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MHRAM
August 26, 2017, 11:27 PM
When?

These 2 has 1 century between them and they bat in the top order in every form of the game
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MHRAM
August 26, 2017, 11:29 PM
Might I also add that these two are horrible in Big matches.

Sabbir and Soumya got 50s once in the world cup but otherwise their performance in ICC events is borderline tail-enderish.

They are keeping out inform cricketers and test specialists like Mini Nafees
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aklemalp
August 26, 2017, 11:40 PM
A golden duck for Sabbir. The guy is low on confidence. Would have done better batting later. Now Nasir will grab this opportunity with both hands

fush_montor
August 26, 2017, 11:41 PM
Ekti Haturar Golpo

ek je chilo Hathura, ar tar chilo duita perek...ekta perek khub shanto o Soumya prokitir..arekta ektu Romman-tic...Hathura jokhon ei rokom misfit perek dia gaer jor dekhiye jora-tali dite gelo, puro toktatai gelo bhenge :(

MHRAM
August 26, 2017, 11:43 PM
I also feel Pity for the two.

They are off form. They need to play some domestic cricket
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adamnsu
August 27, 2017, 12:02 AM
Shabbir doesn't have the mentality to even last long in ODI. He is pure T20 player.

Sarkar in Tests seem like a lost cause. However due to no new batsman coming in the pipeline he will stay

SH Anik
August 27, 2017, 12:15 AM
Soumya Sarkar 6
Imrul Kayes 0
Sabbir Rehman 0

I personally never felt these 3 comfortable with quality bowling ...
Few Good innings doesn't mean anything when your basic techniques are flawed. Any one can see that especially n Soumya(he disagrees :facepalm: ) but alas some 'miss' and 'hit' type 50s earned him this selection. Imrul and Sabbir too some extent. Plus Sabbir''s misconception of the game also another problem for him

MHRAM
August 27, 2017, 12:16 AM
Haturu says that he doesn't trust domestic cricket in Bangladesh.

Well Sabbir and Soumya are underperformers in FC and so far we have seen them fail day in day out.
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Eshen
August 27, 2017, 12:22 AM
This is actually a very unfortunate situation for both Soumya and Sabbir. They are LOI specialists, should have been focusing on that format at this stage of their careers. Now their longer format failures may shake their confidence badly when they play LOIs too.

Hathuru has a big role to play in this fiasco, specially how he has been messing with Momin for last few years and created a big hole in our Test batting order. But root of the problem is not him, but Papon - for his total failure to negotiate with other boards for A-team tours last few years. Guys like Momin, SN, Naeem have been doing what was necessary for them to find their way back in the consideration for the Test team - scoring tons of runs in domestics. What we needed next was A-team tours to assess how ready they are to return to international arena. Since that has not happened, we left it for Hathuru to gamble on whoever he wants.

NoName
August 27, 2017, 12:26 AM
OoF Mini can at least score 20 more runs than the combined SS and SR

MHRAM
August 27, 2017, 12:29 AM
Like eshen bro said

Them failing in tests is hurting their ODI performance. They were much better before they were dragged into tests without backing of FC performance
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BD_TigerZ
August 27, 2017, 12:53 AM
What has Sabbir done over Mominul heck even Litton in test cricket/domestic

NoName
August 27, 2017, 12:56 AM
What has Sabbir done over Mominul heck even Litton in test cricket/domestic

Lol in Litton's case he is unfortunate that he is a wicket-keeper because el capitain will do all in his power to keep him on the bench

MHRAM
August 27, 2017, 01:56 AM
You don't need to be a genius to say that Mini is much better than Sabbir. Sabbir averages 30 in tests. 26 in ODIs without missing a match. Mominul averages 47 in tests
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Gowza
August 27, 2017, 02:50 AM
Got a few issues, Soumya, Sabbir and imrul not performing. Liton not in the team? Mini and Litton should both be in the test team, even if liton doesn't keep he should play in the top order.

So top 3 in tests I'd have:

1 tamim
2 liton
3 mini

I'd still have Sabbir and Soumya in the xi in ODIs but they should prob be our 6 and 7, at least while they're out of form.

BD_TigerZ
August 27, 2017, 03:32 AM
My batting order

Tamim
Imrul (has runs in tests unlike ss)
Litton (Since Mushy throws a fit when gloves are taken off him)
Mominul
Shakib
Mushfiq (Wk)
Mossa
Miraz

MHRAM
August 27, 2017, 03:53 AM
I think we have too many lefty batsman in the top order.
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Gowza
August 27, 2017, 03:56 AM
I think we have too many lefty batsman in the top order.
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Liton is a righty so he'd help break the sequence. Though shanto also atop order bat is a lefty and he's probably not too far off the national team. So yeah, there are a lot of top order lefties.

Rinathq
August 27, 2017, 04:12 AM
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Night_wolf
August 27, 2017, 04:21 AM
Sabbir number 4 in test cricket. you have to smoke a special kind of weed to think thats a good decision

MHRAM
August 27, 2017, 04:22 AM
Mehedi has outscored Sabbir already
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MHRAM
August 27, 2017, 04:24 AM
Sabbir number 4 in test cricket. you have to smoke a special kind of weed to think thats a good decision

Bigger question is why was he made to walk out when Cummins was on fire. It's okay to come out at 4 after 50 odd overs
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Ishmumislam
August 27, 2017, 04:39 AM
nasir and mosaddek together in the late middle order is the dream combination ..two gritty and confident batsmen with brain. these two could be our bevan and waugh who will let the top order be fearless

Yankees
August 27, 2017, 04:43 AM
Got a few issues, Soumya, Sabbir and imrul not performing. Liton not in the team? Mini and Litton should both be in the test team, even if liton doesn't keep he should play in the top order.

So top 3 in tests I'd have:

1 tamim
2 liton
3 mini

I'd still have Sabbir and Soumya in the xi in ODIs but they should prob be our 6 and 7, at least while they're out of form.

If Liton is going to play, he needs to be WK. It's ridiculous that we have to protect the sentiment of a man-child.

Habib
August 27, 2017, 04:51 AM
Useless. At least my boi Nasir is playing.

simon
August 27, 2017, 04:53 AM
Sarkar still got some runs in Srilanka tests right ?
But Sabbir has been poor even in odis.
Should have picked Momin or Liton instead.

Gowza
August 27, 2017, 04:57 AM
If Liton is going to play, he needs to be WK. It's ridiculous that we have to protect the sentiment of a man-child.

He's good enough to play as a specialist bat, he is a top order player. I honestly have no problem with him keeping, he's a pretty decent keeper but regardless of whether he keeps or not he should be considered.

shuridh
August 27, 2017, 05:15 AM
Mehedi has outscored Sabbir already
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Mehedi was captain of u 19 team and try to play responsibly.

shuridh
August 27, 2017, 05:17 AM
nasir and mosaddek together in the late middle order is the dream combination ..two gritty and confident batsmen with brain. these two could be our bevan and waugh who will let the top order be fearless

They are also semi decent bowler and each can bowl 10 overs in inn.

