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adamnsu
August 2, 2018, 06:08 AM
The main elephant room is not being talked about.

The recent death of two college students have sparked protests in the country by students. We have a nasty Minister mocking these deaths to be a trivial matter. And an Education Minister taking 3 days to recognise it officially.

tonmoy.dhaka
August 2, 2018, 08:18 AM
Here is my view

The fact that unfit vehicles (easily identifiable) is allowed to be driven in the street without
consequences shows how corrupt the society is.

This is all a result of syndicate that controls the bus and truck industry. New investors are resisted from getting into the business. The existing ones have no regulations to follow to operate their vehicle/business except for payment of a small sum to the authority dedicated to maintaining the regulations. Hence no fitness, no drivers licence, infact a lot of the drivers cannot even read or write.. but hey no problemos.

DinRaat.
August 2, 2018, 09:08 AM
Here is my view

The fact that unfit vehicles (easily identifiable) is allowed to be driven in the street without
consequences shows how corrupt the society is.

This is all a result of syndicate that controls the bus and truck industry. New investors are resisted from getting into the business. The existing ones have no regulations to follow to operate their vehicle/business except for payment of a small sum to the authority dedicated to maintaining the regulations. Hence no fitness, no drivers licence, infact a lot of the drivers cannot even read or write.. but hey no problemos.

I call this the "That'll do" mentality.

Everything we attempted is either half assed. Look at our infrastructure a pristine example.

DinRaat.
August 2, 2018, 09:13 AM
Can someone explain to me the difference between Hasina and a dictator.

Bangladesh need a new face, instead of these inherited and entitled idiots

adamnsu
August 2, 2018, 09:35 AM
Can someone explain to me the difference between Hasina and a dictator.

Bangladesh need a new face, instead of these inherited and entitled idiots

I share your sentiments however thats beside the topic. Even Khaleda would have used the same force and done the same thing.

What Hasina should do is make some heads roll from her own party to calm the situation. She is instead using police and in some areas army to get a grip.

adamnsu
August 2, 2018, 09:40 AM
Here is my view

The fact that unfit vehicles (easily identifiable) is allowed to be driven in the street without
consequences shows how corrupt the society is.

This is all a result of syndicate that controls the bus and truck industry. New investors are resisted from getting into the business. The existing ones have no regulations to follow to operate their vehicle/business except for payment of a small sum to the authority dedicated to maintaining the regulations. Hence no fitness, no drivers licence, infact a lot of the drivers cannot even read or write.. but hey no problemos.

I also agree with vehicles need to be fit. But it is more important to get drivers trained with valid licenses, put safety precautions in speeding and overtaking areas where accidents happen, and stop jay walking.

adamnsu
August 2, 2018, 09:42 AM
There are reports of some of Hasina's party goons are alleging the students to be BNP and Jamaat brain washed, while someone went as far as branding the students RAJAKARs children:facepalm:

This is as bad if not worse than the comment a Minsiter or MP made about the Rana plaza disaster that some BNP Jamat supporters shook the gate of the plaza to cause the downfall.

roman
August 2, 2018, 09:59 AM
There are reports of some of Hasina's party goons are alleging the students to be BNP and Jamaat brain washed, while someone went as far as branding the students RAJAKARs children:facepalm:

This is as bad if not worse than the comment a Minsiter or MP made about the Rana plaza disaster that some BNP Jamat supporters shook the gate of the plaza to cause the downfall.

It is very normal scenario in BD. Even if Anyone farts, BAL will blame BNP Jamat for this. The table will turn around if BNP gets elected. Then they will start blaming BAL for everything. Ridiculous Politics and stupid politicians

tonmoy.dhaka
August 2, 2018, 09:59 AM
I also agree with vehicles need to be fit. But it is more important to get drivers trained with valid licenses, put safety precautions in speeding and overtaking areas where accidents happen, and stop jay walking.

Disagree, a fit vehicle is a must... The first accident I witnessed live was a bus T-boning 2 rickshaws. It happened not because the driver was at fault but he could not stop because his hydraulic brakes gave up...

Also it is important for all vehicles on the road to be able to anticipate the movement of all other vehicles, without indicators working it is impossible. One can only blame the driver once the vehicle he operates is safe to be driven in the road.

adamnsu
August 2, 2018, 10:07 AM
Disagree, a fit vehicle is a must... The first accident I witnessed live was a bus T-boning 2 rickshaws. It happened not because the driver was at fault but he could not stop because his hydraulic brakes gave up...

Also it is important for all vehicles on the road to be able to anticipate the movement of all other vehicles, without indicators working it is impossible. One can only blame the driver once the vehicle he operates is safe to be driven in the road.

A driver without a license shouldnt be allowed to drive at all regardless of the condition of the vehicle though.

tonmoy.dhaka
August 2, 2018, 10:14 AM
A driver without a license shouldnt be allowed to drive at all regardless of the condition of the vehicle though.

True.. also true that you can buy a genuine licence (or atleast u could few years back) from BRTA. Just pay the money and no test required. Hope that changed (if someone can shed some light) ?

Also there are hardly any bus/truck driving schools in Bangladesh/India/Pakistan. Usually the helpers learn from the drivers and that has been going on for ages.

One of the condition for driving is that the driver must be able to read and write, but that condition was protested by the bus truck owners and drivers syndicate. Tells u all u need to know.

bujhee kom
August 2, 2018, 10:21 AM
Dear guys, what happened? I get the gist that something of extremely sad and horrible happened, a student(s) died in road accident due to reckless bus or truck drivers.
I am at work, I couldn't do a quick search, will do later at home..

But I read our BC quickly every now and then...
Thank you, bhais and apus.

May the souls of the student victims rest in eternal peace.

DinRaat.
August 2, 2018, 10:32 AM
Bangladeshi politics is kinda like Zimbabwean cricket. All the talented students are going overseas and settling abroad , and getting degrees from prestigious universities.

If a few million well educated students in law,Commerce,economics and business came back to Bangladesh, we could of formed a third party , easily strong enough to take down the uneducated and back wards thinking politicians of BNP and ALP.

Alas this we'll never happen , but one can dream. We can call it UDSP

Unified Democratic Socialist Party

adamnsu
August 2, 2018, 10:39 AM
Dear guys, what happened? I get the gist that something of extremely sad and horrible happened, a student(s) died in road accident due to reckless bus or truck drivers.
I am at work, I couldn't do a quick search, will do later at home..

But I read our BC quickly every now and then...
Thank you, bhais and apus.

May the souls of the student victims rest in eternal peace.

This is not getting strong attention outside Bangladesh.

Sad times BK Bhai. Short cut story:
- 2 college students was killed by a bus driver
- Students from the college protesting for justice for these students
- Police starts attacking students.
- Students enraged by the comments made by a smiling Minister implying this is not a big issue for kids to get killed
- Students from all walks of life demanding safer roads and licenses for drivers
- Today BCL and police attacking students and intimidating them with gun shots

Allhamdullillah no further deaths during protest period

adamnsu
August 2, 2018, 10:45 AM
Bangladeshi politics is kinda like Zimbabwean cricket. All the talented students are going overseas and settling abroad , and getting degrees from prestigious universities.

If a few million well educated students in law,Commerce,economics and business came back to Bangladesh, we could of formed a third party , easily strong enough to take down the uneducated and back wards thinking politicians of BNP and ALP.

Alas this we'll never happen , but one can dream. We can call it UDSP

Unified Democratic Socialist Party

Politics is not that easy tbh. Education especially in the sub continent doesnt have as big as a role as it does in Western countries. Before, you only needed money to win in Bangladesh, but from what I heard a newbie even in a fair election cant win unless he spends alot of time with the voters. One of BC forum members' relative in here stood in an election when BNP contested BNP. He was atleast 5 times richer than his rival and spend lots of money on the election also more educated. But he got defeated by a younger guy from his same party, as he spent more time with the local people.

Also the nature of our people does not allow good people to get elected. We had all these corrupt politicians in jail during at one time during a care taker government. But still they were allowed to contest for elections.

But again, all of this is beside the point.

ToBeFair
August 2, 2018, 11:45 AM
My two cents:

I often hear our PMs, ministers, MPs asking foreign investors to invest in BD. Don't they look at the infrastructure of BD and feel ashamed when they make this request to foreign investors? What impression does an investor get when he lands at our airport and comes out of it?

As I had said before, BD unfortunately never had any visionary leader. Sk Mujib was a visionary, but as he said, sobai pai sonar khoni, ami paisi chorer khoni. Thus the vision remained a vision.

Since 1990s, when parliamentary politics made a comeback to BD, our rulers, both BNP and AL, have ruled simply to maintain the status quo and use the state as a money making machine for their future or the future of their family somewhere else. They never had any sincere vision for BD. Thus, we have had development (unnoyon), but this was always unnoyon of joratali/eye wash/kaj chole type. And whatever development has happened, the true goal was percentage. But now that our economy has grown, population grown - our jora tali road infrastructure is failing to take pressure any longer. Road accidents result in more than 8000 deaths per year and many more in permanent disabilities.

At the same time, whatever system/infrastructure we have, if we the BD people were civil and well mannered, we could have done better. But like it or not, BD people in general are bad - no manners, corrupt, jealous, not law abiding....(you can name almost all negatives here). Last December when I visited BD, my driver was driving very recklessly - with utmost disrespect to rules - cutting people for no reason, honking for no reason and what not. I confronted him and explained to him that this is not right. I told him that I drive and that this sort of competition in the roads and harakiri will not reach you to your destination earlier save may be few minutes. He did not buy my logic (and my logic is true - over speeding often saves you max few minutes). He said, "afnegor kothamoto gari calaile saradin rastay boia thahon lagbno." Then he got into an accident. The accident happened outside Dhaka, and our car was about to fall into a ditch. But God saved us. Both parties agreed that we will go our ways - but local mastans gathered immediately out of no where and demanded chanda. They blocked our car and didn't allow us to leave until both parties paid those mastans to the tune of 5000 BDT. During that whole fiasco, I heard from those mastans language I never heard before.

Anyway, coming to the recent protests, these are only pixels of the bigger image about the anger public has about government. Government trying to put the fire - gave 20 lakh to each family, reprimanded Shahjahan khan but road system will remain jei lau sei kodu.

Another good analysis

http://www.prothomalo.com/opinion/article/1545411/সড়কের-আসল-ঘাতক-মাফিয়াতন্ত্র-ও-দুর্নীতি

bujhee kom
August 2, 2018, 12:33 PM
This is not getting strong attention outside Bangladesh.

Sad times BK Bhai. Short cut story:
- 2 college students was killed by a bus driver
- Students from the college protesting for justice for these students
- Police starts attacking students.
- Students enraged by the comments made by a smiling Minister implying this is not a big issue for kids to get killed
- Students from all walks of life demanding safer roads and licenses for drivers
- Today BCL and police attacking students and intimidating them with gun shots

Allhamdullillah no further deaths during protest period

Thank you for explaining the incident and the situation to me, Adam bhaiya!

Shingara
August 2, 2018, 01:32 PM
Middle laney bus cholti obostay passengereky namaiya dey. Ar, left laney arek bus speedey ashey.
Emney hoiley manush to morbei.

Shingara
August 2, 2018, 01:37 PM
A driver without a license shouldnt be allowed to drive at all regardless of the condition of the vehicle though.

Adam bhai, Bangladesher kotha rakhen. Eikhaner obostai dekhen na. Ekhaney ajkal East European adultra ar Tower Hamletser polapan jemney gari chalay , tatey vuja jay jiboney kuno driving lesson ney nai ar license sara gari chalay.
Lane discpline nai, indicator bebohar korey na, tailgating korey, left only laney giya straight jay, 50 er rastay 80tey chalay, zigzagging korey ... ami janala khuila Banglay galigalaj kori jorey. Apnar vabi amar shathey garitey uthey tajjob hoye jay amarey deikha. :lol:

tonmoy.dhaka
August 2, 2018, 02:06 PM
^^ A licence is only valid if the licence holder
1/ Gave a legitimate driving test and passed
2/ Can read and write (not uneducated)

Your licence might be legal while one/two or both of the above conditions are false in Bangladesh. (In other words legal licence can be easily obtained through illegal means in Bangladesh)

adamnsu
August 2, 2018, 03:32 PM
Adam bhai, Bangladesher kotha rakhen. Eikhaner obostai dekhen na. Ekhaney ajkal East European adultra ar Tower Hamletser polapan jemney gari chalay , tatey vuja jay jiboney kuno driving lesson ney nai ar license sara gari chalay.
Lane discpline nai, indicator bebohar korey na, tailgating korey, left only laney giya straight jay, 50 er rastay 80tey chalay, zigzagging korey ... ami janala khuila Banglay galigalaj kori jorey. Apnar vabi amar shathey garitey uthey tajjob hoye jay amarey deikha. :lol:


TBH driving on roads these days isn’t as enjoyable as it used to be because of the type of drivers you have mentioned in the UK. And don’t forget the cyclists some of whom who think they own the road.

