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R0ssei
May 1, 2018, 08:34 AM
This may not be the best time to start an open discussion thread on Football (soccer) as the European club seasons and UCL are near ending and the WC is knocking at the door. But I hope the fans here who have keen interest in football besides cricket will give it a shot to last it long.

As I said, this is open to any football related discussion whether it’s about Messi vs Ronaldo, ARG vs BRA, El Classico, EPL vs LaLiga, Mo Salah for Ballon d'Or, Resurrection of Liverpool, Struggles of ManU & Arsenal and so on. Take your pick or start your own!

Meanwhile I will present some FIFA and UEFA stats to add some fuel:

FIFA Ranking (Top 5)
<table style="height: 153px; width: 400px;" border="1"><tbody><tr style="height: 0px;"><td style="width: 106px; height: 0px;"><strong>World</strong></td><td style="width: 137px; height: 0px;"><p><strong>CONMEBOL</strong><br /><strong>(South America)</strong></p></td><td style="width: 122px; height: 0px;"><p><strong>UEFA</strong><br /><strong>(Europe)</strong></p></td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 106px; height: 18px;">1) Germany</td><td style="width: 137px; height: 18px;">1) Brazil</td><td style="width: 122px; height: 18px;">1) Germany</td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 106px; height: 18px;">2) Brazil</td><td style="width: 137px; height: 18px;">5) Argentina</td><td style="width: 122px; height: 18px;">3) Belgium</td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 106px; height: 18px;">3) Belgium</td><td style="width: 137px; height: 18px;">9) Chile</td><td style="width: 122px; height: 18px;">4) Portugal</td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 106px; height: 18px;">4) Portugal</td><td style="width: 137px; height: 18px;">11) Peru</td><td style="width: 122px; height: 18px;">6) Switzerland</td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 106px; height: 18px;">5) Argentina</td><td style="width: 137px; height: 18px;">16) Colombia</td><td style="width: 122px; height: 18px;">7) France</td></tr></tbody></table>

UEFA Ranking (Top 5)
<table style="height: 153px; width: 400px;" border="1"><tbody><tr style="height: 0px;"><td style="width: 97px; height: 0px;"><p><strong>Top 5<br /></strong><strong>UEFA Leagues</strong></p></td><td style="width: 110px; height: 0px;"><p><strong>Top 5<br /></strong><strong>UEFA Clubs</strong></p></td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 97px; height: 18px;">1) La Liga</td><td style="width: 110px; height: 18px;">1) Real Madrid</td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 97px; height: 18px;">2) EPL</td><td style="width: 110px; height: 18px;">2) Athletico Madrid</td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 97px; height: 18px;">3) Bundesliga</td><td style="width: 110px; height: 18px;">3) Byyern Munchen</td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 97px; height: 18px;">4) Serie A</td><td style="width: 110px; height: 18px;">4) Barcelona</td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 97px; height: 18px;">5) Ligue 1</td><td style="width: 110px; height: 18px;">5) Juventus</td></tr></tbody></table>

FIFA Best – 2017 (Top 5)
<table style="height: 192px; width: 400px; background-color: d5f5e3;" border="1"><tbody><tr style="height: 0px;"><td style="width: 123px; height: 0px;"><strong>Best Player<br />(2017)</strong></td><td style="width: 152px; height: 0px;"><strong>Best Goalkeeper<br />(2017)</strong></td><td style="width: 125px; height: 0px;"><p><strong>Best Coach<br />(2017)</strong></p></td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 123px; height: 18px;">1) C Ronaldo</td><td style="width: 152px; height: 18px;">1) G Buffon</td><td style="width: 125px; height: 18px;">1) Z Zidance</td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 123px; height: 18px;">2) L Messi</td><td style="width: 152px; height: 18px;">2) M Neuer</td><td style="width: 125px; height: 18px;">2) A Conte</td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 123px; height: 18px;">3) Neymar</td><td style="width: 152px; height: 18px;">3) K Navas</td><td style="width: 125px; height: 18px;">3) M Allegri</td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 123px; height: 18px;">4) G Buffon</td><td style="width: 152px; height: 18px;">4) T Courtois</td><td style="width: 125px; height: 18px;">4) J Low</td></tr><tr style="height: 18px;"><td style="width: 123px; height: 18px;">5) S Ramos</td><td style="width: 152px; height: 18px;">5) H Lloris</td><td style="width: 125px; height: 18px;">5) J Mourinho</td></tr></tbody></table>

FIFA FIFPro World XI (2017)
(4-3-3 Formation)

G Buffon (GK)
D Alves (RFB), L Bonucci (CB), S Ramos (CB), Marcelo (LFB)
L Modric (RMF), T Kroos (CMF/DMF), A Iniesta (LMF)
L Messi (RW), C Roanldo (CF), Neymar (LW)


Let's begin...

aklemalp
May 1, 2018, 08:36 AM
How old is buffoon?

R0ssei
May 1, 2018, 09:01 AM
How old is buffoon?

Only 40. :D

aklemalp
May 1, 2018, 09:12 AM
Only 40. :D

That guy been playing forever.

I think that's the thing with goalies in hockey also.

Wasn't there used to be a CONCACAF division in football?

R0ssei
May 1, 2018, 09:28 AM
That guy been playing forever.

I think that's the thing with goalies in hockey also.

Wasn't there used to be a CONCACAF division in football?

Although I'm an all-time Azzurri fan, I never liked Buffon that much. Baggio & Maradona are my all time fav. I just love playmakers as I used to be one.

Anyways, FIFA still has 6 confederations:
1. CAF
2. CONCACAF
3. CONMEBOL
4. OFC
5. AFC
6. UEFA

I didn't include others as they don't have high impact on overall rankings.

roman
May 1, 2018, 10:07 AM
Although I'm an all-time Azzurri fan, I never liked Buffon that much. Baggio & Maradona are my all time fav.



I Was a die hard Baggio and Maradona Fan also. Long time Azzuri fan. I lost interest in this WC after Italy failed to qualify. Will be rooting for Argentina though but will be surprised if they go far.