Habib
August 27, 2017, 05:20 AM
Even though Imrul gets lots of hate for being rather less talented and edging so much, he is a better test player than both Soumya and Sabbir. He played some long test innings in the past. I want Soumya and Sabbir replaced by Mosaddek and Liton, while Imrul opens the innings.

MHRAM
August 27, 2017, 05:51 AM
Sabbir screwed us by scoring a duck and wasting a review
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Yankees
August 27, 2017, 05:52 AM
Even though Imrul gets lots of hate for being rather less talented and edging so much, he is a better test player than both Soumya and Sabbir. He played some long test innings in the past. I want Soumya and Sabbir replaced by Mosaddek and Liton, while Imrul opens the innings.

The only time he's had long test innings is on massively flat pitches like that game against Pak.

Mas_UK25
August 27, 2017, 10:10 AM
.... them .... rubbish test cricketers.


Liton, Nafees, Mominul needed. Heck, might as well play Abul who can bat, hang around instead of Sabbir plus Abul bowls, BD tail will be better of with Abul whom I'm sure will least be able to face 40-70balls Least one innings.

mufi_02
August 27, 2017, 10:45 AM
I'll see how SS does in the 2nd innings. But Sabbir needs to go. This guy has no place in the Test team. Bring in Mominul/Litton in his place.

Nafi
August 27, 2017, 11:37 AM
Imrul was a worse choice than sarkar

Yankees
August 27, 2017, 12:58 PM
Imrul was a worse choice than sarkar

But will deflect criticism once again. Our fans and media have it out for Soumya.

Zeeshan
August 27, 2017, 09:43 PM
But will deflect criticism once again. Our fans and media have it out for Soumya.

In my book, three people didn't perform last night yet one gets ganged up on.

Sickening public mentality.

Rana Melb
August 27, 2017, 09:45 PM
Ssssh iDumb will be upset lol

Gowza
August 28, 2017, 01:16 AM
In my book, three people didn't perform last night yet one gets ganged up on.

Sickening public mentality.

think soumya and sabbir are both getting it pretty rough.

Krishna
August 28, 2017, 02:25 AM
think soumya and sabbir are both getting it pretty rough.

Yes but criticisms of Soumya often get spiced up by bigoted racial banter by big majority of his 'critics' at social media. Which is very unfortunate.

DinRaat.
August 28, 2017, 03:30 AM
I am telling you Sabbir will go big, next match.

MHRAM
August 28, 2017, 03:37 AM
I am telling you Sabbir will go big, next match.

And that will make Bangladesh suffer from another 7 matches

He screwed Bangladesh in the CT because of scoring meaningless runs against NZ By teams
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Yankees
August 28, 2017, 04:49 AM
Yes but criticisms of Soumya often get spiced up by bigoted racial banter by big majority of his 'critics' at social media. Which is very unfortunate.

This is true. Now fans are commenting on some sort of secret "quota" system. Sometimes Im truly disgusted by our countrymen.

MHRAM
August 28, 2017, 06:04 AM
A round of applause for a player who takes on long on when two overs remain in the day.
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shuridh
August 28, 2017, 06:08 AM
Soumya trying to be tamim.

MHRAM
August 28, 2017, 06:10 AM
Soumya trying to be tamim.

Tamim doesn't attempt to hit a six if there are two overs remaining in the day
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Eclipse
August 28, 2017, 06:11 AM
A round of applause for our idiot.

shuridh
August 28, 2017, 06:24 AM
Tamim doesn't attempt to hit a six if there are two overs remaining in the day
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Soumya may be feeling jealous after seeing those glorious sixes by tamim against lyon.
But as you see he does not have a cricket brain like tamim.

shuridh
August 28, 2017, 06:26 AM
A round of applause for our idiot. I consider soumya, kayes and sabbir as walking wickets.

Mas_UK25
August 28, 2017, 06:35 AM
Idiot of the highest order. Brainless, dumb player. Never should wear test jersey for another 3years!

shakibrulz
August 28, 2017, 06:48 AM
I just can't wrap my head around Soumya playing. Kayes might have gotten some decent runs, Sabbir (although really his inclusion ain't justifiable either) might be a part time option+ big hitter like Maxwell who can add some value maybe. But Soumya is a walking wicket against any decent attack right now. And he looks woefully out of form. Just not test level tbh. Momin should play as a permanent fixture and I'd replace Sabbir with Litton too

jeesh
August 28, 2017, 08:33 AM
Both need to sit out from this particular format.

Open with Tamim, Imrul. Find another backup opener for Imrul. Mominul 3, and Liton 7.

mufi_02
August 28, 2017, 08:40 AM
I thought about giving SS another chance. But he looks woefully out of form. And that stupid brain fart with only 2 overs left was mind boggling. Batting wasnt that difficult when we saw how comfortable Tamim was on the other end.

Let's see what Kayes/Shabbir can do. 2 out of 3 should be dropped.

Tigers_eye
August 28, 2017, 08:41 AM
Both need to sit out from this particular format.

Open with Tamim, Imrul. Find another backup opener for Imrul. Mominul 3, and Liton 7.
This. And give Liton the gloves. This should prolong Mushi's captaincy and playing career @4.

Tigers_eye
August 28, 2017, 08:42 AM
...

Let's see what Kayes/Shabbir can do. 2 out of 3 should be dropped.
You know who the coach will drop 1st? Imrul. :)

NoName
August 28, 2017, 11:17 AM
Lmao I can't decide between Soumya's and Smith's brainfart lol

simon
August 28, 2017, 11:30 AM
eksually before this test in his last 8 innings Soumya has four 50s and a 42.
So I think Sabbir & Imrul are more likely to be dropped if they fail tomorrow.

Yankees
August 28, 2017, 03:37 PM
Tamim doesn't attempt to hit a six if there are two overs remaining in the day
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No dude, that was a Tamim move if I''ve ever seen one. If Tamim/Shakib did that, we would justify it as them playing their natural "aggressive" game.

Yankees
August 28, 2017, 03:57 PM
eksually before this test in his last 8 innings Soumya has four 50s and a 42.
So I think Sabbir & Imrul are more likely to be dropped if they fail tomorrow.

Don't bother. Our fans just love to analyze and criticize Soumya for everything. Imrul goes for duck and fans want him to open with Tamim next match.:facepalm: All's good as long as Soumo doesn't play.

It's partly Soumya's fault for having brain farts like today, but that's pretty common in our team.
It's also partly his fault because he started his ODI career with such a bang that there's huge expectations from him.

But mostly it's his fault because he's a Hindu. Nobody wants to admit it, but our country is a cesspool of bigotry. Will even go as far as to suggest the coach favors him because of his religion (even though Hatura's probably a Buddhist like most Lankans).

There's no reason why Soumya gets more criticism than Sabbir, when he's achieved more. Or how the media can connect Mini getting dropped to Sarkar.

