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Night_wolf
August 30, 2017, 06:03 AM
Going forward to the next match we have two options, which one should we take?

1. A dead wicket:- Can ensure a boring draw and our first ever test series victory vs a strong team

2. Spinning one:- will give a result. it can be 2-0 or 1-1.

I say we make it same as the 1st test. the last two matches (Eng vs WI) and (Aus vs BD) was exciting as hell, lets not make test cricket boring again by providing a dead track. if we lose fighting and draw the series 1-1 I'll take it. 100 times better than a boring draw just to win the series

patriot
August 30, 2017, 06:05 AM
Isnt it a no brainer. Copy paste the dhaka wicket, get momin and taskin in. 2-0 should be easy peasy.

jeesh
August 30, 2017, 06:06 AM
I dont think we can play out 5 days, even if the wicket is docile with nothing on it. If you see dismissals of our guys, quite a few of them are rash shots regardless of wicket or condition.

So better to go for another turning track, and target 2-0

adamnsu
August 30, 2017, 06:09 AM
I think the likes of Kayes+Sarkar+Nasir would not be able to make runs on any wicket. That is why I am opting for a spinning wicket as that is where our strenght is

adamnsu
August 30, 2017, 06:13 AM
Isnt it a no brainer. Copy paste the dhaka wicket, get momin and taskin in. 2-0 should be easy peasy.

As if our Management and Selctors have a brain :D

Night_wolf
August 30, 2017, 06:14 AM
I think the likes of Kayes+Sarkar+Nasir would not be able to make runs on any wicket. That is why I am opting for a spinning wicket as that is where our strenght is

I agree with the spinning wicket. I want that too but I think Kayes would be allright on a batting wicket. he did score 150 vs PAK on a pancake

Tigers_eye
August 30, 2017, 06:15 AM
spinning wkt. Mominul in instead of Nasir. Plays in #4.

Night_wolf
August 30, 2017, 06:18 AM
spinning wkt. Mominul in instead of Nasir. Plays in #4.

momin needs to be number 4..he was doing awesome at that position, his avg dipped when he moved up to number 3

zman
August 30, 2017, 06:42 AM
My preference is also a spinning track. Flat track can be used only if there's forecast for a lot of rain and we do not want to deal with too much uncertainty.

Jadukor
August 30, 2017, 07:08 AM
Spinning track
1. Our competitive advantage is we have a better spin attack.
2. We are not good at reverse swing but they are
3. No point going for flat decks when we dont have a quality/settled top order

BD_TigerZ
August 30, 2017, 07:24 AM
I just want the series win :D

Habib
August 30, 2017, 07:41 AM
Our coach declared a 2-0 series win in favor of BD. So we have an obligation to do the right thing.

Night_wolf
August 30, 2017, 07:57 AM
O'kefee is coming for australia, dont think shakib will get two 10fers in a row and miraz dont look as good as he was vs Eng

I am having 2nd thoughts about a spinning wkt tbh

Jadukor
August 30, 2017, 08:12 AM
^^You and Roni_uk... i cant decide who is more pessimistic lol

PoorFan
August 30, 2017, 08:14 AM
Do we need pacers at all in Chittagong? Drop Safiul, even Mustafiz and bring in all rounders or batsman like Mosaddek, Shanto in place. We need better fielder than those good for nothing pacers, bring in Mominul replacing any of them, keep Nasir, Imrul in team.

MHRAM
August 30, 2017, 08:25 AM
Why dont we play an extra spinner instead of shafiul or fizz? Oh wait two of our allrounders are off limits specialist spinners like Jubair Saqlain are ignored
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Night_wolf
August 30, 2017, 08:27 AM
^^You and Roni_uk... i cant decide who is more pessimistic lol

we balance out the overly optimistic ones!

mufi_02
August 30, 2017, 08:28 AM
Do we need pacers at all in Chittagong? Drop Safiul, even Mustafiz and bring in all rounders or batsman like Mosaddek, Shanto in place. We need better fielder than those good for nothing pacers, bring in Mominul replacing any of them, keep Nasir, Imrul in team.

you need pacers. it is very important to have a varied attack. and having specialist batsmen at #9 or #10 doesn't help really.

spinning wicket it is.

tiger1000
August 30, 2017, 09:04 AM
Why dont we play an extra spinner instead of shafiul or fizz? Oh wait two of our allrounders are off limits specialist spinners like Jubair Saqlain are ignored
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They're not good enough, jubair has gone off the boil, saqlain is a joke, worse player than hom.

