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Shadow
July 23, 2018, 10:44 AM
The Itinerary of the Ireland tour of Bangladesh A team has been announced.


01 August 2018 1st One-day Match Oak Hill CC, Co. Wicklow 3:45pm

03 August 2018 2nd One-day Match Oak Hill CC, Co. Wicklow 3:45pm

05 August 2018 3rd One-day Match Oak Hill CC, Co. Wicklow 3:45pm

08 August 2018 4th One-Day Match The Hills CC, Dublin 3:45pm

10 August 2018 5th One-Day Match Clontarf CC, Dublin 3:45pm

13 August 2018 1st T20 Match Clontarf CC, Dublin 9pm

15 August 2018 2nd T20 Match Clontarf CC, Dublin 9pm

17 August 2018 3rd T20 Match Malahide CC, Dublin 9pm

Bangladesh A team:

Mominul Haque (ODI Captain),Soumya Sarkar (ODI Vice captain, T-Twenty captain), Najmul Hossain Shanto, Fazle Mahmud, Afif Hossain, Khaled Ahmed, Shoriful Islam, Al Amin, Zakir Hasan, Naeem Hasan, Sunzamul Islam, Nurul Hasan, Saifuddin, Mizanur Rahman, Saif Hasan, Taskin Ahmed.

<a href="https://www.thedailystar.net/sports/bangladesh-cricket/mominul-haque-soumya-sarkar-captains-teams-ireland-tour-1609795">source</a>

al Furqaan
July 23, 2018, 11:22 AM
Mishu should have been there. He didn' t get a single game vs SL A either despite being on the standby list for Windies tour. what the heck is going on with him?

al Furqaan
July 23, 2018, 11:23 AM
And we need a wrist spinner! every other team will have one at the world cup.

adamnsu
July 23, 2018, 11:27 AM
No more holidays for Shafiul.

One World
July 23, 2018, 12:27 PM
The selection above tells you there is not really any vision from BCB in practice with our bench.

The Mominul that is tagged as a test specialist now will captain an ODI series away.

For Irish condition, Zahurul, Ash, Nayeem, Tushar all could be considered based on their experience.

Also Nafis could be considered for his ability to trouble associates.

Why Tasking for T20s? What has he done phenomenal in BPL compared to Abul?

Where is Ariful!?

:down:

al Furqaan
July 23, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jahirul, Ash, Naeem are all 2010. Outdated. Tushar is even worse, 2005 era player.

Mominul, Shanto, Shorif are all good picks. Ideally Shanto should play in this ODI series vs WI.

zura
July 23, 2018, 02:18 PM
What did Taskin do to get a chance in the List A game over the likes of Qazi Onik, Robiul Haque who had very impressive domestic form?

Oh and List A teams should only have players who are deemed having a chance for the national team. No one cares about the results but rather use it as a platform to improve oneself and showcase themselves for the national team. So, Ashraful, Tushar, Nafees shouldn't get a chance.

Gowza
July 23, 2018, 04:40 PM
Yeah shanto should play the WI ODI series, agree with that. Also agree Mishu should be there but at least shoriful is getting consistent A games and experience at a higher level than domestic, he should be ready to move to the senior team sooner if they keep doing this, I just hope they properly workout which formats are for him and which aren’t.

Eshen
July 23, 2018, 09:20 PM
Excited to see Momin, Soumya, and Shanto in the team. I hope those three will use this tour to stake claims for slots in the ODI team for WC'19.

I sincerely hope Taskin has sufficiently recovered from his back injury for this tour.

al Furqaan
July 23, 2018, 10:18 PM
Excited to see Momin, Soumya, and Shanto in the team. I hope those three will use this tour to stake claims for slots in the ODI team for WC'19.

I sincerely hope Taskin has sufficiently recovered from his back injury for this tour.

Shanto should be in the ODI senior team. And given a long run. In case he doesn't pan out, the A team should used to figure out who Shanto's replacement should be as a last minute WC19 squad member. Whether Momin, Soumya, Sabbir, or someone else.

But I think Shanto is too good to struggle especially given we play a lot of games against weak sides (5 more vs WI, 1 vs an Associate, 3 vs ZIM, 2 vs AFG, 4 vs IRE). In fact, we only play 3 ODIs against a good team (in NZ) before the WC. Which is good. 2006 we played minnows and had a good WC in 07. 2014 we blasted ZIM and then had a good 2015 WC.

We need the confidence.

Donal C
July 24, 2018, 11:49 AM
Ireland squad announced

Andrew Balbirnie (capt) (Pembroke), Peter Chase (Malahide), David Delany (Clontarf), George Dockrell (Leinster), JJ Garth (Pembroke), Shane Getkate (Instonians), Tyrone Kane (Merrion), Graham Kennedy (Ballyspallen), Andrew McBrine (Donemana), Barry McCarthy, (Durham), James McCollum (Waringstown), James Shannon (Instonians), Simi Singh (YMCA), Harry Tector (YMCA), Stuart Thompson (Eglinton), Lorcan Tucker (Pembroke)

Very excited for this series, has been a glorious summer here in Ireland so far (went over a month with no rain which is virtually unheard of) so hoping the weather can allow most of these matches to go ahead without issue. A very young bowling line up which I am very excited to see because it definitely has talent if a bit raw. Garth is only 16 IIRC and a leg spinner, Delany 19 and can clock nearly 90mph (radar still needs tuning though). McCollum coming off of a very impressive domestic season and winter down in Grade Cricket in Australia.

Cant wait tbh! Dont expect BD A to lose any games because you seem to have selected a very strong team but individual performances are what I'll be looking for.

bujhee kom
July 24, 2018, 05:25 PM
Ireland is a very good cricket team. I hope to see some good cricket between these two teams. It's all about enjoying the game and being a good athlete and a sportsman.

cricket_king
July 24, 2018, 07:28 PM
Looking forward to this series. A chance for some of the young guys to get used to European conditions. I expect a competitive series as we are typically woeful in this conditions.

One World
July 25, 2018, 09:02 AM
You do not use A team for developing players or as an High Performance squad. You use your A squad as a backup for national team.

Look at this below link for one of our successful campaign against sub-continental A teams. Notice the structure of A teams of different opponents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994%E2%80%9395_SAARC_Quadrangular

roman
July 25, 2018, 03:53 PM
http://www.kalerkantho.com/print-edition/sports/2018/07/26/662154

ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ সিরিজে ওয়ানডে আর টি-টোয়েন্টি থেকে বাদ পড়ার পর ক্রিকেটের সঙ্গে থাকার জন্য বাঁহাতি ওপেনারকে ‘এ’ দলের হয়ে আয়ারল্যান্ডে পাঠাতে চেয়েছিলেন নির্বাচকরা; কিন্তু সন্তানসম্ভাবনা স্ত্রীর পাশে থাকার জন্য ওই সফর থেকে ছুটি চেয়ে নেন ইমরুল। তাতেও কোনো সমস্যা ছিল না, যদি তিনি দেশে ফেরার পথে ‘স্ট্যাচু অব লিবার্টি’ দেখার নামে নিউ ইয়র্কে ঘোরাঘুরি না করে স্ত্রীর কাছে ছুটে যেতেন। বিষয়টি ভালোভাবে নেয়নি কেউই, নেওয়ার কথাও নয়।

I love you Bhimrul..You made things easier for the selectors not to include you in the team anymore

Gowza
July 25, 2018, 04:50 PM
You do not use A team for developing players or as an High Performance squad. You use your A squad as a backup for national team.

Look at this below link for one of our successful campaign against sub-continental A teams. Notice the structure of A teams of different opponents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994%E2%80%9395_SAARC_Quadrangular

Players should be improving no matter the level so the word development should be relevant at all levels imo.

The job of the A team should primarily be to get the next in line players ready for international cricket, that means get them playing in conditions that are outside of home and against better quality opposition than they are used to so they are learning to play in different conditions and also getting a look at better competition to have a even better idea of where they are at and how they need to improve. Especially for BD because the domestic quality is so far different to international cricket, it doesn’t make sense to not use it to help develop players.

Even in the national team players work on parts of their game.

Of course ideally A team players should be ready for international cricket but tbh that’s not a realistic approach (even for top teams). Each player is different, some get fast tracked, some don’t. A player like Prithvi Shaw, getting fast tracked and doing great, some can’t manage that so they have to have a different path and different approach.

Gowza
July 29, 2018, 08:27 AM
Anyone think they could’ve sent towhid? Done really well so far in list A’s, got a ton in u19 WC. Why the heck is fazle mahmud in the squad?

One World
July 29, 2018, 10:38 AM
Anyone think they could’ve sent towhid? Done really well so far in list A’s, got a ton in u19 WC. Why the heck is fazle mahmud in the squad?

Fazle is a great inclusion, top run getter in domestics

ToBeFair
July 29, 2018, 11:07 AM
I have no idea how Jahurul is doing these days, but the guy did very well in whatever opportunities he got.