Buffon has been playing since 2002 WC if I am not mistaken. His save in 2006 final won Italy the World cup. The great header by Zidane and the fantastic save by Buffon is simply the most exultant moment in football for me. I remember screaming like a maniac after that save.

R0ssei
May 1, 2018, 10:52 AM
Italy's successful run in 2006 WC is still a surprise to me. WC FInals are not for me as I simply can't support either Brazil or Germany.

But the most heartbreaking moment for me was Baggio's miss at 94 WC Final against Brazil. He single-handedly took ITA into final and then couldn't hold his nerve at the end when he was such a cool-headed player and a terrific penalty taker. Made me cry which made my mom cry.

Anyway, I didn't lose all interest in this upcoming WC although Italy couldn't qualify. Even if they did, they would perform poorly as they didn't come up with fresh talents for almost a decade now. I will be supporting ARG as well, mostly for Messi. But I think he had his opportunity last time. He is short of Maradona just by a WC Trophy.:D

tonmoy.dhaka
May 2, 2018, 08:01 AM
Biggest fan of LFC (liverpool) here. Champions league semi finals coming up.. cannot wait.

Irrespective of what one may say, English Premier League is the best league in the world. It is the only league where the no 20th team can steal points off two of the best teams in the EPL for two consecutive weeks and no one would notice. (ex WBA against Man Utd and Liverpool).

La liga is a two horse race (Real and Barcelona) where the contest is more about who scores the most goals . Messi or Ronaldo and altogether 6 good games in 8 months between Real, Barca and Atleti.
Yes their two best teams have all the best players in the world but that makes the competition even more bland.

R0ssei
May 2, 2018, 08:39 AM
Biggest fan of LFC (liverpool) here. Champions league semi finals coming up.. cannot wait.

Irrespective of what one may say, English Premier League is the best league in the world. It is the only league where the no 20th team can steal points off two of the best teams in the EPL for two consecutive weeks and no one would notice. (ex WBA against Man Utd and Liverpool).

La liga is a two horse race (Real and Barcelona) where the contest is more about who scores the most goals . Messi or Ronaldo and altogether 6 good games in 8 months between Real, Barca and Atleti.
Yes their two best teams have all the best players in the world but that makes the competition even more bland.

I agree. My first love for a club was Liverpool and Abahoni (during 90's). To me at that age, Liverpool was the only club in EPL who played short-passes, 1-to-1 which was more eye-catching than typical/boring European style football. Of course, over years, things blended a lot between South America and Europe.

Presently, since the trio (Mo Salah+Firmino+Mané) are doing wonders again for Liverpool, I'm rooting for them. As I'm not a die-hard fan of any particular club, I just enjoy good football (except few clubs). However, Barca, Liverpool & ManCity are my fav nowadays. Can't stand RM as they have too many star players at almost every position and any sane person cannot like what Ramos, Pepe (ex) and sometimes Casemiro do in the field :down::down::down:. And Ramos is considered one of the greatest defenders :facepalm:.

Perhaps people forgot Maldini, Nesta, Cannavaro - the ATG Italian Defense in my lifetime.

mufi_02
May 2, 2018, 09:19 AM
Biggest fan of LFC (liverpool) here. Champions league semi finals coming up.. cannot wait.

Irrespective of what one may say, English Premier League is the best league in the world. It is the only league where the no 20th team can steal points off two of the best teams in the EPL for two consecutive weeks and no one would notice. (ex WBA against Man Utd and Liverpool).

La liga is a two horse race (Real and Barcelona) where the contest is more about who scores the most goals . Messi or Ronaldo and altogether 6 good games in 8 months between Real, Barca and Atleti.
Yes their two best teams have all the best players in the world but that makes the competition even more bland.

another die hard Liverpool fan here from the days of Kenny Dalglish :D (as a player)..

but seriously from the days of gerrard, carragher, and owen.

important game today. man if we haven't conceded those last 2 goals, it would have been so easy. I still hope we can make it and humiliate Real in the final.

mane, salah, firmino at top with Henderson, Wijnaldum, Milner in middle should be good. But our defense is poor compared to other top teams.

mufi_02
May 2, 2018, 03:42 PM
Damn what a game. Liverpool goes to final on 7-6 aggr.

The best two legs of CL semi final I have witnessed

Tausif
May 2, 2018, 08:19 PM
Can't stand RM as they have too many star players at almost every position and any sane person cannot like what Ramos, Pepe (ex) and sometimes Casemiro do in the field :down::down::down:. And Ramos is considered one of the greatest defenders :facepalm:.

You can't stand RM because they have too many star players? What's wrong with supporting a team filled with star players? And same could be said about players like Luis Suarez, Dani Alves, Jordi Alba, Victor Valdes etc and they play/played for Barcelona. It's all about perspective. It's easy to pick faults of your neighbor than look at your own backyard.

As for Ramos, he might not be the greatest defender but he is one of the greatest easily for his defensive skills alone. That is why he features in all best defenders list every year because they look at his defensive skills, not his antics. Perhaps you need to look at things objectively.

R0ssei
May 2, 2018, 11:02 PM
You can't stand RM because they have too many star players? What's wrong with supporting a team filled with star players? And same could be said about players like Luis Suarez, Dani Alves, Jordi Alba, Victor Valdes etc and they play/played for Barcelona. It's all about perspective. It's easy to pick faults of your neighbor than look at your own backyard.

As for Ramos, he might not be the greatest defender but he is one of the greatest easily for his defensive skills alone. That is why he features in all best defenders list every year because they look at his defensive skills, not his antics. Perhaps you need to look at things objectively.

I might have used a wrong word here. Let me rephrase: I simply cannot like RM for players like Ramos, Pepe and Casemiro. Physical challenge is an integral part of defending, but not to that extent when a monster size defender (Pepe) steps on opponent's face or another (Ramos) gets a yellow card (some of which should be a straight RED) almost every 2-3 games.

And RM currently has too many good players at every position. Something similar to Brazil or Australia in cricket some years ago. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it - I just naturally don't fall for them unless it's Bangladesh.

