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Tigers_eye
September 29, 2017, 12:30 PM
Although we have done fairly well in recent Test results I feel there is something missing in leadership for the test team. Do you not agree?

Here in our BC community, what is our collective feelings on this subject? Put forth your reasons if you think there should be a captain change. I can surely argue on both sides.

Tigers_eye
September 29, 2017, 12:34 PM
Argument for Musfique:

Don't chop change leadership. Stability is more important for improvement. Send him to captaincy training or something. Or get a Great captain and let Mushfique spend some time with him.

He is the best bat we got. May be take his WK responsibility for him to concentrate on captaincy.

(I typed it up with a straight face, lol)

Tigers_eye
September 29, 2017, 12:34 PM
Miraz: The boy's name should be sponge. He takes in all that is thrown at him. U-19 experience.

Too young? How old was G Smith when he took over the captaincy? How many senior senior player was in the team? Miraz is a natural leader. Unless you put him there you wouldn't know how talented and inspiring he can be.

Tigers_eye
September 29, 2017, 12:35 PM
Sabbir. The future of BD. Groom him.

His eyes!!!! Eye of the Tiger....

We need one who can take over in all formats. He is getting the consistency done soon. :)

5tonne
September 29, 2017, 12:37 PM
Mushfiqur Royehim.

Eshen
September 29, 2017, 12:41 PM
Shakib is the natural leader of this bunch. However, making him the official captain will mean Papon will have to intervene lot more frequently with all these head butting Hathuru and Shakib will get into.

Tigers_eye
September 29, 2017, 12:41 PM
Mushfiqur Royehim.Ainner bhatiza lage ni?

cricman
September 29, 2017, 01:05 PM
Tough because you only 5 Test standard players on the team

Night_wolf
September 29, 2017, 01:18 PM
Mashrafee..play him as a batsman only, still will put more value to the team than shafiul

SportingBD
September 29, 2017, 01:45 PM
Miraz is my first option.

But the likely outcome would be Tamim.

MHRAM
September 29, 2017, 01:49 PM
Miraz: The boy's name should be sponge. He takes in all that is thrown at him. U-19 experience.

Too young? How old was G Smith when he took over the captaincy? How many senior senior player was in the team? Miraz is a natural leader. Unless you put him there you wouldn't know how talented and inspiring he can be.

I love Miraz and he is matured:notworthy:

But Miraz hasn't showed maturity with the bat just yet and unless he starts doing so I won't be convinced

aklemalp
September 29, 2017, 01:50 PM
Ashraful 5.0

Night_wolf
September 29, 2017, 01:56 PM
I love Miraz and he is matured:notworthy:

But Miraz hasn't showed maturity with the bat just yet and unless he starts doing so I won't be convinced

Miraz is useless on pitches that doesn't offer much turn, Unless he improves his batting and get that avg upto 30-35 I dont see we picking him outside Asia.

your captain needs to be a first choice

Fazal
September 29, 2017, 02:27 PM
Looks like Rahim is a mentally challenged person with some symptom of village idiot with a track record of selfishness. He cannot be a good leader or a role model for the young players.

He is completely opposite of what Mashrafee is as a captain.

Short Term, even they are not perfect, Tamim or sakib would be a good choice. In the mean time BCB should groom a new Captain out of the new breed of players like Miraj/Nazmul or someone else.

Rinathq
September 29, 2017, 02:42 PM
why are we even talking about Shabbir and Miraz? Shabbir doesnt even warrant a place in the 14 let alone be a captain. He doesnt even understand the format and its just Haturi's stupidity he is in the team. It will take a long time before he even gets the format. Miraz.. i said it before and i will say it again.... he is a potential leader of the future but right now, he is young, inexperienced. His batting is still unpredictable and his bowling needs a lot of aid from the condition to be effective.

Its between Shak and Tam for the role and I would give it to Tamim. I think their captaincy skills are similar but Tamim is a more professional personal and will also keep a lot of unnecessary swag and bias away compared to Shakib

Tigers_eye
September 29, 2017, 02:55 PM
why are we even talking about Shabbir and Miraz? ...To get this thread longer? May not be everyone's cup of tea. They got votes though.
Its between Shak and Tam for the role and I would give it to Tamim. I think their captaincy skills are similar but Tamim is a more professional personal and will also keep a lot of unnecessary swag and bias away compared to Shakib:)

Tigers_eye
September 29, 2017, 03:00 PM
Looks like Rahim is a mentally challenged person with some symptom of village idiot with a track record of selfishness. He cannot be a good leader or a role model for the young players.

He is completely opposite of what Mashrafee is as a captain.

Short Term, even they are not perfect, Tamim or sakib would be a good choice. In the mean time BCB should groom a new Captain out of the new breed of players like Miraj/Nazmul or someone else.Let me be the devil's advocate here.

Shak Fu: Needs rest time to time. Will retire from Test cricket sooner than you think. Will chew up people if not performing (miss fielding etc.) on live TV. Will grow few extra wings for sure.

