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mufi_02
August 28, 2017, 08:45 AM
It was refreshing to see new commentators after decades of Sir Atahar and Lord Shamim.

I heard very little of Nafees. But initial impression on Mehrab -

Quite decent. Doesn't talk a lot like Ata/Shamim. He is still nervous. Analysis of the game requires improvement. He was an average player and so not sure how well he understands the game. Accent is smooth and understandable. But tries to pull of a British accent with a hint of standard American accent. Mehrab is bicurious.

Habib
August 28, 2017, 08:47 AM
SN needs to polish his English a bit more. He will improve with more practice. But his insight into the game has been top notch. Agree about Mehrab. He studied in Australia I have heard, so has a slight Aussie accent.

SportingBD
August 28, 2017, 08:49 AM
Should be included in BPL commentary team.

One way to improve himself and become more confident.

Liked his commentary, has potential to become our commentator for long time.

SportingBD
August 28, 2017, 08:50 AM
SN needs to polish his English a bit more. He will improve with more practice. But his insight into the game has been top notch. Agree about Mehrab. He studied in Australia I have heard, so has a slight Aussie accent.

SN limitation in English doesnt allow him to express what he wants to say.

Like you say has great insight, but i thought he found it hard to express it naturally.

patriot
August 28, 2017, 08:57 AM
Mehrab is a perfect commentator for chess games.

His commentary lacks the energy and charm required for international cricket audience. However, given our young history and lack of English speaking experts, I think he should be given more time and opportunities to improve.

Nafees should stick to playing cricket. Embarrasing.

iDumb
August 28, 2017, 08:59 AM
Nafees needs a lot of polishing of his spoken English for him to have commentary as a career . But agree with habib..has decent insight to the game ... when he speaks ..he is more like in your face type of commentator ... often takes the attention away from the game and makes u focus on the commentary which is not good I think ...

Mehrab on the hand hand is very natural ..and soothing ...and u kinda can listen to him in the back ground ...I think he has future in commentary if he wants ... I also like the fact that he talks about the opposition players a lot unlike athar and shamim (who I don't think know much of opposition players to begin with )

If mehrab is not lazy and does his homework and studies each player ... like most good commentators does then he can easily be another voice in our commentary team .. and will excel athar.

I started liking mehrab the moment I listened to him ....

iDumb
August 28, 2017, 09:01 AM
Also shahriar was there less than mehrab...i think the t.v. team already kind of phasing shahriar out ... and he is just another guest commie .. mehrab was on regular rotation

They can also possibly do 3 man commentary when these new guys are in ..specially shariar so it is more eased ..and even can try out other new voices ...perks of having the tv rights

jeesh
August 28, 2017, 09:05 AM
Mehrab has brighter prospect purely from presentation point of view. Although not much personality, neither does he add any key sharp points-which Nafees does bring.

Impressed with Eddie Rainsford though. Become a top quality commentator, worthy of getting into the big league.

iDumb
August 28, 2017, 09:05 AM
Should be included in BPL commentary team.

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You are right ..I agree ...

Roni_uk
August 28, 2017, 09:06 AM
I got a theory on Soumya's strange and idiot getting out. I think he did it deliberately so that Mominul gets a chance in the second Test. Good on him.

iDumb
August 28, 2017, 09:13 AM
Impressed with Eddie Rainsford though. Become a top quality commentator, worthy of getting into the big league.

Yeah ..definitely better than many of the elite subcontinent commentators ...

I really don't think English commentary should be for ppl who speak English as second or 3rd language ... and cricket perhaps may have some of the worse commentators employed ...

Listen to any soccer ..basketball or a American football commentary .... they add so much excitement .

MHRAM
August 28, 2017, 09:16 AM
Nafees has good insight but his English is not there yet and also a bit nervous. Mehrab has good English but no real input.

But they can improve and a breathe of fresh air compares to SC
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jeesh
August 28, 2017, 09:19 AM
That sort of commentator is so rare these days. Grew up listening to Henry Blofeld, Tony Greig and Bill Lawry, boy they made cricket exciting.

jeesh
August 28, 2017, 09:20 AM
Nafees has good insight but his English is not there yet and also a bit nervous. Mehrab has good English but no real input.