And I can't watch/follow a sport objectively. That means I can't only look for my fav team to win/lose or my fav player to score or not. Football will lose all its beauty to me. When a player scores, I will want to know how he scored it, who assisted - the whole setup.

BTW, you automatically and typically brought Barcelona into the comparison. As I said before, I'm not a die-hard fan of any current club or player. So, there is nothing wrong in liking RM and its players, but when you say Ramos is the best defender and absolutely ignore what else he does in the field - that's not the spirit I care.

Tausif
May 2, 2018, 11:33 PM
I might have used a wrong word here. Let me rephrase: I simply cannot like RM for players like Ramos, Pepe and Casemiro. Physical challenge is an integral part of defending, but not to that extent when a monster size defender (Pepe) steps on opponent's face or another (Ramos) gets a yellow card (some of which should be a straight RED) almost every 2-3 games.

And RM currently has too many good players at every position. Something similar to Brazil or Australia in cricket some years ago. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it - I just naturally don't fall for them unless it's Bangladesh.

And I can't watch/follow a sport objectively. That means I can't only look for my fav team to win/lose or my fav player to score or not. Football will lose all its beauty to me. When a player scores, I will want to know how he scored it, who assisted - the whole setup.

BTW, you automatically and typically brought Barcelona into the comparison. As I said before, I'm not a die-hard fan of any current club or player. So, there is nothing wrong in liking RM and its players, but when you say Ramos is the best defender and absolutely ignore what else he does in the field - that's not the spirit I care.

There is matter of personal opinion which you rephrased to just now and then there is making statements like "any sane person cannot like what Ramos, Pepe (ex) and sometimes Casemiro do in the field". My reply to was just that only because if we are talking sanity, then some of the stuff for example Suarez does are also not something a sane person can like if we were to go by your statement. Regardless, every big team will have a Ramos, Vidal, Suarez etc. who are known for their antics.

Fair enough on the good players point, if that's what you prefer.

And I am not sure what you mean typically? How often have you seen me bring Barcelona into a conversation? For the record, I only brought Barcelona because you mentioned right before RM parts that Barcelona is one of your favorite teams and I do not watch the other teams you mentioned enough to know which players are known for their antics. You brought up the question of sanity by others so I mentioned that the team you support also contains players that have done not so sane things in the past going by your statement. As for the Ramos part, I was just responding to your statement as to why he is considered one of the best. When they are giving the Balon D'or to let's say Messi or Ronaldo, they are not looking at who they fouled, how many cards they got, or how ugly they were with other players. They are basing it on their respective stats, titles, and season performance. That's the same in Ramos's case. You might look at things outside of his abilities such as antics and spirit while others do not, that's all. Doesn't mean you are right and they are wrong or they are right and you are wrong. It's just what aspects people value over others.

At the end, I would not have questioned any of your statements if you phrased in terms of personal opinion instead of making it seem like you're judging everyone who like those players and RM in general.

tonmoy.dhaka
May 3, 2018, 08:27 AM
Damn what a game. Liverpool goes to final on 7-6 aggr.

The best two legs of CL semi final I have witnessed

We've conquered all of Europe,
We're never going to stop,
From Paris down to Turkey,
We've won the f****ing lot,
Bob Paisley and Bill Shankly,
The Fields of Anfield Road,
We are loyal supporters,
And we come from Liverpool!
Allez, Allez, Allez,
Allez, Allez, Allez,
Allez, Allez, Allez,
Allez, Allez, Allez...

tonmoy.dhaka
May 3, 2018, 08:34 AM
Not a big fan of Real Madrid because they represent Franco's Fascist Spain. Cannot tolerate Barcelona because of the Oscar worthy acting by their players (Suarez, Busquets, Umtiti etc) and not to mention they say "they represent Catalonia, they are more than a Club" but they refused to abandon playing a La Liga game when Catalonia was burning because 3 points in La liga was more important.

Barcelona at one time was doing the right thing i.e Develop their youth (via La Masia) , play beautiful football . However now, they rely on buying trophies. They target players to revolt against their clubs so that Barca can buy them for cheap (ex Dembele and Coutinho). They play ugly Mourinhoesque football.

Anyways enough ranting. Time to enjoy Klopp and LFC. Allez Allez Allez

mufi_02
May 3, 2018, 10:35 AM
Barcelona at one time was doing the right thing i.e Develop their youth (via La Masia) , play beautiful football . However now, they rely on buying trophies. They target players to revolt against their clubs so that Barca can buy them for cheap (ex Dembele and Coutinho). They play ugly Mourinhoesque football.



ah Coutinho. how did that work out? hahaha..

RM doesn't have any likable players. I can't stand Varane, Vasquez, Isco, Ramos. They are an effective them though. They played very ugly on the 1st leg in Munich and was able to score 2 goals but it was just not fun to watch.

Same with Man U. They lack creativity and flair of Man City/Liverpool now. Heck, I even find Tottenham with Son, Harry Kane, Erikson, Dele Ali more entertaining than the likes of Lukaku, Martial, Sanchez, Pogbas. But once again Man U has picked up the game this year and will finish 2nd most likely. They will do well in EPL but won't go far against other top European games and its evident from their loss against Sevilla.

Tausif
May 3, 2018, 11:45 AM
ah Coutinho. how did that work out? hahaha..

RM doesn't have any likable players.

Damn what did players like Modric, Navas, Kroos do lol.

And funny thing about Coutinho is that he said he joined Barcelona to win the Champions League and now Liverpool are in the CL final and have a good chance of winning it while Barcelona are eliminated:lol:

tonmoy.dhaka
May 3, 2018, 12:31 PM
Damn what did players like Modric, Navas, Kroos do lol.

And funny thing about Coutinho is that he said he joined Barcelona to win the Champions League and now Liverpool are in the CL final and have a good chance of winning it while Barcelona are eliminated:lol:

Personally I dislike Sergio Ramos and used to hate Pepe (hope I do not have to explain the reasoning). The rest are ok.

