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rana
May 26, 2004, 10:29 PM
I can say both are realy good bats men and good bowlers.but RANA has more experienceses then FAISAL.



[Edited on 27-5-2004 by rana]

Nasif
May 26, 2004, 10:41 PM
Faisal isn't a specialist bowler. Rana is bowler who happens to be a good batsman aswel.

abhs
May 26, 2004, 10:44 PM
WHO IS BATTER FAISAL OR RANA?
Originally posted by rana
I can say both are realy good bats men and good bowlers.but RANA has more experienceses then FAISAL.

None of them are BATTER. Why should they be batter, I mean 'a liquid mixture of flour and eggs with milk or water for cooking". (source: Oxford dictionary)

I am just joking.

As a batsman, Faisal may be considerd better. As an all-rounder, no doubt it is Rana.

According to Channel i morning news, the Chance for Faisal is more than Rana, considering the pitch condition.



[Edited on 27-5-2004 by abhs]

Carte Blanche
May 26, 2004, 10:53 PM
I think it's not fair to compare them. They are both relatively new, although Rana has a bit of experience under his belt. However, he is yet to be a match-winner (as if we have any). Faisal is an exciting batsman who happens to be capable of scoring at a fast pace, a quality our batters (abhs :P) lack bigtime. Rana is more of a utility player. He has the opportunity of contributing in more than 1 way. If he flops with the bat, he can still make up for it with the cherry. They both are exciting prospects for us. We haven't seen enough of Faisal yet. Let's see how he fares in near future. May be then we will have more facts to compare our judgements against.

Rubu
May 26, 2004, 11:50 PM
i think its ok to comare them. well, there are not much similarities between them except this:

they are the two best player of the team right now. so, if u try to see who is the best player of team, u've to compare these two.

Ahmed_B
May 27, 2004, 01:06 AM
Remins me of the School maths.. comparison between 4 cows and 12 goates... which one is better?? :D:D

trying to compare between two very different player:

Faisal: Left arm specialist batsman only
Rana: Basic Spinner.. happnes to bat also(he scores..but doesnt hav a convincing style of batting really).. so allrounder.

Hasib
May 27, 2004, 01:21 AM
Ok... a better version of this question is... if u had to pick one for the team, which one will u choose? personally i dunno... coz i know nothing about Faisal

Kana-Baba
May 27, 2004, 07:27 AM
It seems that Hasibul is suffering from some sortís of paranoiaÖ. Same post in different thread!

Anyway, letís pray for him (instead of BD).
Letís have a special Zikir Mahfil for him.
Please donít forget to join... :)

Shobai bolen...

Allahu Allahu AllahuÖ.. (101 time)
:D

capslock
May 27, 2004, 07:48 AM
Faisal has a chance to be the Rajin of this series.

abhs
May 27, 2004, 08:49 AM
Since the pitch is going to be a batting one, the team management decided to use six batsmen and therfore, Faisal will have his debut in the 1st test.

Bad luck for Rana.

feisal
May 27, 2004, 09:26 AM
no team plays with one five specialist batman..aussies have seven (if u consider Gilchrist)..so under the circumstances Faisal is a better choice. May be Rana could have been considered over Mushfique. But latter's contribution is last few tests have been very good.

oracle
May 27, 2004, 09:31 AM
This could be a great blunder, i.e not playing Rana. The st. Lucia pitch is'nt always a batting pitch. It has provided some aid to spinners too. This was the chance to play Enamul too. I guess they are worried about our batting line up, more than the bowling.

Beamer
May 27, 2004, 09:43 AM
welcome feisal!
hey optimist and bd_cricket..look who is here!

feisal
May 27, 2004, 09:47 AM
dear Oracle,

u are probably right, but i am raising even a more basic issue of having 6 specialist batman.

AsifTheManRahman
May 27, 2004, 09:55 AM
There's no point in comparing their bowling abilities since Faisal is not a bowler. However, it's too early to jump to any conclusions as to who is the better batsman.

Optimist
May 27, 2004, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by feisal
no team plays with one five specialist batman..aussies have seven (if u consider Gilchrist)..so under the circumstances Faisal is a better choice. May be Rana could have been considered over Mushfique. But latter's contribution is last few tests have been very good.
What about England? Hoggard, Jones, Harmison, Giles, Flintoff? Bangladesh can play five batsmen I guess. Mushfique and Rana both deserve a place in the team. Faisal (not feisal) can wait little bit longer. I wish I can replace our non-performing openers! But it's not going to happen.

Optimist
May 27, 2004, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Beamer
welcome feisal!
hey optimist and bd_cricket..look who is here!
He was afraid to pick a nick name!!

abhs
May 27, 2004, 10:08 AM
Faisal can bowl.
He bowled even in the 3 day prcatice match against WICB X1.

He bowled as the 5th bowler in the 1st innings.

Bowling O M R W

Faisal Hossain 5 0 24 0

Here is the scorecard (http://www.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004/BDESH_IN_WI/SCORECARDS/BDESH_WI-BOARD-XI_22-24MAY2004.html)


[Edited on 27-5-2004 by abhs]

Beamer
May 27, 2004, 10:16 AM
thats a real shame optimist. he has so many nick names..yet...

Rubu
May 27, 2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by abhs
Since the pitch is going to be a batting one, the team management decided to use six batsmen and therfore, Faisal will have his debut in the 1st test.

