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iDumb
September 25, 2017, 10:41 AM
Now that the Donald got involved, it's world wide news. But this has been a controversy for past couple of years now.

While kaepernick's upbrining perhaps played a role in his protest against social injustice... Is he right in expressing them by disrespecting the flag?

I think he is wrong and I think (agree with donald) that NFL and every other sports body should take a stand of NO sitting/kneeling during Anthem.

Discuss!

mufi_02
September 25, 2017, 10:56 AM
I agree with Kaepernick. He used to sit out but then he started taking the knee. It is not disrespecting the flag. He is using the platform to bring light to the issue which Afrian-Americans feel very passionate about. Even MLK (who I believe to be the greatest American ever) also took knee as protest.

Many are "more dedicated to order than to justice," offended by kneeling during the Anthem & not by racism & modern-day lynching

aklemalp
September 25, 2017, 11:10 AM
Rosa Parks did not sit down in the bus to protest public transportation.

iDumb
September 25, 2017, 11:19 AM
Did MLK kneel during national anthem ? Every single person is expected to stand during national anthem of any country... that is part of sports ..a sense of unity that is free of any politics ...

The quote u put forth is ironic ... because though kaepernicks action got well published the discussion never went to police brutality ... so he failed even many may argue he had to take this stance to get noticed ...

Let sarker start sitting during bd national anthem for bigotry he faces on Facebook ..see how that plays out for Bangladeshi ppl and Hasina apa...it's a knee to all those who died for your freedom ..

it is failure of ppl that we can't uphold the words of declaration of independence and the constitution .....

what if Hitler won the ww2 ..how the world would look like now ? Though usa has its problems it is still a great country that was created from many bloodshed and sacrifice ...I think least anyone can do is stand up for its national anthem ..

His intention was good but Kaepernik failed ... and this kneeling became a whole new monster ... it's time we put this vile act to rest

Tigers_eye
September 25, 2017, 11:23 AM
In a BCL match, if they play the national anthem and without a cause a fan in the stadium don't stand, what may happen?

I can't remember if they played national anthem in league finals between clubs back in the days (Abahani v Mohamodon).

Habib
September 26, 2017, 02:44 AM
Did MLK kneel during national anthem ? Every single person is expected to stand during national anthem of any country... that is part of sports ..a sense of unity that is free of any politics ...

The quote u put forth is ironic ... because though kaepernicks action got well published the discussion never went to police brutality ... so he failed even many may argue he had to take this stance to get noticed ...

Let sarker start sitting during bd national anthem for bigotry he faces on Facebook ..see how that plays out for Bangladeshi ppl and Hasina apa...it's a knee to all those who died for your freedom ..

it is failure of ppl that we can't uphold the words of declaration of independence and the constitution .....

what if Hitler won the ww2 ..how the world would look like now ? Though usa has its problems it is still a great country that was created from many bloodshed and sacrifice ...I think least anyone can do is stand up for its national anthem ..

His intention was good but Kaepernik failed ... and this kneeling became a whole new monster ... it's time we put this vile act to rest

Not only that. Donald Trump is using it to increase his support. When he gets elected for the second term, the liberals will again wonder how did he get elected again. They just won't understand it's because of things like this.

SportingBD
September 26, 2017, 03:05 AM
Not only that. Donald Trump is using it to increase his support. When he gets elected for the second term, the liberals will again wonder how did he get elected again. They just won't understand it's because of things like this.

They should Stop watching/reading anti trump media channels/news portals etc. It will help them understand situations better. They need to start listening to what the actual source (person) say's instead of a journalist analysing what the person said etc. They need to improve observation skill, especially of social media platforms like FB, Twitter etc.

It will help them form a opinion that is unbiased as they will analyse information they have taken directly from the relative person. Not only Donald Trumps twitter account.

SportingBD
September 26, 2017, 03:31 AM
Donald Trump is a fraud. BUT!