RealSports
August 28, 2017, 03:59 PM
Test Cricket should be for specialists. Sarker and Shabbir haven't done anything to justify their positions in the test side. We have so many performing in first class, yet they can't seem to find their names amongst the squad, but the likes of Sarker and Shabbir do despite not doing anything in domestics. Sarker and Shabbir are limited overs players. Ideally, at home, this should be our 15 man squad for tests: Tamim, Imrul, Mushfiqur, Mominul, Shakib, Liton, Mosaddek, Mehedi, Taijul, Shahid & Fizz. The reserves being Roy, Nasir, Jubair & Shahriar, but these players are just examples. That XI I just picked is seriously strong in our conditions, and almost unbeatable. The only ones that could beat us are India and Pakistan. No way teams such as West Indies and New Zealand can beat us in any of the main formats at home now.

Ishmumislam
August 28, 2017, 04:44 PM
shabbir has two cruch 40s last match bd played and won on a slow low track in sri lanka his knock in the match bd lost vs england was top stuff.. i agree with giving him a long run at 4 and kayes has been solid for 3 years .. mominul in for soumya and mosaddek in for nasir is the best team

Yankees
August 28, 2017, 04:58 PM
shabbir has two cruch 40s last match bd played and won on a slow low track in sri lanka his knock in the match bd lost vs england was top stuff.. i agree with giving him a long run at 4 and kayes has been solid for 3 years .. mominul in for soumya and mosaddek in for nasir is the best team

Sabbir 2 40s = "top stuff, deserves extended run".
Soumya 3 50s = "mominul in for soumya"

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you a BD cric fan. :facepalm:

bujhee kom
August 28, 2017, 05:34 PM
I just can't wrap my head around Soumya playing. Kayes might have gotten some decent runs, Sabbir (although really his inclusion ain't justifiable either) might be a part time option+ big hitter like Maxwell who can add some value maybe. But Soumya is a walking wicket against any decent attack right now. And he looks woefully out of form. Just not test level tbh. Momin should play as a permanent fixture and I'd replace Sabbir with Litton too

Hello Shakibrulz, howdy buddy!
World's numero uno fan of Shakibul from India!

mufi_02
August 28, 2017, 06:20 PM
But mostly it's his fault because he's a Hindu. Nobody wants to admit it, but our country is a cesspool of bigotry. Will even go as far as to suggest the coach favors him because of his religion (even though Hatura's probably a Buddhist like most Lankans).

There's no reason why Soumya gets more criticism than Sabbir, when he's achieved more. Or how the media can connect Mini getting dropped to Sarkar.

Dude calm down. That's absolutely not a reason at all. Stop creating divisions within the team.

Kayes gets the most hatred out of the 3. In fact we even changed his name and call him KaEdge. Sabbir gets a lot of flake too. And so do SS now.

It has nothing to do with religion. No one cares whether he is a Muslim or Hindu. He is just woefully out of form. We can all see that he is struggling. He is a good player and a little break might do him good.

And you can't compare SS (Or even Shabbir) with Shakib/Tamim yet. But shakib also gets called out when he plays rash shots.

I think even SS would cringe if he hears this poor excuse of religion.

Jadukor
August 28, 2017, 06:37 PM
Everyone take a chill pill and enjoy the series. No one gets picked or dropped based on what is written on an internet forum so no need to hyperventilate over a difference in opinion.

Jadukor
August 28, 2017, 06:48 PM
idumb... Just stop

iDumb
August 28, 2017, 06:51 PM
idumb... Just stop

My initial post was a very good and relevant post ..you shouldn't have deleted it .

Jadukor
August 28, 2017, 06:56 PM
My initial post was a very good and relevant post ..you shouldn't have deleted it .
Unfortunately that is not for you to decide. Calm down. Do not derail this thread any further. Move on and enjoy the game.

SH Anik
August 28, 2017, 06:58 PM
Dude calm down. That's absolutely not a reason at all. Stop creating divisions within the team.

Kayes gets the most hatred out of the 3. In fact we even changed his name and call him KaEdge. Sabbir gets a lot of flake too. And so do SS now.

It has nothing to do with religion. No one cares whether he is a Muslim or Hindu. He is just woefully out of form. We can all see that he is struggling. He is a good player and a little break might do him good.

And you can't compare SS (Or even Shabbir) with Shakib/Tamim yet. But shakib also gets called out when he plays rash shots.

I think even SS would cringe if he hears this poor excuse of religion.

Absolutely correct man, this Yankees guy has been doing this on this forum for a long time now. He is trying to insert his sick theory that fans are against Soumya because of his faith.

No Miss/Mr. Yankees, it's not and never was. Fans criticise him mainly because of his woefull form and Haturis over likelyness of him over other cricketers. It's plain and simple.

I never saw a single fan taunting Soumya for his religion or something like that. It was always and still is about his horrendous batting. It's been loooooong since he has played few good innings in a row or had a very good tournament. Always here and there 50s full of edges and half chances. Then back to big slip in form. People say Soumya is seriously out of form..I would say Soumya had no form to begin with..

mufi_02
August 28, 2017, 07:18 PM
That awkward moment when Anik agrees with you.

I disagree that he never had any form. He is a much better than this curren form. Has a higher ceiling than Kayes. But he's not ready for all 3 formats.

Yankees
August 28, 2017, 07:29 PM
Absolutely correct man, this Yankees guy has been doing this on this forum for a long time now. He is trying to insert his sick theory that fans are against Soumya because of his faith.

No Miss/Mr. Yankees, it's not and never was. Fans criticise him mainly because of his woefull form and Haturis over likelyness of him over other cricketers. It's plain and simple.

I never saw a single fan taunting Soumya for his religion or something like that. It was always and still is about his horrendous batting. It's been loooooong since he has played few good innings in a row or had a very good tournament. Always here and there 50s full of edges and half chances. Then back to big slip in form. People say Soumya is seriously out of form..I would say Soumya had no form to begin with..

I was hoping you would reply to me. Because you help me prove my point. This is just two of many posts that Anik has posted recently:

"Seriously mate you are replacing dynamite with an atomic bomb in terms of biased and arrogant cricket coaches out there. If Ganguly is the coach, then Soumya and Litton would never get relegated. Forget about Mominul, even Mustafizur would have to fight for place with Shuvashis and Hom would come in place of Shakib then. I guarantee "

And also wrote: "You misunderstood my post. I didn't hurt anyone's faith here. I just took pun at some of the over used cricketers despite of them being out of form.It's not my fault that coincidently all of them are of certain faith."

Difference between you and me is that I call out bigotry, you indulge in it.

Yankees
August 28, 2017, 07:36 PM
Dude calm down. That's absolutely not a reason at all. Stop creating divisions within the team.

Kayes gets the most hatred out of the 3. In fact we even changed his name and call him KaEdge. Sabbir gets a lot of flake too. And so do SS now.

It has nothing to do with religion. No one cares whether he is a Muslim or Hindu. He is just woefully out of form. We can all see that he is struggling. He is a good player and a little break might do him good.

And you can't compare SS (Or even Shabbir) with Shakib/Tamim yet. But shakib also gets called out when he plays rash shots.

I think even SS would cringe if he hears this poor excuse of religion.

no offense Mufi, but you live in a fantasy world if you think this is not part of the issue. To say that no one cares about players religion is wishful thinking. There's no other explanation for why Sarkar gets the brunt of all the criticism.