Tamim: I am not sure how much more matured he has become than Mushfiq. Did you see him play the last ball of the day? :facepalm: Marginal difference of damn caring of 121/4 to 127/3. The risk was astronomical. Played like a pro bowler.

godzilla
September 29, 2017, 03:12 PM
Mashrafee, from the pavillion. E-)

Rinathq
September 29, 2017, 03:16 PM
To get this thread longer? May not be everyone's cup of tea. They got votes though.
:)

elaborate the smiley my friend :ohno:

Eclipse
September 29, 2017, 03:27 PM
Nothing is missing from the leadership. Mushy is the best leader we've got right now. But as usual few of my friends here r trying to make him the culprit for our horrendous performance in south africa, but the truth is he hasn't done much wrong in this test.

simon
September 29, 2017, 03:45 PM
Mahmudullah Ryad is the only captaincy mterial we hve.
He will be the opposite of Mushy, not mny runs but better captaincy.

Eclipse
September 29, 2017, 04:04 PM
Look at option we have right now. All of them are terrible.

1. Shakib: Horrible choice. The guy has abandoned his team and decided not to play in a test series which is perhaps one of the most difficult serieses Bangladesh have played in recent times. This type of irresponsible and egotistical player can never be the leader of a national team.


2. Mirz: Another terrible choice. He doesn't even deserve a place in the playing 11 outside Asia. He got hammered in new Zealand and now getting similar treatment in SA as well. This guy depends on doctored rank turners to get wickets. In addition he isn't a good batsman either since he has lots of holes in his batting technique. So, outside Asia he's neither a bowler nor a batter. A perfect example of bits and pieces cricketer who doesn't deserve a spot in the playing 11 let alone leading the side.


3. Mashrafee: Seriously? This guy isn't fit enough to last 5 hours in a 50 over ODI match and here ppl r expecting him to last 5 days?

Besides this, he's become a mediocre bowler off late and his 120 km pies certainly won't give him any wickets. Truth is, mash doesn't deserve a spot in playing 11 in any form of cricket. Any other decent side would've surely forced him to retire by now due to his poor fitness, but here we r thinking about making him a test captain :facepalm:

4. Shabbir: lol. If anyone is interested to know the number of shabbir's brain cell he should watch shabbir's batting, on field antics or read the comments he made about his aggressive batting approach.


5. Tamim : Only player in our team who's suitable for the captaincy job right now. But he's the best batsman of our team who is going through a purple patch. Added responsibility might hamper his batting form and we might lose the only test quality batsman we have in our whole team.

Mushy is by far the best captain Bangladesh has ever produced. He has led his team from the front with both both bat and gloves. This should be the quality of a captain.

But sadly here we see that players who doesn't come to bowl during death overs, doesn't come to bowl when opposition gets on top and usually hides behind young players get all the respect for some unexplainable reasons.

SportingBD
September 29, 2017, 04:17 PM
Mahmudullah Ryad is the only captaincy mterial we hve.
He will be the opposite of Mushy, not mny runs but better captaincy.

Agree with this. BUT Gadha can't score runs in test cricket.:facepalm:

Otherwise, would have been clear favourite for the captaincy.

roman
September 29, 2017, 04:29 PM
I wanted Shakib but dont know if he is still interested in Tests. I also wanted Riyad, but his place is not secured and is not in Haturu's good book. But I think Riyad as a captain will do lot better if given the opportunity. But thats not going to happen.

So Tamim it is.

SportingBD
September 29, 2017, 04:33 PM
I wanted Shakib but dont know if he is still interested in Tests. I also wanted Riyad, but his place is not secured and is not in Haturu's good book. But I think Riyad as a captain will do lot better if given the opportunity. But thats not going to happen.

So Tamim it is.

Tamim is like an enforced choice. But - I think he will be huge improvement to Mushy.

I mean, both Tamim and Mushy's captaincy in BPL was horrific.
They have been pretty bad, and that's being kind.

Tamim had Chittagong Kings/Vikings (under achieved a lot last BPL + others)
And Mushy what can we say? we just know, even the recent Barisal incident.

roman
September 29, 2017, 04:35 PM
Tamim is like an enforced choice.

I mean, both Tamim and Mushy's captaincy in BPL was horrific.
They have been pretty bad, and that's being kind.

Tamim had Chittagong Kings/Vikings (under achieved a lot last BPL + others)
And Mushy what can we say? we just know, even the recent Barisal incident.

Yup, agree with this. But to be honest, anyone is better than Mush at this moment. This guy has been a total let-down. He has been our captain for the last 7-8 years still act like a rookie. :facepalm:

al Furqaan
September 29, 2017, 04:36 PM
Mashrafee..play him as a batsman only, still will put more value to the team than shafiul

At least Shafiul had the lowest econ rate.

Why is Imrul in the team? Why is Sabbir in the team? Possibly to give cover to the coach to unfairly drop Mominul and Mosaddek at the earliest convenience?

There are way too many questionable selections.