Too bad he was suddenly overlooked despite performing like Syed Rasel.

I still believe had Jamie Siddons didn't ditch Rasel for his own personal disliking, Syed Rasel would still be a fabulous ODI and T20I containing bowler.

And Jahurul could have been groomed to be a good no 4.

zura
July 29, 2018, 12:18 PM
Fazle is a great inclusion, top run getter in domestics

He is too old to get an ODI debut. Our domestic players mostly need some time to get used to international cricket and giving someone who is over 30 his debut at that age isn't a good idea.

anon4567
July 29, 2018, 07:31 PM
Jahirul, Ash, Naeem are all 2010. Outdated. Tushar is even worse, 2005 era player.


Exactly. Those players are unlikely to even make the national team again in their career. What's the point playing them at all.

Instead would be more important playing young players who have a chance of making the national side (esp. for the CWC 2019 and beyond), to test their skills on similar conditions to the World Cup.

Gowza
July 29, 2018, 07:47 PM
If you organise lots of A tours and pick lots of young players then those young players will be better prepared once they hit the national team.

One World
July 29, 2018, 07:55 PM
You cannot just come in and put the “outdated” tag on some players.

Think rationally. Which age group is performing well in matches? Is that experience only? No. I believe this particular batch had the proper training and learning methods which let this particular generation of cricketers keep contributing so late in the career.

The next generation simply lacks the skillsets - their upbringing did not get proper methodology. Their technique insufficient, only shines in one areas. A lot of them came and faded away. Few of them sustained but only for specific formats, not much because of their performance more because we could not develop better replacement for that role.

What I think the Ash-Shakib generation (since 2007 WC) is the best we could get, the most capable generation. We still have time to utilize this crop of players and gain something internationally.

Once they are gone I have really little hope to be able to gain anything after 5 years from now once they start to retire fully.

Gowza
July 29, 2018, 08:41 PM
You cannot just come in and put the “outdated” tag on some players.

Think rationally. Which age group is performing well in matches? Is that experience only? No. I believe this particular batch had the proper training and learning methods which let this particular generation of cricketers keep contributing so late in the career.

The next generation simply lacks the skillsets - their upbringing did not get proper methodology. Their technique insufficient, only shines in one areas. A lot of them came and faded away. Few of them sustained but only for specific formats, not much because of their performance more because we could not develop better replacement for that role.

What I think the Ash-Shakib generation (since 2007 WC) is the best we could get, the most capable generation. We still have time to utilize this crop of players and gain something internationally.

Once they are gone I have really little hope to be able to gain anything after 5 years from now once they start to retire fully.

What you say about the future could become a very real thing if BCB don’t find a group of youngsters to fill the gaps that will be left, and let’s be honest there are plenty of other gaps/issues to fix up aside from filling the void which will be left when shakib, tamim and mushy retire.

My hope lies in the current age group 18-22, the problem with the crop that are about mid 20s now is that even if they have not reached the big 3 level yet then they should’ve shown something significant even if it’s a bit inconsistently but they haven’t really got anything to show for their opportunities.

I posted recently how between them (liton, sabbir and soumya) they’ve got 30 or 31 tests and there is not even one century in there and barely any half centuries.

Just to compare mominul has played a handful of less innings but has 6 tons and 12 half centuries, the 3 of these together have 11 half centuries and 0 centuries between them.

Shows how much of a keeper mominul is.

Donal C
July 31, 2018, 02:13 PM
If the Irish weather service are correct the second innings tomorrow will be rain interrupted, first innings should be fine though and should get a result in.

Cant wait for these games. With the senior side aging I'd almost say I look forward to A team fixtures more as gives an idea to the future. Expecting BD A to win this series easy enough though tbh.

cricket_king
July 31, 2018, 04:58 PM
If the Irish weather service are correct the second innings tomorrow will be rain interrupted, first innings should be fine though and should get a result in.

Cant wait for these games. With the senior side aging I'd almost say I look forward to A team fixtures more as gives an idea to the future. Expecting BD A to win this series easy enough though tbh.

If your pacers can move the ball either through the air or off the pitch, we will roll over and die without the slightest resistance, don't worry.

aklemalp
July 31, 2018, 04:59 PM
Hoping Saif Hassan dominates...

Gowza
July 31, 2018, 06:36 PM
Hoping Saif Hassan dominates...

Might be tough for him to get a chance with all the openers and make shift openers in this squad. Mominul, zakir, shanto and fazle have all had a try as opener at some point in their careers.

Actually looks a pretty decent squad, I especially hope shanto and zakir have good tours with the bat and hope shoriful does well with the ball. Would also like to see afif do well. Obviously want them all to have a good tour but those ones even more so.

Khaled ahmed is an interesting prospect, given his age he’s kind of come out of nowhere so I’ll be watching his performances.

Shadow
August 1, 2018, 10:47 AM
First match abandoned due to rain.

al Furqaan
August 1, 2018, 11:56 AM
Given Irish weather this series might be a 0-0 draw. So yet again our A team will get little to no actual match exposure.

Why can't the A team arrange tours of West Indies or NZ or matches against County sides?

Donal C
August 1, 2018, 03:55 PM
Given Irish weather this series might be a 0-0 draw. So yet again our A team will get little to no actual match exposure.

Why can't the A team arrange tours of West Indies or NZ or matches against County sides?

Lay off the cliches. This has been the best summer in recorded history. Literally just had forty days of drought. FORTY. For Ireland thats unheard of. Forecast for last 3 ODI's is good and the t20's, second game is a tad dicey but tbh I reckon if other games get washed out they'll reschedule or rearrange matches to ensure the tour is worthwhile.

Dont get people complaining about weather. It is what it is why the constant whinging....

al Furqaan
August 1, 2018, 04:54 PM
Lay off the cliches. This has been the best summer in recorded history. Literally just had forty days of drought. FORTY. For Ireland thats unheard of. Forecast for last 3 ODI's is good and the t20's, second game is a tad dicey but tbh I reckon if other games get washed out they'll reschedule or rearrange matches to ensure the tour is worthwhile.

Dont get people complaining about weather. It is what it is why the constant whinging....

Its just frustrating and all too common. I doubt if even 25% of games see the full overs bowled.

I hope the forecast eases up.

Donal C
August 1, 2018, 06:17 PM
Its just frustrating and all too common. I doubt if even 25% of games see the full overs bowled.

I hope the forecast eases up.

Tim Wigmore researched this before.

75% of matches in Ireland get results and all or nearly all overs in. Reason it seems worse is because we previously only ever got one off or two ODI series so obviously it takes one bad rain shower to wipe out the entire series. Now with longer series more spaced out over the country the chances of this happening, while still existing, are much lower.

Scotland has a 40% wash out rate or something mad like that.

2016 series vs Afghanistan 4 out of 5 ODI's played to completion. Earlier that summer 1 out of the 4 ODI'S we had vs SL and Pakistan were washed out, other 3 no issues.

Last year we had the tri series with yourselves and Bangladesh, that had 6 ODI's total, only 1 was washed out, the first one between ourselves. Rest all got results. WI ODI was a wash out, however even that game should have gone ahead no problems, reason it didnt was due to subpar drainage failing to clear out previous days rain, the matche itself had sunny weather but couldnt proceed.

Test match went by successfully, two t20's vs India had glorious sunshine. Couldve had 3 tours during this summer from May to July and not a day would've been lost (which is quite rare ill be honest but it can happen).

I wont lie and claim it cant wreak havoc, but asians exaggerate this issue tremendously and its annoying. "OMG why host cricket here" "Why pick rainy venue" and other nonsense posts. Do you really think cricket would survive here if 25% of domestic matches even got full overs in? Come on see how ridiculous that sounds.

Its an issue, its frustrating of course, but we get on with it. Sunny weather expected all weekend (Friday is more mixed) and next week has clear skies forecasted.

Shadow
August 1, 2018, 10:23 PM
No one has any control over the weather. It can't be helped.

Yankees
August 1, 2018, 11:08 PM
Tim Wigmore researched this before.

Scotland has a 40% wash out rate or something mad like that.



That is quite shocking. Source?

al Furqaan
August 1, 2018, 11:54 PM
I wont lie and claim it cant wreak havoc, but asians exaggerate this issue tremendously and its annoying. "OMG why host cricket here" "Why pick rainy venue" and other nonsense posts. Do you really think cricket would survive here if 25% of domestic matches even got full overs in? Come on see how ridiculous that sounds.

I

Is it really an Asian thing? Haha.

Donnie, I apologize. You know I love you and Ireland.

Gowza
August 2, 2018, 02:45 AM
I’m sure we’ll get some matches in. with the state of the national team we need some from this crop to have a good tour here to put pressure on the national team players.

Krishna
August 2, 2018, 08:38 AM
Playing against Ireland A is a waste of time. Its level is still not much better than other top associate teams.

bujhee kom
August 2, 2018, 12:30 PM
Any updates on these IRE/BD A team matches?
Is cricinfo not covering them at all?? I am not finding any source for the result updates etc.!