Jadukor
August 28, 2017, 07:44 PM
I was hoping you would reply to me. Because you help me prove my point. This is just two of many posts that Anik has posted recently:

"Seriously mate you are replacing dynamite with an atomic bomb in terms of biased and arrogant cricket coaches out there. If Ganguly is the coach, then Soumya and Litton would never get relegated. Forget about Mominul, even Mustafizur would have to fight for place with Shuvashis and Hom would come in place of Shakib then. I guarantee "

And also wrote: "You misunderstood my post. I didn't hurt anyone's faith here. I just took pun at some of the over used cricketers despite of them being out of form.It's not my fault that coincidently all of them are of certain faith."

Difference between you and me is that I call out bigotry, you indulge in it.
Thanks for bringing this post to my attention. Did you report this? I noticed that anik has deleted this particular post.

iDumb
August 28, 2017, 07:51 PM
dear jadumod, who is derailing the thread now? Please be a good moderator for once and move your off topic discussions elsewhere and listen to your own advice/warning.

Unbelievable.

Night_wolf
August 28, 2017, 07:59 PM
Don't bother. Our fans just love to analyze and criticize Soumya for everything. Imrul goes for duck and fans want him to open with Tamim next match.:facepalm: All's good as long as Soumo doesn't play.

It's partly Soumya's fault for having brain farts like today, but that's pretty common in our team.
It's also partly his fault because he started his ODI career with such a bang that there's huge expectations from him.

But mostly it's his fault because he's a Hindu. Nobody wants to admit it, but our country is a cesspool of bigotry. Will even go as far as to suggest the coach favors him because of his religion (even though Hatura's probably a Buddhist like most Lankans).

There's no reason why Soumya gets more criticism than Sabbir, when he's achieved more. Or how the media can connect Mini getting dropped to Sarkar.

cant say about other places but people here criticize Imrul as much as sarkar if not more. its just imruls test record for past 2 years have been decent so he is not getting heat for 1st innings failure and fairly so.

wait for him to get picked in an ODI and fail, or fail all the 4 innings and you'll see.

Sabbir has got same amount of criticism as sarkar from "rational" posters here for 1st innings. 2nd innings is still left for sabbir and if he gets out like sarkar got out yesterday he'll get blasted as like sarkar

aklemalp
August 28, 2017, 08:02 PM
The best place for Sarkar is down the order (when he is in form, he can really take advantage of the older ball).

Sabbir, down the order also.

cricket_king
August 28, 2017, 08:13 PM
Lololol whattathread. SH Anik banned for 6 months for bigotry. :lol: About time.

On topic - Soumya's chances should most certainly be over for a while, but I bet they'll still play him next test. The only options they have is to have Imrul partner Tamim and Mominul number 3, which I highly doubt they'll be willing to try. This team management is stubborn af.

Need Sabbir to score today - even a 30 will be incredibly valuable in the context of this game.

Max100
August 28, 2017, 08:18 PM
2nd test I would prefer mominul and Liton instead of (soumya, sabbir or kayes)

aklemalp
August 28, 2017, 08:35 PM
2nd test I would prefer mominul and Liton instead of (soumya, sabbir or kayes)

Yeah, I agree. Can't believe they benched Liton Kumar

mufi_02
August 28, 2017, 09:04 PM
no offense Mufi, but you live in a fantasy world if you think this is not part of the issue. To say that no one cares about players religion is wishful thinking. There's no other explanation for why Sarkar gets the brunt of all the criticism.

Okay let's agree to disagree and not derail the thread as mod requested. I don't think our selectors or even BCB ever bring religion into consideration.

zman
August 28, 2017, 09:04 PM
Test Cricket should be for specialists. Sarker and Shabbir haven't done anything to justify their positions in the test side. We have so many performing in first class, yet they can't seem to find their names amongst the squad, but the likes of Sarker and Shabbir do despite not doing anything in domestics. Sarker and Shabbir are limited overs players. Ideally, at home, this should be our 15 man squad for tests: Tamim, Imrul, Mushfiqur, Mominul, Shakib, Liton, Mosaddek, Mehedi, Taijul, Shahid & Fizz. The reserves being Roy, Nasir, Jubair & Shahriar, but these players are just examples. That XI I just picked is seriously strong in our conditions, and almost unbeatable. The only ones that could beat us are India and Pakistan. No way teams such as West Indies and New Zealand can beat us in any of the main formats at home now.
That's the XI I would also go with. Soumya is a good limited over player. Once set he's virtually unstoppable. An inform Soumya compensates for his lack of foot movement by confidently attacking the bowlers in the power play. Problem is the same approach doesn't work in tests. His confidence level suddenly drops like a rock. It's no coincidence that his first class average is a paltry 29. The only spot he should ever be considered for in tests is bowling all rounder who bats in the lower middle order. Sabbir's issue is his temperament or lack thereof. He's played as a middle order batsman his whole career. Not sure why management/coach thinks suddenly he should be pushed higher up the order.

Zeeshan
August 28, 2017, 10:42 PM
Lololol whattathread. SH Anik banned for 6 months for bigotry. :lol: About time.

On topic - Soumya's chances should most certainly be over for a while, but I bet they'll still play him next test. The only options they have is to have Imrul partner Tamim and Mominul number 3, which I highly doubt they'll be willing to try. This team management is stubborn af.

Need Sabbir to score today - even a 30 will be incredibly valuable in the context of this game.

Yeah... bC still got the high school vibe.

roman
August 28, 2017, 10:58 PM
Cant belive a player's religious identity has become a topic in BC. :facepalm:

DinRaat.
August 28, 2017, 11:41 PM
Cant belive a player's religious identity has become a topic in BC. :facepalm:

Thats what happens when you have uneducated people like SH Anik

Stay in school kids!

Religion has no place in sport.

Max100
August 28, 2017, 11:57 PM
I will say keep Shabbir and drop soumya and imrul. Make liton opener

Yankees
August 29, 2017, 12:16 AM
Thanks for bringing this post to my attention. Did you report this? I noticed that anik has deleted this particular post.

Not sure, I found it in his "recent posts" page. Forgot about the ability to report, will do in the future when appropriate. Thx.

MHRAM
August 29, 2017, 12:20 AM
I will say keep Shabbir and drop soumya and imrul. Make liton opener

That's not terrible idea. It would be better because liton would be comfortable against Lyon

Also a LR combination at the beginning does help
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Mas_UK25
August 29, 2017, 01:03 AM
What did Anik say that was malicious? Harsh banning for 6months! Todays day and age, people have lots of different opinions and ways of discussing things. Can't all be the correct adob kaida old school types. On PP they allow much stronger trolling to go on (unless it's too bad which then the post gets deleted not ban the poster straight away), hard talks/discussions. Hence why PP is is probably the most active forum. I bet if they were here, most of them they'd been banned in no time!

I feel we some of us are too sensitive.This day and age, hard discussing on forum is normal, it doesn't mean it's trolling and bigotry in the wrong sense like rude/racial/abusive.

Unless it's actually faul, bad language used, and deliberately trying to malign/humiliate/down others. Then I really don't see why there's any need to be sensitive about it...and ban people of having any stronger opinion (with right right explanation or logic).