If Riyad and Sabbir dont get 50s...they need to pay. Really you want bigger scores but lets settle for 50s forst.

SportingBD
September 29, 2017, 04:43 PM
Yup, agree with this. But to be honest, anyone is better than Mush at this moment. This guy has been a total let-down. He has been our captain for the last 7-8 years still act like a rookie. :facepalm:

Yeah.

Bit scared of Tamim's arrogance.
I hope captaincy doesn't make him too arrogant.

Hopefully he can manage media duty better! And not lose his temper etc. I don't think we have like professional cricketers with like good media skill/how to speak in press conference etc.

I saw Mehedi speak to media. MashAllah so good. Future captain for sure. Very intelligent.

Gowza
September 29, 2017, 05:06 PM
In the same boat as always because no one has been able to keep there spot and be groomed properly and the older guys have their own issues. Tamim and mushy are horrible captains, shakib is a bad role model, riyad can't keep his spot, imrul's spot is always in question.

Mominul might be an option but what is he like as a captain? And really, he's still finding his feet at test level so it's a bit risky throwing the captaincy on him.

Who else is there? Sabbir or mehedi, way too early for them I'd say, and sabbirs spot in the team isn't even assured.

I think a possible solution is to give it to shakib short term, until mominul or mehedi or whoever the next captain is is ready. But I sure hope they've already picked the next captain and start grooming them. TBH, way I see it at current only possible future captains are mominul and mehedi, otherwise we are stuck with mushy or tamim or shakib for many more years to come.

DinRaat.
September 29, 2017, 06:45 PM
Nothing is missing from the leadership. Mushy is the best leader we've got right now. But as usual few of my friends here r trying to make him the culprit for our horrendous performance in south africa, but the truth is he hasn't done much wrong in this test.

Troll. :down:

adamnsu
September 30, 2017, 12:00 AM
Nothing is missing from the leadership. Mushy is the best leader we've got right now. But as usual few of my friends here r trying to make him the culprit for our horrendous performance in south africa, but the truth is he hasn't done much wrong in this test.

Apart from your first sentence I have to agree.

But if a change is required then Tamim could be a replacement. Don't think Shakib wants the job.

5tonne
September 30, 2017, 04:57 AM
Ainner bhatiza lage ni?

Kon ga? Mushfiqqa na Roeyhimma?

tiger1000
September 30, 2017, 05:13 AM
Apart from your first sentence I have to agree.

But if a change is required then Tamim could be a replacement. Don't think Shakib wants the job.

You agree he's done nothing wrong in south africa

1 - chooses to bowl first, when everyone said it's the wrong choice, not with hindsight, said beforehand

2 - he bowls Mehedi with new ball

3 - doesn't give taskin shafiul mustafizur opportunities with new ball

4 - gives no tactical advice to bowlers

5 - rotates bowlers awfully

6 - gives no inside the circle fielders to Mehedi, so he can't stop singles

7 - doesn't give post day conference, because he can't defend his decisions, sends sabbir

tiger1000
September 30, 2017, 05:17 AM
In the same boat as always because no one has been able to keep there spot and be groomed properly and the older guys have their own issues. Tamim and mushy are horrible captains, shakib is a bad role model, riyad can't keep his spot, imrul's spot is always in question.

Mominul might be an option but what is he like as a captain? And really, he's still finding his feet at test level so it's a bit risky throwing the captaincy on him.

Who else is there? Sabbir or mehedi, way too early for them I'd say, and sabbirs spot in the team isn't even assured.

I think a possible solution is to give it to shakib short term, until mominul or mehedi or whoever the next captain is is ready. But I sure hope they've already picked the next captain and start grooming them. TBH, way I see it at current only possible future captains are mominul and mehedi, otherwise we are stuck with mushy or tamim or shakib for many more years to come.

Tamim has advantages over mushfiq, he has less ego on the field, he is willing to ask for help, it was clear who took over vs England, he asked Shakib to handle the bowling side of things, he asked Mehedi for field setting tips

He's willing to ask and delegate, he realises he's a mediocre captain, something mushfiq doesn't

Gowza
September 30, 2017, 05:19 AM
Tamim has advantages over mushfiq, he has less ego on the field, he is willing to ask for help, it was clear who took over vs England, he asked Shakib to handle the bowling side of things, he asked Mehedi for field setting tips

He's willing to ask and delegate, he realises he's a mediocre captain, something mushfiq doesn't

Yeah well something needs to be done, I'd take tamim over mushy at this point.

DinRaat.
September 30, 2017, 05:24 AM
Anyone considered Mominul to take the role, he clearly performs in tests.

Gowza
September 30, 2017, 06:00 AM
Anyone considered Mominul to take the role, he clearly performs in tests.

Think it's too early, want him to become a run machine like its auto pilot before putting extra pressure on him.

Jadukor
September 30, 2017, 06:19 AM
I guess it would have to be Sir Ash

simon
September 30, 2017, 07:03 AM
Or Paapon khaluji