I used to have road rage and not always drive like a bhodro lok!

But comparing UK and Bangladesh driving experience is like comparing Theresa May and Sheikh Hasina.

Coming back to the issue, I wanted to hear your views of what the school kids are doing. Mostly people encouraging these steps etc. I feel some aspects of this are great but at the end of the day little will come by it. If they can make that nasty Minister kicked from his post then I guess that would be a result.

iDumb
August 2, 2018, 03:35 PM
But comparing UK and Bangladesh driving experience is like comparing Theresa May and Sheikh Hasina.



if all the factors are kept equal and May and hasina are put head to head. My money is on Hasina to outshine.

roman
August 2, 2018, 04:33 PM
Coming back to the issue, I wanted to hear your views of what the school kids are doing. Mostly people encouraging these steps etc. I feel some aspects of this are great but at the end of the day little will come by it. If they can make that nasty Minister kicked from his post then I guess that would be a result.

Nothing fruitful will come out of this IMHO. You need to have a political party backups to achieve something in BD. Yes, it is good seeing our students getting united for a great cause, but sooner or later they will go home. Politicians are just buying time now, Eid is knocking on the door too. After eid, it will all be about election and if the students continue protesting, they will face the wrath of Chatro league nand Bangladesh Lathiyal bahini AKA police. They along with chatro league already have beaten few students in mirpur today. And it will only get worse.

Shahajahan will not resign because he is a shameless retard. Actually all politicians are. No need to single him out

adamnsu
August 2, 2018, 05:06 PM
Nothing fruitful will come out of this IMHO. You need to have a political party backups to achieve something in BD. Yes, it is good seeing our students getting united for a great cause, but sooner or later they will go home. Politicians are just buying time now, Eid is knocking on the door too. After eid, it will all be about election and if the students continue protesting, they will face the wrath of Chatro league nand Bangladesh Lathiyal bahini AKA police. They along with chatro league already have beaten few students in mirpur today. And it will only get worse.

Shahajahan will not resign because he is a shameless retard. Actually all politicians are. No need to single him out

Finally someone sticking to the point.

Good to see the kids united and doing some good things on the roads. I also think that this will just die down in few days and nothing much will come of it either. Even it took ages for Biswajeet killers to bring them to justice.

Read 20 lakhs takes each was given to the two families of the deceased. But this will not in any way compensate for the mental loss they will suffer.

But Hasina allowing brutal force on young kids is just a sign showing what a harsh leader she is. Wonder if her Dad dreamt of such a pathetic situation.

adamnsu
August 2, 2018, 05:08 PM
I just hope no more innocent kids suffer physical beatings.

Rifat
August 2, 2018, 05:11 PM
One easier solution is to Enforce Traffic laws and pedestrian rights just like the U.S.A. and other developed countries. if people violate the laws, then fines should be upheld and license suspension. if they still disobey then send the offenders to jail, no exceptions!

adamnsu
August 2, 2018, 05:16 PM
https://youtu.be/kPuhX572bdM

bujhee kom
August 2, 2018, 05:48 PM
https://youtu.be/kPuhX572bdM

That is a great clip, Adam bhaiya!

Also look at this one. I found this one while watching yours. This is a great Police officer. I wish we had a lot more other officers like this good man! This guy is a genuine police officer, a true cop.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wkSvQv-BKuw" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

ahnaf
August 2, 2018, 10:20 PM
One easier solution is to Enforce Traffic laws and pedestrian rights just like the U.S.A. and other developed countries. if people violate the laws, then fines should be upheld and license suspension. if they still disobey then send the offenders to jail, no exceptions!

It's in process.

https://m.bdnews24.com/en/detail/bangladesh/1524945

One World
August 3, 2018, 12:41 AM
Additionally all those with tiniest involvement in any past fatal accident should be barred from operating any heavy vehicle ever.

ToBeFair
August 3, 2018, 11:05 AM
Read this story

http://www.prothomalo.com/bangladesh/article/1546426/টোল-প্লাজায়-ভাঙচুর-মারধর-এএসপি-প্রত্যাহার

ToBeFair
August 3, 2018, 11:07 AM
if all the factors are kept equal and May and hasina are put head to head. My money is on Hasina to outshine.

There is a word in Bangla "দলকানা" :big_hug:

ToBeFair
August 3, 2018, 11:12 AM
A comment from Prothom Alo

নাম প্রকাশে অনিচ্ছুক
সমাধান শাহজাহান খান নন, অন্যত্র। শাহজাহান খানকে পাল্টালেও পরিস্থিতি খুব একটা পাল্টাবে না। সড়কে বিশৃঙ্খলা বিচ্ছিন্ন কিছু নয়, এটা রাষ্ট্রের সামগ্রিক বিশৃঙ্খলার একটা দিক মাত্র। এই বিশৃঙ্খলা শুরু হয়েছে দেশ স্বাধীন হওয়ার পর থেকেই, দিনে দিনে তা আজকের অবস্থায় এসেছে। সরকার আসে, সরকার যায় কিন্তু বিশৃঙ্খলা বিস্তৃতি ঘটে অপ্রতিরোধ্যভাবে। কোন সরকারই দেশকে শৃঙ্খলায় ফেরানোর চেষ্টা করেনি, শুধু ক্ষমতা পাকাপোক্ত করার ধান্ধায় ছিল। তবে একটা রাষ্ট্রে সব ধরনের নৈরাজ্য আর বিশৃঙ্খলার বলি হয় শেষ পর্যন্ত সাধারণ মানুষ, ক্ষমতাবানদের কিছুই হয় না, বরং যত বেশি বিশৃঙ্খলা মহল বিশেষের ততই পোয়াবারো। আসল সমস্যা রাষ্ট্রের চরিত্রে, সেটা পাল্টাতে না পারলে শাহজাহান খানকে পাল্টাপাল্টি করে আর কী হবে?

tonmoy.dhaka
August 3, 2018, 11:23 AM
A comment from Prothom Alo

A great comment!!

Always thought internet (Bangladeshi news site/pages on FB and other social media) are only full of trolls.. The comments there used to make my blood boil so I stopped reading them altogether.
Guess sometimes there are these gems.

I do think Shahjahan khan should still retire from politics altogether. But I also agree with the comment that it would not solve anything.

Shingara
August 3, 2018, 11:37 AM
Shobgula private bus uthaya deoa dorkar. Shudhu BRTC bus cholbey ar BRTC er route o bariye deoa dorkar.
BRTC er ager dami dami purple busgulu ki shundor chilo. Leather/Faux leather seats ar vitorey fan. 5 takay Mohammadpur thekey Dhanmoditey jetam. Shalar shorkarer lokgula oi busgulukey bochorer por bochor feleye rekehey noshto korsey.

ToBeFair
August 3, 2018, 11:46 AM
A great comment!!

Always thought internet (Bangladeshi news site/pages on FB and other social media) are only full of trolls.. The comments there used to make my blood boil so I stopped reading them altogether.
Guess sometimes there are these gems.

I do think Shahjahan khan should still retire from politics altogether. But I also agree with the comment that it would not solve anything.

S Khan should retire because he cannot be a Minister and simultaneously be a union leader. That is a pure conflict of interest. But who cares? AL is afraid of his influence over workers, and despite being totally unqualified and numerous gaffes, they kept him as a minister for 9 years.

ToBeFair
August 3, 2018, 11:47 AM
http://www.prothomalo.com/durporobash/article/1545791/কবে-যে-আমরা-বাঙালি-থেকে-মানুষ-হব

Tagore was right
হে বাঙলার জননী সাত কোটি সন্তানকে রেখেছ বাঙলী করে মানুষ করনি

May be British Raj was right. They considered the people of India too too uncivil for own self rule :(

ToBeFair
August 3, 2018, 11:53 AM
If you have missed this incident read it:

http://www.prothomalo.com/opinion/article/1540511

Rinathq
August 3, 2018, 03:46 PM
I think this movement is going to turn nasty very soon with BAL trying to inject Chatro League within the students and turn it 360 degrees in their favor. We cannot let this movement turn into another Shahabag!

Habib
August 3, 2018, 04:43 PM
Shakib has already started his political career using FB:
http://m.prothomalo.com/sports/article/1546421/%E0%A6%B6%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B7%E0%A 6%BE%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A5%E0%A7%80%E0%A6%A6% E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%98%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%AB%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%B9%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BE%E0%A 6%A8-%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AC%E0%A 7%87%E0%A6%B0

Amader MP shaheb khub chintito mone hocche.

Habib
August 3, 2018, 04:45 PM
I think this movement is going to turn nasty very soon with BAL trying to inject Chatro League within the students and turn it 360 degrees in their favor. We cannot let this movement turn into another Shahabag!

That will probably happen. But the important thing is, these movements are happening with increasing frequency now a days regarding different issues. Signs of bigger things to come perhaps?

adamnsu
August 4, 2018, 02:44 AM
Bangladeshi FACEBOOK celebrities trying to promote themselves and failing

https://www.dhakatribune.com/around-the-web/2018/08/02/facebook-celebrities-face-humiliation-on-facebook-live

adamnsu
August 4, 2018, 02:47 AM
Shakib has already started his political career using FB:
http://m.prothomalo.com/sports/article/1546421/%E0%A6%B6%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B7%E0%A 6%BE%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A5%E0%A7%80%E0%A6%A6% E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%98%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%AB%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%B9%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BE%E0%A 6%A8-%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AC%E0%A 7%87%E0%A6%B0

Amader MP shaheb khub chintito mone hocche.

TBH as if students will listen to Shakib these days. I don’t understand so many of our players posting messages regularly to fans is kind of strange. Especially some of Shabbir’s replies to his fans

adamnsu
August 4, 2018, 02:50 AM
I think this movement is going to turn nasty very soon with BAL trying to inject Chatro League within the students and turn it 360 degrees in their favor. We cannot let this movement turn into another Shahabag!

It’s already turned nasty in some areas. I don’t think much will happen as students don’t have power to do much. This movement does have some good aspects about. However I want this failure to hit Hasina and AL in the backside. But it won’t happen, even after the disaster like Rapa plaza is forgotten where her own goons were involved.

adamnsu
August 4, 2018, 02:53 AM
That is a great clip, Adam bhaiya!

Also look at this one. I found this one while watching yours. This is a great Police officer. I wish we had a lot more other officers like this good man! This guy is a genuine police officer, a true cop.

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This guy knows how to talk sense that I will agree. His talking style is a bit like the deceased tyrant Saka Chowdhury.

ToBeFair
August 4, 2018, 03:08 AM
http://www.prothomalo.com/bangladesh/article/1546891/সড়কে-২৫-হাজার-মানুষের-মৃত্যু

25000 deaths in last 3.5 years in road accidents.

Average 20 deaths per day.

adamnsu
August 4, 2018, 03:50 AM
http://www.prothomalo.com/bangladesh/article/1546891/সড়কে-২৫-হাজার-মানুষের-মৃত্যু

25000 deaths in last 3.5 years in road accidents.

Average 20 deaths per day.

Sadly not an issue for the smiling Shipping Minister!

Shingara
August 4, 2018, 06:49 AM
It’s already turned nasty in some areas. I don’t think much will happen as students don’t have power to do much. This movement does have some good aspects about. However I want this failure to hit Hasina and AL in the backside. But it won’t happen, even after the disaster like Rapa plaza is forgotten where her own goons were involved.

Adam bhai, ami to voy paisilam. Rapa plazay abar ki hoilo.

Ota Rana plaza chilo : )

DinRaat.
August 4, 2018, 07:45 AM
The morbid beauty of it is that, these students are getting beaten/killed for just a bit of transparency in the transport system. They just want safety when using these largely unregistered and unsafe buses, yet they are getting beaten and killed.

What a barbaric and backwards thinking governments(ALP and BNP)/people we are.

The situation is so ****ed up that, I have seen multiple bus vendors, having almost the same stops. I really want to know the thought processes of these so called ministers.

adamnsu
August 4, 2018, 09:56 AM
Adam bhai, ami to voy paisilam. Rapa plazay abar ki hoilo.

Ota Rana plaza chilo : )

Shingara bro thanks for clarification. Yes Rapa plaza is in dhanmondi.

Nafi
August 4, 2018, 10:40 AM
Is it true the government goons are gang raping the teenage girls?

ahnaf
August 4, 2018, 11:26 AM
Is it true the government goons are gang raping the teenage girls?

Thank Facebook for that along with our hujuge bangali mentality.