In the end forum...suffers from less people..

Yankees
August 29, 2017, 01:08 AM
That's not terrible idea. It would be better because liton would be comfortable against Lyon

Also a LR combination at the beginning does help
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If Liton opens, then Mushy continues to keep. Can't allow that.

DinRaat.
August 29, 2017, 01:12 AM
What did Anik say that was malicious? Harsh banning for 6months! Todays day and age, people have lots of different opinions and ways of discussing things. Can't all be adob kaida old school types. On PP they allow stronger trolls, hard talks/discussions I bet if they were here they'd be all banned in no time!

Ditto, 6 months is just too much even, 3 months is alot, 1 week should be enough time to let him contemplate about what he did

shakibrulz
August 29, 2017, 01:33 AM
Hello Shakibrulz, howdy buddy!
World's numero uno fan of Shakibul from India!

Haha howdy my dude, good to be back :D

shakibrulz
August 29, 2017, 01:41 AM
Btw with respect to Soumya and the religious bias (it's totally fine to discuss this and ought to be discussed I feel), I am an Indian, and although I'm an atheist, born in a Hindu family. My reason for preferring Soumya over Kayes is because his temperament is worse than that of a tailender and his defense is very poor. Ka-edge's one is more of a technical flaw, but temperamentally he's much better. I've been singing his praises in ODIs, but he just ain't test level and he should sort this out before he can be in the team.

shuridh
August 29, 2017, 01:59 AM
Btw with respect to Soumya and the religious bias (it's totally fine to discuss this and ought to be discussed I feel), I am an Indian, and although I'm an atheist, born in a Hindu family. My reason for preferring Soumya over Kayes is because his temperament is worse than that of a tailender and his defense is very poor. Ka-edge's one is more of a technical flaw, but temperamentally he's much better. I've been singing his praises in ODIs, but he just ain't test level and he should sort this out before he can be in the team.

Kayes is also in poor form.

Mas_UK25
August 29, 2017, 02:49 AM
Both lower order batsmen for test format. If they get selected at the same match, then 6,7. Never top 4. Sarkar needs a big rest from TEST, Sabbir can be the quick run scorer down the order. One of them plays not both. Bring in Liton for one of them. Mominul, Nafees, Tushar Imran, back for replacing one of SR or SS and Kayes who also needs a long break. Enough of mediocrity.

Why Nafees is not in the side when he plays spin so well? BD wickets more or less going to be like this at test cricket. Sarkar, Kayes can't play any decent spin. Nafees would be better pick plus has matured now.

MHRAM
August 29, 2017, 03:21 AM
Sabbir and Sarkar combined have scored 45 runs in the match.
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MHRAM
August 29, 2017, 03:25 AM
Sabbir didn't review it
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MHRAM
August 29, 2017, 03:34 AM
Your team is in trouble. You have two reviews left and reviews will be renewed after 5 overs. Only the tail is left after

You need to be a special kind of noob to not review it. And if he thought it was LBW he still should have reviewed it
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Rinathq
August 29, 2017, 03:45 AM
Sarkar out Momiul in
Sabbir out Liton in

Imrul gets his last chance. Score a 100 or make way for Riyad next series.

Jadukor
August 29, 2017, 03:52 AM
Nasir, Shabbir, Soumya and Imrul totally flopped this test. One good innings from the two chances each of these players got would have ensured a lead of 280+
If we lose this test, gotta drop some of these players and totally rethink the batting order.

Ishmumislam
August 29, 2017, 03:58 AM
Sabbir 2 40s = "top stuff, deserves extended run".
Soumya 3 50s = "mominul in for soumya"

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you a BD cric fan. :facepalm:

LOL! sarker is my favourite batsman in the world and if you could see all my posts on this forum you would see i am a soumya fanboy. and i also understand your reply as any fb post and comment about sarker ends up making me sad and angry its disgusting stuff that gets said around his inclusion, that being said he defends away from his body and so does nasir anamul nafees none of those people should be in the test team until they improve. sehwag did the same but thats an exception not norm, shabbir gets to the ball and defends infact he has the best dead bat defence after mushfiqur and litton in bd only if his temperment improves

shakibrulz
August 29, 2017, 04:34 AM
Kayes is also in poor form.

Not even talking about form here.

mufi_02
August 29, 2017, 10:18 AM
Beside these three jokers, I also think Nasir is not ready for test. He is a good ODI utility player. But not suitable for Test. We need a solid batsmen (and not a bits and pieces all rounder). Either Litton or Shanto should replace him.

Zeeshan
August 29, 2017, 06:53 PM
I thought I will hold back and wouldn't participate regarding the main issue. But sometimes keeping quiet against tyranny, injustice and bigotry is equally culpable of tyranny, injustice and bigotry.

You must indeed live in a dreamland if you 'carelessly overlook' the m words littered all over Youtube.

Disgusting.

And wholeheartedly agree with everything Yankee said and stands for. He is quickly becoming one of my favorite posters here.

Rana Melb
August 29, 2017, 06:58 PM
Beside these three jokers, I also think Nasir is not ready for test. He is a good ODI utility player. But not suitable for Test. We need a solid batsmen (and not a bits and pieces all rounder). Either Litton or Shanto should replace him.

One and only- mossadek

Yankees
August 30, 2017, 01:30 AM
I thought I will hold back and wouldn't participate regarding the main issue. But sometimes keeping quiet against tyranny, injustice and bigotry is equally culpable of tyranny, injustice and bigotry.

You must indeed live in a dreamland if you 'carelessly overlook' the m words littered all over Youtube.

Disgusting.

And wholeheartedly agree with everything Yankee said and stands for. He is quickly becoming one of my favorite posters here.

Aww shucks, now I'm blushing E-)E-)

jeesh
August 30, 2017, 06:08 AM
Maybe we can let Sarkar play another game because of those two key catches. Not that Imrul has done anything either to justify a place.

Night_wolf
August 30, 2017, 06:11 AM
Maybe we can let Sarkar play another game because of those two key catches. Not that Imrul has done anything either to justify a place.

SS took those catches brilliantly no denying that, but he also was caught napping couple of times

Imrul had great last year and 2015 partnering Tamim, it'll be unfair to drop him specially when he was playing not in his position

adamnsu
August 30, 2017, 06:37 AM
But mostly it's his fault because he's a Hindu. Nobody wants to admit it, but our country is a cesspool of bigotry. Will even go as far as to suggest the coach favors him because of his religion (even though Hatura's probably a Buddhist like most Lankans).



Just read this and I must say its absolute poppycock.

I am proud that Bangladesh is one of the countries that doesnt select players based on their religon or ethnicity! Many Hindus have made the team including Tapash Baisha and Alok Kapali. Even another good for nothing like Shuvogato Hom gets some free holidays!

Cricket combines all Bangladeshis together from all backgrounds! Yes some may have negative reservation for him being Hindu but I think its not the majority!

Sarkar gets as much stick as any other player. If he gets it more its because more is expected from him and that he gets out always the same way.