Bad luck for Rana.

the question is, is there ANY batsmen in the squad right now who is better than rana? Since he started playing, he is the most consistant batsmen. and, since he is in the team from zim tour, he scored the highest runs for any bd batsman. if its a batting pitch, he should be there as the number one batsman, and if its a bowling pitch, he should be there as number 2 bowler (leave rafique).

feisal
May 27, 2004, 02:59 PM
my dear optimist,

we're getting away from the main point, but I could not resist making some points: when u have a genuine allrounder (who is like a batsman) u still have six batsman.. in eighties..most all-rounders played at six. India had shastri at 6, kapil at 7, Pakistan even had ejaj at 7, imran at 6. Both the waughs played at number Waughand this Jone guy is not a bad batsman at all and has a first class average over 40, you can also look at the Alec Stewert era for England..he also played at six.

I think we should not follow bad example. What is the point here: you play five batsman, and five bowlers??? Can you afford that without a genuine allrounder or a wicket keeper batsman??

further, on using bad example, I thought NOT using a nick name is a good example, but u think one needs courage to do that, i.e, to use a nickname.. u see, how bad example is hailed, good example is not?

one thing, i agree though this faisal guy can wait... but if he plays and misses out u have to give him another chance... so he will be in for another test as well...by the way, if Rana, afterall plays, we have the same team (the one played against Zim).. just Tareque for Monjurul. It looks thin.

Another point, no one in the recent history was in the shoes of our openers....they play in both test, happens whatever may... if Golla has four bad innings..who knows carrer can be over!!!

basiclly: if top order can do the job then it will NOT matter who is batting at six and seven..

feisal
May 27, 2004, 03:04 PM
prothom-alo te dekhlam it has been decided that we would play six batman... a
nd it is looking like a real windies pitch.


will be test of character!!! fortune favours the brave...

pagol-chagol
May 27, 2004, 03:17 PM
who cares.

They are both better(!) than Golla, Mushfiq or Tareq Aziz at this time.

Rubu
May 27, 2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
who cares.

They are both better(!) than Golla, Mushfiq or Tareq Aziz at this time.

they are both better than golla mushfiq tareq, alamgir, suman, rajin, ash.. ok may be not ash.

Optimist
May 27, 2004, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by feisal
my dear optimist,

I think we should not follow bad example. What is the point here: you play five batsman, and five bowlers??? Can you afford that without a genuine allrounder or a wicket keeper batsman??


What are you talking about? Considering the standard of our batsmen -- Mushfique and Rana are batting alrounders!!

crazyisland
May 27, 2004, 03:38 PM
Faisal will turn out to be another Rajin.

Rubu
May 27, 2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by crazyisland
Faisal will turn out to be another Rajin.

whats u mean? shine in one series and then goes away? like any other stars of bangladesh cricket?

SS
May 27, 2004, 05:19 PM
that i am not sure...i guess both are good
but they are better than Kapali, Bashar, Golla,Hannan etc.

Hasib
May 28, 2004, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by Kana-Baba
It seems that Hasibul is suffering from some sortís of paranoiaÖ. Same post in different thread!

:D

U talkn about me?!!! coz if u r... i'm not Hasibul and i havn't talked about this elsewhere...

mahbubH
May 28, 2004, 03:26 AM
I think like some other BD players Faisal will do well in this series because it is his first!

Rana performed at his best during last couple of series but if you want to choose (among Rana and Faisal) one as a batsman only I think Faisal (given his form in last year with the bat) is better option.

The team of 1st test has 3 bowlers (Taposh, Tareq, Rafique) and 1 allrounder (Musfiq). Usually teams select at least 4 bowlers and a alrounder for a test. So we are already 1 bowler sort and if we choose Rana for Faisal our batting will be weak (assuming Faisal is better batsman than Rana) but we will get little improvement in bowling.

Another option Rana for Musfiq. They are similar type of player and fit the allrounder slot of the team. I think Musfiq got the nod because the pitch suits pace more than spin!

Team management can go either way: try best to get 20 WI wickets (means have a team with 4 bowlers and 1 allrounder) or fight as long as we can do (more batsmen or batting allrounders). Team selection shows they are going for second option and you cannot blame them after the performance of our top order had in this series so far.

[Edited on 28-5-2004 by sports_fan_bd]

IanW
May 28, 2004, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by sports_fan_bd
Team management can go either way: try best to get 40 WI wickets (means have a team with 4 bowlers and 1 allrounder) or fight as long as we can do (more batsmen or batting allrounders). Team selection shows they are going for second option and you cannot blame them after the performance of our top order had in this series so far.

You try to win. Always.

One way or another, this match isnt going to be a draw. Bangladesh are going to need variety in their attack, if they are going to take advantage of the West Indies' talent for self destruction.

And, frankly, if 5 batsmen and a keeper who can bat a bit cant get the runs, then 6 wont.

mahbubH
May 28, 2004, 04:23 AM
You try to win. Always.

One way or another, this match isnt going to be a draw. Bangladesh are going to need variety in their attack, if they are going to take advantage of the West Indies' talent for self destruction.

And, frankly, if 5 batsmen and a keeper who can bat a bit cant get the runs, then 6 wont. [/quote]

u r right.. test will not draw without the help of the important palyer of the game (rain). How many overs we need to bowl WI out in the first innings? is the main concern. if it is <=100 our 3.5 bowlers will be ok but if it is >=150 overs, we will be in trouble with this selected team.

Lets hope for a 3 and half day test and WI will not score more than 300 in the first innings....

rana
May 28, 2004, 11:38 PM
so finaly FAISAL faild in this match