He is a smart, talented and genius fraud. He knows how to manipulate things.
He knows what he needs to say/do to win supporters.

This is very easy to observe, one doesn't need to be a genius to observe this.

Rifat
September 26, 2017, 05:42 AM
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iDumb
September 26, 2017, 09:39 AM
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See this is the beauty of this country ... you don't have to pledge of you don't want to ...a country that gives you this choice while providing for you ... why would you not pledge out of respect ?

I stand and pledge because I want to .... those that say I have rights to exercise my freedom of expression are hypocrites ... yes you have the right because this country allows you to have the right and you chose to not stand for that principal alone .... NK..Saudi .. many countries will not allow u to have those conversation ....

Btw school is a public govt institution .. NFL is a private entity ... if nfl body wants to curve down this nonsense of kneeling it would not be unconstitutional ...


Having said this ..the current kneeling on unison with hand locked isn't necessarily disrespectful because the meaning Changed ... kapernick didn't want to stand for a country where "black ppl are seemingly oppressed " while earning the high life and while not able to show a single country on earth where such subtle opressins aren't there ...

He was sitting initially and then caved to pressure and started kneeling ... I think that is super disrespectful sitting regardless of what you are fighting for or regardless of your rights ...

You have those rights because many died for that .....

iDumb
September 26, 2017, 09:43 AM
Not a single.person is talking about police brutality on young black man... and that my friend shows this was the absolute wrong approach .

iDumb
September 26, 2017, 10:04 AM
And that Ventura video I didn't watch completely and briefly got a sense him saying why are we booing someone who is exercising his right ? Even if we don't agree with him ..

So now I can't even express myself booing while someone else is expressing theirs shitting on a country's pride ? We have gone full blown liberal retards .

Kaerpernick is jobless now and the system takes care of itself ... express your disgust but there are consequences .. it would just be so much easier if the platform for political voice is removed for everyone in sporting events.. 100 million eyes on you ... you decided to abuse it the worst possible way .

iDumb
September 26, 2017, 10:14 AM
I have problem with Pakistani anthem played at Dhaka during our cricket match against them ... but I let it go because I realize I have To tune out everything else and just see it as a competitive match ...

During football world cup matches ..so many countries that have **** basic human rights ... ppl still stand to that anthem because the game is not the place for political message ..

Syria may potentially be in the world cup ... do you watch the game and think I am glad something at least good is happening for the ppl in that country ...they will find joy watching their country in this world event...or do u politicize it ?

Roy_1
September 27, 2017, 11:58 AM
I don't understand this concept of protesting where you are required to insult your country, flag or anthem. I mean there are literally millions of other ways of protesting and making sure your voice is heard. They are taking out their anger and hatred for Trumps on their country, I won't be surprised if Trump is reelected for the second term, I don't think the silent majority or the grass root working class Americans supporting these kind of cheap antics.

Roy_1
September 27, 2017, 12:24 PM
Couldn't help but notice that American minorities especially black and Latinos knows how to milk and exploit the white-guilt, none of my business though.

mufi_02
September 27, 2017, 01:32 PM
Couldn't help but notice that American minorities especially black and Latinos knows how to milk and exploit the white-guilt, none of my business though.

that is a very poor description. institutional racism is still very prevalent in US. it is not as in your face like in the slavery or afterwards jim crows era. but rather has been institutionalized and faced by African-Americans every day. The memory of 200+ years of racism is still raw. Americans went to moon before the blacks could even went to same school, drink from the same fountain, or eat at same restaurants as whites. Even few months ago, someone vandalized Lebron James' house with the N word. Just let that sink in. So "milking and exploiting" is the narrative of Breitbart and rest. Not even Fox.

iDumb
September 27, 2017, 01:42 PM
Couldn't help but notice that American minorities especially black and Latinos knows how to milk and exploit the white-guilt, none of my business though.