Yankees
August 30, 2017, 06:39 AM
SS took those catches brilliantly no denying that, but he also was caught napping couple of times

Imrul had great last year and 2015 partnering Tamim, it'll be unfair to drop him specially when he was playing not in his position

Imrul did well on complete roads. SS has a slightly higher average than Imrul even if you only look at only 2015 - present.

They have both been terrible this match and there is a very good chance neither of them will open in the future. But if its strictly between Kayes and Soumya, we should go with SS. Hes younger, and better fielder. Imrul at 30 wont suddenly get any better. SS might if he can work on his mental weakness.

But we should also explore Liton and Shanto as potential partners for Tamim.

adamnsu
August 30, 2017, 06:43 AM
Sarkar needs to stay. I think he's got the talent but he needs more time on the field. He reminds me of Shahrear Nafees of the past, both have horrible footwork. We also dont have any replacement to open with Tamim.

Now Shabbir plays in the wrong position and should come after Shakib and Mushfiqur where Nasir currently is.

If you want to drop batsman: then its Kayes and Nasir. Bring in Mominul and Shanto instead of them

simon
August 30, 2017, 06:43 AM
SS took those catches brilliantly no denying that, but he also was caught napping couple of times

Imrul had great last year and 2015 partnering Tamim, it'll be unfair to drop him specially when he was playing not in his position

He learnt from his mistakes and took the catches today.
Imrul has not scored for a very long time but SS has 4 fifties in his last 6/7 innings before this.
So I will drop Imrul and Sabbir and get Liton and Mom-in

adamnsu
August 30, 2017, 06:45 AM
Sarkar got lucky on some of those catches if I am not mistaken?

Yankees
August 30, 2017, 07:00 AM
Just read this and I must say its absolute poppycock.

I am proud that Bangladesh is one of the countries that doesnt select players based on their religon or ethnicity! Many Hindus have made the team including Tapash Baisha and Alok Kapali. Even another good for nothing like Shuvogato Hom gets some free holidays!

Cricket combines all Bangladeshis together from all backgrounds! Yes some may have negative reservation for him being Hindu but I think its not the majority!

Sarkar gets as much stick as any other player. If he gets it more its because more is expected from him and that he gets out always the same way.

I never mentioned selectors as the issue, have I?

The point was about the moronic fans who hurl abuse and the media that fuels the nonsense by constant insinuating that Soumya was given "special" consideration by Hatura. Connecting Mominul's drop to Soumya makes so sense whatsoever (he doesnt even occupy Momins spot).

Just going by the stats, I dont see why SS gets as much flak as he does. He has marginally better numbers than Imrul and Sabbir. Heck, he's already accomplished more than what Riyad did in a decade. Yet Riyad and Imrul gets praised and SS gets abused. Its not hard to figure out why.

p.s. only one country selects based on ethnicity and thats South Africa. Its not exactly something to be "proud" of. It should be the barest minimum and expected. Pakistan also had Hindu players, doesnt make them a bastion of equality.

adamnsu
August 30, 2017, 07:08 AM
I never mentioned selectors as the issue, have I?



So our selectors are not of the country that is a "is a cesspool of bigotry." ? You called the whole country that!

In terms of fans, well there will always be morons where ever you go and in most competitive sports. But the majority is usually not like this in most cases. And if you believe that the media are all up for clean news and have no hidden agendas well its not!

Colouring the whole Bangladesh based on a small minority like that was unfair. Its like saying muslims harbour terrorism!

Yankees
August 30, 2017, 07:50 AM
So our selectors are not of the country that is a "is a cesspool of bigotry." ? You called the whole country that!

In terms of fans, well there will always be morons where ever you go and in most competitive sports. But the majority is usually not like this in most cases. And if you believe that the media are all up for clean news and have no hidden agendas well its not!

Colouring the whole Bangladesh based on a small minority like that was unfair. Its like saying muslims harbour terrorism!

You are being unnecessarily pedantic. It's very easy to brush these things aside and blame it on a small minority or few bad apples. America's been saying that for years and now one of them is President.

You only need to read up recent articles on attacks on secularist bloggers, LGBT members, religious minorities (hindu and christian), Shiite mosques in BD to know that this is endemic of much larger issues. Calling it a cesspool of bigotry is justified. And yes, I do hold the media to a higher standard so I do expect them to not have hidden agendas.

Would rather not keep going back and forth, so on topic of cricket: I will just reiterate that the stats don't justify the harsh criticism that Soumya constantly gets.

adamnsu
August 30, 2017, 08:03 AM
You are being unnecessarily pedantic. It's very easy to brush these things aside and blame it on a small minority or few bad apples. America's been saying that for years and now one of them is President.

You only need to read up recent articles on attacks on secularist bloggers, LGBT members, religious minorities (hindu and christian), Shiite mosques in BD to know that this is endemic of much larger issues. Calling it a cesspool of bigotry is justified. And yes, I do hold the media to a higher standard so I do expect them to not have hidden agendas.

Would rather not keep going back and forth, so on topic of cricket: I will just reiterate that the stats don't justify the harsh criticism that Soumya constantly gets.


You are beating around the bush if you call me pedantic. Also if your statement was not objectionable people would not argue with it. You easily include and exclude what you want to support your comment which is ludacris to be brutally honest. Like I said Bangladesh does have its share of bigots, but when it comes to Sarkar its not the majortiy that think that way.

If you think media and newspapers have no hidden agendas then I hope one day you will see what I mean.

On the otherhand it is very easy for you to brush my whole country with one color based on a minority. I dont care what America or any other country does but Bangladesh.

You need to mix with real Bangladeshi (in real life and not on media and what you read), especially when it comes to cricket to see what I mean.

Btw, how many years have you actually lived in Bangladesh in total? It doesnt seem like you have lived there which is why you are suggesting I read things.

You are actually going back and forth...just read your own messages for a moment.

shuridh
August 30, 2017, 08:14 AM
I thought I will hold back and wouldn't participate regarding the main issue. But sometimes keeping quiet against tyranny, injustice and bigotry is equally culpable of tyranny, injustice and bigotry.

You must indeed live in a dreamland if you 'carelessly overlook' the m words littered all over Youtube.

Disgusting.

And wholeheartedly agree with everything Yankee said and stands for. He is quickly becoming one of my favorite posters here.

Religious bigotry should not be tolerated.

shuridh
August 30, 2017, 08:17 AM
Imrul did well on complete roads. SS has a slightly higher average than Imrul even if you only look at only 2015 - present.

They have both been terrible this match and there is a very good chance neither of them will open in the future. But if its strictly between Kayes and Soumya, we should go with SS. Hes younger, and better fielder. Imrul at 30 wont suddenly get any better. SS might if he can work on his mental weakness.

But we should also explore Liton and Shanto as potential partners for Tamim.
Kayes scored 0 & 2, he should be dropped.

Yankees
August 30, 2017, 08:21 AM
You are beating around the bush if you call me pedantic. Also if your statement was not objectionable people would not argue with it. You easily include and exclude what you want to support your comment which is ludacris to be brutally honest. Like I said Bangladesh does have its share of bigots, but when it comes to Sarkar its not the majortiy that think that way.