Donal C
August 2, 2018, 12:58 PM
Playing against Ireland A is a waste of time. Its level is still not much better than other top associate teams.

We toured BD last year and I seem to recall we nearly won 3 of the 6 matches, that too with some dubious umpiring. Hardly Associate standard. Plus we had a handy start during the last game before it was abandoned.

Any updates on these IRE/BD A team matches?
Is cricinfo not covering them at all?? I am not finding any source for the result updates etc.!

Cricinfo are covering them. Check CI's twitter too.

roman
August 2, 2018, 01:32 PM
Playing against Ireland A is a waste of time. Its level is still not much better than other top associate teams.

Any game is better than sitting home. At least we got a tour, and Ireland condition is challenging. So not a waste of time i think

al Furqaan
August 2, 2018, 01:42 PM
Playing against Ireland A is a waste of time. Its level is still not much better than other top associate teams.

Irish conditons will be good for our boys. But they need more tours to places like NZ or SA if not AUS or ENG. and from this tour they need List A matches that go at least 40 overs a side. 25 or 30 over games will just be a waste if it comes to that. There is a already a T20 component of the tour and no first class matches.

I’m hoping Shoriful steps up. We need quality quicks in the national team asap. Been stuck on Rubel and Shafiul for too long.

bujhee kom
August 2, 2018, 02:00 PM
...

Cricinfo are covering them. Check CI's twitter too.
Thank you, brother Donald. I will check cricnfo tonight. I am really excited about this tour!

bujhee kom
August 2, 2018, 02:02 PM
Any game is better than sitting home. At least we got a tour, and Ireland condition is challenging. So not a waste of time i think

Irish conditons will be good for our boys. But they need more tours to places like NZ or SA if not AUS or ENG. and from this tour they need List A matches that go at least 40 overs a side. 25 or 30 over games will just be a waste if it comes to that. There is a already a T20 component of the tour and no first class matches.

I’m hoping Shoriful steps up. We need quality quicks in the national team asap. Been stuck on Rubel and Shafiul for too long.

True. It is very good to tour Ireland and the seam condition/pitch there are great.
Also yes Al-Furqaan bhaiya, I agree - we need to play first class matches...4 day matches! Matches that allow the batting team to play and sustain long innings (whether our team gets bowled out in 10 overs or not).

Gowza
August 3, 2018, 06:42 AM
BD A currently 0/136. Zakir 81, saif 35. Zakir going at 100+ strike rate, saif going at 50...24 overs bowled.

Gowza
August 3, 2018, 06:45 AM
Not sure why shanto is sitting out, taskin is also on the bench and so is afif.

Gowza
August 3, 2018, 06:54 AM
Saif out for 37, Mominul in now

Gowza
August 3, 2018, 07:05 AM
Zakir on 92 striking at 100, Mominul on 4 striking at 26

Gowza
August 3, 2018, 07:08 AM
1/160, 30 overs

Gowza
August 3, 2018, 07:20 AM
Zakir missed his century, out for 92, mithun out for a duck. Mominul on 14, al Amin on 4. 3/174

zura
August 3, 2018, 07:27 AM
Score update: http://www.mycricket.ie/common/pages/public/rv/match.aspx?matchID=5375539&entityID=120000

Shadow
August 3, 2018, 07:34 AM
Shanto should have played the match instead of Mithun.

Shadow
August 3, 2018, 07:37 AM
Looks like Saif still struggles with his strike rate.

Gowza
August 3, 2018, 07:39 AM
Mominul out for 23

Gowza
August 3, 2018, 07:52 AM
4/215, al Amin on 28

ToBeFair
August 3, 2018, 08:34 AM
I was looking for Mominul's name in the scorecard, and after a while it realized it was "M Showrab".

Shadow
August 3, 2018, 08:40 AM
Bangladesh A 289/6 from 50 overs.

Rifat
August 3, 2018, 08:48 AM
I think Zakir Hasan is a decent candidate for #7 in ODI's. Sabbir Rahman is no longer cut out for it.

Tausif
August 3, 2018, 09:02 AM
Al Amin Jr looks like a decent bat. Has decent List A stats too. Might be worth keeping an eye on.

Shadow
August 3, 2018, 09:04 AM
I think Zakir Hasan is a decent candidate for #7 in ODI's. Sabbir Rahman is no longer cut out for it.

He is a decent candidate to open in the T20Is. It was unfair to drop him after just one match.

zura
August 3, 2018, 10:02 AM
Ireland A: 40/3 after 11 overs Khaled Ahmed takes 2 and Sunzamul takes 1.

aklemalp
August 3, 2018, 10:24 AM
4th wicket down for Ire A

Score is 42

BD_TigerZ
August 3, 2018, 10:40 AM
He is a decent candidate to open in the T20Is. It was unfair to drop him after just one match.

Said it all along he should be in the T20 side. God knows why SS is in the side.. :facepalm:

Shadow
August 3, 2018, 12:28 PM
Why didn't they take a specialist wrist spinner when part time leg break bowler like Fazle bowls 7 overs ?

Shadow
August 3, 2018, 12:46 PM
CI wolves 202 all out.

al Furqaan
August 3, 2018, 02:23 PM
Shariful with 3/40. Need this guy, Ebadat and Mishu in the national team.

mufi_02
August 3, 2018, 02:28 PM
S Ahmed, S Islam, SI Islam, S Uddin - 2 / 2 / 3 / 2 wickets each.

who are all these S?

zura
August 3, 2018, 02:53 PM
Scorecard: https://www.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket-scorecard/20725/irea-vs-bana-2nd-unofficial-odi-bangladesh-a-tour-of-ireland-2018

Young Shoriful is doing quite well with the A team.

Gowza
August 3, 2018, 04:42 PM
Well that was a good outing. Zakir and shoriful showing some good stuff. Actually all bowlers did pretty well. Al Amin jr has always been one to watch, has decent FC stats to.

fush_montor
August 3, 2018, 06:16 PM
Khaled Ahmed was more impressive than shariful...specially with his first spell...only 1 of shariful’s wicket was a top order batsman

BengaliPagol
August 3, 2018, 09:34 PM
if for one moment anyone says Mominul should be in the odi side I will throw a chair at them.

Jadukor
August 3, 2018, 09:54 PM
I want to see a video of Zakir Hasan's batting

BengaliPagol
August 4, 2018, 01:29 AM
I want to see a video of Zakir Hasan's batting

my friend trained with him in the nets. He raved on about how Zakir Hasan is very orthodox and has a good technique.

Gowza
August 4, 2018, 02:11 AM
This is the only decent footage I’ve been able to find of zakir

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ESOwiuE6g

Jadukor
August 4, 2018, 05:01 AM
my friend trained with him in the nets. He raved on about how Zakir Hasan is very orthodox and has a good technique.

This is the only decent footage I’ve been able to find of zakir

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ESOwiuE6g
Looks like a very well organized left handed batsman capable of big shots. If he is scoring in Ireland it means he is not just a slow and low wicket bully. Hopefully we can take this guy to WC if he has a good tour of Ireland.

al Furqaan
August 4, 2018, 01:14 PM
Zakir is a consistent guy. I like him. But I'd like to see him get really big scores in NCL/BCL as well.

Thats why I think Mosaddek is a must the guy is only 22 but has 10 FC tons, including 3 double tons.

Jadukor
August 4, 2018, 09:28 PM
Zakir is a consistent guy. I like him. But I'd like to see him get really big scores in NCL/BCL as well.

Thats why I think Mosaddek is a must the guy is only 22 but has 10 FC tons, including 3 double tons.
Yea if Mosaddek gets enough opportunities in tests he might become a very good player.

Gowza
August 4, 2018, 11:51 PM
Zakir hasn’t been scoring like mosaddek in FC cricket or even liton but he has got 5 tons and 5 half tons in 29 matches (45 innings - same amount as mosa has played), top score of 211, pretty sure he had a rather mediocre beginning to his FC career so most of these runs probably came in his last 15 FC matches.

Zakir’s best format on stats is FC cricket, good to see him scoring runs overseas in the shorter formats.

Of batsmen not currently secure in the xi’s/squads I put zakir next after mosa and shanto, unless I’m forgetting someone.

Donal C
August 5, 2018, 05:36 AM
Livescoring

http://www.mycricket.ie/common/pages/public/rv/match.aspx?redirect=1&matchid=5375541&ofl=0&id=MATCH&entityid=120000

Ireland 44/2 atm

Shadow
August 5, 2018, 06:38 AM
I am not sure why Shanto is sitting out.