Shafiul was pointless

Need to go with Roy or Taskin to provide aggression and bounce and back opponents up when spin isn't always working

R0ssei
August 30, 2017, 09:05 AM
Why dont we play an extra spinner instead of shafiul or fizz? Oh wait two of our allrounders are off limits specialist spinners like Jubair Saqlain are ignored
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I agree.

If Chittagong offers similar pitch (which I obviously prefer), what's the point of having 2 pacers (& bad fielders)? They only bowled 10% in Dhaka test.

It's better to include another spinner while Fizz can stay. This would give a break to a pair. Aussies would love to play any BD pacer any day after 1st Test.

tiger1000
August 30, 2017, 09:06 AM
As for op 100% same track or make England style track which was softer and more gripping

We can't go back to hoping for draws now, we must go all out

roman
August 30, 2017, 09:24 AM
spinning wkt. Mominul in instead of Nasir. Plays in #4.

I want Mominul in place of Imrul. Nasir can be a handy spinner. Besides he scored some valuable runs in first innings.

MHRAM
August 30, 2017, 09:34 AM
One more thing I will say is that the wicket in Dhaka was poor. A lot of wickets were because of uneven bounce
Make a pitch with adequate turn and but no uneven bounce untill day 5
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Habib
August 30, 2017, 10:11 AM
One more thing I will say is that the wicket in Dhaka was poor. A lot of wickets were because of uneven bounce
Make a pitch with adequate turn and but no uneven bounce untill day 5
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I am just glad that you are not in charge of preparing the wicket.

PoorFan
August 30, 2017, 10:16 AM
It helps in TEST match in BD Condition[for batting + fielding], but will not help in LOIs.
Pacers in this test merely bowled couple of overs! And fielded crap!! ... says a lot.

you need pacers. it is very important to have a varied attack. and having specialist batsmen at #9 or #10 doesn't help really.

spinning wicket it is.

Yankees
August 30, 2017, 10:18 AM
It helps in TEST match in BD Condition[for batting + fielding], but will not help in LOIs.
Pacers in this test merely bowled couple of overs! And fielded crap!! ... says a lot.

Guaranteed way to screw yourself when pitch doesnt behave as expected

aklemalp
August 30, 2017, 10:25 AM
How much is the toss important if a pitch like mirpur is prepared. The tides can easily turn if Aussies win the toss and bat first.

MHRAM
August 30, 2017, 10:28 AM
I am just glad that you are not in charge of preparing the wicket.

Don't you think a pitch with uneven bounce is counter intuitive?

Make a pitch which genuinely spin friendly and not such that some balls bounce to your head while others hit the keepers boots.

Uneven bounce can negate our strength which is playing spin well. Tamim for example got two snorters in both innings. He had no fault and yet our best batsman was dismissed like that
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adamnsu
August 30, 2017, 10:34 AM
Taking a neutral view on the pitch: Amazing and exiciting. These kind of pitches had everything in it and made the games interesting. Both teams had almost equal opportunities to win. Tactics were reassesed almost after every session.

However from a Bangladesh point of view: We need spin pitches as this is our strenght for both batting bowling wise, and weak point for the Aussies bowling and batting wise. Also I think we have a better opportunity of winning playing 4 days of cricket.

PoorFan
August 30, 2017, 10:35 AM
Guaranteed way to screw yourself when pitch doesnt behave as expected

Does Chittagong pitch ever behaved as pace friendly? Whats the point haveing pacers for a pitch if you cant expect them bowling 5 overs even?

Anyway, I feel going with one pacers would be more than needed, would be a waste actually.