P.s. please don't post any such rumor & fabricated news here.

roman
August 4, 2018, 12:04 PM
Dont think thats rumor and fabricated news. Have seen several videos where girls are complaining that they have been sexually abused and 4 girls were raped.

patriot
August 4, 2018, 02:27 PM
What a douche Shakib was in that facebook video yesterday. Obviously he was instructed by our 'mother of humanity' prime minister to appeal to the students to leave the streets. It seriously backfired.

I am sure Mashrafee was asked to do the same but he refused.

Difference between an idiot and a leader.

adamnsu
August 4, 2018, 02:29 PM
https://youtu.be/IZcIBWvazfc

Ilyas Kanchan trying to put that crocked shameless laughing hyena Minsiter in his place.

Illyas has been advocating safer roads since 90s as his wife died and he nearly died.

adamnsu
August 4, 2018, 02:37 PM
What a douche Shakib was in that facebook video yesterday. Obviously he was instructed by our 'mother of humanity' prime minister to appeal to the students to leave the streets. It seriously backfired.

I am sure Mashrafee was asked to do the same but he refused.

Difference between an idiot and a leader.

Shakib took off his post after being murdered by criticism. As time goes on, Shakib becomes less likeable as a human being IMO.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thedailystar.net/sports/bangladesh-cricket/shakib-posts-video-message-following-backlash-1615747%3famp

bujhee kom
August 4, 2018, 02:47 PM
What a douche Shakib was in that facebook video yesterday. Obviously he was instructed by our 'mother of humanity' prime minister to appeal to the students to leave the streets. It seriously backfired.

I am sure Mashrafee was asked to do the same but he refused.

Difference between an idiot and a leader.

Shakib took off his post after being murdered by criticism. As time goes on, Shakib becomes less likeable as a human being IMO.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thedailystar.net/sports/bangladesh-cricket/shakib-posts-video-message-following-backlash-1615747%3famp

Shakib al Hasan is showing his true (low) class!
Whatever your true self is, it shall eventually be unmasked! It always does.

adamnsu
August 4, 2018, 02:49 PM
Shakib al Hasan is showing his low class!
Whatever your true self is, it shall eventually be unmasked! It always does.

Shakib initially looked like a decent and humble guy. Seems like he is another victim to stardom.

bujhee kom
August 4, 2018, 02:50 PM
https://youtu.be/IZcIBWvazfc

Ilyas Kanchan trying to put that crocked shameless laughing hyena Minsiter in his place.

Illyas has been advocating safer roads since 90s as his wife died and he nearly died.

I just saw the clip, thank you, Adam bhaiya.
Kanchan's approach, his voice in this matter, the good things he has been doing across the country and how he handled that low life of a so called 'minister' are absolutely admirable.

bujhee kom
August 4, 2018, 02:55 PM
Shakib initially looked like a decent and humble guy. Seems like he is another victim to stardom.
That's exactly what I meant. When people are 'empty' inside, there is no morale, no conscience, no empathy (which will prevent the growth of compassion in one's self) to begin with - and with that massive void inside, one day, all of sudden someone gets hold of a lot of money or power, they act like a headless fly over sh!t!
I am not ashamed to say this - very sadly, unfortunately, I have seen it in my very 'own' family.

adamnsu
August 4, 2018, 03:24 PM
Hasina now slowing down mobile internet so that videos can’t be uploaded and downloaded easily.

Joy Bangla for DEEZETAL BANGLADESH

https://www.thedailystar.net/country/bangladesh-mobile-internet-speed-brought-down-across-for-24hrs-1615909

Banglatiger84
August 4, 2018, 03:32 PM
Thank Facebook for that along with our hujuge bangali mentality.

P.s. please don't post any such rumor & fabricated news here.




Yes we all know BCL are angels, anyone mentioning anything to the contrary is showing "hujuge" mentality ....

adamnsu
August 4, 2018, 03:44 PM
Let’s hope the douche bag performs well today in the game

iDumb
August 4, 2018, 05:29 PM
Who says Bangladesh is losing identity going under hujurs ? This is Bangalees are all about. Fight for something so basic. Right to speak ur own laguaage . Right to a safer road . Right to live .

The real activist

ahnaf
August 4, 2018, 06:34 PM
Yes we all know BCL are angels, anyone mentioning anything to the contrary is showing "hujuge" mentality ....

Where exactly I have mentioned anything good about BCL? I have mentioned a specific incident as rumor. Nothing else. Pardon me for not believing everything thats gets posted in world's least trusted platform.

DinRaat.
August 4, 2018, 06:39 PM
If this isn't dictator like qualities from SH, I don't know what is.

iDumb
August 4, 2018, 06:48 PM
I have mentioned a specific incident as rumor. Nothing else. Pardon me for not believing everything thats gets posted in world's least trusted platform.

Not commenting on incidents but I agree with ahnaf. Whatever facebook newsfeed comes via share by your friends, one should be wary of and put their critical thinking cap on instead of blindly just going with the flow. Very important specially on active protests.

Try to answer Why? instead of what?

adamnsu
August 4, 2018, 07:23 PM
If this isn't dictator like qualities from SH, I don't know what is.

Bangladesh’s leaders since Ershad have been a dictatorship. Only difference is Hasina the most ruthless of them all

ToBeFair
August 5, 2018, 12:49 AM
Bangladesh’s leaders since Ershad have been a dictatorship. Only difference is Hasina the most ruthless of them all

Correct observation. RUTHLESS is the only word that can describe Hasina's second and third terms.

ahnaf
August 5, 2018, 01:54 AM
Not commenting on incidents but I agree with ahnaf. Whatever facebook newsfeed comes via share by your friends, one should be wary of and put their critical thinking cap on instead of blindly just going with the flow. Very important specially on active protests.

Try to answer Why? instead of what?

It's like people have been brainwashed. Apparently whole media is now working with govt. to suppress these incidents. Everyone except our brave social media detectives are corrupted. There is not a single good creditable newspaper/reporter left in the country.

anon4567
August 5, 2018, 02:26 AM
It's like people have been brainwashed. Apparently whole media is now working with govt. to suppress these incidents. Everyone except our brave social media detectives are corrupted. There is not a single good creditable newspaper/reporter left in the country.

Disgusting. I browsed through 4 Bangladeshi news channels for the past 2 days. None of it covering the actual protests by students (whereas BBC and SBS did). Govt. has asked News Channels not to broadcast any protests AFAIK.

Govt sent out text messages (https://www.reddit.com/r/bangladesh/comments/94nzgw/just_woke_up_to_this_government_propaganda_text/) early this morning claiming rape, killing and eye gouging allegations were rumors despite multiple graphic images being shared around FB, of a corpse, injured students bleeding, a school kid with his eyes gauged out... Police and Chatro League thugs beating up students. And today RAB arrested a few kids for spreading these "rumors".

I know it is bad right now, but we need to be brave and keep moving forward. The whole world is watching now.

mufi_02
August 5, 2018, 02:29 AM
And some people calling shakib “douchebag” and he’s saying his true colors. lol how ironic. He has done more for the country than all in this forum combined. It is very easy to sit behind a keyboard and call people names and critiize anyone. I won’t comment on hasina and bcl as im not in Dhaka. I only saw what’s being reported in news.

I know few will come at me and take offense. But I don’t care. They will call me names and douchebags and accuse me of showing my own true colors. So be it.

DinRaat.
August 5, 2018, 02:43 AM
Would love to see the face of my neighbour, who is the president of the Australian Bangladesh Chhatra league here in Sydney.

anon4567
August 5, 2018, 02:43 AM
@mufi_02



Shahadat Hossain took the first ODI hattrick for his country but sure, he was also a child abuser. He would have been jailed in the US or Australia. But.. but he's done a lot for his country, let's not call him names or criticize his actions OK.

Let's simply not care about these incidents.

DinRaat.
August 5, 2018, 02:44 AM
And some people calling shakib “douchebag” and he’s saying his true colors. lol how ironic. He has done more for the country than all in this forum combined. It is very easy to sit behind a keyboard and call people names and critiize anyone. I won’t comment on hasina and bcl as im not in Dhaka. I only saw what’s being reported in news.

I know few will come at me and take offense. But I don’t care. They will call me names and douchebags and accuse me of showing my own true colors. So be it.

A more logical thing would be to not comment on any senstive political issues.

DinRaat.
August 5, 2018, 03:10 AM
https://www.change.org/p/united-nations-enlist-bangladesh-chhatra-league-bcl-as-a-terrorist-organization?signed=true

Y'all might want to sign this

ahnaf
August 5, 2018, 03:12 AM
Disgusting. I browsed through 4 Bangladeshi news channels for the past 2 days. None of it covering the actual protests by students (whereas BBC and SBS did). Govt. has asked News Channels not to broadcast any protests AFAIK.

Govt sent out text messages (https://www.reddit.com/r/bangladesh/comments/94nzgw/just_woke_up_to_this_government_propaganda_text/) early this morning claiming rape, killing and eye gouging allegations were rumors despite multiple graphic images being shared around FB, of a corpse, injured students bleeding, a school kid with his eyes gauged out... Police and Chatro League thugs beating up students. And today RAB arrested a few kids for spreading these "rumors".

I know it is bad right now, but we need to be brave and keep moving forward. The whole world is watching now.

Except I or anyone I know of didn't received any such message.

Anyway, I don't have any intention to debate over this.

Let's just agree to disagree.

WorldCup11
August 5, 2018, 03:52 AM
Bangladesh will be great again.

anon4567
August 5, 2018, 03:57 AM
Interesting read. And we all know what happens to dictators who forcefully hold power in the age of social media from looking at Egypt and Libya.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/sheikh-hasina-turning-bangladesh-party-state-180404082024893.html

anon4567
August 5, 2018, 04:04 AM
Chatro League criminal scumbags armed with guns aiming at students


https://streamable.com/d6t9c

Jadukor
August 5, 2018, 04:43 AM
The situation is very volatile. I urge all not to post unsubstatiated news here and spread more misinformation. Only references to legitimate news sources will be allowed.

adamnsu
August 5, 2018, 04:59 AM
Would love to see the face of my neighbour, who is the president of the Australian Bangladesh Chhatra league here in Sydney.

Usually all are beshorom like the Shipping Mininster and blame the opposition for the chaos

adamnsu
August 5, 2018, 05:00 AM
The situation is very volatile. I urge all not to post unsubstatiated news here and spread more misinformation. Only references to legitimate news sources will be allowed.

I also agree, but a few here treat gossip as gospel.

adamnsu
August 5, 2018, 05:10 AM
People might do a lot in a particular field but personally they might not be so meritorious.

Maradonna, OJ Simpson, Tiger Woods and Oscar Pitorious are some examples.

Shakib personally is becoming less likeable as the days go on. His recent stunts with video messages is not winning him favours. He will still go down as Bangladesh’s best player but I just hope he doesn’t destroy his image like this.

I also think many of our Bangladesh players are too concerned of their social media image. Liton Das gave a video message to fans before the game. Why was this needed?

adamnsu
August 5, 2018, 05:30 AM
I fear for the safety of all. Just heard some of my relatives who live away from home and stay in Dhaka for educational purposes can’t safely go to their University to sit exams and attend classes.

May the All Mighty protect all.

adamnsu
August 5, 2018, 05:59 AM
US Ambassadors’ car attacked by group of men. This is seriously getting out of hand. AL could easily blame this on opposition.

What was the Ambassador doing in Mohammadpur? I am guessing it’s not for a quick snack of meat chap and kebabs at Geneva camp.

https://www.thedailystar.net/city/us-ambassadors-vehicle-attacked-dhaka-1616239

anon4567
August 5, 2018, 07:58 AM
I've been told by my family members and friends in Bangladesh that all news channels have almost entirely ignored the actual protests and the Chatro League+Police brutality.

I applaud The Daily Star for having the balls to do what the news channels wouldn't dare.
https://www.thedailystar.net/city/students-take-streets-science-lab-intersection-dhaka-safe-roads-demand-contal-traffic-for-8th-day-1616215

anon4567
August 5, 2018, 08:11 AM
US Ambassadors’ car attacked by group of men. This is seriously getting out of hand. AL could easily blame this on opposition.

It was most likely caused by Chatro League to pin it on the students. There have been several reports of Chatro League members posing as students and vandalising vehicles. I suspect that they have been instructed to do so. The guy who got caught is clearly just a pawn.

http://en.prothomalo.com/bangladesh/news/180818/BCL-man-vandalises-bus-amid-student-demonstration

There interestingly has been an increase in the sales of generic school dresses, as I read earlier. I can't seem to find this report now though.

DinRaat.
August 5, 2018, 08:20 AM
The only people who can repair this country are expatriates that have left and gotten degrees abroad.