Donal C
August 5, 2018, 08:33 AM
Ireland 245 ao from 49.3 overs. Khaled 4-42 Thompson 69, McBrine 58

Donal C
August 5, 2018, 08:42 AM
PS - who is the Bengali captain lol, guy is about two feet shorter than the rest, kinda feel for him!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj1vbxeXoAAVNlG.jpg:large

Gowza
August 5, 2018, 08:45 AM
^that’d be mominul.

bujhee kom
August 5, 2018, 09:10 AM
IRE A has a good total on the board.

bujhee kom
August 5, 2018, 09:15 AM
Cricket IRE has a very detailed live score page, including fielding, catches by players etc.
Does it auto refresh itself or I have to refresh it, I have not gotten that.

WarWolf
August 5, 2018, 09:39 AM
Zakir out.

Mas_UK25
August 5, 2018, 10:23 AM
Man.. I don’t think I’d want my captain to be one of the smallest guy in world cricket. What does that say about you, your team? Ffs. Have some standards. No offence to mominul, but I pray he never becomes any sort BD loi captain. He is too shy, quiet dude anyway. Got to have some standards. Mushy was short and is but mushy has bigger biceps than most in the side. He is few inches taller than Mominul. Even then I felt awkward.

al Furqaan
August 5, 2018, 11:11 AM
Man.. I don’t think I’d want my captain to be one of the smallest guy in world cricket. What does that say about you, your team? Ffs. Have some standards. No offence to mominul, but I pray he never becomes any sort BD loi captain. He is too shy, quiet dude anyway. Got to have some standards. Mushy was short and is but mushy has bigger biceps than most in the side. He is few inches taller than Mominul. Even then I felt awkward.

Mushy and Momin are both 5'3". Mushy may be a hair taller but thats it.

WarWolf
August 5, 2018, 11:42 AM
BD A already 7 wickets down at 159.

zura
August 5, 2018, 11:50 AM
74 needed from 54 balls with 3 wickets in hand. If either of the current 2 get out, it's game over.

zura
August 5, 2018, 12:00 PM
52 from 36 with 3 wickets in hand.

bujhee kom
August 5, 2018, 12:06 PM
Game looks in favor of IRE A right now.

zura
August 5, 2018, 12:18 PM
Ireland won by 34 runs. Don't know why we select 30+ year old players who never played in the International stage.

bujhee kom
August 5, 2018, 12:27 PM
Congrats IRE A team!

Donal C
August 5, 2018, 02:32 PM
Playing against Ireland A is a waste of time. Its level is still not much better than other top associate teams.

:D

Talk nahhhh

al Furqaan
August 5, 2018, 02:52 PM
Mominul is not a one day player. He should be dominating at this level instead of scoring little 20s and 40s.

hoodlum
August 5, 2018, 04:06 PM
Saif hassan is so painfully slow. Is he the next Javed Omar?

cricket_king
August 5, 2018, 04:42 PM
Saif hassan is a guy you don't want in your lineup when chasing. He was poor in both his u19 world cups too. Really needs to improve his game.

tiger1000
August 6, 2018, 01:37 AM
Mushy and Momin are both 5'3". Mushy may be a hair taller but thats it.

Mominul is 5'3'' and Mushfiq is 5'4.5''

According to one commentator who asked I think he said the team physio or someone with the info within the team

I forget what game, but he was basically talking about the shortest players in the game, Taylor bavuma and our 2

But its not height its personality, Mushfiq looks short but not small

ToBeFair
August 6, 2018, 02:09 AM
Wolves ate BD-A.

Shadow
August 8, 2018, 06:13 AM
Bangladesh A 55/1. Mizanur, Taskin and Afif has been picked in the xi.

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 06:43 AM
Mominul scoring some runs at a very good clip, zakir still in there

ahnaf
August 8, 2018, 06:44 AM
Ban A -1/92.

Mominul - 58* (44)

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 06:45 AM
Looks like afif is in the side today, where is shanto? Can’t believe he hasn’t been playing these matches.

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 06:57 AM
Mominul already on 70

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 06:58 AM
1/111, this partnership is already more than 100 runs

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 07:07 AM
mominul so far scored 75-80% of his runs in boundaries.

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 07:10 AM
Mominul 86, strike rate 136

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 07:10 AM
And now on 91

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 07:14 AM
Partnership 147

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 07:17 AM
Partnership goes past 150

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 07:23 AM
Zakir got his 50, focus for the triple digit score. Mominul 98

Shadow
August 8, 2018, 07:25 AM
Mominul gets to 100.

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 07:26 AM
100 for mominul, will he make a c9meback into the one day squad? He is very boundary reliant...

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 07:32 AM
If mominul stays in he could get 200

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 07:46 AM
Partnership is now 202

BengaliPagol
August 8, 2018, 07:53 AM
link to scorecard?

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 07:55 AM
https://www.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket-scores/20727/irea-vs-bana-4th-unofficial-odi-bangladesh-a-tour-of-ireland-2018

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 07:58 AM
Bugger zakir out on 79. Mominul in and still scoring

zura
August 8, 2018, 08:29 AM
40 overs gone and Bangladesh A is 259/2 Mominul on 145 and Mithun on 20.

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 08:35 AM
Mominul has a new highest list A score

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 08:37 AM
Anyone know what is the BD record for highest list A score?

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 08:38 AM
Mominul on 171

DinRaat.
August 8, 2018, 08:39 AM
Anyone know what is the BD record for highest list A score?

190 by Raqibul

ahnaf
August 8, 2018, 08:40 AM
2/317.

Overs 44.0

ahnaf
August 8, 2018, 08:46 AM
Mominul run out on 182 (133).

Double was there for the taking.

Krishna
August 8, 2018, 09:01 AM
3/4 Players from the Ireland tour may get chance in the upcoming ODI WC. We are closely following..

- Minhazul Abedin Nannu

Mominul in place of Sarkar/Bijoy ?

zura
August 8, 2018, 09:02 AM
Momunul out on 185. Could have gotten 200 as there were 5 more over. But I guess he took making quicker runs as more of a priority.

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 09:06 AM
- Minhazul Abedin Nannu

Mominul in place of Sarkar/Bijoy ?

A few of them have done well including mominul, zakir, al Amin and mithun. Shanto should be the first to get a chance out of those who haven’t yet.

zura
August 8, 2018, 09:15 AM
Mominul had 1 good innings and needs to be a lot more consistent if he were to make it to the ODI side. Zakir played 2 good innings from the 3 we played and should be considered ahead of him.

zura
August 8, 2018, 09:18 AM
Bangladesh 385/4 after 50 overs

https://www.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket-scorecard/20727/irea-vs-bana-4th-unofficial-odi-bangladesh-a-tour-of-ireland-2018

One World
August 8, 2018, 09:32 AM
^Is that the highest ODI score ever by any BD team?

Those who are contemplating about selection based on this performance mind you that NZW scored 400+ in the same ground few days back. I doubt there was much cricket beforehand in this ground and suspect it is abnormally short boundaries.

Tigers_eye
August 8, 2018, 09:36 AM
Khepse. Ek tu deri hoiye gasey. Loss'er column'e already ek hoiye gasey.

Tigers_eye
August 8, 2018, 09:38 AM
^Is that the highest ODI score ever by any BD team?

Those who are contemplating about selection based on this performance mind you that NZW scored 400+ in the same ground few days back. I doubt there was much cricket beforehand in this ground and suspect it is abnormally short boundaries.
Our boys only hit 7 6's. That would be disappointing if the ground is truly small. At any rate, 184 should be the highest list a score by a BD player.

One World
August 8, 2018, 09:44 AM
This is probably the second Intl. match in this ground,

<div class="cb-col cb-col-200 cb-scrd-hdr-rw">Venue Scoring Pattern</div> <div class="cb-col cb-col-200 cb-col-rt"> <div class="cb-col cb-col-50 cb-mat-fct-itm text-bold">Avg 1st inn score: </div> <div class="cb-col cb-col-150 cb-mat-fct-itm">418</div> <div class="cb-col cb-col-27 cb-mat-fct-itm text-bold">Avg 2nd inn score:</div> <div class="cb-col cb-col-73 cb-mat-fct-itm">112</div> <div class="cb-col cb-col-27 cb-mat-fct-itm text-bold">Highest Total:</div> <div class="cb-col cb-col-73 cb-mat-fct-itm"> 418/10 (49.5 Ov) by NZW vs IREW </div> <div class="cb-col cb-col-27 cb-mat-fct-itm text-bold">Lowest Total:</div> <div class="cb-col cb-col-73 cb-mat-fct-itm"> 112/10 (35.3 Ov) by IREW vs NZW </div> <div class="cb-col cb-col-27 cb-mat-fct-itm text-bold">Lowest Defended:</div> <div class="cb-col cb-col-73 cb-mat-fct-itm"> 418/10 (49.5 Ov) by NZW vs IREW </div> </div></div><div class="cb-col cb-col-33 cb-col-rt"><div id="mpu" class="ad-unit cb-col cb-col-100" style="min-height:250px;"></div>

ahnaf
August 8, 2018, 11:37 AM
^Is that the highest ODI score ever by any BD team?

Those who are contemplating about selection based on this performance mind you that NZW scored 400+ in the same ground few days back. I doubt there was much cricket beforehand in this ground and suspect it is abnormally short boundaries.

