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ahnaf
August 30, 2018, 07:24 AM
The uncertainty around Shakib Al Hasan's availability for the Asia Cup was quashed on Thursday (August 30) when the Bangladesh Cricket Board included him in the 15-member squad. There were speculations surrounding the star all-rounder who was expected to undergo a surgery on his injured finger during the same time as the multi-team tournament, but it now looks like that the surgery has been postponed.

Squad: Mashrafe Mortaza (c), Shakib Al Hasan (vc), Tamim Iqbal, Mohammad Mithun, Liton Das, Mushfiqur Rahim, Ariful Haque, Mahmudullah, Mosaddek Hossain, Nazmul Hossain, Mehidy Hasan, Nazmul Islam, Rubel Hossain, Mustafizur Rahman, Abu Haider Rony.

In : Mithun, Ariful.
Out: Sabbir, Anamul & Abu Jayed

https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/103832/bangladesh-shakib-al-hasan-boost-asia-cup-2018-cricket

Apparently Mithun along with Ariful is being considered for a lower-middle order batting position.

https://bangla.bdnews24.com/cricket/article1534605.bdnews

aklemalp
August 30, 2018, 08:02 AM
If it's not broken, don't change it.

Roni_uk
August 30, 2018, 08:16 AM
I was hoping for Ashraful's return - is it too much to ask?

Tigers_eye
August 30, 2018, 08:21 AM
So Sarkar is out as well. Hmmm!!! Did he not do the press conference for the team yesterday?

Tigers_eye
August 30, 2018, 08:24 AM
May be Shanto will get a chance this time. Liton will open?

adamnsu
August 30, 2018, 08:33 AM
I think dropping Shabbir was a really good move for Bangladesh for more than one reasons. Now he can muck about all he wants and no one will be bothered.

tonmoy.dhaka
August 30, 2018, 08:56 AM
I barely watched Bangladesh cricket lately, so I do not profess to know more. However at the time that I did, I always regarded Sabbir as a unique talent.

Sabbir is a game changer, someone with a cool head. Yes he will fail more than he succeeds but with Sabbir in the team I would still watch the game even if the required rate reaches 10-12 runs per over. If he is dropped because of his off the field antiques than I have no problem, but if he is dropped for his performance than I think the selectors are crazy.

I still remember watching him for the first time against Afghanistan (he was playing for Bangladesh A team). He hit 6 of the last ball to win the game for BD A (in China).

Since than he was far better performer in the first edition of BPL but selectors constantly ignored him till Haturasinghe gave him his chance. I just do not trust our selectors.

One World
August 30, 2018, 09:13 AM
Dropping Sabbir may be a good decision in the end. It can help lit up team morale.

We rather have now lot of utility players who we can hope to deliver something after so many chances.

And I agree with Roni-UK

adamnsu
August 30, 2018, 09:27 AM
Anamul should also be done and dusted too in the international arena!

Mridul
August 30, 2018, 09:41 AM
Here is my first choice XI

1. Tamim
2. Liton
3. Shakib
4. Shanto
5. Mushfiq
6. Mahmudullah
7. Mithun
8. Mashrafe
9. Mehedy
10. Rubel
11. Mustafizur

zura
August 30, 2018, 09:50 AM
If it's not broken, don't change it.

Well, Sabbir was definitely broken. Bringing in Ariful also gives a 4th pacer choice. He is useless now and has regressed. A case common among those who want to be superstars and not cricketers.

zura
August 30, 2018, 09:53 AM
I barely watched Bangladesh cricket lately, so I do not profess to know more. However at the time that I did, I always regarded Sabbir as a unique talent.

Sabbir is a game changer, someone with a cool head. Yes he will fail more than he succeeds but with Sabbir in the team I would still watch the game even if the required rate reaches 10-12 runs per over. If he is dropped because of his off the field antiques than I have no problem, but if he is dropped for his performance than I think the selectors are crazy.

I still remember watching him for the first time against Afghanistan (he was playing for Bangladesh A team). He hit 6 of the last ball to win the game for BD A (in China).

Since than he was far better performer in the first edition of BPL but selectors constantly ignored him till Haturasinghe gave him his chance. I just do not trust our selectors.

Did the heat do something to your head? Sabbir isn't a game changer and he can't be even considered a big hitter at all. When did Sabbir win us a match when the run-rate was anywhere close to 10. All our ODI wins that involve going to the last over has one of the seniors play till the very end (Mushfiq mostly).

aklemalp
August 30, 2018, 10:50 AM
Every single match (ODIs) that BD has played since the start of last year, Sabbir has been in.