We need the cream of the crop to return to the motherland and do something.

adamnsu
August 5, 2018, 08:43 AM
It was most likely caused by Chatro League to pin it on the students. There have been several reports of Chatro League members posing as students and vandalising vehicles. I suspect that they have been instructed to do so. The guy who got caught is clearly just a pawn.

http://en.prothomalo.com/bangladesh/news/180818/BCL-man-vandalises-bus-amid-student-demonstration

There interestingly has been an increase in the sales of generic school dresses, as I read earlier. I can't seem to find this report now though.

Imo isn’t working today for me. Although using other means possible. So much for DEEZETAL BANGLADESH

adamnsu
August 5, 2018, 08:47 AM
The only people who can repair this country are expatriates that have left and gotten degrees abroad.

We need the cream of the crop to return to the motherland and do something.

You can’t repair a country that doesn’t accept good change. We had all these corrupt politicians in jail like dogs in the kennel. What did the people do? Bring them back in power

And you are totally disregarding the efforts of our own kids. Aren’t they trying to repair something?

DinRaat.
August 5, 2018, 08:56 AM
You can’t repair a country that doesn’t accept good change. We had all these corrupt politicians in jail like dogs in the kennel. What did the people do? Bring them back in power

And you are totally disregarding the efforts of our own kids. Aren’t they trying to repair something?

That's, because Bangladesh is ruled by old men, who believe in short term gain,long term loss. I definitely agree with you on the last part.

Protests like these need to send a message to the government or else we will be back to square one tomorrow

DinRaat.
August 5, 2018, 09:09 AM
What Bangladesh need is a Justin Trudeau someone fresh, relatively wealthy yet uncorruptable, someone who is educated, knows politics and take the fight to BNP and ALP. I know this sounds like a job ad, but the ideal candidate will have good public rapport especially with the young generation and university educated citizens.

We need a 3rd party, the BNP/ALP rhetoric is becoming dangerous for the country. I

roman
August 5, 2018, 09:16 AM
What Bangladesh need is a Justin Trudeau someone fresh, relatively wealthy yet uncorruptable, someone who is educated, knows politics and take the fight to BNP and ALP. I know this sounds like a job ad, but the ideal candidate will have good public rapport especially with the young generation and university educated citizens.

We need a 3rd party, the BNP/ALP rhetoric is becoming dangerous for the country. I

Majority of our population is illiterate and those who are somewhat literate can only read and write very basic things. So just by having good rapport with school/university students wont take you to power. You also need support from farmers and labors. Otherwise no chance.

Prof. Yunus tried to form a 3rd party. And we all know how he was humiliated and ridiculed by illiterate goons of BAL.
3rd party is not happening

anon4567
August 5, 2018, 09:18 AM
Here's how a top Govt. Minister responded to the accusations about BCL and govt. goons inciting violence on protesters -

Should we kiss away attacks on our offices? asks Quader
Asked about the violence in the Jigatala area, he said: "If someone advances towards the Awami League offices firing bullets, should they be met with kisses? Or should they be met with force?"

This is simply pure evil, making baseless claims and justifying BCL violence. He also labelled all the protesters affiliated with BNP and Jamat. Spoken like a true illiterate.

https://m.bdnews24.com/en/detail/politics/1526336?

DinRaat.
August 5, 2018, 09:22 AM
Feel sorry for the people who have to wake up everyday and discover that they live in Bangladesh.

adamnsu
August 5, 2018, 09:32 AM
What Bangladesh need is a Justin Trudeau someone fresh, relatively wealthy yet uncorruptable, someone who is educated, knows politics and take the fight to BNP and ALP. I know this sounds like a job ad, but the ideal candidate will have good public rapport especially with the young generation and university educated citizens.

We need a 3rd party, the BNP/ALP rhetoric is becoming dangerous for the country. I

Most politicians by default are wealthy in Bangladesh and have to be corrupted if they want to win. Not many politicians these days are illiterate. Also the MPs that make it know how to win. Newbies have little chance in getting a place in MP as they have less face time with voters.

Based on your points I think you don’t have a correct idea of Bangladeshi politics. Because it’s not as progressive as in the Western world

anon4567
August 5, 2018, 10:10 AM
BCL organized an event to identify everyone spreading news about the protests and handing over information to the Police so they could be arrested too for "spreading rumors".

This is sickening.

https://m.imgur.com/a/WqOYaPy

SportingBD
August 5, 2018, 10:26 AM
Sheikh Hasina is a dictator. Brutal. Power hungry women.

simon
August 5, 2018, 12:51 PM
Mushy should feel proud now for being called a "Schoolboy" by Ishant.

Nafi
August 5, 2018, 01:17 PM
And some people calling shakib “douchebag” and he’s saying his true colors. lol how ironic. He has done more for the country than all in this forum combined.

Most of us arent even Bangladeshi citizens. :facepalm:

mufi_02
August 5, 2018, 01:58 PM
@mufi_02



Shahadat Hossain took the first ODI hattrick for his country but sure, he was also a child abuser. He would have been jailed in the US or Australia. But.. but he's done a lot for his country, let's not call him names or criticize his actions OK.

Let's simply not care about these incidents.

are you seriously comparing Rajib physically beating a child and Shakib writing a facebook post?

I am done with this conversation here. You guys carry on.

anon4567
August 5, 2018, 06:08 PM
warning notice from information ministry of Bangladesh to "Channel 71" news channel regarding publishing content in 1/8/18 and 2/8/18 according to a law which is not finalized yet but drafted in 2015 by the government who are in power without election. (https://www.reddit.com/r/bangladesh/comments/94tmxy/warning_notice_from_information_ministry_of/)

anon4567
August 5, 2018, 06:11 PM
Guys can you please report this event on Facebook (As harrassing a friend). It's organized by BCL to doxx people posting on FB about BCL and Police brutality.

https://www.facebook.com/events/467958480345305/?active_tab=discussion

anon4567
August 5, 2018, 07:13 PM
Keeps escalating further. Renowned freelance photographer Shahidul Alam, founder of Drik (who interviewed with Al Jazeera recently (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157182907939240&id=834334239)) who also had his camera broken by BCL thugs, got picked up from his home by Policemen men in white shirts over his FB posts regarding the protests.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/dhaka/2018/08/05/photographer-shahidul-alam-picked-up-from-his-home

anon4567
August 5, 2018, 07:19 PM
According to our country's history, our war for independence was motivated by similar abuse of power by the govt and by brutal handling of protests. How stupid is the current govt to do the same thing again.

If you are in NYC, please consider attending this protest outside of Bangladeshi consulate.
https://www.facebook.com/events/483493125411051/

ToBeFair
August 6, 2018, 12:49 AM
Link (http://www.prothomalo.com/bangladesh/article/1547951/%E0%A6%8F%E0%A6%95-%E0%A6%B9%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BE%E0%A 6%95%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%80%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%9A%E0%A7%9F-%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%B2%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%9B%E0%A 7%87)

Check the guy on the right with helmet.

MashaAllah sei rokom bowling practice cholce. Will put our national bowlers in SHAME.

anon4567
August 6, 2018, 12:55 AM
https://www.facebook.com/events/467958480345305/?active_tab=discussion

Guys protestors are being doxxed right now by BCL. They will all be handed over to the Police. Please report this event asap. It goes against Facebook's policies.

adamnsu
August 6, 2018, 03:22 AM
I think the inertia of this dying down. BCL comes to the rescue of AL.

anon4567
August 6, 2018, 03:46 AM
The whole state of the county reminds me of V for Vendetta. The protests will not die out. BCL are the minority, students are many, and they are all pissed.

Students from Dhaka University have been attacked by BCL goons just because they were peacefully protesting. Same for many private uni students like NSU, Eastwest, etc. Some friends I know on Facebook have suffered injuries yesterday. It's like we are back to 1952, 1971.

Us expats have a huge role to play too. Keep this going live on Reddit and Facebook. The more exposure this gets, the world could see how backwards our govt is. People from EU, USA, UK, Australia are all signing that petition now to UN, identifying BCL as a terrorist organization.

adamnsu
August 6, 2018, 03:51 AM
The whole state of the county reminds me of V for Vendetta. The protests will not die out. BCL are the minority, students are many, and they are all pissed.

Students from Dhaka University have been attacked by BCL goons just because they were peacefully protesting. Same for many private uni students like NSU, Eastwest, etc. Some friends I know on Facebook have suffered injuries yesterday. It's like we are back to 1952, 1971.

But the students dont have weapons unlike the BCL does and protection from police. Also the pvt uni students will have to sit exams too.

But the reference to 1952 and 1971 isnt far off. Sheikh Mujib must be turning in his grave. I am sure a pure patriot like him would never want to see Bangladesh suffer like this :(

Mas_UK25
August 6, 2018, 03:54 AM
What tf is happening man!! Have they all turned into zombies? Why the heck the stupid cops firing at them? And these bcl ruling party student leagues goons attacking students! Why is this country so corrupt? Whoever comes in does the same old repeat of all sorts of corruption, anything to stay in power!!!

This is such time when you need an army to step in and control situations! Because these police are worse and corrupt. Ruling party whoever comes in are corrupt. Cannot simply alllow nor hold a peacefully protest, demonstration, no democracy!!!

People dying left right and centre. Students the future of country, died in such ways, road accidents everyday norm without any fix. Is there anything normal there? I pray both these witches and their corrupt members expire asap.

Bangladesh be better under rhe military. Imo!

anon4567
August 6, 2018, 03:58 AM
Govt propaganda
https://youtu.be/okFObep4btY
They are claiming the students attacked BCL office. And the kids who got their eyes gouged out were BCL members (despite wearing high school uniforms!!)

adamnsu
August 6, 2018, 04:05 AM
Its like a situation that Palestinians supporters have to face it seems against Settlers who are armed right under the noses of their police .

anon4567
August 6, 2018, 04:35 AM
Guys EastWest University at Banani was attacked today. Armed BCL goons breached the university gates, Police assisted them by shooting tear shells inside the university, at innocent students.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1725455687571868&id=1222414774542631

Some EastWest students were injured in the incident. This is from their official Facebook page.

NSU is also currently in a lockdown.

adamnsu
August 6, 2018, 04:41 AM
Guys EastWest University at Banani was attacked today. Armed BCL goons breached the university gates, Police assisted them by shooting tear shells inside the university, at innocent students.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1725455687571868&id=1222414774542631

Some EastWest students were injured in the incident. This is from their official Facebook page.

NSU is also currently in a lockdown.

Really unsafe and worrying times if you are a student. I think anyone who is of a certain age group will be attacked if they run into these goons

Mas_UK25
August 6, 2018, 05:41 AM
Their bcl goons student wings, seem like doing what party can’t do legally and these zombies seem to think the world isn’t watching and this is 1970s! They’re trying to cripple the country, depriving the country of good students by damaging the ones who they find threat? No deference than what happen in history.

Hasina go to h.ll

SportingBD
August 6, 2018, 06:11 AM
Attacking students and journalist? What kind of democracy is this?

Suppressing the media?

Sheikh Hasina is a brutal lady.

anon4567
August 6, 2018, 06:22 AM
Police and armed BCL goons attack North South University, injured students can be seen.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1900388666688117&id=100001510069859

40 students injured. I have mad respect for the journalists at The Daily Star. They deserve world recognition for their bravery when other news channels are broadcasting news on "batabi lebur bumper folon at Dinajpur".

https://www.thedailystar.net/city/north-south-university-nsu-students-comes-under-attack-on-campus-demanding-justice-for-safe-road-1616668

adamnsu
August 6, 2018, 07:40 AM
Police and armed BCL goons attack North South University, injured students can be seen.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1900388666688117&id=100001510069859

40 students injured. I have mad respect for the journalists at The Daily Star. They deserve world recognition for their bravery when other news channels are broadcasting news on "batabi lebur bumper folon at Dinajpur".

https://www.thedailystar.net/city/north-south-university-nsu-students-comes-under-attack-on-campus-demanding-justice-for-safe-road-1616668

Things are getting worse. I wonder who ordered the hot on NSU

PoorFan
August 6, 2018, 08:16 AM
Feel sorry for the people who have to wake up everyday and discover that they live in Bangladesh.

Feel sorry for you instead, think twice before making such nonsense.

anon4567
August 6, 2018, 08:33 AM
Things are getting worse. I wonder who ordered the hot on NSU

From what I gather

Police took their positons at first near NSU, heavily armed. They brought in armoured vehicles as well, so that students can't start a protest at NSU. Students still protested (peacefully) but was met with disproportionate force by the Police and BCL goons. 40+ students had been injured in the clash as linked in the previous Daily Star article.

It seems like BCL are accompanied by the Police. The Police haven't stopped the BCL while they were trying to break into NSU by breaching the gates, despite having a heavy presence in that location. NSU went into a lockdown earlier.