NZW scored 400+ in all their matches of ODI series.

https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/2694/new-zealand-women-tour-of-ireland-2018/matches

One of them was here

https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/2694/new-zealand-women-tour-of-ireland-2018/venues/137/castle-avenue

Where avg. 1st & 2nd Inns scores is 203, 164.

Anyway, probably Donal can tell us more about the ground.

ahnaf
August 8, 2018, 11:44 AM
So far Taskin's bowling figure looks like this 3-30-0.

Most expensive among our bowlers.

One World
August 8, 2018, 12:04 PM
Irish A team has a Singh at number 5 :lol:

They are taking this repatriation cricket to a whole new level, I mean having in National Team is understandable but A team is a bit overwhelming right?

Shadow
August 8, 2018, 12:08 PM
Irish A team has a Singh at number 5 :lol:

They are taking this repatriation cricket to a whole new level, I mean having in National Team is understandable but A team is a bit overwhelming right?

You mean Simi SIngh. He actually plays for the National side.

Tigers_eye
August 8, 2018, 12:09 PM
So far Taskin's bowling figure looks like this 3-30-0.

Most expensive among our bowlers.
Updated: 4-34-0. Still the most expensive among BD bowlers.

Tigers_eye
August 8, 2018, 12:11 PM
20 overs 214 required. Already over 10.7 RRR.

One World
August 8, 2018, 12:14 PM
Please stop this run fest by Taskin :facepalm:

Tigers_eye
August 8, 2018, 12:14 PM
And gets hammered on his 5th over gives 11 runs. 5-45-0. Taskin Taskin Taskin.

ahnaf
August 8, 2018, 12:17 PM
And gets hammered on his 5th over gives 11 runs. 5-45-0. Taskin Taskin Taskin.

What happened to his guy? Getting tonked in this level too.

Tigers_eye
August 8, 2018, 01:05 PM
IRE A 117 runs needed in 10 overs (60 balls) with 5 wkts remaining.

One World
August 8, 2018, 01:07 PM
Meanwhile SA probably choking again

One World
August 8, 2018, 01:09 PM
2 wickets 8 runs 6 balls

Can SA do it? Stats says no ;)

Tigers_eye
August 8, 2018, 01:11 PM
RRR has hit 12. 9 overs to go. Ireland A fighting. Very good.

Tigers_eye
August 8, 2018, 01:14 PM
Choked. SA that is.

One World
August 8, 2018, 01:14 PM
Hahahaah Chokers

One World
August 8, 2018, 01:20 PM
Fazle Mahmud - what a bowler under pressure

Starting to like this guy more and more

Shadow
August 8, 2018, 01:24 PM
Fazle Mahmud - what a bowler under pressure

Starting to like this guy more and more

He is definitely a better leg spinner than Sabbir.

al Furqaan
August 8, 2018, 01:58 PM
Mominul is 5'3'' and Mushfiq is 5'4.5''

According to one commentator who asked I think he said the team physio or someone with the info within the team

I forget what game, but he was basically talking about the shortest players in the game, Taylor bavuma and our 2

But its not height its personality, Mushfiq looks short but not small

I've seen Mushy up close during the Caribbean tour in 2009. Mushy is around 5'3". But I agree he is fairly well built for a guy that size. Not fat, but not chikna kengta either. Similar build to Tamim.

I saw Tamim who was about 5'10' and very strongly built. Same with Rubel, Rubel was surprisingly tall also around 5'10".

zura
August 8, 2018, 02:59 PM
I've seen Mushy up close during the Caribbean tour in 2009. Mushy is around 5'3". But I agree he is fairly well built for a guy that size. Not fat, but not chikna kengta either. Similar build to Tamim.

I saw Tamim who was about 5'10' and very strongly built. Same with Rubel, Rubel was surprisingly tall also around 5'10".

Because Rubel is 5'10 whereas Tamim is +2

MarufH
August 8, 2018, 03:34 PM
Why is Afif not getting a chance to bowl. I was always hopeful of Afif becoming next Shakib. I dont usually say it on forum boards in fear of spoiling him too early. But if he doesn't get a chance to bowl, how is he going to become the next Shakib. Very disappointed.

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 04:48 PM
Obviously it worked out this match but surprised fazle got 10 overs and al amin got none.

Donal C
August 8, 2018, 05:39 PM
That Saifuddin fella has been very impressive so far on this tour.

All in all a decent match for both teams. As for the questions re: venue, well we can all tell its probably not too big. Its not actually Clontarf as the OP suggested, no way would we have seen 700 runs then, but rather The Hills CC, in Skerries. So as I've never been I cant say much. Wouldnt look too much into the NZ Womens games though, that was against a severely weakened bowling attack and CI just decided to throw a bunch of teens in for those games. However I'm fairly sure the final ODI and T20's will be in Clontarf (CI asking for volunteers there on twitter), where typically 250 is a good score. Last ODI I can recall played there was vs SL in 2014.

Been a good tour this so far IMO. Useful for us anyway.

Also re: the height debate, find it kinda hilarious that at 6ft/5ft 11 (Me and my fragile ego are saying 6) that I'm taller than your entire team. Might be the tallest guy on the forum :P :D

Gowza
August 8, 2018, 05:59 PM
Saifuddin has generally been impressive at every level other than senior international level, and yet again I have noticed he gets a lot more wickets bowled than at least other BD pacers if not other pace bowlers in general.

ahnaf
August 8, 2018, 06:22 PM
That Saifuddin fella has been very impressive so far on this tour.

All in all a decent match for both teams. As for the questions re: venue, well we can all tell its probably not too big. Its not actually Clontarf as the OP suggested, no way would we have seen 700 runs then, but rather The Hills CC, in Skerries. So as I've never been I cant say much. Wouldnt look too much into the NZ Womens games though, that was against a severely weakened bowling attack and CI just decided to throw a bunch of teens in for those games. However I'm fairly sure the final ODI and T20's will be in Clontarf (CI asking for volunteers there on twitter), where typically 250 is a good score. Last ODI I can recall played there was vs SL in 2014.

Been a good tour this so far IMO. Useful for us anyway.



Thanks for the input Donal. 🙂

al Furqaan
August 8, 2018, 06:25 PM
Also re: the height debate, find it kinda hilarious that at 6ft/5ft 11 (Me and my fragile ego are saying 6) that I'm taller than your entire team. Might be the tallest guy on the forum :P :D

You're real height therefore, is most likely 5'9" to 5'10" since men ALWAYS add two inches to their height even if they are standing in front of a tape measure :D

Well we are generally the shortest build of the 12 Test playing nations, so not that surprising. But I had calculated the average height of our team a couple years back as being about 5'9". The heights of guys - some of whom are on this A team - are as follows:

Shariful - 6'3" or 6'4"
Shahadat 6'3"
Taskin - 6'2"
Al Amin (the bowler) - 6'2"
Mashrafee - 6'1"
Yasin Arafat Mishu - 6'1"
Ebadat Hossain - 6'1"
Naeem Hasan - 6'0"
Mustafiz - 5'11"
Riyad - 5"11"
Nurul - 5'11"
Tamim - 5"10
Razzak - 5'10"
Rubel - 5'9"
Shakib - 5'9"
Mosaddek - 5'9"
Shafiul - 5'8"
Anamul - 5'7"
Sabbir - 5'6"
Ashraful - 5'4"
Mushfiq - 5'3"
Mominul - 5'3"

Imrul is probably around 5'6", Saifuddin and Abul are around 5'11" etc. Roy I think is 6'. So if you look at that list, the median height is around 5'11" which is not that bad especially for an Asian side.

If you look at the current Indian team, apart from Ishant, all their seam bowlers are well under 6 feet tall (Shami, Bhuvi, Umesh, Bumrah, Varun Aaron, etc). Even for PAK Hasan Ali is only about 5'9".

Yankees
August 8, 2018, 07:56 PM
I've seen Mushy up close during the Caribbean tour in 2009. Mushy is around 5'3". But I agree he is fairly well built for a guy that size. Not fat, but not chikna kengta either. Similar build to Tamim.

I saw Tamim who was about 5'10' and very strongly built. Same with Rubel, Rubel was surprisingly tall also around 5'10".