Getting dropped here breaks that streak.

Some numbers during that period:

22 matches
20 innings
358 runs
18.84 avg
89.94 sr
2x50
hs:65

Tigers_eye
August 30, 2018, 10:54 AM
Since June 2017, Sabbir played 14 ODIs. Remained not out in one game for 24*. Highest score of 39. :facepalm:
Average of 15.6 :facepalm: :facepalm:


He should be considered only for 20 over matches for the A team.

Zeeshan
August 30, 2018, 10:55 AM
I was hoping for Ashraful's return - is it too much to ask?

It is still early. It's not about proving himself. And I for one know he will never repeat his mistake. The trust is the not the issue.

Ashraful is an asset. But let him get in the groove. In the interview I posted on his thread, he still thinks "luck dorkar". FFS get out of this "luck dorkar" mentality. Make your own luck punk. That's what peak performers do.

I LOVE how soft-spoken he is and it is hard to believe someone in such humility can be dangerously aggressive on crease.

He does have confidence that he still has some solid 10 years in his bank. I hope he hones, tweaks and maximizes his confidence and strength more and more...

Also, he is still young despite his cricketing acumen. He needs a coach, a mental coach and must be on topnotch, sharp fit condition.

Fitness is another negligent underlying issue of our team.

Anyone can pretty much pick up techniques, tactics, hacks and tweaks. But fitness is something that must be bootstrapped and built with hard work.

Navy SEALS spend all their waking hours doing pushups, pullups, situps and burpees before they even get a sniff of their gun. Now if your mentality is "we are sending them to shoot the bad guys, why should we spend some much time in 'meaningless' exercises?' then you will never build a superior powerhouse of team.

There is a reason why fitness is so important and West spends so much time on it. When I did muay thai...man frikkin hell: First run, then come and do either skipping or jump on tires, then pull tires, then sprint, then more pushups and only at the final segment of 15 minutes spar in the ring. Sparring is the icing on the cake.

Fitness is a meta-skill.

Suppose I tell someone to give 50 pushups. If he is struggling at 49 and can barely make out the last one with a gun pointed to his head, that shows lack of mental toughness in times of pressure cooker situations.

However, if he can crank out the last one, that highlights that he possesses the mental discipline to go that extra step - that extra mile- when he is physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually bankrupt.

[I know I dragged the point to fitness starting with Ashraful. But it is my general thought and observation and IS pertinent and to the point. I really hope we can manufacture a top-notch, fine tuned machine of superior athletes who will need to be carried out on a stretcher before they give up and quit. Kinda like New Zealand's 34/4 in Champion's Trophy.

See skills can be learned. All these hacks, and tweaking your slow-left arm actions...all these can be learned. But you cannot teach a person mental toughness on gritting teeth and making it through hell-fire and rounds of volleys. You need to develop it incrementally with hard work, blood, sweat and tears.]

Basically I am rehashing these concepts here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXh1r0vOX0I).

tonmoy.dhaka
August 30, 2018, 10:58 AM
Did the heat do something to your head? Sabbir isn't a game changer and he can't be even considered a big hitter at all. When did Sabbir win us a match when the run-rate was anywhere close to 10. All our ODI wins that involve going to the last over has one of the seniors play till the very end (Mushfiq mostly).

It is not about the record, it is about the talent! I do not judge a batsman based on his scores but I judge based on his capacity to dominate an opposition.

Yes he did not score in recent past, but he is still miles better than any alternative. I have had the misfortune of watching Ariful bat against windies.. He just throws the kitchen sink without even understanding the delivery.

I remember during Asia cup years back I was constantly complaining about the inclusion of Al-amin and said please pick Rony... I was ridiculed for it.. Today everyone accepts Rony is miles better than Al amin. I can similarly assure you that you will forget about this ariful in 2 years time...

aklemalp
August 30, 2018, 11:06 AM
Was Sabbir dropped because of this?

Sabbir Rahman might be facing another lengthy ban from cricket. He is set to meet the BCB's disciplinary committee on Saturday, for a hearing related to the outburst on social media that allegedly came from Sabbir's official account and directed abuse at a fan following Bangladesh's loss in the second ODI in the West Indies last month.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24523370/sabbir-rahman-danger-another-lengthy-ban

Tausif
August 30, 2018, 11:06 AM
Dropping Sabbir for his form and off the field issues makes sense. However, Ariful or Mithun are not the solution at all. I think we have seen enough of Mithun to realize that he does not have what it takes and Ariful did not give me any confidence in the Windies series. I'm all for it to give him a proper series but I'm not sure if Asia Cup is the right choice. But he will replace Sabbir in the XI as there are no other alternatives.