Night_wolf
August 30, 2017, 10:38 AM
How much is the toss important if a pitch like mirpur is prepared. The tides can easily turn if Aussies win the toss and bat first.

so far we have played 3 tests in these pitches this year..2 vs eng and 1 vs aus. the 2 we won we were bowling last. the one we lost we were batting last

so yes the toss could be a big factor

Zeeshan
August 30, 2017, 11:13 AM
I think brockley is the only who voted for flat track.

LOL no it was BD Tigerz.

Mas_UK25
August 30, 2017, 11:21 AM
Should've been a 3rd option. Spin and turner but not uneven spin and turn like first test. Should be one similar to like against England! Last year.

Zeeshan
August 30, 2017, 11:26 AM
We shouldn't make too radical changes in the last test. It might offset the balance and chemistry. After all playing for four days they DID get some experience.

I think probably drop SS. That's about it. Sabbir has a 50 recently so he is kinda safe. Muminul better deliver if he gets in. Nasir stays. Kayes stays. Drop Shafiul too.


What do you guys suddenly want? Drop SS, Bhimrul, Julius Caeser, Fizz, Shafiul, Nasir and half of the squad? Seriously?

NoName
August 30, 2017, 11:33 AM
No not a dead flat pitch. Aussie pacers are good enough to bundle us out on a pitch like that.

adamnsu
August 30, 2017, 11:39 AM
We shouldn't make too radical changes in the last test. It might offset the balance and chemistry. After all playing for four days they DID get some experience.

I think probably drop SS. That's about it. Sabbir has a 50 recently so he is kinda safe. Muminul better deliver if he gets in. Nasir stays. Kayes stays. Drop Shafiul too.


What do you guys suddenly want? Drop SS, Bhimrul, Julius Caeser, Fizz, Shafiul, Nasir and half of the squad? Seriously?

I agree that changing so many players all at once somewhat distorts the team collectively.

Dropping Shafiul should be a easy decision unless our selectors make the same stupid mistake. They should give Rony or Roy a chance tbh.

I cant see seem to justify both Nasir and Shabbir playing in the test squad despite them being players of two different positions on paper. I would keep Shabbir in but replace Nasir for a genuine batsman perhaps like Mominul or even a newbie like Shanto. I think Kayes should be given another chance.

RealSports
August 30, 2017, 12:22 PM
Same pitch. At home, we should always prepare spin tracks against all teams besides India and Pakistan. The aim is to become unbeatable at home in the main forms now. We should beat Australia again provided we pick the right XI. I'm sorry, but players such as Sarker, Shabbir and Nasir shouldn't really be in the test side at all. All three of them are good limited overs players only. In the 2nd test, I'd drop Sarker and Shabbir, and replace them with Liton and Mominul. We should win if we include these two players, and Chittagong is the home ground of Mominul anyway. I'm sure Liton/Mominul can score far more runs than Sarker/Shabbir in tests. Common sense. I'd also replace Shafiul. We need a fast bowler that can keep it tight. I want a 2-0 result.

R0ssei
August 30, 2017, 12:49 PM
No Kayes, absolutely NO. You're playing on homeground as a top-order specialist batsman with a test average of 27-28 after b**** about dropping from opening role and your can't even stay longer than 10 minutes on the crease. He also said re: playing at No. 3, "তামিম কে দেন, ও-ও পারবেনা". Like he knows the best.

1) Momin in for Kayes, but he should bat at 4. In that case, Mushy can bat at 3.
2) SS stays. To me, he can stay just for his slip fielding. When you know that your spinners will bowl 90% deliveries, you need someone reliable at slip.
3) I would love to see Shanto in the squad when most of the batsmen are failing. But he is another LH.
4) Mosa is an automatic choice for Test. If he is unfit, either Nasir or Sabbir can play. None would contribute much any way.
5) I don't see the importance of 2nd seamer when (A) the pitch will be spinny (B) AUS is the best side to play pace (C) only 10% deliveries were bowled by pacers in Dhaka test. I would rather go with 4th spinner instead. No need for another Leftie though. A leggie would be better.
6) Fizz stays

Jadukor
August 30, 2017, 12:56 PM
Mushy cannot bat 3 if he is a keeper. Wicket keeping in test is not daal vaat.