Are you sure youre talking about Mushy Rahim? He looks really scrawny to me, oor "chikna kengta" as you put it. Compare him to somone like Imrul, who is only a couple inches taller and looks like 2 mushy's rolled into 1.

ahnaf
August 8, 2018, 10:26 PM
Salahuddin on Mominul

শিষ্যের সেঞ্চুরিতে উচ্ছ্বসিত মমিনুলের ক্রিকেট গুরু মোহাম্মদ সালাউদ্দিনও। সেই সঙ্গে মমিনুলের আবারও ওয়ানডে দলে থিতু হওয়ার বিশ্বাসের কথাও বললেন দেশের অন্যতম সেরা এই কোচ, ‘শট আগের চেয়েও এখন বেশি এসেছে ওর হাতে। এর প্রতিফলন এখনো পুরোটা দেখা যায়নি। তবে দিন দিন উন্নতিটা আমি অনুশীলনে লক্ষ করেছি। আরেকটু সময় হয়তো লাগবে। আমার মনে হয় একটা সময় সে ওয়ানডে দলেও নিজেকে প্রতিষ্ঠিত করে ফেলবে। কারণ ওয়ানডে খেলার জন্য যা যা করার দরকার, মমিনুল কাজ করছে সেগুলো নিয়েও। শটের সীমাবদ্ধতা থেকে বেরিয়ে আসার চেষ্টাও সে করছে।’ সেসব সীমাবদ্ধতা জয়ের ফিরিস্তিও একটু শুনে নেওয়া যাক সালাউদ্দিনের মুখ থেকে, ‘ড্রাইভে আগে খুব বেশি স্বাচ্ছন্দ্য ছিল না। ওটা উন্নতি করার চেষ্টা করছে। পায়ের ওপর আসা বলে আগেও ভালো ছিল, এখন আরো ভালো করার চেষ্টা করছে। স্পিনেও উন্নতি করার চেষ্টা করছে। এখনো হয়তো সমস্যা আছে। ওর একটা ভালো গুণ হলো ওর অনুশীলনটা খুব অর্থপূর্ণ হয়। রান পাক বা না পাক, উন্নতি করার চেষ্টাটা থামিয়ে দেয় না।’

http://www.kalerkantho.com/print-edition/sports/2018/08/09/667554

cricket_king
August 9, 2018, 08:25 AM
You're real height therefore, is most likely 5'9" to 5'10" since men ALWAYS add two inches to their height even if they are standing in front of a tape measure :D

Well we are generally the shortest build of the 12 Test playing nations, so not that surprising. But I had calculated the average height of our team a couple years back as being about 5'9". The heights of guys - some of whom are on this A team - are as follows:

Shariful - 6'3" or 6'4"
Shahadat 6'3"
Taskin - 6'2"
Al Amin (the bowler) - 6'2"
Mashrafee - 6'1"
Yasin Arafat Mishu - 6'1"
Ebadat Hossain - 6'1"
Naeem Hasan - 6'0"
Mustafiz - 5'11"
Riyad - 5"11"
Nurul - 5'11"
Tamim - 5"10
Razzak - 5'10"
Rubel - 5'9"
Shakib - 5'9"
Mosaddek - 5'9"
Shafiul - 5'8"
Anamul - 5'7"
Sabbir - 5'6"
Ashraful - 5'4"
Mushfiq - 5'3"
Mominul - 5'3"

Imrul is probably around 5'6", Saifuddin and Abul are around 5'11" etc. Roy I think is 6'. So if you look at that list, the median height is around 5'11" which is not that bad especially for an Asian side.

If you look at the current Indian team, apart from Ishant, all their seam bowlers are well under 6 feet tall (Shami, Bhuvi, Umesh, Bumrah, Varun Aaron, etc). Even for PAK Hasan Ali is only about 5'9".

Tbf most of our boys are villagers, not the well-off city kids who have access to good nutrition. The city kids are too busy playing video games and smoking shisha to play any sport.

Donal C
August 9, 2018, 11:25 AM
You're real height therefore, is most likely 5'9" to 5'10" since men ALWAYS add two inches to their height even if they are standing in front of a tape measure :D




Not when they're already tall they dont :P

al Furqaan
August 9, 2018, 12:24 PM
Not when they're already tall they dont :P

5'11" isn't that tall bro...its the median height of the BD team. Not saying its short, but a man who is really 5'11 is going to tell people he's 6'1" just like a guy who's 5'5" is going to claim 5'7".

Only when you're 6'4" or taller does the "already tall" argument kick in.

al Furqaan
August 9, 2018, 12:31 PM
Are you sure youre talking about Mushy Rahim? He looks really scrawny to me, oor "chikna kengta" as you put it. Compare him to somone like Imrul, who is only a couple inches taller and looks like 2 mushy's rolled into 1.

Mushy is built, similar to Tamim. As opposed to Riyad and Taskin who are also muscular but only because they work out. Mushy and Tamim are just naturally powerfully built. They Probably ate lots of beef and meat and drank duud as a kid. Diet plays a huge role. Genes are only a part of (maybe even a minor part). If you look a Shafiul, guaranteed he prolly just ate shobji and daal as a kid. There can always be an exception to the rule, especially with a big enough sample size, but that is the generalization.

Rifat
August 9, 2018, 12:44 PM
Saifuddin impressed me a lot when he tonked Rabada for a couple of sixes in one of the matches in an otherwise dreadful South African tour. Time is still on his side, at least with the bat. With the ball, he can bowl a few Yorkers here and there but needs fine tuning.

Donal C
August 9, 2018, 04:54 PM
5'11" isn't that tall bro...its the median height of the BD team. Not saying its short, but a man who is really 5'11 is going to tell people he's 6'1" just like a guy who's 5'5" is going to claim 5'7".

Only when you're 6'4" or taller does the "already tall" argument kick in.

Lets spice up the final game then. Ireland win you get yourself a Guinness, BD win I convert :P

Am I taller than you btw? Thats the most important thing

al Furqaan
August 9, 2018, 05:54 PM
Lets spice up the final game then. Ireland win you get yourself a Guinness, BD win I convert :P

Am I taller than you btw? Thats the most important thing

I could get a Guinness, but I wouldn't be able to drink it nor would I be able to give it to someone who could as that would make me an accessory.

But if placates you some, yes, you are taller than me even if you're just 5'9" and adding a couple inches. :flag:

aklemalp
August 9, 2018, 06:17 PM
I can take a few guiness right now!

Go Ireland! :D

Donal C
August 9, 2018, 07:16 PM
I could get a Guinness, but I wouldn't be able to drink it nor would I be able to give it to someone who could as that would make me an accessory.

But if placates you some, yes, you are taller than me even if you're just 5'9" and adding a couple inches. :flag:

I am guilty of many flaws but dishonesty aint one of em!!

PS Guinness as per the old famous advertisements gives strength, so if you ever wanna make up our height difference....... :D

I'll write you a prescription. Hadith accredited prescription.

ahnaf
August 10, 2018, 05:14 AM
shanto playing today.

ahnaf
August 10, 2018, 05:23 AM
mominul & shanto on pitch now.

35/2

Gowza
August 10, 2018, 05:26 AM
Yeah shanto in at number 4, was hoping for another good score from zakir.

Gowza
August 10, 2018, 05:27 AM
Wonder why shanto hasn’t played until this match.

ahnaf
August 10, 2018, 06:03 AM
75/3.

Shanto gone

Gowza
August 10, 2018, 06:08 AM
Noooo shanto. Prob going to be an opportunity for al Amin to get a decent score.

BD_TigerZ
August 10, 2018, 06:16 AM
Good chance for Mominul to stake a claim for a position in the ODI team here.

ahnaf
August 10, 2018, 07:04 AM
4/138 (Overs 31.0)

Donal C
August 10, 2018, 07:59 AM
BD A gonna set a very good score, which is to be expected because this is the most experimental line up Ireland have played so far. Basically a domestic XI, packed with all rounders, only about 3-4 dedicated batsmen.

Anyway, 260 plus be a very good total considering the venue's history. BD senior side played here before last year in the tri series

Tigers_eye
August 10, 2018, 08:11 AM
Dang, that was an expensive over. 21. Wide and 5 fours by Fazle.

Tigers_eye
August 10, 2018, 08:13 AM
Run a ball should take them to 280+. 4 overs remaining.

Tigers_eye
August 10, 2018, 08:35 AM
No update in last 20 minutes. What is the final score for BD innings? Anyone?

Tigers_eye
August 10, 2018, 08:38 AM
Alright, from the Ireland Twitter account:

Cricket Ireland‏Verified account @Irelandcricket (https://twitter.com/Irelandcricket) <SMALL class=time>22m22 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Irelandcricket/status/1027906318424834050)</SMALL>

Passing shower here in Clontarf takes everyone off the ground, Bangladesh A 259/6 Mahmud 58* Uddin 4* in the 47th over

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkPbT9KW0AACKNx.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkPbUueX0AAXNB0.jpg

Shapoorji Pallonji (https://twitter.com/SPREINDIA) and Clontarf CricketClub (https://twitter.com/ClontarfCC)

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One World
August 10, 2018, 08:45 AM
Shanto not ready, Mithun deserves a call ahead of Sohan, Fazle definitely should be part of the squad.

One World
August 10, 2018, 08:54 AM
45.5
David Delany to Fazle Rabbi, FOUR
45.4
David Delany to Fazle Rabbi, FOUR
45.3
David Delany to Fazle Rabbi, FOUR
45.2
David Delany to Fazle Rabbi, FOUR
45.1
David Delany to Fazle Rabbi, FOUR


Flurry of fours

zura
August 10, 2018, 09:52 AM
Shanto not ready, Mithun deserves a call ahead of Sohan, Fazle definitely should be part of the squad.

