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brockley
September 6, 2017, 05:12 PM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/cricket/ball-tampering-footage-shows-bangladesh-star-rubbing-ball-into-chittagong-pitch/news-story/9421bb86e0c6e0bad87d6a9b80767c69

aklemalp
September 6, 2017, 05:27 PM
Okay, what is this now?

kalpurush
September 6, 2017, 05:29 PM
Interesting news indeed!


Have to wait to see what have actually happened...

brockley
September 6, 2017, 05:40 PM
Possible ball tampering.

DinRaat.
September 6, 2017, 05:42 PM
Possible ball tampering.

Possible?!, that is ball tampering.

jabbar
September 6, 2017, 05:43 PM
Seem like we Aussies love to build a fortress of excuses when a loss is on the cards. I thought the incident was not worth looking at twice.

DinRaat.
September 6, 2017, 05:44 PM
Can't wait for our facebook warriors to come cry and say ICC=ACB

aklemalp
September 6, 2017, 05:44 PM
Why we can't get this news from a non partisan source?

Yankees
September 6, 2017, 05:44 PM
Shakib rubs his hands on the dirt all the time. What's the big deal?

DinRaat.
September 6, 2017, 05:46 PM
Under Law 42, subsection 3 of the Laws of Cricket, the ball may be polished without the use of an artificial substance, may be dried with a towel if it is wet, and have mud removed from it under supervision; all other actions which alter the condition of the ball are illegal. These are usually taken to include rubbing the ball on the ground, scuffing with a fingernail or other sharp object, or tampering with the seam of the ball.[1]


Says so in fineprint, will be lucky if he gets away with this.

DinRaat.
September 6, 2017, 05:47 PM
I'll post the twitter video of him doing it.

DinRaat.
September 6, 2017, 05:56 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This snippet featured in the closer for today's play. Caught my eye. Rubbing the ball on the ground ... doesn't seem right <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BANvAUS?src=hash">#BANvAUS</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cricket?src=hash">#cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/a2MMo7PCuv">pic.twitter.com/a2MMo7PCuv</a></p>&mdash; Paul Cochrane (@paulcochrane) <a href="https://twitter.com/paulcochrane/status/905400439071318016">6 September 2017</a></blockquote>
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kalpurush
September 6, 2017, 06:01 PM
Not conclusive IMHO - have to watch in real time...

This is an animated video - one shot streaming multiple times...


Will hold my comment until I see the full sequence...

Yankees
September 6, 2017, 06:08 PM
Either he's just gathering the ball, or he's gathering the ball to rub it in the dirt, which would be tampering. Why doesn't the video continue and actually show us? Seems like sour grapes from an Aussie fan.

DinRaat.
September 6, 2017, 06:11 PM
As to what Yank and Kalpurush are saying Twitter doesn't allow videos that exceed over 30 seconds in lenght, and videos must be 15MB in size, so I guess that's why.

Yankees
September 6, 2017, 06:13 PM
As to what Yank and Kalpurush are saying Twitter doesn't allow videos that exceed over 30 seconds in lenght, and videos must be 15MB in size, so I guess that's why.

But the video is in a loop, bro. The actul clip is like 2-seconds.

DinRaat.
September 6, 2017, 06:16 PM
But the video is in a loop, bro. The actul clip is like 2-seconds.

Yea, I guess. We will have to wait for further developments.

brockley
September 6, 2017, 06:24 PM
I am not saying he did it,just that their is doubt,thus the question mark.

kalpurush
September 6, 2017, 06:34 PM
I am not saying he did it,just that their is doubt,thus the question mark.

Anybody has Willow TV will be able to watch the entire day three full recording...I must say I have missed the "incident" while I was watching the game...

aklemalp
September 6, 2017, 06:35 PM
Anybody has Willow TV will be able to watch the entire day three full recording...I must say I have missed the "incident" while I was watching the game...

I have Willow TV. Haven't watched the highlights yet. Still at school

aklemalp
September 6, 2017, 06:36 PM
This is what i got from the Google:

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/8b573c9f993c0cb947bedf0de70860b1

DinRaat.
September 6, 2017, 06:46 PM
I have Willow TV. Haven't watched the highlights yet. Still at school

I think it was shown on Fox Sports only.

aklemalp
September 6, 2017, 06:48 PM
I think it was shown on Fox Sports only.

So a moment like this wasn't replayed on TV? Something is fishy here. Why only Fox Sports?

DinRaat.
September 6, 2017, 06:49 PM
So a moment like this wasn't replayed on TV? Something is fishy here. Why only Fox Sports?

No, it was shown on TV, but not by Willow's broadcast. Fox Sports broadcasted this.

aklemalp
September 6, 2017, 06:51 PM
No, it was shown on TV, but not by Willow's broadcast. Fox Sports broadcasted this.

So how did Willow missed it?

Are there different commentators or something?

DinRaat.
September 6, 2017, 06:55 PM
So how did Willow missed it?