Good squad otherwise. Hoping Rony gets a chance.

zura
August 30, 2018, 11:29 AM
It is not about the record, it is about the talent! I do not judge a batsman based on his scores but I judge based on his capacity to dominate an opposition.

Yes he did not score in recent past, but he is still miles better than any alternative. I have had the misfortune of watching Ariful bat against windies.. He just throws the kitchen sink without even understanding the delivery.

I remember during Asia cup years back I was constantly complaining about the inclusion of Al-amin and said please pick Rony... I was ridiculed for it.. Today everyone accepts Rony is miles better than Al amin. I can similarly assure you that you will forget about this ariful in 2 years time...

Sabbir doesn't dominate opposition.

As for Ariful, he was the highest scoring lower-middle order batsman in BPL.

Abu Hider was selected for 2016 Asia Cup along with Al-Amin.

zura
August 30, 2018, 11:31 AM
Dropping Sabbir for his form and off the field issues makes sense. However, Ariful or Mithun are not the solution at all. I think we have seen enough of Mithun to realize that he does not have what it takes and Ariful did not give me any confidence in the Windies series. I'm all for it to give him a proper series but I'm not sure if Asia Cup is the right choice. But he will replace Sabbir in the XI as there are no other alternatives.

Good squad otherwise. Hoping Rony gets a chance.

Who exactly is the solution then? There aren't any better lower order batsmen. Besides, we need them to score at a higher rate than anything.

Tausif
August 30, 2018, 11:36 AM
Who exactly is the solution then? There aren't any better lower order batsmen. Besides, we need them to score at a higher rate than anything.

No one really, that's why I didn't list any other alternative. I thought Saifuddin could have been one before but he didn't show much in his chances.

For now, Ariful will do and he deserves a proper chance to show what he has. But I'm not that confident in his abilities. Would love to be proved wrong.

godzilla
August 30, 2018, 11:55 AM
Was Sabbir dropped because of this?



http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24523370/sabbir-rahman-danger-another-lengthy-ban

"In the last three years, several Bangladesh cricketers have found themselves in trouble off the field. Rubel Hossain was jailed briefly in January 2015 after a fall-out with his girlfriend. Al-Amin Hossain was sent home from the 2015 World Cup for breaking a team curfew in Brisbane. A few months later, Shahadat Hossain also landed in jail for allegedly physically assaulting his house help.

Arafat Sunny got bail last year after serving jail time in a dowry case. Around the same time as the Sunny affair was playing out, Mohammad Shahid's wife had reportedly lodged a complaint with the BCB CEO alleging Shahid of physically assaulting her."

this pretty much sums up our team and the player mentality ...

al Furqaan
August 30, 2018, 12:14 PM
Hasn't Mosaddek been accused of beating his wife or killing his unborn child? Or am I misunderstanding the latest scandal???

MarufH
August 30, 2018, 12:40 PM
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Liton Das
3. Shakib Al Hasan
4. Mushfiqur Rahim
5. Mahmudullah
6. Nazmul Hossain Shanto
7. Mashrafe Mortaza
8. Ariful Haque
9. Mehidy Hasan
10. Rubel Hossain
11. Mustafizur Rahman

I am very excited to see how Nazmul Shanto performs. I want to play Mash at #7 just to have an impact player there. If he scores, we will get 20-30 extra runs. If not, Ariful/Mehedy can ensure we play 50 overs. If Ariful fails, play Mithun. Nazmul Apu can play in place of Mehedy depending on opposition and their weakness. Rony is a backup pacer if any of the playing ones get injured. I dont see any place for Mosaddek unless Mahmudullah fails spectacularly or worst yet... Shakib gets injured.

One World
August 30, 2018, 01:41 PM
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Liton Das
3. Shakib Al Hasan
4. Mushfiqur Rahim
5. Mahmudullah
6. Nazmul Hossain ShantoM Mithun
7. Mashrafe Mortaza
8. Ariful Haque
9. Mehidy Hasan
10. Rubel Hossain
11. Mustafizur Rahman

I am very excited to see how Nazmul Shanto performs....

Already seen him in A team tour against Ireland, thanks but sorry, selecting him is actually a waste in spot, Mominul deserved the selection.

Rinathq
August 30, 2018, 02:00 PM
Very good squad. About time Bijoy and Sabbir get dropped. Hope Sabbir is done for years atleast.