At EastWest Uni Police fired tear gas inside the campus to keep students locked in. But didn't resist BCL trying to break into their uni despite being there. See earlier post.

This level of brutality to a peaceful protest was last displayed in 1952 and 1971 by Pakistan. And we all know how it ended for them.

anon4567
August 6, 2018, 08:43 AM
People were able to get a quick footage of Police brutality first hand.

Renowned freelance photographer Shahidul Alam claims that he was denied a lawyer by DMP and was tortured in Police custody.
https://streamable.com/u3zy5

Please keep following this on Reddit Live
https://www.reddit.com/live/11e4mknpbhjqr

adamnsu
August 6, 2018, 08:47 AM
From what I gather

Police took their positons at first near NSU, heavily armed. They brought in armoured vehicles as well, so that students can't start a protest at NSU. Students still protested (peacefully) but was met with disproportionate force by the Police and BCL goons. 40+ students had been injured in the clash as linked in the previous Daily Star article.

It seems like BCL are accompanied by the Police. The Police haven't stopped the BCL while they were trying to break into NSU by breaching the gates, despite having a heavy presence in that location. NSU went into a lockdown earlier.



The photos and pictures I have seen look like a bomb site. Police could easily play the jongi card.

Sadly there will be some section of the community who will be pleased this happened to NSU as they have a negative bias towards the uni.

ahnaf
August 6, 2018, 09:21 AM
Things are getting worse. I wonder who ordered the hot on NSU

Barring one or two incident things are almost normal now. Students have agreed to go back to school as they are satisfied with the new law which was approved in state cabinet meeting.

adamnsu
August 6, 2018, 09:51 AM
Barring one or two incident things are almost normal now. Students have agreed to go back to school as they are satisfied with the new which was approved in state cabinet meeting.

It would be good if things are normal. Bus services are expected to start again. However this attack on private unis makes it sound situation is now worse.

ahnaf
August 6, 2018, 09:58 AM
It would be good if things are normal. Bus services are expected to start again. However this attack on private unis makes it sound situation is now worse.

I would say these were isloted incidents.

Bus services have already started. Will take a while though to get back at normal speed.

bujhee kom
August 6, 2018, 10:09 AM
All my dear bhaiyas and apus,
Just so that you all know, I know our dear Ahnaf very well.
I wanted to share something with you all. Ahnaf's own dear little brother died in road accident (truck or car incident) in Dhaka just a couple of years ago. He is a great moderator like all our moderators, he is very level headed, conscientious and looks at life with a very positive and neutral view. Please don't read him wrong.

Ahnaf, I hope you don't mind sharing this in the thread with all our members.

tonmoy.dhaka
August 6, 2018, 10:16 AM
Quick Question : I heard the Government accepted all the demands, the students also agreed to stop the protest for 3 days to see if Govt is keeping their words... so why is this protest still going on?

anon4567
August 6, 2018, 10:25 AM
Quick Question : I heard the Government accepted all the demands, the students also agreed to stop the protest for 3 days to see if Govt is keeping their words... so why is this protest still going on?

This govt has a poor track record of following through with their promise, as seen in the quota reform movements. The whole issue got swept under the rug by the govt. Last week a corpse of a senior figure leading the quota reform movement against the govt was found floating in the river.

The same will happen in this scenario. A promise from the Bangladeshi govt is meaningless unless some serious changes are made- i.e. minister in charge stepping down.

And furthermore BCL goons and Police escalated the issue further by attacking the peaceful protestors. Canadian High Commission has condemned the govts disproportionate use of force (refer to their official FB page post).

anon4567
August 6, 2018, 10:31 AM
BCL started doxxing protestors, many of them children. Given their savagery, I can almost guarantee that some of those corpses would also turn up if the protesters went home.

The current traffic chaos and irregularities in Bangladesh are a huge source of illigitimate income for the Bangladeshi Police and the govt. do you really think they want that taken away from them?

anon4567
August 6, 2018, 10:37 AM
Of course you can choose to watch news about Batabi lebu harvest on Dinajpur. But I know what my friends are posting. Many of them attend top public and private Unis in Bangladesh. Many were in the DU protests yesterday and were caught up at NSU today. And I would take their words over BTV news' on a heartbeat.

simon
August 6, 2018, 10:49 AM
Barring one or two incident things are almost normal now. Students have agreed to go back to school as they are satisfied with the new law which was approved in state cabinet meeting.

Alhamdulillah..that is good to know.

PoorFan
August 6, 2018, 10:58 AM
.... Last week a corpse of a senior figure leading the quota reform movement against the govt was found floating in the river.



BCL started doxxing protestors, many of them children. Given their savagery, I can almost guarantee that some of those corpses would also turn up if the protesters went home.



Of course you can choose to watch news about Batabi lebu harvest on Dinajpur. But I know what my friends are posting. Many of them attend top public and private Unis in Bangladesh. Many were in the DU protests yesterday and were caught up at NSU today. And I would take their words over BTV news' on a heartbeat.

Anon, I think we had enough of your 'social media input' here on BC, its time you take a break and let other to educate themselves from whatever source they think is reliable.

patriot
August 6, 2018, 11:02 AM
Barring one or two incident things are almost normal now. Students have agreed to go back to school as they are satisfied with the new law which was approved in state cabinet meeting.

You sound like a BCL spokesperson.

"Barring one or two incidents, things ate almost normal". Lol, seriously?

How about you switch off BTV and go outside.
Things are so normal that someone like Shahidul Alam was tortured last night and taken for a further 6-7 day remand for speaking his mind in a supossedly democratic country.

"Students have agreed to back to school as they are SATISFIED"

Stop embarassing yourself mate. Seriously stop. Have you seen what what BCL goons did to those students protesting? Do you have an ounce of humanity in you? Students have brutally beaten and allegedly raped by BCL. These kids are scared for their lives to go back to the streets again.

roman
August 6, 2018, 11:02 AM
Please let anon talk

tonmoy.dhaka
August 6, 2018, 11:13 AM
My 2 cents.
1/ If the government accepted all the demands (which I believe is the case) than the students should provide a timeline for the implementation and continue the protest if the promise is not met. Everyone in the world would support that.

2/ If the government is unreliable and cannot be trusted, than the demand should not be for safe road but rather for resignation of the government and it should be a different movement altogether.

3/ Also AL must force that abomination (Shahjahan Khan ) to resign.

anon4567
August 6, 2018, 11:28 AM
BTV has always been a propaganda machine for the govt in power.

http://en.prothomalo.com/bangladesh/news/181143/How-BCL-attacks-were-carried-out

BCL men were backed up by Police. Prothom Alo and The Dailystar deserves to be recognized for their bravery, doing what 60+ channels in Bangladesh is too scared to do. This is what real journalism is about, being brave and defiant.

I'm done posting here. Follow the Live Reddit link I provided above for the truth.

adamnsu
August 6, 2018, 11:28 AM
My 2 cents.
1/ If the government accepted all the demands (which I believe is the case) than the students should provide a timeline for the implementation and continue the protest if the promise is not met. Everyone in the world would support that.

This is just the government crossing their fingers. I dont think there is a main leader to suggest a timeline, these are pre uni students. They know that this government of all cannot be trusted.


2/ If the government is unreliable and cannot be trusted, than the demand should not be for safe road but rather for resignation of the government and it should be a different movement altogether.



3/ Also AL must force that abomination (Shahjahan Khan ) to resign. This would have been the most likely but the media have moved away their focus from his stained white teeth



IMO i think students will eventually go back to their normal business. And AL would have surfed another wave over. TBH the world doesnt give an F about these students sorry to say

ahnaf
August 6, 2018, 11:47 AM
You sound like a BCL spokesperson.

"Barring one or two incidents, things ate almost normal". Lol, seriously?

How about you switch off BTV and go outside.
Things are so normal that someone like Shahidul Alam was tortured last night and taken for a further 6-7 day remand for speaking his mind in a supossedly democratic country.

"Students have agreed to back to school as they are SATISFIED"

Stop embarassing yourself mate. Seriously stop. Have you seen what what BCL goons did to those students protesting? Do you have an ounce of humanity in you? Students have brutally beaten and allegedly raped by BCL. These kids are scared for their lives to go back to the streets again.

If you cant talk like a civilized person don't bother to quote me again.

Unlike you i do actually live here. So yeah. i do know a lot about whats going on here.

And lastly try to stop spending too much time on social media.

Take care.

iDumb
August 6, 2018, 01:27 PM
Please let anon talk

this. I do not understand this censorship by Banglacricket. Let convo take its own course. Also what was that other thread closed saying BC is not platform for this or that. Too much innapropriate mod hand for my liking.

having said that censorship can occur to stop spread of fake news.. but not appropriate opinion.

WorldCup11
August 6, 2018, 02:37 PM
Please let anon talk

Why he should talk? All BAL and BCL wants is just Chumma. Give them what they want, if you can't then send BCs Chumma specialist BK bhai and don't misuse "freedom to talk" demanding "Safe Roads".

Roads will never be safe as long as goons are at the road. Got the point?

Banglatiger84
August 6, 2018, 03:24 PM
If you cant talk like a civilized person don't bother to quote me again.

Unlike you i do actually live here. So yeah. i do know a lot about whats going on here.

And lastly try to stop spending too much time on social media.

Take care.


There are more than a few people living in Dhaka, whose accounts of what happened are completely different from yours....

Banglatiger84
August 6, 2018, 03:26 PM
. Have you seen what what BCL goons did to those students protesting? Do you have an ounce of humanity in you? Students have brutally beaten and allegedly raped by BCL. These kids are scared for their lives to go back to the streets again.


you are just talking based on what you saw on social media, most of which may not be true....



Those videos of Shahidul Alam arrested are just doctored stuff aimed at fooling expat Bangladeshis like us.......

anon4567
August 6, 2018, 05:26 PM
you are just talking based on what you saw on social media, most of which may not be true....



Those videos of Shahidul Alam arrested are just doctored stuff aimed at fooling expat Bangladeshis like us.......

Except DMP officially confirmed that he was arrested on a press statement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/08/06/bangladeshi-photographer-shahidul-alam-arrested-over-provocative-comments/

Naimul_Hd
August 6, 2018, 10:38 PM
Another good justified protest just died due to political interference. It was all good first 4-5 days where school students showed us how to control the road, how ministers, police and govt officials drive without any proper documents. They were successful to show if we have good intention we can do anything.

Things went out of hand when students did not leave the streets even after the Govt accepted their demands and this got worse when PM asked BCL to take charge of the protest. By then private university students got involved too. Things got nasty and politicized from thereon. BCL started attacking students and then students retaliated. This gave a good opportunity to BCD and they got involved too. BCD know people will only blame to BCL and govt.

It was a bad move by Hasina to get this movement out of hand. What I believe she did not expect this movement to spread that much and underestimated school students. She could easily handled this better by coming to the students and talk with them directly and ordering BRTC and other bus owners to upgrade their vehicle and have proper license for their bus and their drivers. That would have been worked for BAL but now Hasina is the only one to blame and this govt will face it's consequences.

ahnaf
August 6, 2018, 11:20 PM
You guys don't really read before posting. Do you? My initial response was regarding news coming from social media detectives not actual newspaper.

Anyway, this will be my last post on this thread.

Banglatiger84
August 6, 2018, 11:59 PM
Except DMP officially confirmed that he was arrested on a press statement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/08/06/bangladeshi-photographer-shahidul-alam-arrested-over-provocative-comments/

I know, I just said it in frustration at those who are claiming all is well....

When armed goons are set on high school students with the police protecting the armed thugs, of course a protest will die down

But to claim all is well because of that, is an insult to those who were injured...


As for only using official newspapers as a source, it will not work when the government forces the media to toe a particular line... And we can see very well what happens to journalists who do not toe that line e

That is when social media comes into play..

anon4567
August 7, 2018, 12:16 AM
How can people claim things are still fine? Esp. people living in Bangladesh. Bashundhara turned into a battlefield yesterday, students are being critically wounded just for peacefully protesting.

Canada, UN, Amnesty (https://www.thedailystar.net/news/city/bangladesh-road-safety-movement-2018-canada-condemns-violence-against-students-1616884) have condemned the disproportionate violent response from the Bangladeshi govt toward the protesters. Do you honestly believe Canada are spreading rumors and the Bangladeshi govt is telling the truth?

Most universities in the country are closed now.

Shahedul Alam along with many students have been arrested by the Police.

https://www.thedailystar.net/city/north-south-university-nsu-students-comes-under-attack-on-campus-demanding-justice-for-safe-road-1616668

anon4567
August 7, 2018, 12:23 AM
Just read the articles I linked. Police and BCL goons were working together. Police didn't oppose BCL members attacking unarmed protesters and vandalising EastWest University. Cameras have also been seized from freelance photographers.