But they can improve and a breathe of fresh air compares to SC
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SC and AAK are like Soumya Sarker and Sabbir Rahman. Time for a change

mufi_02
August 28, 2017, 09:42 AM
Ata - has decent knowledge about the game. knows the BD players well by virtue of being close to the team personally and also as an ex-selector. but way too passionate. barely gives credits to the opposition team. sometimes gets so excited about a boundary or six that feels like having an orgasm.

Shamim - best spoken out of all. has a smooth accent. good vocabulary. almost seems like a native english speaker. legend has it that he is the prince (of derbyshire) that was promised. but zero knowledge of the game. those stupid puns such as red cherry and nelson raising fingers is annoying. I bet the other commentators hates him.

Mehrab - slow smooth talker. I would listen to him in an audiobook narrating some charles dickens novel. totally anti ata. never gets excited. him and paint drying are head to head in the most mundane competition. but he is still new and can learn. potentially can replace shamim.

nafees - thinks in bangla first, translates that thought into english word by word, then re arranges some noun and verb, and then spits out words such "that was a good shot". needs a better RAM for such higher processing speed. he knows the game well and one can see that from his bangla interviews. will be a guest commie for a while before getting a full time gig. let's see how far this unpaid internship goes.

Zeeshan
August 28, 2017, 12:06 PM
Bhaire bhai... maaf chai. Ami touba korlam amake keu poisha dileo ami commintry (not Coventry) korbo na...

Tough crowd huh? Damn. I am just happy and relieved to see a fresh new face as Opi. Nafees is a weirdo we all know, but oh well. Didn't even know that was him before I read this thread. But come'on let's not dissect them apart like frogs.

From a nation where English isn't our first language, where it is hard to find a cricketer + commentator, I am happy with him even though he is average. And there is a growth mindset you know? Give him few more games, he will rock.

On a completely unrelated note, I just love Ash the analyst. Some of the phrases and stuffs he mentions you will never hear anywhere else. Things like "drop wicket"... I didn't even know what was that or his keen acumen that looking at foot tracks Sir could clearly deduce he dryness of pitch of first day. That guys is really a genius, and once he gets over his totano, amta amtaness and awkwardness he would be a stellar analyst.

simon
August 28, 2017, 03:00 PM
Meh! rab is more fluent but both are mediocre.

Tigers_eye
August 28, 2017, 03:53 PM
It was refreshing to see new commentators after decades of Sir Atahar and Lord Shamim.

I heard very little of Nafees. But initial impression on Mehrab -

Quite decent. Doesn't talk a lot like Ata/Shamim. He is still nervous. Analysis of the game requires improvement. He was an average player and so not sure how well he understands the game. Accent is smooth and understandable. But tries to pull of a British accent with a hint of standard American accent. Mehrab is bicurious.He should understand the game better than Lord Shamim if average player was a criteria. :lol:

Shingara
August 28, 2017, 04:02 PM
SN was terrible. He was struggling!

BD Tigers
August 28, 2017, 09:31 PM
I am just very glad to see new faces, cricketer commentators are in the mix. They will get better in time.

reyme
August 28, 2017, 09:35 PM
On a completely unrelated note, I just love Ash the analyst. Some of the phrases and stuffs he mentions you will never hear anywhere else. Things like "drop wicket"... I didn't even know what was that or his keen acumen that looking at foot tracks Sir could clearly deduce he dryness of pitch of first day. That guys is really a genius, and once he gets over his totano, amta amtaness and awkwardness he would be a stellar analyst.

This! Ash's analysis of the game is just mesmerizing. I cant think on any one of our other analyst knows so much about so much. Really enjoying his post or pre match analysis on youtube. The man is a genius. If we had a bangla commentary team, I would put him on right away.

Zeeshan
August 28, 2017, 10:37 PM
This! Ash's analysis of the game is just mesmerizing. I cant think on any one of our other analyst knows so much about so much. Really enjoying his post or pre match analysis on youtube. The man is a genius. If we had a bangla commentary team, I would put him on right away.

Yeah. I actually had to google "drop in pitch". This is what he may be referring to:

http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/resize/frm/storypad-zqbvESgpgqF8NLRhCZcP4u/b993ca34-99e1-423a-9b34-991005f6fbed.jpg/w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

MohammedC
August 28, 2017, 10:44 PM
As someone said give them opportunity during BPL if they are not playing. I think both have good cricket knowledge they just need more confidence.