Coutinho will still get a Champions league medal is LFC wins. Given his contribution in the group stages it is deserved to a certain degree. However he is a Judas.

mufi_02
May 3, 2018, 12:59 PM
Damn what did players like Modric, Navas, Kroos do lol.

And funny thing about Coutinho is that he said he joined Barcelona to win the Champions League and now Liverpool are in the CL final and have a good chance of winning it while Barcelona are eliminated:lol:

Navas looks like Shafiul's big brother minus the long hair. Modric and Kroos are decent though. Forgot about Benzema and his scandal.

On Countinho, I believe he made his intentions clear in the beginning of the season and was able to leave mid season. I was worried that Liverpool will suffer but they clearly didn't.

I see you are a real fan. I will see you on 05/26 then.

As Mash would say, Liverpool dhoira diba ne real re aibar. Just gotta tighten up that defense.

R0ssei
May 3, 2018, 01:05 PM
There is matter of personal opinion which you rephrased to just now and then there is making statements like "any sane person cannot like what Ramos, Pepe (ex) and sometimes Casemiro do in the field". My reply to was just that only because if we are talking sanity, then some of the stuff for example Suarez does are also not something a sane person can like if we were to go by your statement. Regardless, every big team will have a Ramos, Vidal, Suarez etc. who are known for their antics.

Fair enough on the good players point, if that's what you prefer.

And I am not sure what you mean typically? How often have you seen me bring Barcelona into a conversation? For the record, I only brought Barcelona because you mentioned right before RM parts that Barcelona is one of your favorite teams and I do not watch the other teams you mentioned enough to know which players are known for their antics. You brought up the question of sanity by others so I mentioned that the team you support also contains players that have done not so sane things in the past going by your statement. As for the Ramos part, I was just responding to your statement as to why he is considered one of the best. When they are giving the Balon D'or to let's say Messi or Ronaldo, they are not looking at who they fouled, how many cards they got, or how ugly they were with other players. They are basing it on their respective stats, titles, and season performance. That's the same in Ramos's case. You might look at things outside of his abilities such as antics and spirit while others do not, that's all. Doesn't mean you are right and they are wrong or they are right and you are wrong. It's just what aspects people value over others.

At the end, I would not have questioned any of your statements if you phrased in terms of personal opinion instead of making it seem like you're judging everyone who like those players and RM in general.

Fair enough. By "typical" I meant the typical RM vs Barca fight over social media, not specific to you. It's perhaps the first time we're arguing on anything.

Although I like the playing style of Barcelona or Liverpool or ManCity, I watch other teams' games as well, especially if they are renowned like RM or ManU and so on. Naturally, my support goes to the weaker side. However, I can have a neutral view on how it's being played. For example, being an Azzurri fan all my life, I would like to see Serie A teams do well. However I would still dislike if they fail to show any attractive football (like they played more physical football in UCL SF). Although I was rooting for LFC yesterday, I would still talk about how Roma didn't get a penalty from the first handball (but the one they got wasn't perhaps right either).

I hope you get my point. I like beautiful football whether it's technical or eye-catching. I can't be blind on features like red-card category fouls, super-aggressive tackling, intentional handballs, slapping/kicking/biting opponents, act of falling in D-box to get unfair penalty - whoever does it from whichever team.

Talking about Ramos, yes, he is a good defender. But I also see his outrageous activities which are more frequent than any other. I wouldn't allow such nature in my team (if I had any) just for the sake of winning. And yes, It's my personal opinion. People can still love him. Fans of Spain or RM will definitely love him. Who am I to stop this? I'm just saying what I think and believe.

mufi_02
May 3, 2018, 01:15 PM
^Seria is a one team league these days. Juve is about to win their 7th championship (scudetto) in a row. That is unimaginable in EPL and La Liga. Maybe only Bayern and PSG has such dominance in their respective leagues.

But Napoli is getting better these days. Both Inter and AC Milan are a shadow of their former glorious teams. Roma surprised everyone in CL and the Barca game was one of the biggest shock in recent memory. Juve is so confident that they don't feel special winning Seria anymore.

There is a new Netflix documentary on Juve called the First Team. Highly recommend it if you are Azzuri fan.

R0ssei
May 3, 2018, 01:22 PM
Personally I dislike Sergio Ramos and used to hate Pepe (hope I do not have to explain the reasoning). The rest are ok.

Coutinho will still get a Champions league medal is LFC wins. Given his contribution in the group stages it is deserved to a certain degree. However he is a Judas.

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After this, he should have got a life-ban.
And RM should have been penalized for playing such player.

R0ssei
May 3, 2018, 01:35 PM
^Seria is a one team league these days. Juve is about to win their 7th championship (scudetto) in a row. That is unimaginable in EPL and La Liga. Maybe only Bayern and PSG has such dominance in their respective leagues.

But Napoli is getting better these days. Both Inter and AC Milan are a shadow of their former glorious teams. Roma surprised everyone in CL and the Barca game was one of the biggest shock in recent memory. Juve is so confident that they don't feel special winning Seria anymore.

There is a new Netflix documentary on Juve called the First Team. Highly recommend it if you are Azzuri fan.

I know man. Serie A used to be the 2nd best league in Europe with Juve, AC & Inter Milan, Roma, Parma, Fiorentina, Napoli, Lazio. Those days are long gone and so is Italian soccer. They need to regain the status of Serie A in order to better their national team.

Tausif
May 3, 2018, 01:41 PM
Fair enough. By "typical" I meant the typical RM vs Barca fight over social media, not specific to you. It's perhaps the first time we're arguing on anything.

Although I like the playing style of Barcelona or Liverpool or ManCity, I watch other teams' games as well, especially if they are renowned like RM or ManU and so on. Naturally, my support goes to the weaker side. However, I can have a neutral view on how it's being played. For example, being an Azzurri fan all my life, I would like to see Serie A teams do well. However I would still dislike if they fail to show any attractive football (like they played more physical football in UCL SF). Although I was rooting for LFC yesterday, I would still talk about how Roma didn't get a penalty from the first handball (but the one they got wasn't perhaps right either).