Race and relations are very complicated in USA and if you don't live in us ..it is somewhat difficult to understand ... it's difficult even if you live here ..

So I would not Say what you just wrote above anywhere else .

Kaerpernick from what I gathered initially Wil likely not stand anywhere during national anthem (tv or no tv ) ...

the current kneeling is all show and stupidity .... and the president of usa has much pressing issues to deal with ...It is ridiculous that he is involved ... so I don't really care what everyone is doing now following Twitter ....

Wth do owner of cowboy understand about being marginalized ? Wtf is he kneeling for ? He supports free speech ? That was never under threat in united states ...

Kaeoernic was clear ..he didn't want to stand for a country that oppressed black ppl ... while ignoring all the country offered him ... and by not standing t's the sense of hypocrisy that is upsetting ..

Many ppl don't like usa meddling with many world politics ... going into war ... you can disagree with all that but while being in USA you should not in my opinion disrespect the nation because it is so much more than just one thing ...

iDumb
September 27, 2017, 01:48 PM
If usa finally make to world cup ...(maybe ppl will forget by then ) I won't be surprised if half the stadium do not stand during its anthem... what is trump gonna do then ? Idiot making domestic problem international news....

Roy_1
September 27, 2017, 02:21 PM
@iDumb and @Mufi thanks for your valuable inputs, should have avoided blanket statements like that, I have nothing against blacks or Hispanics nor do I have any extra fondness for the whites, should have framed it in a different way, my bad.

Tigers_eye
September 27, 2017, 02:31 PM
Couldn't help but notice that American minorities especially black and Latinos knows how to milk and exploit the white-guilt, none of my business though.When you are targeted and shot while your arms are up... what step can you take to protect your next generation from receiving same treatment? You try to come up with a solution. What happened in LA was for real. What happened in St. Louis was for real. Look at Arizona. Blatant violation of federal judge's order.

Tigers_eye
September 27, 2017, 02:38 PM
I liked the idea of kneeling before the anthem and when it starts, stand up and show respect to the flag.

Those who knelt said they are doing that not to disrespect the flag or those who gave life for America. It is against President's foul mouth, double standard of not calling the W supremists and criticizing the NFL protest, Police brutality against the Blacks and Hispanics etc.

Roy_1
September 27, 2017, 02:38 PM
@iDumb, @Mufi, @Tigers_Eye have you guys ever experienced any kind of racism, blunt or subtle? Don't get me wrong I am just being curious, you don't have to answer if you don't want to

mufi_02
September 27, 2017, 02:39 PM
No worries. As idumb said, race is a very complicated issue here in US. It is not as black and white as it seems. It is the country's ultimate original sin. US would not have been a global dominant power had it not exploited free labor up until 1860.

Only about 50 some odd years ago, there were crowds protesting and spitting on a little black girl going to an all white school. But on the other hand it is still the land of the opportunity and provides paths to unlimited success to anyone who works hard regardless of race, religion, and ethnicity.

The memories of the past 200 years will always haunt America. US is not a generic nation like all other (maybe except Canada/Aus). It is not like UK, China, Russia, India who has a native population and history dating back thousands of years. The history of US is still very new.

The native population has been almost entirely wiped out. The colonial settlement opened a fraction of the land in the form of first 13 very small states. The European immigration later expanded it further up and opened couple more interior/middle states until the Mississippi river. The final push to the frontier opened the west and states such as California and the Pacific Coast. It is a very fascinating story.

It is as if the best and the worst of the Old World came with a second chance to build the New World.

mufi_02
September 27, 2017, 02:42 PM
@iDumb, @Mufi, @Tigers_Eye have you guys ever experienced any kind of racism, blunt or subtle? Don't get me wrong I am just being curious, you don't have to answer if you don't want to

I have not. People in general are very nice. I never had any bad experience with any Americans in my almost 16 years of being here. Whatever terrible experiences I had were with other immigrant population (desi mostly).