MHRAM
August 28, 2017, 10:51 PM
He should understand the game better than Lord Shamim if average player was a criteria. :lol:

I understand cricket better than Shamim Chowdhury and I am not even a professional cricketer or an analyst
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Zeeshan
August 29, 2017, 12:12 AM
Nafees actually has good content. He is a bit soft and subdued and holds back but that will wear out over time. Unlike broken record like Lord.

shakibrulz
August 29, 2017, 01:22 AM
I don't know, whatever I heard of Nafees was nothing insightful (I don't care about anyone's mastery in English if the content is good obviously). Mehrab is better, far less jarring commentary so that you don't feel the urge to mute the commentary tbh.

Mas_UK25
August 29, 2017, 01:29 AM
Mehrab has potential to be best commentator from BD. Has to polish few areas and avoid taking any notes from AAK's and Shamers commentating ways.

Nocturnal
August 29, 2017, 03:01 AM
I am just happy and relieved to see a fresh new face as Opi. ......


The commy is Mehrab Hossain, Jr - NOT to confuse with the first BD ODI centurion
Mehrab Hossain Opee!!!

fush_montor
August 29, 2017, 03:05 AM
enybody else other than Stutter Ali Khan or Lord Shamim is welcome...as long as they don't enforce my mute button like the aforementioned gentlemen

MHRAM
August 29, 2017, 03:07 AM
I am starting to like Mehrab. The guy seems calm. Maybe commentating in BPL will help us all because he can give a lot of insight about the local cricketers
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MHRAM
August 29, 2017, 03:08 AM
I have noticed that Shamim Chowdhury has little to no clue about our domestic cricket and it's cricketers
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Nocturnal
August 29, 2017, 03:21 AM
Hay amader Ashar Fool!!
I did not watch the show or don't know what was the context but Ash played in one of those Drop-in- pitch back in Australia 2003 .. 1st Test at Marrara Oval, Darwin! Scored total 30 runs in two innings!
I read about this pitch thing back then ... Pretty sure veteran BC members know about it too. It's common in Down Under!!

jeesh
August 29, 2017, 03:53 AM
I have noticed that Shamim Chowdhury has little to no clue about our domestic cricket and it's cricketers
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Not a full time job-he has his businesses. But you could argue following domestic cricket should be his business if he wants to talk about cricket.

I know him personally. Went to school with his son. Great guy. But i guess being the only choice year after year he and Athar have forgotten to re-invent and improve.

mufi_02
August 29, 2017, 10:15 AM
Not a full time job-he has his businesses. But you could argue following domestic cricket should be his business if he wants to talk about cricket.

I know him personally. Went to school with his son. Great guy. But i guess being the only choice year after year he and Athar have forgotten to re-invent and improve.

That's what I feel too. He doesn't come from a cricketing background like Atahar. He is from the old school commentary team of Khoda Baksh and Jafrullah Sharafat. They started their career on radio and would do commentary on football, hockey, and cricket. But then as cricket became the main sport, Sharafat/Shamim left the other sports and focused on cricket while Baksh retired.

When I used to listen to radio commentary, they would always switch to English for a few overs. It was so irritating because no one would understand. If I am not mistaken, Lord Shamim was that English commentator.

Zeeshan
August 29, 2017, 10:21 AM
I have my reservations about Shamim being Lord or a mere flippant marquess (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess).

Zeeshan
August 29, 2017, 07:00 PM
Hay amader Ashar Fool!!
I did not watch the show or don't know what was the context but Ash played in one of those Drop-in- pitch back in Australia 2003 .. 1st Test at Marrara Oval, Darwin! Scored total 30 runs in two innings!
I read about this pitch thing back then ... Pretty sure veteran BC members know about it too. It's common in Down Under!!

He has served his time, paid his price and done his due as he is being accepted by mainstream public and media.

No need to be use spite and resentment especially being a seasoned, mature and 'veteran' poster yourself.

And I guess it must feel pretty good to get the 'one up' knowing "pretty sure veteran BC members know about it..."