Mominul didnt have a place in the squad with Shakib playing no.3

aklemalp
August 30, 2018, 02:26 PM
Really think that Liton-Tamim opening needs some time to grow.

aklemalp
August 30, 2018, 02:29 PM
Blossom- was the word I was looking for.

zura
August 30, 2018, 03:35 PM
Really think that Liton-Tamim opening needs some time to grow.

Liton is extremely poor on the off-side. I don't see him last more than 10-15 overs.

MarufH
August 30, 2018, 03:39 PM
Already seen him in A team tour against Ireland, thanks but sorry, selecting him is actually a waste in spot, Mominul deserved the selection.

Really... how did he do? More details please.
The thing about Mithun is he is already tested and failed. I was speaking from giving chance to next generation thing. Shanto and Afif was highly spoken about when they graduated from under 19.

MarufH
August 30, 2018, 03:41 PM
Blossom- was the word I was looking for.

+1. Agree with you.

As for Liton offside, Tamim was the same when he started off. I think he should be given a prolonged run.

dark mage
August 30, 2018, 04:40 PM
Tamim was never weak on the offside. He had trouble negotiating deliveries bowled on his legs though and he had a limited array of shots in his arsenal but he was never really clueless on the legside. But Tamim was lucky to have a coach like Siddons who worked on his technical flaws with patience and Tamim too would tirelessly practice his batting techniques. But as far as I know none of the younger generation of players like to practice extra except for Mominul. But I agree I like Liton so far and I think he deserves a longer run but he definitely needs to improve his offside game because that is what is known as the corridor of uncertainty that the bowlers like to exploit where even confident batsmen find it difficult

Tausif
August 30, 2018, 04:50 PM
Liton has been working on his offside games for sure. Since his return, he has been playing all around the ground. His preference is definitely the legside but I have seen some beautiful drives from him on the offside recently.

Muhammad8279
August 30, 2018, 11:30 PM
Sadly, Sabbir Rahman out of the Bangladesh Squad, Asia Cup 2018 :( but Happiness is Mustafizur Rahman is fit :)

NoName
August 31, 2018, 12:28 AM
Good riddance

Gowza
August 31, 2018, 02:52 AM
So seems sabbir got dropped for disciplinary reasons, talented but has a lot of issues to work out and a lot of growing up to do.

Jadukor
August 31, 2018, 04:29 AM
Mithun and Mosaddek are both a waste of a spot. With Shabbir left out, we should have played Soumya at 6. I would have liked to have seen Abu Zayed picked for this tour also. We need more pace options ready for England. I hope Ariful makes it count. Haven't really seen him hit big yet but I can't imagine the Coach playing him at 6 if he doesn't have the big shots in his armory

Gowza
August 31, 2018, 04:45 AM
If ariful and mithun get chances and don’t work out then team is up so and so creek. Then who’s next? Try soumya lower down? Bring in al amin and or afif to give them a try.

We should already know enough about mithun, ariful, mominul etc these guys should’ve gotten opportunities probably over the last year, at least then tournaments like the Asia cup and series leading up to WC would be more about finding the right xi for the WC and giving back ups experience than still trying to find players for certain roles.

Anyway, I say plan on having muahy and riyad at 6/7, I think we are more likely to find some decent batsmen who can bat 3-5 than we are lower order hitters.

Ah well, hopefully someone steps up out of shanto, ariful, mosa, mithun and liton continues his upward trend (he is getting better).

Rifat
August 31, 2018, 05:01 AM
1. Tamim
2. Liton
3. Shakib
4. Mushfiq
5. Riyad
6. Ariful
7. Mashrafee
8. Mehedi Miraz
9. Rubel
10. Mustafizur
11. Abu Hider/Nazmul Apu


or if we want to play an extra batsmen:

1. Tamim
2. Liton
3. Shakib
4. Mushfiq
5. Riyad
6. Ariful
7. Mohammad Mithun
8. Mashrafee
9. Mehedi Miraz
10. Rubel
11. Mustafizur

Fazal
August 31, 2018, 09:23 AM
Really think that Liton-Tamim opening needs some time to grow.


Blossom- was the word I was looking for.

Are you sure its "Blossom" or "Bosom" was the word that you were looking for?

Fazal
August 31, 2018, 09:27 AM
Mithun may or may not be the solution, but he was never given enough chance. I hope this time, whether we like it or not, Mithun and Ariful get enough chance before discarding them again.

aklemalp
August 31, 2018, 09:58 AM
Are you sure its "Blossom" or "Bosom" was the word that you were looking for?

Eh? :-B