This is Shanto's first game in the series. Can't really make judgment based on this. Fazle can definitely get a chance based on his batting and he can bowl too.

Eshen
August 10, 2018, 10:46 AM
Fazle is not a regular bolwer even in domestic. I am still not convinced about his credential as a bowler.

Donal C
August 10, 2018, 11:43 AM
Al's first ever pint getting closer and closer :P

Ire A 165/1 after 32

WarWolf
August 10, 2018, 11:56 AM
They are scoring freely.

WarWolf
August 10, 2018, 12:07 PM
Wolves are toying with BD bolwers.

Donal C
August 10, 2018, 12:27 PM
Guess we can now say that Irish and Bangladeshi domestic cricket are of a similar level

Donal C
August 10, 2018, 12:43 PM
Slainte al furqaan. Bets a bet. Bottom's up :D :D

https://cloud.lovinmalta.com/images/uploads/2017/02/_relatedEntryImage2x/pint.gif?mtime=20170203140156

Dont make poor aklemalp cover for you. The deen demands it!

zura
August 10, 2018, 12:51 PM
Guess we can now say that Irish and Bangladeshi domestic cricket are of a similar level

A lot of Irish cricketers play in English county cricket. Their domestic cricket is much better than ours.

Donal C
August 10, 2018, 12:55 PM
A lot of Irish cricketers play in English county cricket. Their domestic cricket is much better than ours.

Nope, not anymore due to the ECB rule changes.

Of the XI today

Chase was on Durhams books as a teen, played a handful of times. Played in Ireland exclusively the last 4 years. Exact same for Balbirnie who played a handful of times for Middlesex.

Shannon, Thompson, Kane, Tector, McBrine, Singh, Kennedy, Garth all Irish products, bar Singh who grew up in India.

County cricket had little to do with this.

Eshen
August 10, 2018, 01:03 PM
Really poor bowling performances. Selectors made blunders by not taking better skilled pacers like Anik and Robiul on this tour.

How in the world someone like Khaled keeps getting selected with mediocre domestic stats?!

al Furqaan
August 10, 2018, 03:33 PM
Guess we can now say that Irish and Bangladeshi domestic cricket are of a similar level

Too early to tell that. If it is the case, than this Ireland A team ought to be the senior side because the senior side has been losing by an average margin of 150 runs in recent years. Thats an average margin and against mediocre ODI teams like Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

If the domestic quality is good, Ireland's U-19 team should be ranked in the top 12-13 sides, but they often miss out on qualifying for a 16 team world cup.

The core side is quite old: O'brien bros, Joyce (i guess he's retired), Porterfield, Murtagh, etc. Even the younger guys like Stirling, Balbirnie, McCarthy are now well into the prime of their career.

If you look at Bangladesh, players like Mahmudullah, Miraz, Mustafiz, Mominul they are products of the domestic system. Even Tamim, Shakib, and Mushy are a product of the domestic system in the sense that they came up through the U-19 system which is fairly strong in BD.

Tigers_eye
August 10, 2018, 03:53 PM
Congrats Ireland Wolves. 2-2 draw sounds great at home. You build a fortress at home first. When we got our test status the Zim A team would win 4-0 at our backyard with our then A team (we barely had a national team and didn't have an A team). Very well done. Baby steps. Future looks great. Peter Chase.

tiger1000
August 10, 2018, 05:16 PM
Really poor bowling performances. Selectors made blunders by not taking better skilled pacers like Anik and Robiul on this tour.

How in the world someone like Khaled keeps getting selected with mediocre domestic stats?!

Khaled has done well this series hasn't he?

Donal C
August 10, 2018, 05:52 PM
Too early to tell that. If it is the case, than this Ireland A team ought to be the senior side because the senior side has been losing by an average margin of 150 runs in recent years. Thats an average margin and against mediocre ODI teams like Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

FWIW my comment was more in jest. Obviously BD's domestic is leagues ahead overall, but I do think its fair to say we've shown over the two series we are competitive at this level. 8 ODI's, 6-2 BD with 3 easy BD wins but a couple of close games too. The 4 day game last time was close as well.

tbh ask any Ireland fans and most people wont argue with that point. McCollum, Balbirnie, Singh, McBrine, Chase all have or soon will be mainstays IMO. Kane is banging down the door, Thompson in t20's is a good top order bat. One thing we do have now though, which never existed before, is competition. Wilson in particular is on thin ice and I will be very disappointed if he isnt on his final final chance in the upcoming series vs Afghans, Porterfield is on the brink of (rightfully) losing his t20 spot. Our bowling future actually looks solid. Delany got tonked abit in this series but is the fastest bowler in Ireland hence his accelerated development to the A team. JJ Garth is 16 only and showed he's got something with the bat and vs a team of accomplished players of spin, his ER of about 6 each game was quite good I thought.And there are other talented players not seen in this series who couldve been here too. Neil Rock is drawing Morgan comparisons as he hails from the same club and has been very impressive so far. Harry Tector didnt get much of a chance this series but is very highly regarded, hence the decision to give him the captaincy today.

As for the senior side losing, correct, its been bad lately. The loss vs Zim in the WCQ a particular low point, but tbf with t20 style cricket coming into ODI's more and more massive defeats are happening to all teams, not just Ireland. BD, Australia, SL, Pak etc all have had 150 plus run thumpings.

If the domestic quality is good, Ireland's U-19 team should be ranked in the top 12-13 sides, but they often miss out on qualifying for a 16 team world cup.

If by often you mean once then yeah. You need to analyse the qualification pathway. We face off with Scotland, who naturally enough will be very similar to Ireland in terms of quality at younger age levels because it takes time to fully develop, and they themselves have a good youth programme. Us not qualifying occasionally is down to the garbage system which gives PNG, Nepal (now that Afg are autos), Namibia et al ridiculously easy qualifying and having us and Scotland battle tooth and nail for one spot.

Look at this years WC. Defeated an impressive (and overaged) Afghan team, gave SL a good game, shouldve beaten the WI, annihilated Namibia and PNG. We got done in in that tournament by being in the group of death. Zimbabwe beat Canada and got a 10th place, we beat Afg and were more competitive overall and got 13th. How it goes.

The core side is quite old: O'brien bros, Joyce (i guess he's retired), Porterfield, Murtagh, etc. Even the younger guys like Stirling, Balbirnie, McCarthy are now well into the prime of their career.

Joyce is retired. All the guys you mention are relatively old yes but tbf batsmen can retain their ability for a long time. Stirling is, what, 27? McCarthy 25 IIRC, Balbirnie true, he needs to step up and transfer this to senior level. But these guys will be around for 10 years or more yet potentially. No need to worry in that front IMO. And the future talent will challenge them. Do agree though the first list of players need to be replaced, however Murtagh will likely leave soon, Suspect he wont be alone.

If you look at Bangladesh, players like Mahmudullah, Miraz, Mustafiz, Mominul they are products of the domestic system. Even Tamim, Shakib, and Mushy are a product of the domestic system in the sense that they came up through the U-19 system which is fairly strong in BD.

Anyway I wont have many chances to tease you about your youngsta beauty getting taken for 10 an over by my boys like in the previous game :D

cricket_king
August 11, 2018, 02:43 AM
Good tour. Glad to see the A team play decently in these conditions. Bowling definitely needs some work. Ireland did well to come back from every loss. A shame the first odi got washed out.

Rinathq
August 11, 2018, 02:57 AM
our youngsters couldn't win a series against Irish A team...boy u guys are still optimistic1

#our5needsfountainofyouth

al Furqaan
August 11, 2018, 11:58 AM
Would have been good to win the series. Would have been even better to have had a couple of 4-dayers in these conditions.

A team isn't really about winning or losing though. Its about individuals putting their hands up for selection.

As well as Khaled has done, I don't see what use we have for a short 125 kph bowler. He could take a 100 wickets at this level and I'd still rather see Mishu who should have been picked. He just took an 8 fer in the DPL and he wasn't even picked for this tour. This with a English WC coming up! That is just poor planning. Glad that Sharif at least got a good go and did quite well. Picked wickets in every game. Should get him ready for the WC and Test cricket immediately thereafter.

Jadukor
August 11, 2018, 07:32 PM
Good tour. Glad to see the A team play decently in these conditions. Bowling definitely needs some work. Ireland did well to come back from every loss. A shame the first odi got washed out.
I have my doubt about the conditions these guys faced. It was a very high scoring series so i dont think there was a lot of movement which would have tested the techniques of our players.

Gowza
August 11, 2018, 07:42 PM
Need another A tour ASAP. Need zakir, afif, shoriful, al Amin to get more experience, and it would also test out their consistency.