Roy_1
September 27, 2017, 02:46 PM
When you are targeted and shot while your arms are up... what step can you take to protect your next generation from receiving same treatment? You try to come up with a solution. What happened in LA was for real. What happened in St. Louis was for real. Look at Arizona. Blatant violation of federal judge's order.

I kinda made an a$$ out of myself with that comment, it does not represent me, my thoughts or my upbringing, please ignore that.

Yankees
September 27, 2017, 03:02 PM
Irrespective of how you feel, you have to respect a man willing to lose out on millions of endorsements/contract deals to stand up (or take a knee) for what he believes in.

Colin is not some end of the bench type player. It was not too long ago that he lead the 49ers to the SuperBowl in his rookie year.

And as far as "respecting the country" is concerned. Why should you respect a country that doesn't respect you and your people's rights as a citizen? When Sheikh Mujib stood up for his people, he was disrespecting his country as well. Blind patriotism is just dumb.

Yankees
September 27, 2017, 03:22 PM
@iDumb, @Mufi, @Tigers_Eye have you guys ever experienced any kind of racism, blunt or subtle? Don't get me wrong I am just being curious, you don't have to answer if you don't want to

Racism for South Asians increased and intensified after 9/11. Most of the backlash was against the South Asian communities of all kinds, but mainly Sikhs for their turbans. Racist idiots just equate Arabs with brown Asians.

Also, look up "dot busters" hate group. They specifically targeted South Asians in New Jersey back in the 80s and 90s. (Dot, because of the bindi desi women wear). :facepalm:

Roy_1
September 28, 2017, 09:35 AM
Racism for South Asians increased and intensified after 9/11. Most of the backlash was against the South Asian communities of all kinds, but mainly Sikhs for their turbans. Racist idiots just equate Arabs with brown Asians.

Also, look up "dot busters" hate group. They specifically targeted South Asians in New Jersey back in the 80s and 90s. (Dot, because of the bindi desi women wear). :facepalm:

Vilifying the immigrants has always been the easy escape root:facepalm:, not singling out the Americans though, however the situation is much much improved now isn't it?

Indian Americans albeit the most financially successful community in US, lack political muscle IMHO, although keeping a low profile did work for them I believe.

iDumb
September 29, 2017, 09:27 AM
And as far as "respecting the country" is concerned. Why should you respect a country that doesn't respect you and your people's rights as a citizen? When Sheikh Mujib stood up for his people, he was disrespecting his country as well. Blind patriotism is just dumb.

Another internet generic comment that appears great but has little depth or meaning.

Blind patriotism is dumb. Respect for a country is not. Sheikh mujib reference doesn't really correlate sorry.

How is the country disrescting "his ppl"? I am sorry but this guy actually grew up white if you read his biography. Why aren't any other black ppl standing up if things are so dire? Despite what it appears, the civil rights leaders and all those Black live matters are a powerhouse.

Look how musliims are treated.. do you have anyone that can stand up for them like Black ppl do? A muslim getting shot near airport, you will hear not a single peep. Let a police officer slap a black guy and have it caught on tape.. it is an instant million dollar lawsuit.

OBAMA was the president for God sake. Should he also sit during the national anthem because his black ppl are not being respected in the country.

I am pretty sure he didn't know he wasn't gonna be signed as a consequence of this.. it just happened. so he didn't "willingly give up" money..

DinRaat.
September 29, 2017, 09:30 AM
So fun watching the American BCites, argue about political morality in a forum.

I'll move along now.

Yankees
September 29, 2017, 09:38 AM
How is the country disrescting "his ppl"? I am sorry but this guy actually grew up white if

OBAMA was the president for God sake.

hahaha great stuff. Yea I'm not going to bother explaining this to you. You should move on, this is above your grade.

Obama was President, everything is fine y'all :lol:

tonmoy.dhaka
September 29, 2017, 11:43 AM
Irrespective of how you feel, you have to respect a man willing to lose out on millions of endorsements/contract deals to stand up (or take a knee) for what he believes in.