Are there different commentators or something?

Fox Sports have their own panel. So yes there are different commentators.

aklemalp
September 6, 2017, 07:08 PM
Fox Sports have their own panel. So yes there are different commentators.

If you wouldn't mind me asking, what are their names?

zman
September 6, 2017, 07:18 PM
But the video is in a loop, bro. The actul clip is like 2-seconds.
Yup, it was repeated 10 times in 11 sec. So it's a 1 sec clip and the length itself arouses suspicion as to the motive of the person who tweeted the image in the first place. Why didn't he make it at least a 3-5 sec clip so one could see what actually happened before and after he gathers the ball. With a 1 sec video, if taken from the correct angle, one can easily create optical illusion leading to this kind of doubt for almost any bowler. As far as I'm concerned it's a non issue unless it's proven beyond doubt that he actually intentionally rubbed the ball against the ground for a lengthier period than what is seen in this clip.

Night_wolf
September 6, 2017, 08:35 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This snippet featured in the closer for today's play. Caught my eye. Rubbing the ball on the ground ... doesn't seem right <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BANvAUS?src=hash">#BANvAUS</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cricket?src=hash">#cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/a2MMo7PCuv">pic.twitter.com/a2MMo7PCuv</a></p>&mdash; Paul Cochrane (@paulcochrane) <a href="https://twitter.com/paulcochrane/status/905400439071318016">6 September 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

where is the full footage? its one gif playing over and over again..proves jackshit

BengaliPagol
September 6, 2017, 10:32 PM
finally glad to hear our boys are playing dirty in order to win a test match. This is what i wanted years ago !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amader boys hungry to win. Take it as a positive boys. Been too long where we just go with the flow and get bullied left right and centre. Times have changed alhamdullilah. Keep up the good work SHAK !!!!

bujhee kom
September 6, 2017, 10:37 PM
This looks like a total rubbish clip from some absolute diaper source...

If Shakib did do anything wrong, IF, then once proven, them any punishment is fair.

MHRAM
September 6, 2017, 10:39 PM
Okay that was an interesting video.

Maybe he was rubbing the ball on the ground to keep it dry? Ball tampering includes use your fingers, zippers or teeth
<br />Posted via BC Mobile Edition

aklemalp
September 6, 2017, 10:40 PM
Shakib has had experience with rubbing balls before. So this is not a surprise. :D

al Furqaan
September 6, 2017, 11:01 PM
Saffers tampered with the ball once upon a time a few years ago.

I highly doubt he was tampering with the ball...he knows there are 15 cameras all over the ground and why would he do it literally under the shadow of the umpire? Besides rubbing the ball on grass isn't going to scuff it up.

This is just a innocent gaffe like Smith looking at the dressing room to figure out if he should take a review or not a few months ago.

Much ado about nothing.

DinRaat.
September 7, 2017, 12:04 AM
where is the full footage? its one gif playing over and over again..proves jackshit

Full footage, 26 seconds. He may get fined.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/footage-shows-bangladesh-star-shakib-al-hasan-appearing-to-tamper-with-ball-in-second-test/news-story/9a34f391161426771ae083c88ca77ddb

Night_wolf
September 7, 2017, 12:06 AM
Full footage, 26 seconds. He may get fined.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/footage-shows-bangladesh-star-shakib-al-hasan-appearing-to-tamper-with-ball-in-second-test/news-story/9a34f391161426771ae083c88ca77ddb

that footage is not available outside australia..how convenient

DinRaat.
September 7, 2017, 12:06 AM
Okay that was an interesting video.

Maybe he was rubbing the ball on the ground to keep it dry? Ball tampering includes use your fingers, zippers or teeth
<br />Posted via BC Mobile Edition

It's a new ball, that's already dry. Now I am gonna get marauded for this, but I think he rubbed the ball to degrade the seam. So it is more spin friendly.

DinRaat.
September 7, 2017, 12:17 AM
Slowed down by 3x

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zman
September 7, 2017, 09:11 AM
This is a good topic for cricket journalists to get some attention. Based on what I've seen in the 1 sec clip, I doubt anyone who knows the rules of tampering will escalate this to higher authorities, simply because it'll expose their lack of understanding of the rules. Shakib does not even scuff the ball here, one can see the ball is actually rotating in his hand and on the ground. When a bowler rubs the ball over their pants they apply almost equal pressure if not more and they don't let the ball rotate. If he does something different in the lengthier clip then it's a different story. However, mission has been accomplished by the tweeter. Most Bangladeshis like me didn't know who Paul Cochrane was until now!

bujhee kom
September 7, 2017, 09:16 AM
It is highly likely that Shakib might be wiping off bird/Kaak/Crow poop/hagu from the ball or spit, snot, thoo thoo that may had got rubbed on the ball from the ground. If this is such a big problem, Mr. umpire is standing right there...what is he doing? I would have wiped the ball on the umpire's pants ...Shakib is just being polite and cleaning the ball on the grass/dust/sand what not.