If you think media and newspapers have no hidden agendas then I hope one day you will see what I mean.

On the otherhand it is very easy for you to brush my whole country with one color based on a minority. I dont care what America or any other country does but Bangladesh.

You need to mix with real Bangladeshi (in real life and not on media and what you read), especially when it comes to cricket to see what I mean.

Btw, how many years have you actually lived in Bangladesh in total? It doesnt seem like you have lived there which is why you are suggesting I read things.

You are actually going back and forth...just read your own messages for a moment.

Forget it, you're all over the place. If you gather your thoughts, it would be easier to respond. Seriously, I don't even know which to tackle here.

Just an example, I never said that I think the media have no hidden agendas. I said that they should be expected not to. Seriously, how hard is it to understand? Instead you repeat the same thing as last time.

It's very easy to huff and puff and show your "patriotism" on a message forum. I give you a thoughtful response and you come back with "meh don't criticize my country. Have you even been to BD?"

:lol: what a joke. we're done here.

shuridh
August 30, 2017, 08:25 AM
You are beating around the bush if you call me pedantic. Also if your statement was not objectionable people would not argue with it. You easily include and exclude what you want to support your comment which is ludacris to be brutally honest. Like I said Bangladesh does have its share of bigots, but when it comes to Sarkar its not the majortiy that think that way.

If you think media and newspapers have no hidden agendas then I hope one day you will see what I mean.

On the otherhand it is very easy for you to brush my whole country with one color based on a minority. I dont care what America or any other country does but Bangladesh.

You need to mix with real Bangladeshi (in real life and not on media and what you read), especially when it comes to cricket to see what I mean.

Btw, how many years have you actually lived in Bangladesh in total? It doesnt seem like you have lived there which is why you are suggesting I read things.

You are actually going back and forth...just read your own messages for a moment.
Bangladesh still has some level of religious harmony.
However, intolerance towards religious minority is increasing day by day.

Yankees
August 30, 2017, 08:38 AM
Kayes scored 0 & 2, he should be dropped.

Agreed. Kayes for Mominul is a no brainer.

adamnsu
August 30, 2017, 08:44 AM
Forget it, you're all over the place. If you gather your thoughts, it would be easier to respond. Seriously, I don't even know which to tackle here.

Just an example, I never said that I think the media have no hidden agendas. I said that they should be expected not to. Seriously, how hard is it to understand? Instead you repeat the same thing as last time.

It's very easy to huff and puff and show your "patriotism" on a message forum. I give you a thoughtful response and you come back with "meh don't criticize my country. Have you even been to BD?"

:lol: what a joke. we're done here.

I think you need to reasses yourself before you do assess others.

Its quite rich telling others to gather thoughts when your own statements have large holes.

Its easy to put words together and make a baseless statement on some facts on a forum without having the real truth.

I am sorry but you have the qualities of a troll as I have noticed in the past few days.

Anyways if it is really over, please dont tag me regarding this issue.

It might be a joke to you calling Bangladesh lots of names but to me its not! Like I said I still doubt you have lived in Bangladesh.

Krishna
August 30, 2017, 08:51 AM
Well I don't think Yankees implies that majority of Bangladesh is bigoted.

What he meant and I also agree that moderate portion of Bangladeshis atleast in social media generally take pun at Soumya being a Hindu whenever he fails to deliver, Most common dialogue is he gets free chance because there is a hidden minority quota. It's quite common comment here in BD among the Soumya Sarkar 'critics' in their Facebook posts and comments. Please don't disagree this (and if you are not regular Facebooker or don't read comments more often then search posts about him and you will find lot of such posts). I know probably many of them say it as a joke but I think it should hurt Soumya. it's something like 'Akram Uncle Tamim quota' theory used fairly back in 2013-14 when Tamim was miserably out of form.

I personally believe no nation have majority bigoted population, it's just not possible.

Its not about bigotry in some cases. It's lack of common decency. Generally we Bengalies has a habit to 'খোটা দেওয়া' and some(not all)cannot resist doing it in case of Soumya (Religion background) or once it was for Tamim (Family background).

It's not a Hindu Muslim case in most occasion(well besides bangladeshi right wing conspirators :-P)

Shadow
August 30, 2017, 08:54 AM
Soumya can be used as a specialist slip fielder(he missed some, but has a good reach and reflex), Nasir is good too at slips. Liton can open with Tamim. Soumya can be slotted at no.7.

fush_montor
August 30, 2017, 08:58 AM
This is what happens when you form an idea about a country/society over social networks and foreign media...please do live in Bangladesh for some time and then insinuate...at least that would be based on first hand experience... we bengalis have had our share of bigotry throughout history, proved by the pre-partition riots in Calutta/Noakhali or recent Nasirabad incident.. As disgusting as it may be, some level of bigotry will always be there, specially in the periphery not unlike other nations around the world...but to imply that it has become a mainstream phenomenon is just presumptuous and spreads misinformation about the whole nation...

mufi_02
August 30, 2017, 09:34 AM
we should just move on from religion discussion.

I would like to add that beside this trio, Nasir absolutely has no place in the test team. He is just not good enough for longer version. I am tempted to give SS/Shabbir more chances as I feel they have a higher ceiling but just not ready yet. Maybe down the road. Kayes played some good innings recently and showed what he is capable of. But I just don't see the any reason to include Nasir.

Keep him for ODI please. We need a solid specialist batsmen. It can be Shanto, Litton, Mossa.

Vepu
August 30, 2017, 09:45 AM
it's obvious that Soumya recieves extra bashing for being a Hindu. majority of Bandladeshi muslims hate non-muslims. its a fact. Anik is a true example of a typical Bangladeshi muslim. props to Yankee for bringing up the issue and exposing the haters.

Yankees
August 30, 2017, 09:58 AM
It might be a joke to you calling Bangladesh lots of names but to me its not! Like I said I still doubt you have lived in Bangladesh.

Now you are just a blatant liar. Calling Bangladesh lots of names? What a joke. Cant provide any actual input so you go with the knight in shining armor approach.

And ofcourse when all else fails just call the other person a toll. Classic!

Yankees
August 30, 2017, 10:04 AM
it's obvious that Soumya recieves extra bashing for being a Hindu. majority of Bandladeshi muslims hate non-muslims. its a fact. Anik is a true example of a typical Bangladeshi muslim. props to Yankee for bringing up the issue and exposing the haters.

Nope. Anik's not a typical BD muslim. He was just a blatant racist who deserved a ban. You should join him, imho. And fyi, he was called out and banned by other BD muslims.

And your props are not wanted.

shuridh
August 30, 2017, 10:10 AM
it's obvious that Soumya recieves extra bashing for being a Hindu. majority of Bandladeshi muslims hate non-muslims. its a fact. Anik is a true example of a typical Bangladeshi muslim. props to Yankee for bringing up the issue and exposing the haters.
Not majority more like 5-10% and they are vocal.

shuridh
August 30, 2017, 10:13 AM
Nope. Anik's not a typical BD muslim. He was just a blatant racist who deserved a ban. You should join him, imho. And fyi, he was called out and banned by other BD muslims.