I have barely posted anything here without referring to news articles from well recognized news sources in the country.

Keep in mind that the Arab Spring was fuelled by social media too.

anon4567
August 7, 2018, 02:07 AM
https://i.redd.it/7lrikw5pcle11.jpg

The guy in the white shirt and lungi is a part of Dhaka Metro Police SWAT, clearly

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 03:14 AM
https://i.redd.it/7lrikw5pcle11.jpg

The guy in the white shirt and lungi is a part of Dhaka Metro Police SWAT, clearly

He is either undercover or his laundry was closed due to the unrest

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 03:16 AM
It seems some protests have been dealt civilly with no attacks by the law enforcers

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/dhaka/2018/08/06/police-bar-bracu-students-from-occupying-street

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 04:15 AM
It was a bad move by Hasina to get this movement out of hand. What I believe she did not expect this movement to spread that much and underestimated school students. She could easily handled this better by coming to the students and talk with them directly and ordering BRTC and other bus owners to upgrade their vehicle and have proper license for their bus and their drivers. That would have been worked for BAL but now Hasina is the only one to blame and this govt will face it's consequences.

I agree that Hasina has handled this quite poorly and could have handled it better, not only for her but also for the overall situation in the country. I think she has mentally become like a tyrant in the past few years just to hang onto power. Her use of physical and brute force against unarmed school kids is evidence to what her current state of mind is.

ToBeFair
August 7, 2018, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Naimul_Hd
It was a bad move by Hasina to get this movement out of hand. What I believe she did not expect this movement to spread that much and underestimated school students. She could easily handled this better by coming to the students and talk with them directly and ordering BRTC and other bus owners to upgrade their vehicle and have proper license for their bus and their drivers. That would have been worked for BAL but now Hasina is the only one to blame and this govt will face it's consequences. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
The problem is, when someone is in power, they become intoxicated and they start living in a bubble. That is why, what everyone can see and perceive easily, the people in power cannot perceive and see that. Therefore they fail to act sensibly. Sheikh Hasina was a much more malleable personality when she first came to power in 1996, and but when she got back to power for the second time, she knew that it could be her last hold to power (if you consider her age), and thus she ruled with an iron-fist. It is do or die for her now. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Also another reason why rulers often fail to do sensible things is because holding onto power requires buying loyalty of many factions. In the recent scenario – what is more important for Sheikh Hasina? Public safety or the loyalty of Shahjahan Khan – the union leader who has massive influence over workers? Definitely, she needs the later. It is thus no surprise that she ruled in favor of S Khan. Same happened with the quota andolon. The government needs to keep 55% of government jobs under quota because when MPs come to power, they have to give back favor to people who shouldered them to power, and a govt job is a powerful give-away. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
It is not only Sheikh Hasina who is living in the bubble. Khaleda Zia - for example (and you can also take the example of Nawaz Sharif and his daughter's recent return to jail), could have lived happily the rest of her life in England with her son and grand children, but she came back. Why? Two reasons (1) She still lives in her delusional bubble where she thought millions will come to the streets for her release, and return to BD was a big mistake similar to scale of boycotting 2014 election (2) most politicians, once they taste power, until their last breath cannot relinquish the dream of sitting on the chair again. K Zia still dreams of becoming the PM of BD before her death, and she does not want to become PM for any meaningful vision for BD or BD people. It is all about self-aggrandizement. We have seen similar behavioral patterns from many leaders – Robert Mugabe, Hillary Clinton, Narendra Modi, and Nawaz Sharif. It is all about me – mentality. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Despite everything, I predict Hasina and BAL will remain in power for the foreseeable future in BD (and I could be wrong) because of lack of populist politics/politicians.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
If you want to oust a dictator or the ruling establishment, you need a politician who is a populist, and who is not seeking power for self-aggrandizement alone. Granted, when you are seeking power, there will be elements of self-aggrandizement, but to win, you will have to fake populism no matter what is your true objective. You have to be a very good/smart actor. In those regards, Obama and Trump for instance were very good and they won. Hillary on the other hand, could not hide her self-aggrandizement at all – even her slogan was “I am with HER”. It was all about her and not the US people and thus she lost. It is simple. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Also populism is how Erdogan and Putin for example, even though both of them show pure self-aggrandizement now, came to power. Their initial populism won the hearts of people, and transformed their respective countries – whether you like the transformation or not is a separate issue. But they were transformative leaders. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
BNP had 11 years to make a comeback. They should have started populist politics. They did not. The whole party lived in the delusion of old style politics – but with the young generation, it did not work. Young people want solid policy proposal. They do not care who is the leader or PM. They care about policies. Everyone wants to know what is there for him or her. When they knew that there was nothing for them, they unsurprisingly showed total apathy to the party. BNP can only blame itself for failing to abandon their old self-aggrandizement politics and build a populist movement. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
For any party to make a comeback now in BD, they must start populist, social democratic, progressive politics. It will not be easy. It took 20 years to Imran Khan to come to power (and that too with military backing). But the work must start now. Otherwise, sporadic andolons will not move the ruling elites. <o:p></o:p>

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 05:22 AM
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
The problem is, when someone is in power, they become intoxicated and they start living in a bubble. That is why, what everyone can see and perceive easily, the people in power cannot perceive and see that. Therefore they fail to act sensibly. Sheikh Hasina was a much more malleable personality when she first came to power in 1996, and but when she got back to power for the second time, she knew that it could be her last hold to power (if you consider her age), and thus she ruled with an iron-fist. It is do or die for her now. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Also another reason why rulers often fail to do sensible things is because holding onto power requires buying loyalty of many factions. In the recent scenario – what is more important for Sheikh Hasina? Public safety or the loyalty of Shahjahan Khan – the union leader who has massive influence over workers? Definitely, she needs the later. It is thus no surprise that she ruled in favor of S Khan. Same happened with the quota andolon. The government needs to keep 55% of government jobs under quota because when MPs come to power, they have to give back favor to people who shouldered them to power, and a govt job is a powerful give-away. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
It is not only Sheikh Hasina who is living in the bubble. Khaleda Zia - for example (and you can also take the example of Nawaz Sharif and his daughter's recent return to jail), could have lived happily the rest of her life in England with her son and grand children, but she came back. Why? Two reasons (1) She still lives in her delusional bubble where she thought millions will come to the streets for her release, and return to BD was a big mistake similar to scale of boycotting 2014 election (2) most politicians, once they taste power, until their last breath cannot relinquish the dream of sitting on the chair again. K Zia still dreams of becoming the PM of BD before her death, and she does not want to become PM for any meaningful vision for BD or BD people. It is all about self-aggrandizement. We have seen similar behavioral patterns from many leaders – Robert Mugabe, Hillary Clinton, Narendra Modi, and Nawaz Sharif. It is all about me – mentality. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Despite everything, I predict Hasina and BAL will remain in power for the foreseeable future in BD (and I could be wrong) because of lack of populist politics/politicians.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
If you want to oust a dictator or the ruling establishment, you need a politician who is a populist, and who is not seeking power for self-aggrandizement alone. Granted, when you are seeking power, there will be elements of self-aggrandizement, but to win, you will have to fake populism no matter what is your true objective. You have to be a very good/smart actor. In those regards, Obama and Trump for instance were very good and they won. Hillary on the other hand, could not hide her self-aggrandizement at all – even her slogan was “I am with HER”. It was all about her and not the US people and thus she lost. It is simple. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Also populism is how Erdogan and Putin for example, even though both of them show pure self-aggrandizement now, came to power. Their initial populism won the hearts of people, and transformed their respective countries – whether you like the transformation or not is a separate issue. But they were transformative leaders. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
BNP had 11 years to make a comeback. They should have started populist politics. They did not. The whole party lived in the delusion of old style politics – but with the young generation, it did not work. Young people want solid policy proposal. They do not care who is the leader or PM. They care about policies. Everyone wants to know what is there for him or her. When they knew that there was nothing for them, they unsurprisingly showed total apathy to the party. BNP can only blame itself for failing to abandon their old self-aggrandizement politics and build a populist movement. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
For any party to make a comeback now in BD, they must start populist, social democratic, progressive politics. It will not be easy. It took 20 years to Imran Khan to come to power (and that too with military backing). But the work must start now. Otherwise, sporadic andolons will not move the ruling elites. <o:p></o:p>

Alot of good points written in here. I can see now why Hasina keeping mouth shut about that swine of a Minister Shahajahan. Another ousting route would have been army coup but Hasina has managed to penetrate that. Hasina will unfortunately remain in power for another term unless something drastically happens and no new or old power can stop that.

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 07:53 AM
Heard some fan asked Shakib in relation to the Safe Roads protests and Shakib tried to attack the guy. There is a video of this as well.

Dont know facts yet but has anyone else heard the same.

bujhee kom
August 7, 2018, 08:12 AM
Most disappointed at our Prime Minister. I expected better from her!
The government has been extremely disappointing.

These BCL youths of today that are acting in such ruthless terrorist manner are a disgrace to their predecessors of a few decades ago. It was once a youth/student organization that took a valiant part in the liberation war of this country. What a shame that the Prime Minister is not taking control of them and NOT realizing that all Bangladeshi youths and students are her children, her responsibility whether they are a part of BCL or not.

mufi_02
August 7, 2018, 08:21 AM
this protest may die down soon. but I am afraid this is the beginning of the end. many people may not have cared to vote for next year's election and would have been apathetic to whoever wins. but the way Hasina handled this and unleashed BCL will clearly have an impact and people will remember this. Esp the young people.

forget about 3rd party, its crazy how there is no viable 2nd party either anymore.

bujhee kom
August 7, 2018, 08:24 AM
And thuggy mentality, this gang mentality is a clear reflection of a people that lack sophistication, Period! You cannot engage in a discourse in a polite, civil engaging manner and cannot take constructive criticism - then you simply are a savage! Our BC has plenty of examples of that, including older and new members!
*Older meaning been around this forum for a long time and New meaning joined in recent times (whether new account, previously banned or not)

bujhee kom
August 7, 2018, 08:26 AM
Yes, people remember everything you say or do.
Life works like this: Every action (if ill) you take in life will eventually come back to haunt you.


Most of us often forget that nothing lasts forever, and nobody lives forever.


BTW, guys - this maybe my very last post in BC! I have been waiting for this for 11 years. I have made a 'Savant' - I reached my goal in this sad thread - got my 25,000 posts in BC.
I am logging out, and if I don't come back due to life's other calls, I wish you all my dear BC brothers and sisters, Bangladesh youths and cricket all the best! You guys are the best!

What a (strange) trip it has been - Jerry Garcia

One World
August 7, 2018, 08:45 AM
Good bye BK, have a life now ;)

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 09:10 AM
Yes, people remember everything you say or do.
Life works like this: Every action (if ill) you take in life will eventually come back to haunt you.


Most of us often forget that nothing lasts forever, and nobody lives forever.


BTW, guys - this maybe my very last post in BC! I have been waiting for this for 11 years. I have made a 'Savant' - I reached my goal in this sad thread - got my 25,000 posts in BC.
I am logging out, and if I don't come back due to life's other calls, I wish you all my dear BC brothers and sisters, Bangladesh youths and cricket all the best! You guys are the best!

What a (strange) trip it has been - Jerry Garcia

I would be most disappointed if you left and your last comment was made in my "sad" thread.

roman
August 7, 2018, 09:18 AM
Now we have lost BK bhai too. This is a sad day for BC

Banglatiger84
August 7, 2018, 09:40 AM
It really is ..... BK Bhai, wish you all the best, now and always

tonmoy.dhaka
August 7, 2018, 11:10 AM
Yes, people remember everything you say or do.
Life works like this: Every action (if ill) you take in life will eventually come back to haunt you.


Most of us often forget that nothing lasts forever, and nobody lives forever.


BTW, guys - this maybe my very last post in BC! I have been waiting for this for 11 years. I have made a 'Savant' - I reached my goal in this sad thread - got my 25,000 posts in BC.
I am logging out, and if I don't come back due to life's other calls, I wish you all my dear BC brothers and sisters, Bangladesh youths and cricket all the best! You guys are the best!

What a (strange) trip it has been - Jerry Garcia

Adios Amigo..Adios my friend. will miss you...
I myself am not a regular at BC, but loved reading your quotes...

Yankees
August 7, 2018, 11:26 AM
Yes, people remember everything you say or do.
Life works like this: Every action (if ill) you take in life will eventually come back to haunt you.


Most of us often forget that nothing lasts forever, and nobody lives forever.


BTW, guys - this maybe my very last post in BC! I have been waiting for this for 11 years. I have made a 'Savant' - I reached my goal in this sad thread - got my 25,000 posts in BC.
I am logging out, and if I don't come back due to life's other calls, I wish you all my dear BC brothers and sisters, Bangladesh youths and cricket all the best! You guys are the best!

