tamim, not only in sense of match caps but in terms of facilities, importance, etc they too would have improved vastly.
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Fazal
July 19, 2017, 03:05 PM
Litton, Shanto, Mohammad Saifuddin .... national team is knocking thier door.

Miraj, Mussadek will continue with the national team.

SS may take a break

Yankees
July 19, 2017, 03:08 PM
If I can recall clearly, someone dug up a thread from 2006 that first featured Pinak as a prodigy.

Was called a prodigy when he was a baby. I think that's the worst thing that could have happened to him. It was largely hype machine at work. But the kid is only 18 years old. Still time to turn it around. But the pics I saw of him now, looks chubby. Not a good sign.

Gowza
July 19, 2017, 06:18 PM
In the more recent future I see liton, shanto, saifuddin and miraz coming more to the fore. Assuming they continue to get chances and are given decent runs and proper guidance . Miraz for example needs to be nurtured very carefully, he in particular needs to have a balance that works because we eventually want to utilise his bowling and batting skill, my personal belief on him is that we need his bowling developed more so that should be he priority right now but still enough needs to be given to his batting so it still improves as well.

Sabbir and Soumya can become very good players but they to need proper guidance, they need to be mature, motivated and overall professional, then we will see them blossom. Guys like smith, Kohli, Williamson, root, their work ethic needs to be emphasised, make no mistake they are the best because they work the hardest. At this level talent is only part of it, need the right attitude, right coaches and right work ethic to climb to the top of the tree. The players need to be hungry to succeed long term.

Fazal
July 20, 2017, 09:28 AM
Two more names mentioned in Isam's article in cricinfo:



Afif Hossain ( all-rounder)
Zakir Hasan ( opener and WK and a great fielder, can play very well against FB)



They are further in the line... but if everthing goes well who knows we may see by 2019.

btw very good article how groundwork laid down by BCB is now giving dividend tracking down "impact players" from all around bangladesh.

Fazal
July 21, 2017, 02:02 PM
Here is the link: Interview with Helmot (http://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/cricket/2017/07/18/helmot-happy-bcb-hp-performance/)


Any specific names you would like to mention as future stars…



I think [Abu Haider] Rony bowled very well. He was probably the leader of our attack. I was also happy with the development of Ebadat Hossain.

Gowza
July 21, 2017, 05:51 PM
Great to hear about rony and ebadat. Really do need to start giving some of these young guys experience, at worst they are WC back-ups so they def need a decent amount of experience by the time it rolls around.

SportingBD
December 7, 2017, 05:30 AM
My list: updated (BPL-2017).

Afif Hossain
Zakir Hasan
Liton Das
Hossain Ali
Nazmul Hossain Shanto

SportingBD
December 7, 2017, 05:35 AM
Where's Pinak Ghosh?

Pinak selected for the U-19 World Cup :)

Hope he does well.

MHRAM
December 7, 2017, 08:20 AM
Zakir Afif has a lot of promise

Saif could become something big in test I think with his sloth batting :P

simon
December 7, 2017, 10:36 AM
What disapppoints me is that younger players like Bijoy,Liton,Mosaddek,Nasir have scored plenty of runs is domestic leagues but they looked ordinary in internationals.
On the contrary Soumya and Sabbir dont have grt domestic stats but had early international success.

Bottom line is regardless of the domestic performances the truth is we are not producing any international level cricketers.

Gowza
December 8, 2017, 05:55 PM
If this is not exclusively for BD players then breetzke, Shaw, Gill, porel, kalicharran, Keemo Paul.

I think the world will get some surprises with Afghanistan once they start playing tests, they have a lot of young players doing really well in their FC system. They’ve got a couple of really good spinners in rashid and mujeeb, Nabi is solid although he maybe retire soon..they’ve always produced good pacers ever since they’ve been relevant in cricket and they have a lot of young batsmen doing well in their FC competition so I think they will be properly competitive if not from the beginning then within at least their first 5 years of test status.

Plenty of other good youngsters, hetmyer will probably turn out a good one, samarawickarama despite his poor start will probably turnout well.

Kids like Christensen from SA, t.ntini, mulder could turn out very nicely, Coetzee I think will be very very rapid but I’m not sure what other skills he brings but SA are great at developing talent so he also could be a terrific player.

For England joe Clarke and dan Lawrence are already very good and getting themselves talked about, u19 play will jacks is supposed to be good. Ben coad is a promising young fast bowler and joe roots brother billy root is also very good, he’s a bit older as he was focusing more on his studies until recently.

Rana Melb
December 8, 2017, 06:03 PM
My list: updated (BPL-2017).

Afif Hossain
Zakir Hasan
Liton Das
Hossain Ali
Nazmul Hossain Shanto

Where is ariful anik mahedi

adamnsu
December 9, 2017, 05:44 AM
Similar to how NASA treats reaching future stars, I keep my expectations of the same magnitude for the past few years with new entrants who are expected to be amazing prior to joining the team.

SportingBD
December 9, 2017, 06:51 AM
Where is ariful anik mahedi

Mehedi Hasan Miraz is already a established national player. I think his already like a star for us (especially in test cricket). Ariful, I am not sure about him. I don't think he can make it. If he does get selected good luck to him, will be curious to see how he does. Anik, seen him get battered in BPL, but still young. for some reason.. havent impressed me, didn't see anything special in him.

DinRaat.
December 9, 2017, 06:59 AM
Mehedi Hasan Miraz is already a established national player. I think his already like a star for us (especially in test cricket). Ariful, I am not sure about him. I don't think he can make it. If he does get selected good luck to him, will be curious to see how he does. Anik, seen him get battered in BPL, but still young. for some reason.. havent impressed me, didn't see anything special in him.

Anyone can be a star, when you are served dust bowls that spin more than a fidget spinner.

Mehedi is a hero,even a prodigy at the tracks of Bangladesh. But take him overseas and he will struggle A LOT.

DinRaat.
December 9, 2017, 07:00 AM
That Hossain Ali bloke, excites me alot. He can be what Taskin never was. A good bowler.

SportingBD
December 9, 2017, 07:17 AM
Anyone can be a star, when you are served dust bowls that spin more than a fidget spinner.

Mehedi is a hero,even a prodigy at the tracks of Bangladesh. But take him overseas and he will struggle A LOT.

His meant to struggle overseas, even Sir Ashwin struggles.

Know any offspinners that do well on those SA/NZ/AUS/ENG wickets?

it's hard for sub continent spinners.

DinRaat.
December 9, 2017, 07:19 AM
His meant to struggle overseas, even Sir Ashwin struggles.

Know any offspinners that do well on those SA/NZ/AUS/ENG wickets?

it's hard for sub continent spinners.

nathan lyon is consistent overseas and in subcontinent.

SportingBD
December 9, 2017, 07:20 AM
nathan lyon is consistent overseas and in subcontinent.

His the only exception that has been doing well.

Very rare.