I hope you get my point. I like beautiful football whether it's technical or eye-catching. I can't be blind on features like red-card category fouls, super-aggressive tackling, intentional handballs, slapping/kicking/biting opponents, act of falling in D-box to get unfair penalty - whoever does it from whichever team.

Talking about Ramos, yes, he is a good defender. But I also see his outrageous activities which are more frequent than any other. I wouldn't allow such nature in my team (if I had any) just for the sake of winning. And yes, It's my personal opinion. People can still love him. Fans of Spain or RM will definitely love him. Who am I to stop this? I'm just saying what I think and believe.

Fair enough. Like I said already, if you would have phrased all of this as a personal opinion to begin with, we would not be having this conversation.

And I hope you also have the same stance on Suarez as you have on Pepe as you’ve been pointing out this whole time. Both have done some despicable stuff that should have gotten them a life ban but here they are.

tonmoy.dhaka
May 4, 2018, 10:38 AM
El Clasico coming up this sunday!!
Not the same excitement with the league winners already decided. I think the Spanish FA got it wrong this time with their schedule.

I will be supporting Real only because how Barca operated in the transfer market with Coutinho and Dembele.
Hope to see a good game.

I am however sweating about the liverpool Chelsea game this sunday!! I just hope we draw the game and qualify for CL .

R0ssei
May 4, 2018, 12:27 PM
El Clasico coming up this sunday!!
Not the same excitement with the league winners already decided. I think the Spanish FA got it wrong this time with their schedule.

I will be supporting Real only because how Barca operated in the transfer market with Coutinho and Dembele.
Hope to see a good game.

I am however sweating about the liverpool Chelsea game this sunday!! I just hope we draw the game and qualify for CL .

But won't it boost Real up for CL final? I thought you're an LFC fan. :)

tonmoy.dhaka
May 7, 2018, 08:21 AM
But won't it boost Real up for CL final? I thought you're an LFC fan. :)

Real are always ready for Champions League. Champions League is in their DNA.

Liverpool build and developed coutinho for the past 5 years, they had no reason to sell either since money is no longer an issue for most English clubs (given the TV money). So it was really bad how Barcelona approached behind the back to get the Coutinho deal done. Plus the barca presidents are known for their under the table deals and some of them are actually in prison now.

R0ssei
May 7, 2018, 08:34 AM
^
LFC didn't seem to play good at all against the Chelsea game. I only watched the highlights, so not sure. I hope they put up a good show in the UCL final although it will be hard to beat RM.

tonmoy.dhaka
May 7, 2018, 08:49 AM
^
LFC didn't seem to play good at all against the Chelsea game. I only watched the highlights, so not sure. I hope they put up a good show in the UCL final although it will be hard to beat RM.

You are right. LFC did not play well. I was not expecting them to play well either. This was their 9th game in the past 30 days. When you consider the size of LFC squad, this is hard for the team. They now literally have 11 players for 11 positions. Absolutely no one left on the sub bench who are first team material.
Joe Gomez, Emre, Ox, Lallana are all injured.

However that being said, LFC play their best when they can gegenpress and they can only do that when they are fit enough to run the distance . With atleast a week gap for the next games, I expect LFC to play better.

Nocturnal
May 18, 2018, 01:28 AM
2 big finals in next 2 Sat. .
19 - FA cup - United vs Chealse
26 - Champions League - Real vs Liverpool ...

And after that, WC starting on June 14th ... Life's good :)

R0ssei
May 18, 2018, 09:48 AM
Among the big teams, both Brazil and France announced their 23-men squad for 2018 Fifa WC. Brazil looks like a balanced team considering Neymar comes back all healthy and wise.

Since Italy is out, I won't mind seeing either Messi or Ronaldo lifting the trophy this time, however both are very unlikely.

tonmoy.dhaka
May 18, 2018, 12:13 PM
The best teams (on paper)
Belgium
France
Brazil
Spain
Germany

Over rated teams: England , Argentina , Portugal

Wildcard: Croatia, Senegal

Team everyone loves: Iceland

I would love England to win but that aint happening.

aklemalp
May 18, 2018, 12:20 PM
Over rated teams:...Argentina , Portugal


Oh yeah...:D

R0ssei
May 18, 2018, 12:59 PM
I would say:

Tier 1: Brazil & Germany
Tier 2: France & Spain
Tier 3: Argentina & Portugal (just because they have Messi & CR7)

Belgium, Iceland and so on don't stand a chance to win the WC.

tonmoy.dhaka
May 18, 2018, 01:06 PM
Oh yeah...:D

Argentina is great going forward, but their Defense including Defensive mid is absolute garbage... Mascherano is still their best CDM.. ... They almost did not qualify for the WC and there is a good reason for it.

Portugal has 2 awesome players in Ronaldo and Gelson Martins. The rest are between average and good.

roman
May 18, 2018, 01:09 PM
The best teams (on paper)
Belgium
France
Brazil
Spain
Germany

Over rated teams: England , Argentina , Portugal

Wildcard: Croatia, Senegal

Team everyone loves: Iceland

I would love England to win but that aint happening.

Argentina is an over rated team indeed. Without Messi, dont think they can even beat Asian teams

I am actually looking forward to see how Belgium performs. Would be nice if they can take the cup home ( highly doubt). Tired of seeing Brazil and Germany lifting the cup every time. Want a new team to win it.

aklemalp
May 18, 2018, 01:16 PM
Tunisia somehow always make the cut.

I miss Chile and China

R0ssei
May 18, 2018, 01:53 PM
Belgian Star-Footballers (current):

1. KBD (one of the best advanced playmakers of current time)
2. Lukaku (overrated)
3. Hazard (overrated)
4. Kompany (passed his prime)
5. Fellaini (no comments)

tonmoy.dhaka
May 18, 2018, 02:39 PM
Belgian Star-Footballers (current):

1. KBD (one of the best advanced playmakers of current time)
2. Lukaku (overrated)
3. Hazard (overrated)
4. Kompany (passed his prime)
5. Fellaini (no comments)

Hazard is not overrated... He plays when he feels like with Chelsea... Watch the match against Liverpool..