What a (strange) trip it has been - Jerry Garcia

One of the mods should delete this post so that he goes back on 24,999 and has to come back.

Atleast comeback during the WC BK uncle. We will desperately need your sense of humor when our boys get their backs kicked.

mufi_02
August 7, 2018, 12:11 PM
bollei hoilo naki? bk bhai er resignation amra mene nilam nah. dorkar porle rastay nambo, chattro league er bari khabo. tao bk bhai chara bc manbo nah.

mufi_02
August 7, 2018, 12:14 PM
Heard some fan asked Shakib in relation to the Safe Roads protests and Shakib tried to attack the guy. There is a video of this as well.

Dont know facts yet but has anyone else heard the same.

here --

সূত্রটি জানিয়েছে, ভক্তের চাওয়া ছিল আরও বেশি। ৪৬ দিনের দীর্ঘ সফর শেষে খেলোয়াড়েরা সবাই ভীষণ ক্লান্ত ছিলেন। সাধারণত সব সফরের শেষে এসে সবাইকে এমন ক্লান্তি পেয়ে বসে। সাকিব পারবেন না বলে সোজা হাঁটা দেন। এ সময়ই ওই সমর্থক অশালীন মন্তব্য করে বসেন। যার মূল বক্তব্য ছিল, সাকিব ভাব নিচ্ছেন। এতেই ভীষণ চটে যান বাংলাদেশের টেস্ট ও টি-টোয়েন্টি অধিনায়ক।

বাংলাদেশ টিম ম্যানেজমেন্টের এক সদস্য ফ্লোরিডা থেকে মুঠোফোনে বলছিলেন, ‘ওই ভক্ত সাকিবকে উত্ত্যক্ত করছিলেন। খেলার পর সে ভীষণ ক্লান্ত ছিল, তাকে যেভাবে বিরক্ত করা হচ্ছিল, একটা সময়ে নিজেকে ধরে রাখতে না পেরে অমন প্রতিক্রিয়া দেখিয়েছে। মানুষটা সাকিব আল হাসান বলেই এই প্রতিক্রিয়া নিয়ে নানা আলোচনা-সমালোচনা হচ্ছে। কিন্তু ভক্তদেরও একটু বোঝা উচিত, কখন ছবি তোলা কিংবা অটোগ্রাফ নেওয়া যায়, আর কখন যায় না। কখন কতটুকু আবদার করা যাবে। সেটি পূরণ না হলে আপনি কষ্ট পেতে পারেন বা হতাশ হতে পারেন। কিন্তু এমন কিছু বলা উচিত না, যেটা উসকানিমূলক।’

http://www.prothomalo.com/sports/article/1549256/ভক্তের-সঙ্গে-সাকিবের-আসলে-কী-হয়েছিল

some fans are relentless. they actually harass the players. goes in their back and tries to take selfies and inappropriately touches the players :facepalm:

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 12:19 PM
bollei hoilo naki? bk bhai er resignation amra mene nilam nah. dorkar porle rastay nambo, chattro league er bari khabo. tao bk bhai chara bc manbo nah.

I am sure if BK bro reads this and the other requests he won’t be as ruthless as Hasina and accept our demands for his return!

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 12:36 PM
here --





http://www.prothomalo.com/sports/article/1549256/ভক্তের-সঙ্গে-সাকিবের-আসলে-কী-হয়েছিল

some fans are relentless. they actually harass the players. goes in their back and tries to take selfies and inappropriately touches the players :facepalm:

Many of our fans don’t have much common sense and do harass our players. But I think when they are on tour there should be some form of security arrangements for players.

But even if the above is true and Shakib was tired, there was no need to use aggressive language and behaviour which I heard Shakib did.

My own story: I was lucky enough to see Tamim during Umrah. I really dispised him at the time due to his approach to cricket. Surprisingly I found Tamim to be a nice guy. I saw him at the hotel we were staying in, I waved and he came towards me while talking on his phone and I told him to finish his phone call. We chatted for a couple of minutes. I really wanted to take a photo but thought it would be inappropriate as he just arrived at Medina and his focus was for religious purposes. Perhaps one day in the future I will.

Tigers_eye
August 7, 2018, 01:11 PM
Most disappointed at our Prime Minister. I expected better from her!
The government has been extremely disappointing.

These BCL youths of today that are acting in such ruthless terrorist manner are a disgrace to their predecessors of a few decades ago. It was once a youth/student organization that took a valiant part in the liberation war of this country. What a shame that the Prime Minister is not taking control of them and NOT realizing that all Bangladeshi youths and students are her children, her responsibility whether they are a part of BCL or not.lol,
Bangali'r asha ektu beshi. Shonar Bangla? Dial it down.

Had it been anything but this, many of us would be in Bangladesh still. We were the cream of the crop. 80% left. remaining 20% thinking to leave. Had it been any different than this, we wouldn't had to come here clean toilets to pay tuition fees. Wouldn't had to wait tables, or gather carts in the grocery stores. Wouldn't had to do face the verbal (for some physical) abuse just for the skin color or religion.

Koshto lagey. Aste aste tao shojjho hoiye jai.

roman
August 7, 2018, 01:18 PM
some fans are relentless. they actually harass the players. goes in their back and tries to take selfies and inappropriately touches the players :facepalm:

And its ok to touch Riyad's Bicep :lol:

Fans are really ruthless no doubt. Baap ma tule gali deya, as if the players are not human. Fans need to be more respectful. Its not nice to harass someone like that. I also felt like slapping that fan for that silly comment. Bhab mare, beta shakib bhab marbe nato ki tomar moto low life bhab marbe?

Having said that, Shakib as a captain should've also not reacted the way he did. Yes, I get that he was tired and wanted to have some quiet moments. He could've just walked away and that would have ended right there.

Yankees
August 7, 2018, 01:45 PM
lol,
Bangali'r asha ektu beshi. Shonar Bangla? Dial it down.



:floor::floor::lol:

:up::up::up: great stuff Tigers_eye

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 02:32 PM
Hasina now trolling the kids. Went to see her goons who were hurt at the hospital.

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 02:33 PM
And its ok to touch Riyad's Bicep

Ha ha ha. Mufi bro has some explaining to do 😁

Ahsan
August 7, 2018, 02:55 PM
https://i.redd.it/7lrikw5pcle11.jpg

The guy in the white shirt and lungi is a part of Dhaka Metro Police SWAT, clearly


No no, you are wrong again! That officer in lungi is actually the Police DG, he did not get time to wear uniform after hearing that innocent students were being attacked by BCL goons. So he woke up from bed and ran to save those innocent students. Like BK bhai would say, glad he went to bed wearing a lungi at least, what if he was used to go to bed naked, chi chi chi, that would have been so indecent for the mother of humanity!

mufi_02
August 7, 2018, 03:44 PM
https://www.thedailystar.net/news/city/i-plead-not-punish-shahidul-alam-1617427

'I plead not to punish Shahidul Alam'

Award-winning Indian photojournalist Raghu Rai wrote an open letter to Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina yesterday on social media platform Facebook, requesting the government not to punish Shahidul Alam, the internationally-famed Bangladeshi photographer and prominent rights activist who was arrested by plainclothes men on Sunday night. A long-time friend of Shahidul, Raghu Rai was honoured by Bangladesh government in 2012 as a 'Friend of the Bangladesh Liberation War'. Rai documented Bangladesh's plight for freedom during 1971 through powerful photos of the refugee camps, action during the war and scenes of jubilation after independence, which were published as a book titled “Bangladesh: The Price of Freedom”. Here is the full text of the letter he posted on Facebook.

Madam Prime minister, you are the daughter of great revolutionary Sheikh Mujibur Rehman who rose against the repressive and torturous regime of Pakistani generals—and in return the generals decided to teach Bangladeshis a lesson. Thus the nation rose against Pakistan under the leadership of Sheikh Sahib and this is how Bangladesh came into being. So let's not teach our boys a lesson.

Hon'ble Madam, Shahidul Alam founder of DRIK and Pathshala has been a great admirer of Sheikh Sahib, and I have had the privilege of knowing him as a close friend for the last 3 decades. I have no doubt in my mind that Shahidul is one of those rare breeds committed to truth and honesty, and can die for his country. It seems last night Shahidul was picked up by 20-30 men from detective branch of police, and was tortured and couldn't walk on his feet. My heart bleeds for that.

It reminds me of Pakistani general trying to teach a lesson to the faithfuls. Its not only me in India but many others journalists and photo journalists, artists, writers from all around the world who vouch for him and stand by him. We are deeply hurt by the news of Shahidul being detained and tortured. All he has done is to use his photographic skill and voice to capture the truth of ongoing reality in a most committed and compassionate way.

mufi_02
August 7, 2018, 03:46 PM
^how ironic is this. BAL government now being compared to Pak hanadars. The party that preached rajakar justice is now being accused of the same crime now.

Don't take my word for it. This Indian journalist documented and photographed our liberation war and was awarded "Friend of Bangladesh". If anyone has any authority or credibility to compare the events, it is this guy.

mufi_02
August 7, 2018, 03:48 PM
Hasina could have easily let the Police handle this situation. Not sure why she let chattro league interfere with this. Either she is trying to stamp complete authority over the country OR doesn't have control over her rising shonar cheles of chattro league.

godzilla
August 7, 2018, 03:49 PM
Does Hasina realize the impact of this incident that will have on her party in a couple of years? This is one way to kill your party ... self suicide if you want to call it.

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 03:54 PM
The DNA of the golden fibre that produced this breed of Shonar chele of BCL must have been partly of dogs!

How grown adults could attack unarmed school kids really is pathetic and shocking to say the least.

Hasina’s tactics ticking off outside entities.

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 04:00 PM
Does Hasina realize the impact of this incident that will have on her party in a couple of years? This is one way to kill your party ... self suicide if you want to call it.

Hasina has become a ruthless tyrant who will by any means remain in control of the country.

I guess a lot of these kids will remember the torture she had inflicted on them but Bangladeshi minds are easily manipulated. But the way things are going AL will remain in power no matter what as BNP has become too weak.

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 04:08 PM
If Hasina was ever thinking of a slogan for herself:

Ami Hasina re Hasina, ami karo kothai nachina

mufi_02
August 7, 2018, 04:28 PM
ok I am bit paranoid now. amra eto criticise kortasi pore abar hasina kono jhamela korbe na toh. she is known to punish social media posters critical of her.

I love hasina. desh rotno sheikh hasina nobel peace prize pabe. amra shei dua kori.

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 04:46 PM
Hasina taking this to further height suing kids and letting attackers go
https://www.thedailystar.net/news/city/22-private-university-students-remanded-for-vandalism-attacks-on-police-1617301

On another note;
ShakiBAL Hasan to Awami League e jog dibbay, tar nammay to BAL is engraved

adamnsu
August 7, 2018, 04:48 PM
ok I am bit paranoid now. amra eto criticise kortasi pore abar hasina kono jhamela korbe na toh. she is known to punish social media posters critical of her.

I love hasina. desh rotno sheikh hasina nobel peace prize pabe. amra shei dua kori.

Array bhai etto komai bollen keno?
Hasina is the Mother of the nation. When she speaks it’s like an angel singing. Whatever she does weaves gold. She is a fuddy duddy at heart. She makes Mother Teresa look like an amateur. Can’t really understand why some evil people dislike her

godzilla
August 7, 2018, 05:08 PM
Hasina has become a ruthless tyrant who will by any means remain in control of the country.

I guess a lot of these kids will remember the torture she had inflicted on them but Bangladeshi minds are easily manipulated. But the way things are going AL will remain in power no matter what as BNP has become too weak.

Most tyrant leaders lost power one way or not. Power of people uniting together is a scary thing.

Yankees
August 7, 2018, 05:47 PM
https://www.thedailystar.net/news/city/i-plead-not-punish-shahidul-alam-1617427

'I plead not to punish Shahidul Alam'

Award-winning Indian photojournalist Raghu Rai wrote an open letter to Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina yesterday on social media platform Facebook, requesting the government not to punish Shahidul Alam, the internationally-famed Bangladeshi photographer and prominent rights activist who was arrested by plainclothes men on Sunday night. A long-time friend of Shahidul, Raghu Rai was honoured by Bangladesh government in 2012 as a 'Friend of the Bangladesh Liberation War'. Rai documented Bangladesh's plight for freedom during 1971 through powerful photos of the refugee camps, action during the war and scenes of jubilation after independence, which were published as a book titled “Bangladesh: The Price of Freedom”. Here is the full text of the letter he posted on Facebook.

Read the whole thing. Lost count of how many times he uses words "honorable" "madame" "great" -- only words Hasina would respond to. I can picture her reading the letter (and indeed she is definitely reading that letter) with that signature smirk on her face thinking "acha thik" and "honorable to ami."