Rifat
August 30, 2017, 12:57 PM
One Change for me: Mominul Haque in for Imrul Kayes...mominul may be off form, at least he makes a sincere attempt to stay in the crease for a while unlike a few others...

Rifat
August 30, 2017, 12:59 PM
Chittagong pitch is not as brownish as Dhaka pitch, so you may not necessarily see as much turn as we did see in Dhaka. Batting first and posting 400+ is crucial in Chittagong.

Rifat
August 30, 2017, 01:01 PM
1. Tamim
2. Sarkar
3. Nasir
4. Mominul
5. Shakib
6. Mushfiqur
7. Sabbir/Litton Das
8. Mehedi
9. Taijul
10. Mustafiz
11. Abu Jayed Rahi/Shafiul/Shubhashis

If you want an extra batter: play both Litton and Sabbir.
Extra or 2nd seamer play one of Shafiul Shubhashis or Abu Jayed.

Taskin has not impressed me in tests...

Jadukor
August 30, 2017, 01:06 PM
We need a few debutants. They always do well for us. May be try a new opener and Shanto at no 3. I would replace the 3 S in the side with Shanto, Mominul and Roy. Kayes can open with Tamim

SportingBD
August 30, 2017, 01:15 PM
Turner please.

Same wicket. The wicket was fair to both teams. It's not like we won easily.
The match was very enjoyable to watch, competitive until the end.

Hoping for the same, but a better win margin would be good for the heart.

simon
August 30, 2017, 01:19 PM
not dead I want alive wicket.

KAyes & Sabbir out
Momin & Liton in
Nasir deserves another match after his return match.

Fazal
August 30, 2017, 02:09 PM
Go for the Kill. No dead wicket.

Drop Imrul and Nasir for one game and bring Momin and Litton.

FB change? May be... however it doesn't matter as FB will have little impact in the next game.

Tigers_eye
August 30, 2017, 02:17 PM
not dead I want alive wicket.

KAyes & Sabbir out
Momin & Liton in
Nasir deserves another match after his return match.Nasir shouldn't have returned to test. He is not a Test player to begin with. It was Riyad who should have been in the squad.

Fazal
August 30, 2017, 02:26 PM
why Nasir deserve another match and not Sabbir? Sabbir was out in the 1st innings with a very good ball. Nasir haven't shown anything special in his two innings that tells me he deserve another chance ahead of Litton, Momin or Sabbir.

Miraz
August 30, 2017, 03:13 PM
Nasir shouldn't have returned to test. He is not a Test player to begin with. It was Riyad who should have been in the squad.

Couldn't agree more. However, I am against dropping Nasir just after one Test. He should be given the opportunity to show what he has got in the 2nd Test.

Knowing Hathuru's approach - I don't think he will make any change to the playing XI. Expect to see the same XI. Let's hope Soumya, Imrul and Nasir shows more maturity in the second Test,

mufi_02
August 30, 2017, 03:29 PM
Couldn't agree more. However, I am against dropping Nasir just after one Test. He should be given the opportunity to show what he has got in the 2nd Test.

Knowing Hathuru's approach - I don't think he will make any change to the playing XI. Expect to see the same XI. Let's hope Soumya, Imrul and Nasir shows more maturity in the second Test,

I think I am more happy to see Miraz bhai post again.

BD seniors like Shakib/Tamim are carrying the team. We need the BC seniors to step up too. Otherwise the forum will be full of Soumya, Sabbirs. Imruls :D

Miraz
August 30, 2017, 03:33 PM
I think I am more happy to see Miraz bhai post again.

BD seniors like Shakib/Tamim are carrying the team. We need the BC seniors to step up too. Otherwise the forum will be full of Soumya, Sabbirs. Imruls :D

Thanks Mufi - that's very kind of you. Work commitments keep me away from BC. It feels great to be a part of the vibrant BC community. I wish I could spend more time here. :)