There is also Naingollan (best in Serie A), Toby Alderweirald (One of the best D in EPL), Vertonghen. Also Kompany is still one of the best, his problem is injury.

Tausif
May 18, 2018, 07:49 PM
I would say:

Tier 1: Brazil & Germany
Tier 2: France & Spain
Tier 3: Argentina & Portugal (just because they have Messi & CR7)

Belgium, Iceland and so on don't stand a chance to win the WC.

Agree with this. I would actually put Spain in Tier 1 too. They have a phenomenal team this time.

Belgium, Iceland, England all same category. Don't think they will fare well this World Cup.

Tausif
May 19, 2018, 08:38 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdgYxDYW0AQEYcC.jpg

aklemalp
May 19, 2018, 10:32 PM
So England's best shot in a long time

SportingBD
May 20, 2018, 12:07 PM
There's lot less media hype around the England team compared to previous WC.
Young team, has some quality players.

Looking forward to seeing the trio Kane/Vardy/Stirling start up front.

DinRaat.
May 22, 2018, 03:44 AM
I would say:

Tier 1: Brazil & Germany
Tier 2: France & Spain
Tier 3: Argentina & Portugal (just because they have Messi & CR7)

Belgium, Iceland and so on don't stand a chance to win the WC.

Where is Australia in this tier nomenclature of yours?

tonmoy.dhaka
May 22, 2018, 01:09 PM
There is always media hype around England and they always fail because of lack of team unity. That is what worries me. English players are unique in the sense that they put club over country. This is what makes EPL so great and English NT so bad.

If England could not do anything with Gerrard Scholes Lampard , I am not sure if they can do a lot with Loftus Cheek and Henderson!! Team unity is what is needed.

R0ssei
May 22, 2018, 01:47 PM
Where is Australia in this tier nomenclature of yours?

Tier 0 :D

R0ssei
May 24, 2018, 08:36 AM
Argentine goalkeeper Sergio Romero has been ruled out of the World Cup with a knee injury. A big blow to an already-weakened ARG side.

Nahuel Guzman has been called into the squad as Romero's replacement. Chelsea's Willy Caballero, with only two caps, will most likely be in the starting 11.

aklemalp
May 24, 2018, 08:57 AM
How many guys from th last world cup will not make it in this world cup?

Is That guy from Africa, Drogba, still playing?

R0ssei
May 24, 2018, 10:25 AM
^
I think he only played for Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire). I believe he retired from national appearances. Nevertheless, Ivory Coast didn't qualify for 2018 WC.

mufi_02
May 26, 2018, 05:04 PM
F Ramos! Seriously that was one dirty play. And now possibly Salah is the out of the WC!

And Karius! No comment.

Absolutely heartbroken.

R0ssei
May 27, 2018, 08:55 AM
^
Absolutely. And the RM fans are defending him saying Salah "wrapped" his hand first. No1's talking about that Ramos locked him, pulled him while falling down and then never let it go until he could put his body weight on Salah's shoulder. The last act was a disgrace and surely deserved a yellow card. Well, rather Mane got it w/o stepping/hitting Ramos. VAMOS RAMOS !!!!!!!!!!?????????

I so wanted to see Salah in the WC. It must be heart-breaking for Egypt.

aklemalp
May 27, 2018, 09:01 AM
Is this Ramos Srgio?

R0ssei
May 28, 2018, 06:52 AM
A Chittagong-based garment factory named KEPZ made the WC 2018 official jackets for ARG, GER, SPA, BEL, COL, MEX and RUS under the brand Adidas.

If not football, then our garments industry never stopped progressing...

http://www.prothomalo.com/bangladesh/article/1497676/%E0%A6%AE%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%BF-%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BF%E0%A7%9F%E0%A7%87%E0%A 6%B8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%87% E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%97%E0%A6%BE%E0%A7%9F%E0%A7%87-%E2%80%98%E0%A6%AE%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%A1-%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%A8-%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%82%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BE%E0%A 6%A6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B6%E2%80%99

R0ssei
May 29, 2018, 08:44 AM
New Trend: Putin conspired to Mo Salah's injury at UCL final so that Russia qualifies easily from Group A in WC 2019. :goal: #FunnyTweet

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeJspiqXkAAZHXl.jpg

iDumb
May 30, 2018, 04:49 PM
^^not sure about funny tweet but that is so wrong.

Without salah Egypt is nothing. He is gonna be out for 3 to 4 weeks apparently.. which means may miss first 2 games.

With him on and 100% i see egypt progressing from that group.

R0ssei
May 31, 2018, 07:01 AM
Zidane stepped down as Real Madrid manager.

SportingBD
June 8, 2018, 09:37 AM
BC Mods/admins should arrange a WC Fantasy League!

Give the winner custom title?

This kind of initiative can keep everyone engaged.

aklemalp
June 11, 2018, 07:56 PM
Is Iceland the Ireland (cricket wise) of this world cup?

DinRaat.
June 12, 2018, 12:50 AM
Australia had a really good showing at the friendles, defeat Czech Republic and Hungary 4-0 and 2-1 respectively and drew with Colombia.

iDumb
June 12, 2018, 01:48 AM
we should make a sub forum for WC like previous 3 x. Cna't stop now.

Australia aint making the second round . I have tix to game 52 - don't wanna it to be Arg vs Aus. No interest in watching a faltu team like aus.

hoping for a france argentinia in knock out somehow... finger crossed.

Jadukor
June 12, 2018, 11:48 PM
Argentina in a very tricky group. Not feeling too confident.

R0ssei
June 13, 2018, 06:24 AM
Canada, Mexico and USA combined will host the 2026 Football WC. They just outbid Morocco this morning at FIFA Congress vote.

roman
June 13, 2018, 09:45 AM
Argentina in a very tricky group. Not feeling too confident.