Colin is not some end of the bench type player. It was not too long ago that he lead the 49ers to the SuperBowl in his rookie year.

And as far as "respecting the country" is concerned. Why should you respect a country that doesn't respect you and your people's rights as a citizen? When Sheikh Mujib stood up for his people, he was disrespecting his country as well. Blind patriotism is just dumb.

Totally agree.
I love Bangladesh but I will never shy away from voicing my opinion of its numerous flaws. That is not patriotism.
People think just because Barack Obama was a black president, that makes everything okay in terms of race relations. That cannot be further from the truth. Just as a FYI, APJ Abdul Kalam was a muslim and president of India under BJP rule and at the time when Gujrat riot was a hot topic. Similarly our current chief Justice Surendra Kumar Sinha is a hindu at a time when minorities are hardly protected in Bangladesh.

iDumb
September 29, 2017, 02:44 PM
hahaha great stuff. Yea I'm not going to bother explaining this to you. You should move on, this is above your grade.

Obama was President, everything is fine y'all :lol:

You don't have to explain anything to me ... I know what I said .. you should read my previous posts ... the plight of not being white is not lost on me ...i am brown and Muslim :) Sometimes it's more worse when you are the only non white person .

You are obviously missing the point ...

Nowhere did I mention Obama was the president so everything is fine ... far far from it. I am pretty sure even he faced some sort of racism growing up ... and he would equally be a target if he was in the wrong place wearing the wrong clothes ....

You have to read the post in context of not standing for country's flag ... that's why the extreme example about Obama on why sitting on the flag is so ridiculous because the country can seemingly oppress you but it can also give you the presidency ...

And dear tonoy... no one is arguing against voicing your opinion ..that's not the point .. also the point is not whether minorities are protected or not ...you don't have to go that far ...

The nations with very low women's rights and empowerment Bangladesh had barely seen a man at the helm in its short history.... while hasina apu is at the right position to change many things even she is also powerless when it comes to certain social problems and injustice .... but will she start saying this is not my country ? Not in a million years ... this is the country her father created ....

BSNGLADESH isn't found with the principal of women oppression ... USA is not found to exclusively oppress minorities ... there are just so much more to a flag and it anthem ..... why is it fair for someone who lost a son for a country to be next to someone who keeps on telling him your son died for nothing ?

Anyways ... ppl form their thoughts based on experience ... I find it extremely wrong sitting during anthem ... you don't know what the anthem and the flag means for whom . The flag and anthem.of the United States do not represent black oppression.

If it did go ahead burn it

iDumb
September 29, 2017, 03:01 PM
Btw patriotism will.allow you to make positive change ... it is a good thing. MLK made change instilling sense of patriotism not the other way round. He wanted a nation of equality and often quoted the declaration of independence ... and his words sometimes brings shivers down your spine ..he is a true leader .. and ppl equating his sad kneeling to this punk as kaepernicj who is instilling opposite feelings...

and Kapernick the cry baby with his privileged up brining thinks he is a hero ...

So yes kapenick and some of you are not patriots but leeches ..

tonoy
September 29, 2017, 04:38 PM
And dear tonoy...


Not me bruh..

_Rafi_
September 29, 2017, 05:55 PM
Why play national anthem before the start of the match at all? Nationalism is the worse kind of bigotry and if anything is done to weaken it I am all for it. The player in the question was right to not standing up for it. It is not disrespectful, it is just an showing of abstinence.

iDumb
September 30, 2017, 12:32 AM
Not me bruh..

Sorry bro ..you usually don't write like that..
.it makes sense now .. I placed dear because I thought it was you and trying to be respectful while disagreeing with you ..

The other Dhaka guy it was ..makes more sense now....those two are similar in thought process ... internet heroes they are . And gets their news from Facebook comment section

DinRaat.
September 30, 2017, 01:14 AM
This is ironic, when someone disrespects the US flag, SJW arm themselves with their keyboards.