Still don’t get why shanto got only 1 match and it was the last one, someone hate him or something? No match preparation in the conditions, he was either going to look really good (if he made an innings of it) or look really bad since he’s a national squad member. It would’ve been good for him to get a few more matches for experience.

brockley
August 12, 2018, 04:42 AM
2 aĺl.First one rained out.That ends the onedayers right?
The 20 20 rs now. Looks like an Irish full side.Selectors gone mad,should be a development side.

Jadukor
August 12, 2018, 11:36 PM
Time to test Ash in the A team. His ban is over now for international cricket. No 6 batting place is available if he can prove the 5 domestic centuries he scored last season was no fluke.

আশরাফুল: বাংলাদেশ দল এখন যে আক্রমণাত্মক বা ইতিবাচক ক্রিকেট খেলে, ক্যারিয়ারের শুরুতে এভাবেই খেলেছি। আমি তো কখনো ‘টুক টুক’ ব্যাটিং করিনি। ১৮ বছর আগেই যদি ইতিবাচক ক্রিকেট খেলি, এখন আমার কোনো সমস্যা হবে না। বিশ্বাস করি, এই দলে জায়গা করে নিতে পারব, যদি আমাকে সুযোগ দেওয়া হয়। এখন যদি কেউ ভাবে ‘আমাকে নেবেই না’, তাহলে তো সুযোগ পাওয়ার প্রশ্ন নেই। গত মৌসুমেও লিস্ট ‘এ’তে পাঁচটি সেঞ্চুরি করেছি। বাংলাদেশ দল অনেক ভালো খেলছে। কিন্তু ধারাবাহিক ভালো খেলছে কারা? পাঁচ সিনিয়র খেলোয়াড়। জুনিয়ররাও ভালো খেলোয়াড়। তবে আমি মনে করি, অভিজ্ঞতা দিয়ে দলে জায়গা করে নেওয়ার সামর্থ্য আমার আছে।

http://www.prothomalo.com/sports/article/1552541

Shadow
August 13, 2018, 11:52 AM
Ireland A ended with 152/10 from 20 overs.

Donal C
August 13, 2018, 12:54 PM
Shows how garbage we are at t20 than close to a full side is getting hammered by Bangladesh A. Retarded selection tbh. Porterfield et al will never, ever be t20 players. Should've fielded an actual A team.

One World
August 13, 2018, 01:14 PM
Clinical win

IRE A 152 (20.0 Ovs)
BAN A 155/6 (18.0 Ovs) CRR: 8.61
Bangladesh A won by 4 wkts

zura
August 13, 2018, 03:15 PM
Sarkar scored a 50. You know what that means, he is getting in the Asia Cup squad.

Gowza
August 13, 2018, 04:35 PM
Shanto and afif got runs and scored at good strike rates, afif also getting a wicket. Saifuddin the best of the bowlers, shoriful continues to take wickets. Soumya has been utilised a bit more with the ball lately than he usually is.

You see what was done well in this match is BD had one of the openers and the 1st drop both scoring runs. A strong top order makes a big difference. Basically if you can get at least 2 of the top 4 performing every match then you’ve got a good chance of putting in a good total, but if not then it’s a big struggle.

Awesome to see afif make the recovery and finish the match, definitely likes the pressure situations.

Take note, soumya was captain so he’s obviously still very much in the plans for the future and mithun kept wicket instead of zakir so basically zakir’s keeping at this point is an after thought.

WarWolf
August 16, 2018, 09:04 AM
Ireland A scored 202 and our bolods are struggling badly. Mominul got out at 14 and Shanto scored a duck.

Shadow
August 16, 2018, 09:19 AM
Bangladesh 40/4 after six overs.

Gowza
August 16, 2018, 09:26 AM
Down to afif, al Amin and maybe saifuddin to make the score respectable.

Gowza
August 16, 2018, 09:33 AM
Afif gone

Gowza
August 16, 2018, 09:36 AM
Al Amin gone for 12

Gowza
August 16, 2018, 09:37 AM
The chance of getting to one hundred here seems very low atm.

Shadow
August 16, 2018, 09:40 AM
All the Irish bowlers who have bowled up till now picked up at least one wicket.

zura
August 16, 2018, 09:43 AM
11 overs 77/7 Bangladesh A chasing 203.

Gowza
August 16, 2018, 09:52 AM
Thanks to a nice partnership the 100 is in reach

Gowza
August 16, 2018, 09:59 AM
Managed to get into the triple figures

One World
August 16, 2018, 10:14 AM
My only question to Irish Board, please name your main eleven. :D

RealSports
August 16, 2018, 12:39 PM
I'm not at all bothered by the results especially since it's been an awful long time since they last had an A tour away from home. I hope this is one of many though I prefer if the opponent was stronger than Ireland.

cricket_king
August 16, 2018, 06:00 PM
I'm not at all bothered by the results especially since it's been an awful long time since they last had an A tour away from home. I hope this is one of many though I prefer if the opponent was stronger than Ireland.

Not sure why you'd prefer a stronger opponent when we didn't win the ODI series and are 0-1 down in the T20s.

One World
August 16, 2018, 06:29 PM
We are not 0-1 down. We draw T20 too.

Jadukor
August 16, 2018, 07:25 PM
Our A team cannot beat Ireland A team. That tells you everything you need to know about the quality of our backup players

Rinathq
August 16, 2018, 07:43 PM
Our A team cannot beat Ireland A team. That tells you everything you need to know about the quality of our backup players

That tells you everything u need to know about our young players.. this squad shouldve had some experienced players...

Gowza
August 17, 2018, 12:35 AM
I don’t think they were too short of experience in the list A format with a lot of them having played 70+ list As some even close to a hundred or even 100+, but maybe in the other formats they were short of experience. Of course they weren’t as experienced as guys like tushar, naeem, nafees, Saleh but part of A team cricket is about developing back ups and/or developing prospects so you don’t want too many older stalwarts in there. The experience of playing in foreign conditions can be invaluable.

zura
August 17, 2018, 06:39 AM
Our A team is filled more with national team rejects than players based on merits. Thus, I wouldn't say that these are the representation of our domestic players. Guys like Mominul and Sarkar will put 1 good innings and then go to sleep for the rest of the series.

Mridul
August 17, 2018, 08:38 AM
Why can't we just say this Ireland team is better than our A team. We should not just think its an Ireland team and we can beat them easily. Our national team just lost to Afghanistan team not too long ago.

We need to nurture our pipelines with frequent games and proper coaching.

zura
August 17, 2018, 08:53 AM
Why can't we just say this Ireland team is better than our A team. We should not just think its an Ireland team and we can beat them easily. Our national team just lost to Afghanistan team not too long ago.

We need to nurture our pipelines with frequent games and proper coaching.

It's because a lot of these "A team" players are rather national team players looking for match-fitness. We on the other hand sent the national team failures to try and find some form.

Krishna
August 17, 2018, 09:21 AM
It's because a lot of these "A team" players are rather national team players looking for match-fitness. We on the other hand sent the national team failures to try and find some form.

i agree on the T20 there were awfully a lot NT Irish cricketers. Saying that they are 17th rank and worst t20 side among the test playing nations. But in the One day series, there were good number of pipeline irish cricketers and i would give them credit to draw the series.

Shadow
August 17, 2018, 11:35 AM
Ireland wolves 56/3 after six overs.

Shadow
August 17, 2018, 12:01 PM
Wolves 118/3 after 12 overs.

Tigers_eye
August 17, 2018, 12:07 PM
Bari diya tho raktase na kisu.

One World
August 17, 2018, 01:07 PM
After 5 overs,

CRR: 10.6
RRR: 10.08

:wow:

That is probably fastest 50 in any BD innings without losing a wicket!

(Actually second fastest, fastest was 3rd match against WIndies in Florida)

One World
August 17, 2018, 01:11 PM
Murder by Soummya, Mithun

72/0 after six overs

One World
August 17, 2018, 01:16 PM
Mithun 50 in 23 balls - another record?

One World
August 17, 2018, 01:17 PM
Target below 100 now! :fanflag:

Tiger Manc
August 17, 2018, 01:19 PM
Mithun Ali going berserk 56 off 25

Tiger Manc
August 17, 2018, 01:21 PM
103/0 after 8 overs

One World
August 17, 2018, 01:22 PM
I think first time in T20I we crossed 100 without losing a wicket

One World
August 17, 2018, 01:23 PM
Also 9 sixes in 8 overs, should be maximum sixes hit in minimum span of deliveries

One World
August 17, 2018, 01:25 PM
RRR is 8, they can cool down now

Tiger Manc
August 17, 2018, 01:26 PM
Need 72 to win from 54 balls with 10 wickets in hand

Tiger Manc
August 17, 2018, 01:35 PM
How often has Soumya Sarkar been out in the 30s and 40s in T20s?

One World
August 17, 2018, 01:36 PM
SS did his job, others should chip in and finish it comfortably

Tiger Manc
August 17, 2018, 01:37 PM
Scored 10 runs in the last 2 overs.

One World
August 17, 2018, 01:37 PM
Shanto is not a T20 material, they should have sent Zakir