And your props are not wanted.

Exactly.

shuridh
August 30, 2017, 10:22 AM
we should just move on from religion discussion.

I would like to add that beside this trio, Nasir absolutely has no place in the test team. He is just not good enough for longer version. I am tempted to give SS/Shabbir more chances as I feel they have a higher ceiling but just not ready yet. Maybe down the road. Kayes played some good innings recently and showed what he is capable of. But I just don't see the any reason to include Nasir.

Keep him for ODI please. We need a solid specialist batsmen. It can be Shanto, Litton, Mossa.
Liton can also keep.

PoorFan
August 30, 2017, 10:25 AM
Yankees, Adamnsu and others, lets move on and dont derail the thread. Lets not get into trouble on a historical test win. - Mod.

adamnsu
August 30, 2017, 10:26 AM
Yankees, Adamnsu and others, lets move on and dont derail the thread. Lets not get into trouble on a historical test win. - Mod.

Please notice I have stopped replying on the relgious topic

Mas_UK25
August 30, 2017, 10:51 AM
it's obvious that Soumya recieves extra bashing for being a Hindu. majority of Bandladeshi muslims hate non-muslims. its a fact. Anik is a true example of a typical Bangladeshi muslim. props to Yankee for bringing up the issue and exposing the haters.

Steady. Going overboard with emotions there. Majority Bdeshis get along just fine, mix well and enjoy each others festival shows if it's on in around their ends.

For you to label majorities dislike minorities, due to a poster opinion on a forum or few minor groups that propagate hate. Is like being utter naive.


Btw I thought Anik's 'SH' stood for, 'Sharma?'. he might be one himself.
What exactly did Sh Anik say that was so offensive that it brings out extra sensitivity?

Mas_UK25
August 30, 2017, 11:08 AM
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I would like to add that beside this trio, Nasir absolutely has no place in the test team. He is just not good enough for longer version. I am tempted to give SS/Shabbir more chances as I feel they have a higher ceiling but just not ready yet. Maybe down the road. Kayes played some good innings recently and showed what he is capable of. But I just don't see the any reason to include Nasir.



Nasir is a better offie than Sabbir bowling his useless leggies. Nasir gives another offspin option. Yiu forgot the first innings, Nasir batted for 70 odd balls make 25 or something, key is stayed at the wicket long enough, made a difference. 2nd innings failed, Sabbir did okish 2nd innings, but not going for the review is just plain dafty when two was available and no proper batsmen left, it showed his naivety as a test cricketer.

Sarkar, whom I dislike for test too but he if stays he must bat down at 6-7, Liton should replace Kayes and open the innings, need LR combo. Mominul easy choice to comeback and bat at 3. If Mossadekk is fit, he should replace Shafiul, BD go with one pacer+Sarkars medium. What is the point of two pacers when Mushy has OCSD? In short means spin obsession. Yes spin won BD the game, but one can't say there wernt moments where a pacer could've been brought on for a spell to change the feel of things instead of overbowling spinners.

MHRAM
September 4, 2017, 01:17 AM
Another failure for Soumya. 33 runs on a flat deck - not good
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Tigers_eye
September 4, 2017, 05:16 AM
Another failure for Soumya. 33 runs on a flat deck - not good
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I'm not going to say failure. The ball stayed low, he was trying to survive till lunch. 34 is his avg.

Imrul....I just hope Liton Das is given a long look.

Ishmumislam
September 4, 2017, 05:19 AM
not really a flat deck its too slow .. t20 pitch or 650 decks usually has good pace with being flat. Aus will struggle here like dhaka

Night_wolf
September 4, 2017, 05:21 AM
not really a flat deck its too slow .. t20 pitch or 650 decks usually has good pace with being flat. Aus will struggle here like dhaka

I am wary of smith, Mr. 60+ avg wont fail 2 tests in a row

MHRAM
September 4, 2017, 06:10 AM
I'm not going to say failure. The ball stayed low, he was trying to survive till lunch. 34 is his avg.

Imrul....I just hope Liton Das is given a long look.

33 on a flat track isn't promising. Need big hundreds.

Today Sabbir played a good innings but he gave his wicket away after being set and not able to score more than 70+
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simon
September 4, 2017, 01:09 PM
shunlam Sabbir ke naki Koheli'r shathey tulona korechey Lyon, sharsey kaam.

Glad that he got some runs, he should bat at lower order both in Tests & ODIs.

BD_TigerZ
September 4, 2017, 01:41 PM
shunlam Sabbir ke naki Koheli'r shathey tulona korechey Lyon, sharsey kaam.

Glad that he got some runs, he should bat at lower order both in Tests & ODIs.

Didn't look lost and without a gameplan.. which is the case when he bats higher than 7..

jeesh
September 4, 2017, 11:07 PM
Sabbir and Soumya seem to have more contribution than say Imrul Kayes in both matches.

ReZ_1
September 5, 2017, 12:27 AM
Sarkar/Shabbir is the obsession from the coaching staffs and selectors and Nasir is the obsession from the supporters...
Both have failed to meet the expectations..

MHRAM
September 5, 2017, 12:42 AM
Nasir needs to score in the next innings otherwise he can kiss his spot in the XI goodbye
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MHRAM
September 6, 2017, 11:56 PM
Soumya needs to be dropped from tests for some time.

Heck even drop him from ODIs unless he regains some form. I am sick of this
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Max100
September 7, 2017, 12:00 AM
Soumya and Kayes both should be dropped from test team. Bring liton and shariar nafees or anamul

Yankees
September 7, 2017, 12:17 AM
Soumya and Kayes both should be dropped from test team. Bring liton and shariar nafees or anamul

Never Anamul because he is a "selfish" player. Our team is full of selfless players who volunteer to get bundled out for single digits so everyone can bat and play and have a merry time.

MHRAM
September 7, 2017, 12:52 AM
Never Anamul because he is a "selfish" player. Our team is full of selfless players who volunteer to get bundled out for single digits so everyone can bat and play and have a merry time.

If Anamul was a selfish player then we need some selfish players. Anamul scored 3 hundreds, one away from home. Soumya scored 1 century in twice the number of matches as Anamul.
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reyme
September 7, 2017, 02:32 AM
The coach needs to take full responsibility here. The coach hardly coach these players. He is on vacation 8 months out of 12. WE need a specialist coaching staff for the Test side who can groom the players with right mentality and pick the right set of players to begin with.

Max100
September 7, 2017, 02:47 AM
Never Anamul because he is a "selfish" player. Our team is full of selfless players who volunteer to get bundled out for single digits so everyone can bat and play and have a merry time.

we need selfish player. how bad it would be if a selfish test opener bat whole day and make a century. dont we dream, we have one right now.

jeesh
September 7, 2017, 03:50 AM
The coach needs to take full responsibility here. The coach hardly coach these players. He is on vacation 8 months out of 12. WE need a specialist coaching staff for the Test side who can groom the players with right mentality and pick the right set of players to begin with.
Specialist chef, specialist driver, specialist masseuse, specialist fans like Reyme who always makes an appearance before an impending defeat :)