Did you guys forget, how many flags the US has disrespected metaphorically, in the name democracy.

iDumb
September 30, 2017, 01:26 AM
This is ironic, when someone disrespects the US flag, SJW arm themselves with their keyboards.



Don't follow sorry ... ? Social justice warrior hahaha ..have u been reading my posts ??

While you live in the USA ..draw a check from usa .... use the platform usa has provided for you.... you learn to respect what it stands for and fight for its constitutional rights and the uphold words of its founding fathers ...

If you are not in USA ...it doesn't really matter whether u stand or not during national anthem.. . I think many of you having difficulty comprehending me because you are either not American or a far detached immigrant ...

If I am ever in Dhaka for bd vs pak match ..I ain't standing during their anthem .

DinRaat.
September 30, 2017, 01:49 AM
Don't follow sorry ... ? Social justice warrior hahaha ..have u been reading my posts ??

While you live in the USA ..draw a check from usa .... use the platform usa has provided for you.... you learn to respect what it stands for and fight for its constitutional rights and the uphold words of its founding fathers ...

If you are not in USA ...it doesn't really matter whether u stand or not during national anthem.. . I think many of you having difficulty comprehending me because you are either not American or a far detached immigrant ...

If I am ever in Dhaka for bd vs pak match ..I ain't standing during their anthem .

This is being blown far out of proportion, It is his right whether to choose to kneel or stand, and correct me if i am wrong, isn't america the "land of the free". There are bigger things to be taken in the picture, than this whole fiasco.

But I agree with you, kneeling in this case was not the right thing to do.

Yankees
September 30, 2017, 11:04 AM
You don't have to explain anything to me ... I know what I said .. you should read my previous posts ... the plight of not being white is not lost on me ...i am brown and Muslim :) Sometimes it's more worse when you are the only non white person .

You are obviously missing the point ...

Nowhere did I mention Obama was the president so everything is fine ... far far from it. I am pretty sure even he faced some sort of racism growing up ... and he would equally be a target if he was in the wrong place wearing the wrong clothes ....

You have to read the post in context of not standing for country's flag ... that's why the extreme example about Obama on why sitting on the flag is so ridiculous because the country can seemingly oppress you but it can also give you the presidency ...

And dear tonoy... no one is arguing against voicing your opinion ..that's not the point .. also the point is not whether minorities are protected or not ...you don't have to go that far ...

The nations with very low women's rights and empowerment Bangladesh had barely seen a man at the helm in its short history.... while hasina apu is at the right position to change many things even she is also powerless when it comes to certain social problems and injustice .... but will she start saying this is not my country ? Not in a million years ... this is the country her father created ....

BSNGLADESH isn't found with the principal of women oppression ... USA is not found to exclusively oppress minorities ... there are just so much more to a flag and it anthem ..... why is it fair for someone who lost a son for a country to be next to someone who keeps on telling him your son died for nothing ?

Anyways ... ppl form their thoughts based on experience ... I find it extremely wrong sitting during anthem ... you don't know what the anthem and the flag means for whom . The flag and anthem.of the United States do not represent black oppression.

If it did go ahead burn it

Coherence and clarity. Try it sometime.

iDumb
September 30, 2017, 11:24 AM
Coherence and clarity. Try it sometime.

The internet hero has spoken! And widened my world view .. thank you

And come up with something new that I havnt hurled at you which simply u writing back .... then again originality is not your forte ...

Sheeps usually get eaten ... but they make a lot of noise though

Yankees
September 30, 2017, 11:29 AM
The internet hero has spoken! And widened my world view .. thank you

And come up with something new that I havnt hurled at you which simply u writing back .... then again originality is not your forte ...

Sheeps usually get eaten ... but they make a lot of noise though

You're welcome. Thought they only one making all the noise seems to be you, my friend.