Arg may go to Qtr Final and thats about it. Wont go further than that I think. Brazil will be eliminated in Semi. It might be a France/Germany/Spain Final

Night_wolf
June 13, 2018, 11:03 AM
Arg may go to Qtr Final and thats about it. Wont go further than that I think. Brazil will be eliminated in Semi. It might be a France/Germany/Spain Final

aibaro ki 7 khan goal khabe?

roman
June 13, 2018, 11:19 AM
aibaro ki 7 khan goal khabe?

LOL mone hoy na jodi Neymar khele.

iDumb
June 13, 2018, 11:40 AM
Canada, Mexico and USA combined will host the 2026 Football WC. They just outbid Morocco this morning at FIFA Congress vote.

don't know how to feel about this.

negatives:

1. u don't get to see a new country
2. atmosphere will not be as festive as usa is just too big
3. Tix will be impossible to get

positive:
Cost will be relatively lower

iDumb
June 13, 2018, 11:40 AM
can we get the sub forum running please... already..1 day left.

aklemalp
June 13, 2018, 05:28 PM
can we get the sub forum running please... already..1 day left.

I second you in your request for a sub-forum

Ready for Russia versus Saudi Arabia

aklemalp
June 13, 2018, 05:44 PM
So 60 games for US, and 10 each for Mexico and Canada.

But that's the WC when there will be 48 teams.

Hope to see those new teams...

I'm actually getting interested here

aklemalp
June 13, 2018, 08:56 PM
I'm gonna root for Iceland.

Ice Ice Baby!!!!

DinRaat.
June 14, 2018, 04:24 AM
My prediction either 2-1 To Saudi or 1-1 draw, dont see Russia winning this.

DinRaat.
June 14, 2018, 04:25 AM
I'm gonna root for Iceland.

Ice Ice Baby!!!!

Why don't you root for USA. :lol: :floor:

R0ssei
June 14, 2018, 07:13 AM
don't know how to feel about this.

negatives:

1. u don't get to see a new country
2. atmosphere will not be as festive as usa is just too big
3. Tix will be impossible to get

positive:
Cost will be relatively lower

I just felt bad for Morocco as it was simply competing against almost a whole continent. Anyhoo, I finally can expect to watch a WC game live in Toronto stadium or smth. I wish Canada could host more than 10 games.

Moreover, Canada will get to play as a host nation. That's new. Hopefully, it will push this hockey-crazy nation to go forward with football.

aklemalp
June 14, 2018, 07:24 AM
Why don't you root for USA. :lol: :floor:

Sometimes you really outdumb yourself.

USA not part of this WC

iDumb
June 14, 2018, 08:00 AM
Sometimes you really outdumb yourself.

USA not part of this WC

he is being sarcastic. He is picking on the wrong person. Defer him to me.. Aussie talking big on football - i hope they are aware not to touch the ball with their hand.

Yankees
June 14, 2018, 08:47 AM
I just felt bad for Morocco as it was simply competing against almost a whole continent. Anyhoo, I finally can expect to watch a WC game live in Toronto stadium or smth. I wish Canada could host more than 10 games.

Moreover, Canada will get to play as a host nation. That's new. Hopefully, it will push this hockey-crazy nation to go forward with football.

Losing the bid was the best thing to happen to the people of Morocco. The amount of money they would have spent is nonsensical. Best thing about United bit is that all 3 countries already have facilities ready.

The only thing I don't like about this bid is that Canada has no business being in the world cup.

aklemalp
June 14, 2018, 08:49 AM
he is being sarcastic. He is picking on the wrong person. Defer him to me.. Aussie talking big on football - i hope they are aware not to touch the ball with their hand.

I knew. I do hope and sure that he read your comments.

I don't even like the US team even if they would have make it here.

I'm a perennial Brazil guy, because we share a border with them.

But I love the way Iceland got in.

iDumb
June 14, 2018, 09:38 AM
I don't even like the US team even if they would have make it here.

.

I have put you in my shi& list.!!

Always support USA :goal::goal:

aklemalp
June 14, 2018, 09:43 AM
I have put you in my shi& list.!!

Always support USA :goal::goal:

Hahha

I love the Women's team though. Still no love?E-)E-)

R0ssei
June 14, 2018, 10:34 AM
Losing the bid was the best thing to happen to the people of Morocco. The amount of money they would have spent is nonsensical. Best thing about United bit is that all 3 countries already have facilities ready.

The only thing I don't like about this bid is that Canada has no business being in the world cup.

Almost any country would suffer from financial losses by hosting WC as FIFA takes away most of the earnings. Do you think that Morocco wasn't aware of it? Did FIFA push them to bid?

Re: Canada, no they don't have the facility to host WC. Yes, they can co-host few matches. And they aren't as bad as Bangladesh or smth in FIFA ranking neither as good as USA. However, soccer (not basketball, not hockey or baseball) is the most played sports in Canada. Every kid in school play soccer. Hence, I said, it's good thing for Canada.

Jadukor
June 14, 2018, 10:53 AM
De de 4ta khaoai deeee

Yankees
June 14, 2018, 12:06 PM
Almost any country would suffer from financial losses by hosting WC as FIFA takes away most of the earnings. Do you think that Morocco wasn't aware of it? Did FIFA push them to bid?

Re: Canada, no they don't have the facility to host WC. Yes, they can co-host few matches. And they aren't as bad as Bangladesh or smth in FIFA ranking neither as good as USA. However, soccer (not basketball, not hockey or baseball) is the most played sports in Canada. Every kid in school play soccer. Hence, I said, it's good thing for Canada.

No FIFA didn't push them, but the people behind Morocco's bid - its government and its football governming body - all of whom are incentivized to think short term. A successful bid would do wonders for their career, at a severe cost to the nation.

Yes, all nations incur financial losses hosting, but some incur less. The cost for Canada, US, and Mexico is in the hundreds of millions range. For Morroco, it would be over 20 Billion. BIG difference.

Re: Canada. They actually do. They are hosting only 10 games across 3 stadiums. FIFA requires stadiums to host 40,000 minimum. I believe 2 of them can already host 60k+, and only one would need an upgrade. Much cheaper than Morocco literally building new stadiums.