Rai is one smart cookie, he knows how to please a lady. This might just work.

WorldCup11
August 7, 2018, 06:46 PM
https://i.redd.it/7lrikw5pcle11.jpg

The guy in the white shirt and lungi is a part of Dhaka Metro Police SWAT, clearly

I think uni recently re-formed Rokkhi bahinir (Code Name: Gunda League) er member. Lungi pore ache karon uni "Lungi wing" e kortoboroto. Helmet wing e thakle nishchoi helmet pore thakten?

Unader kaz holo deshe Gonotontro protistha kora. Kothakar kon Dr. Kamal hossain abar etake bolen "Gunda Tontro" (http://www.prothomalo.com/bangladesh/article/1549221/%E0%A6%A1.-%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B2%E0%A 6%95%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%97%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A1%E0%A 6%BE%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A4%E0%A7%8D% E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%B2%E0%A7%87).

WorldCup11
August 7, 2018, 07:03 PM
Helmet Wing er Chobi , enader mathai thake Helmet r hate thake Lohar pipe , chapati etc. Gonotontro er real enemy Sangbadik pitanotei enara besto thaken.

https://assetsds.cdnedge.bluemix.net/bangla/sites/default/files/styles/very_big_1/public/feature/images/photo-3-web.jpg?itok=FcWRFe1L

Source: The Daily Star (https://www.thedailystar.net/bangla/%E0%A6%B6%E0%A7%80%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B7-%E0%A6%96%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%B0/%E0%A6%9B%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A4%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B0%E0%A 6%B2%E0%A7%80%E0%A6%97%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%B9%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BE%E0%A 7%9F-%E0%A7%AB-%E0%A6%AB%E0%A6%9F%E0%A7%8B-%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%82%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BE%E0%A 6%A6%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95-%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%B9%E0%A6%A4-96400)

WorldCup11
August 7, 2018, 07:20 PM
A must read at present situation,

"Dr Kamal, also a freedom fighter and a renowned jurist, said it cannot be accepted that ‘hooliganism’ will be established in Bangladesh where lakhs of people sacrificed their blood for its independence. Bangabandhu and Tajuddin Ahmed led the Liberation War, and laid down their lives for ensuring democratic politics.

He said those who let loose the goons have to be identified. “Let the country be freed from hoodlums, even at the cost of my life. I don’t want to remain alive among goons.” more (http://www.unb.com.bd/bangladesh-news/Get-united-to-free-country-from-clutches-of-goons-Dr-Kamal%C2%A0/77161)

anon4567
August 7, 2018, 09:13 PM
Former leader of BCL on an interview. Cringe is way too strong on this one

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=943241942546432&id=100005819052568

anon4567
August 7, 2018, 11:46 PM
NSU student Ashraful Islam Akib has been critically wounded by BCL goons when they attacked NSU backed by the Police, please consider donating.

https://www.gofundme.com/bangladesh-victim039s-fund

anon4567
August 8, 2018, 12:07 AM
I wholeheartedly agree with what user ToBeFair said on his last post. Sheikh Mujibur Rahman was also a populist leader.

News: PM visits injured AL men at hospital (When there are actual student protesters fighting for their lives). I suppose those thugs will bring her 300 votes each in the October election.

https://www.thedailystar.net/news/city/pm-sheikh-hasina-visits-injured-awami-league-men-at-hospital-student-movement-for-safe-roads-1617244

adamnsu
August 8, 2018, 03:03 PM
Most tyrant leaders lost power one way or not. Power of people uniting together is a scary thing.

This tyrant has the blessing and suppor of India. The problem is the unity among our country men has died out long time back which is even scarier. However the youth are easily manipulated to make it seem they are united, good example is the ones against the Rajakars, which should have happened sometime back.

Shubho
August 9, 2018, 11:30 AM
I am curious about whether there is consensus on the following: if we were to get rid of the autocrats that are currently in power, who would we want as their replacement?

Yankees
August 9, 2018, 11:56 AM
I am curious about whether there is consensus on the following: if we were to get rid of the autocrats that are currently in power, who would we want as their replacement?

We will replace them with another authocratic leader. I want the host from ITTADI. I want every address to the nation to start with that theme song: ITTADI ITTADI ITTADI. And him saying "Dorshok, ami apnar honorable leader Hanif. Ajker program ase military coup, tarpor desher rasthai lorai, ar shomoi thakle amar sob oppositioner fashi."

ToBeFair
August 9, 2018, 01:14 PM
I am curious about whether there is consensus on the following: if we were to get rid of the autocrats that are currently in power, who would we want as their replacement?

Since there is no replacement, people in general are apathetic about politics. I mean, why should people come and vote for BNP? Because it is their madam's turn to become PM?

People had enough of 'vote for me' because 'its is my turn' style self aggrandizement politics.

And Sheikh Hasina knows this fact, and this public disconnection from politics is what is giving her the fearlessness to be a ruthless autocrat.

BTW, 22 students from private universities sent to jail.

http://www.prothomalo.com/bangladesh/article/1550581/দুই-দিনের-রিমান্ড-শেষে-বেসরকারি-বিশ্ববিদ্যালয়ের-২২

anon4567
August 9, 2018, 04:18 PM
DU, with the assistance of Bangladesh Chatra League, hands student to police for Facebook posts

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/dhaka/2018/08/09/du-hands-student-to-police-for-facebook-posts

It's almost like these days DU is controlled by BCL, not the other way around.
DU VC calling quota reform movement protestors militants earlier. (https://en.prothomalo.com/bangladesh/news/179325/DU-VC-equates-quota-reformists-with-militants)

Shahidul Alam is also still under Police custody.

anon4567
August 9, 2018, 04:27 PM
You know that things are messed up when even the U.S. govt are critical of Police brutality... In Bangladesh.

adamnsu
August 10, 2018, 03:28 AM
I think Hasina has become quite unpopular with the students apart from her own goons in BCL.

After so much protests only little impact will it have though sadly.

simon
August 10, 2018, 07:53 AM
You know that things are messed up when even the U.S. govt are critical of Police brutality... In Bangladesh.

U.S. govt are always critical about other countries' ****.

One World
August 10, 2018, 08:41 AM
Fact

“We are in the process to identify all those who spread rumours in the social media and incited violence,” Bangladesh’s home affairs minister, Asaduzzaman Khan Kamal, said on Wednesday. “None will be spared, be they students, teachers or political leaders.”

Expectation

“We are in the process to identify all those who caused road accidents to date and patronize disarray and misappropriation in this sector,” Bangladesh’s home affairs minister, Asaduzzaman Khan Kamal, said on Wednesday. “None will be spared, be they owners, drivers, syndicate, trade union leaders.”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/10/none-will-be-spared-students-fear-reprisals-over-bangladesh-unrest?CMP=share_btn_fb

What a shame! :down::down::down:

adamnsu
August 10, 2018, 08:49 AM
Whats sick is Hasina'a shonar sons who have been identified one by one are not being targeted.

tonmoy.dhaka
August 10, 2018, 11:13 AM
I think if there is a free and fair election (highly unlikely) than AL would loose with a bigger margin than the way BNP lost in 2009...

I wish there was a way that the Caretaker Govt that took power in 2007 would again run the county but this time for atleast a decade and would get the international recognition to rule the country. However that will never happen.

This BNP/Jamaat- AL cycle needs to stop.. they all tried and failed massively.

adamnsu
August 10, 2018, 01:07 PM
Only good thing Hasina did was curb the fundamentalists! If we had Jamaat in power we would have A lot of killings like they do in Pakistan

tonmoy.dhaka
August 10, 2018, 01:44 PM
Only good thing Hasina did was curb the fundamentalists! If we had Jamaat in power we would have A lot of killings like they do in Pakistan

Not entirely true. I am a big supporter of a secular society (something that AL preached once upon a time). The New AL made a lot of friends inside the fundamentalist circle. Not to mention that they made pals with Hafazot (bunch of backward idiots) and they recognised Kawmi Madrassah ( and unlike Alia madrassah, govt has no control over the curriculum of these Kawmi madrasahs, infact most of them dont even teach kids the national anthem).

BNP also curbed fundamentalism when they were forced to by Bangla bhai and their gangs.

The success of AL has been in the agriculture (fisheries included) sector. We have had bumper crop production everytime AL came to power and Matia chowdhury was in charge of Agriculture ministry. The other success includes Power production , urban development (although debatable) and growth of export and local manufacturing industry.

One World
August 11, 2018, 04:49 PM
Then a bus hits his car near Suhrawardi Hospital

adamnsu
August 13, 2018, 03:05 AM
Not entirely true. I am a big supporter of a secular society (something that AL preached once upon a time). The New AL made a lot of friends inside the fundamentalist circle. Not to mention that they made pals with Hafazot (bunch of backward idiots) and they recognised Kawmi Madrassah ( and unlike Alia madrassah, govt has no control over the curriculum of these Kawmi madrasahs, infact most of them dont even teach kids the national anthem).

BNP also curbed fundamentalism when they were forced to by Bangla bhai and their gangs.

The success of AL has been in the agriculture (fisheries included) sector. We have had bumper crop production everytime AL came to power and Matia chowdhury was in charge of Agriculture ministry. The other success includes Power production , urban development (although debatable) and growth of export and local manufacturing industry.

Some points I could agree but there are quite a few I am not convinced with. Agro production increases could also be coincidental as it depends on weather, flooding etc . Hasina might be able to intimidate young school kids but I doubt she has the power to force seeds to bloom.

Squashing jamaat (due to political and PR support) was one of her biggest achievements if any. The Bangla Bhai thing was minor compared to that.

You mentioned growth of exports which is ok but thats half of the story. Since last year balance of trade has dipped to its lowest point since the last 10 years which is very worrying.

tonmoy.dhaka
August 13, 2018, 07:56 AM
Some points I could agree but there are quite a few I am not convinced with. Agro production increases could also be coincidental as it depends on weather, flooding etc . Hasina might be able to intimidate young school kids but I doubt she has the power to force seeds to bloom.

Squashing jamaat (due to political and PR support) was one of her biggest achievements if any. The Bangla Bhai thing was minor compared to that.

You mentioned growth of exports which is ok but thats half of the story. Since last year balance of trade has dipped to its lowest point since the last 10 years which is very worrying.

Not the right topic to discuss in this thread. Anyways, AL provided lot of incentives to farmers to ensure they do not make losses on the crops they produce. They allowed interest free loans to farmers including small loans. The agricultural department was tasked to provide training to farmers (even in the remotest areas) and supply the right seeds, pesticides and provide fertilizers at subsidized rate.
The fertilizer production was a major issue as it was directly tied to power production, Govt prioritized uninterrupted power supply to fertilizer plants even when our power production was less than 4000MW. A 14 year worth of data (1996-2001) and (2009-Now) is sufficient to rule out luck.

adamnsu
August 13, 2018, 08:33 AM
Not the right topic to discuss in this thread. Anyways, AL provided lot of incentives to farmers to ensure they do not make losses on the crops they produce. They allowed interest free loans to farmers including small loans. The agricultural department was tasked to provide training to farmers (even in the remotest areas) and supply the right seeds, pesticides and provide fertilizers at subsidized rate.
The fertilizer production was a major issue as it was directly tied to power production, Govt prioritized uninterrupted power supply to fertilizer plants even when our power production was less than 4000MW. A 14 year worth of data (1996-2001) and (2009-Now) is sufficient to rule out luck.

If its not the right topic then why are you still discussing it :D

Are Interest free loans to farmers mutally exclusive to AL? Isnt the agricultural departments task to provide training to farmers prior to AL coming into power? Anyways still not convinced on agro production bit.

Also you forgot the other points that I raised which I am guessing you either agree to or using the this is not the right topic to discuss in this thread :D

adamnsu
August 15, 2018, 02:22 PM
A place where students are beaten up and roads aren’t safe, no wonder Dhaka is one of the worst liveable city in the world

anon4567
August 15, 2018, 07:20 PM
Post-student protest: 51 cases filed, 97 arrested
https://www.thedailystar.net/city/post-student-protest-51-cases-filed-97-arrested-dhaka-movement-for-safe-roads-demand-1621120

adamnsu
August 30, 2018, 08:58 AM
Student deaths becoming regular case. Now for one brave soul who stood to protect his friend :facepalm:

https://www.thedailystar.net/news/city/arrest-killers-college-student-maruf-khan-human-chain-demands-1626655

And then this poor baby girl had to die. There is a video of this online. Partly the Mother to blame as even before she reached the bus she was crossing the road dangerously. But bus driver and conductor should take most of the blame.

https://www.thedailystar.net/news/city/bangladesh-road-accident-in-kushtia-careless-bus-driving-baby-dies-1626586