Here's another piece of advice:
"..." is not a conjunction. It makes for piss poor writing and results in nonsensical ramblings. (see above for examples).

iDumb
September 30, 2017, 11:32 AM
You're welcome. Thought they only one making all the noise seems to be you, my friend.

Here's another piece of advice:
"..." is not a conjunction. It makes for piss poor writing and results in nonsensical ramblings. (see above for examples).

I am not your "friend" .. and don't wanna be associated with you
Friending little girls online is a crime in many countries ..except I think in Kathmandu

Yankees
September 30, 2017, 11:35 AM
I am not your "friend" .. and don't wanna be associated with you
Friending little girls online is a crime in many countries ..except I think in Kathmandu

".." is also not a conjunction. It's no different than "..." But atleast you are improving. In a couple of months, you might drop to just 1 "." (we call that a period).

al Furqaan
October 3, 2017, 12:18 AM
I mean there are literally millions of other ways of protesting and making sure your voice is heard.

African Americans have been extremely patient and peaceful when you factor the kinds of atrocities they have put up with. Just imagine how Indian Muslims would react if India had forced them to till the farmland for 300 years and were now shooting them on sight for their identity alone.

Sow what is the proper way, in a democratic country for someone to air their grievances?
Trevor Noah has asked the question a lot more poignantly than most have before:

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iDumb
October 3, 2017, 01:23 AM
Trevor Noah is not really that smart of a guy to be honest .... and a bit too liberal to a fault for my taste .

He maybe black and he maybe from the era of apartheid but he is also from south Africa and confusing some race relations that aren't necessarily similar in the United States ...

The proper protest is one that is effective that is the answer..... police shooting is not an awareness problem ..it is a bias problem (and that bias is multifactorial ) . Sitting during anthem can perhaps bring ?awareness but it won't eliminate bias ..I don't understand noahs repeated question really .

There are successful movement perhaps one should take a leaf out of ... MLK . Gandhi . Mandela .. peaceful that attacks a man's conscience . Anyways that's another discussion .

Some of Trevor noahs anti trump rhetoric lately are also very childish and desperate at best .. I miss John Stewart. Stewart actually gave you prospecting worth pondering... Trevor is on the other hand a borderline clown but occasionally funny .

al Furqaan
October 4, 2017, 09:07 AM
John Stewart is a legend...its unfair to compare anyone to him.

But his question is apt...how are black people supposed to protest? Its actually just an excuse. Peaceful protest is "offensive", marching in the streets is a "riot".

You saw the sum of that mindset when Tomi Lahren a rich white teenager who only has her job due to her looks says "she's not a victim and thats why she doesn't protest".

Eclipse
October 4, 2017, 09:55 AM
Despicable act. Should be kicked out of America.

aklemalp
October 4, 2017, 10:00 AM
Despicable act. Should be kicked out of America.

Kick people out for expressing their 1st Amendment right?

Rifat
October 4, 2017, 08:36 PM
America and her people right now going through an identity crisis. There is currently no universal definition of What exactly makes you an American or what it means to stand up or sing the national anthem. it means different things to different people.

Kaepernick has every right to protest against social injustice. It's how he is doing it that people disagree with.

al Furqaan
October 13, 2017, 04:19 PM
Despicable act. Should be kicked out of America.

Who brought them to America to begin with and why and how?

In the US 1A applies for all.

DinRaat.
October 13, 2017, 08:57 PM
Despicable act. Should be kicked out of America.

Oh, how rich, the impersonator, commenting in a thread about identity crisis

iDumb
October 16, 2017, 10:24 AM
QB Colin Kaepernick files grievance for collusion against NFL owners

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21035352/colin-kaepernick-files-grievance-nfl-owners-collusion

Now he is filing lawsuit against owners for "collusion" because no one is hiring him. The irony of life. So much for willing to lose out on money. He had no clue it was gonna come to this. Feel bad for the guy a little but should have seen it coming.