Also, what you said doesn't change the fact that Canada still doesn't deserve to play based on merit. Even when it will expand to 48 teams, I doubt Canada would get in on merit.

aklemalp
July 22, 2018, 08:27 PM
Mesut Ozil retires from Germany citing racism after tensions over Turkish roots

Germany's Mesut Ozil announced his retirement from international football Sunday at the age of 29, citing racism and lashing out at the president of the German football federation.

The Arsenal midfielder will not add to his 92 caps, 23 goals and 40 assists for his country following political tensions regarding his Turkish roots and being dropped from the starting XI during this summer's World Cup as the defending champions crashed out in the group stage.

This is a very ugly situation.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/germany/story/3571587/mesut-ozil-retires-from-germany-after-political-tensions-over-turkish-roots

aklemalp
July 24, 2018, 10:36 AM
2018 International Champions Cup

Juventus plays Bayern Munich tomorrow in Philadelphia.

No mention of Ronaldo in the lineup?

aklemalp
July 24, 2018, 10:53 AM
UEFA 2nd Qualifying round 1st leg also going on today

Greek team POAK Salonika takes on Swiss FC Basel

In just under 2 hours time.
In no way are these teams 'powerhouses'. The first time I'm learning about these two teams.

There are more games on today

Currently, Astana and Midtjlland are tied 1-1 in the final minutes

aklemalp
July 24, 2018, 10:54 AM
And goalll..stoppage time goal for Astana, by László Kleinheisler...

and it's all over

Astana wins 2-1

aklemalp
July 24, 2018, 10:59 AM
Next game up is:

CFR Cluj versus Malmo FF

Starting in less than 2 minutes time

tonmoy.dhaka
July 25, 2018, 12:12 PM
UEFA 2nd Qualifying round 1st leg also going on today

Greek team POAK Salonika takes on Swiss FC Basel

In just under 2 hours time.
In no way are these teams 'powerhouses'. The first time I'm learning about these two teams.

There are more games on today

Currently, Astana and Midtjlland are tied 1-1 in the final minutes


I thought I was the biggest soccer fan inside this cricket forum, but you are few steps ahead of me... I dont remember ever following the qualification round for Champions league involving teams from Sweden Switzerland etc :up:
Kudos bro.. keep it up..
Want Basel to do well, both Shaqiri and Salah (LFC wingers) are products of Basel

aklemalp
July 25, 2018, 12:22 PM
I thought I was the biggest soccer fan inside this cricket forum, but you are few steps ahead of me... I dont remember ever following the qualification round for Champions league involving teams from Sweden Switzerland etc :up:
Kudos bro.. keep it up..
Want Basel to do well, both Shaqiri and Salah (LFC wingers) are products of Basel

The WC came and left, and left me wanting more...So I decided to start somewhere. Bit disappointed though that we are not having more football conversations in this thread.

tonmoy.dhaka
July 25, 2018, 01:17 PM
The WC came and left, and left me wanting more...So I decided to start somewhere. Bit disappointed though that we are not having more football conversations in this thread.

I am not a fan of international football (I actually really hate it). Unlike many here, I am glad that world cup is over and now club football is about to start. Liverpool is my favorite team and they are playing a pre season friendly tonight in USA against Manchester city (8pm Canadian time).
Manchester United is also playing a pre season game against AC Milan today. Would be an interesting night (11 pm ).

aklemalp
August 18, 2018, 01:29 PM
Fantastic game.

Arsenal v Chelsea

aklemalp
August 25, 2018, 07:15 PM
What a goal from Dembele

Tausif
August 27, 2018, 05:36 PM
0-3 loss for ManU today, 2 losses so far. Mourinho sacking in the coming days at this rate. Or he will resign before that.

tonmoy.dhaka
August 29, 2018, 03:32 PM
As a liverpool fan I hope Mourinho is never sacked..:D

Roey Haque
August 29, 2018, 10:27 PM
^ It will be shocking if Liverpool manages to be consistent given their pedigree in recent years. Though, I do think Klopp is a tremendous coach!

Man Utd on the other hand compete with themselves only. Mourinho will be sacked if he can't get the 2nd spot after achieving it last season. That's how self critical Man Utd is. And all this talk about 2nd, because Man City is achieving some historical things recently, with their record season last year.

tonmoy.dhaka
August 30, 2018, 09:46 AM
^ It will be shocking if Liverpool manages to be consistent given their pedigree in recent years. Though, I do think Klopp is a tremendous coach!

Man Utd on the other hand compete with themselves only. Mourinho will be sacked if he can't get the 2nd spot after achieving it last season. That's how self critical Man Utd is. And all this talk about 2nd, because Man City is achieving some historical things recently, with their record season last year.

As long as Klopp is with the club, I can only see LFC improving every year. If you look at the team Klopp managed in his first game in charge of LFC and compare that with the team now, you will know how much Klopp has improved the team. He achieved this by only spending NET 109 million pounds in 2+ seasons.

I expect LFC to compete for CL this season. Atleti is the favorite in my opinion (not real , barca or bayern) and Juventus is the second favorite.

Tausif
August 30, 2018, 12:11 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dl3QHeHXoAIZDmB.jpg

tonmoy.dhaka
August 30, 2018, 12:20 PM
Mancity got the easiest group possible.

Barca got a tough group for a change

LFC and United will have a tough time to qualify from the group..

Tausif
August 31, 2018, 11:00 AM
Napoli have Ancelotti as their new coach who is known to be CL 'specialist'. Won't be surprised if his team knocks out PSG or Liverpool in group stages to advance.

Tausif
August 31, 2018, 11:01 AM
Here is Europa League groups for those interested.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dl7QDplWsAE_0ID.jpg

tonmoy.dhaka
August 31, 2018, 12:02 PM
Feel bad for Sporting Lisbon... absolute Shambles..
Hard to guess who wins Europa till we know all the teams that will be playing (3rd place teams from Champions league group)..
Chelsea has a good chance otherwise

Tausif
September 2, 2018, 10:46 PM
Yeah hard to guess without those teams but from the list I'd say Chelsea and Sevilla have a good chance.