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EngWIndian
June 1, 2004, 01:35 PM
it seems the 1st test will be ending in a boring DRAW, But what about the next test starting Friday?

take note that it will be a MUCH Quicker pitch with MORE Bounce, and that spinners (including sarwan & rafiq) will not be anywhere as successful as they were here.

I think the current WI team is fine and need no changes, what about BD?

i got my money on WI for the next test, the pitch will become a bomb field for batsman with Tino and Edward's pace.

hopefully we will have an entertaining match, with NO RAIN INTERUPTIONS.

Can't Wait.:cool:

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[Edited on 2-6-2004 by EngWIndian]

rafiq
June 1, 2004, 02:48 PM
I had WI in the series 1-0. Hard to predict that WI will not win. But as you can see from the first test, it won' t be easy for you, fast wicket or not.

Flip Master Mick
June 1, 2004, 02:50 PM
west indies will be hard pressed the win the test match...

that should work for bd

BangladeshFan
June 1, 2004, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by EngWIndian
it seems the 1st test will be ending in a boring DRAW, But what about the next test starting Friday?

take note that it will be a MUCH Quicker pitch with MORE Bounce, and that spinners (including sarwan & rafiq) will not be anywhere as successful as they were here.

I think the current WI team is fine and need no changes, what about BD?

i got my money on WI for the next test, the pitch will become a bomb field for batsman with Tino and Edward's pace.

hopefully we will have an entertaining match, with NO RAIN INTERUPTIONS.

Can't Wait.:cool:

It will be Bangladesh 1 - West Indies 0:fanflag:

Arnab
June 1, 2004, 04:14 PM
Not a prediction. I would like the Windies to go into the match overconfident of the pace pitch.

crickipagol
June 1, 2004, 04:38 PM
We will have the last laugh!

Zobair
June 1, 2004, 04:38 PM
Agreed with Arnab! lets hope the windies go into the second test hoping to blast the Tigers out again :)

EngWIndian
June 1, 2004, 04:40 PM
lara say that Banks may be brought in for the next test.

reverse_swing
June 1, 2004, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by EngWIndian
lara say that Banks may be brought in for the next test.

Thank you Mr. Brian Lara(53).

EngWIndian
June 1, 2004, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by reverse_swing
Originally posted by EngWIndian
lara say that Banks may be brought in for the next test.

Thank you Mr. Brian Lara(53).

im looking forward to seeing banks again, he's a very talented batsman, and great spinner, was very effective against Sri and Aus, good luck to him.

sujon
June 1, 2004, 09:36 PM
Dont think the pitch is gonna very super fast. May be its gonna be a bit bouncier than what we usually see. We have played in the wanderers in Durban before which has one of the fastest pitches (did pretty bad too:)).

We are very proud of our team and just want them to give 100% all the time no matter what the outcome is.

My prediction is that WI is gonna win but not very easily.

Rubu
June 1, 2004, 11:07 PM
question: if the pitch is not favoring spinners, why bringing in banks?

no, there is no way WI gonna take bd for granted after this match just because they pitch is bouncy. i see another problem, its bd who might be over confident because they are able to handle fast bowlers in this pitch. and whatmore is not there to make them professional about the draw and not be too happy.

my prediction: WI will win, but game will go into the final session of final day.

capslock
June 2, 2004, 12:25 AM
It's amazing how in the hoopla over the pitch everyone always forgets that both teams have to bat. Who's to say that the Windies batsmen will find it so easy to bat in either? BD have some solid bowlers who can bowl line and length and swing the ball, it's those types of bowlers who can suddenly catch fire in bouncy pitches. And just a couple of months ago the Windies collapsed for a sub 100 score against England...who don't have a fearsome pace attack by any means.


If the Windies think that a bouncy pitch will be a panacea for their problems they are mistaken.

Saurav
June 2, 2004, 02:12 AM
Taking a note of how the WI batsmen have fared on bouncy pitches, they may well lose the second Test.

As far as Omari Banks is concerned, I don't see how he is a better spinner than Gayle. What's the point in including two right arm offies in the same team?

rafiq
June 2, 2004, 02:22 AM
I know bangladesh doesn't exactly scare anyone, but it is amazing to see how far the Windies have fallen. All they talk about is the damn pitch, as if the pitch alone stands between victory and defeat.

And Omari Banks does not scare anyone, I'm sorry.

Saurav
June 2, 2004, 02:31 AM
Omari Banks should actually scare the die-hard WI fans :lol:

Ahmed_B
June 2, 2004, 02:55 AM
in next match.. no WI spinner will be able to stand much strong.. coz the 'surprise' is over.. BD was mentally prepared to face all-pace-attack only..
probably thts the reason behind Chanda's success in this match..

spinners probably will get beaten up in next match(if WI keeps any in the team).. coz BD playes spinners well.

[Edited on 2-6-2004 by crickethorizon]

EngWIndian
June 2, 2004, 04:57 AM
spinners probably will get beaten up in next match(if WI keeps any in the team).. coz BD playes spinners well.


that why SARWAN, who rarely ever bowls got 7 wickets !!!:)

Banks is named in the 13 man squad, he replaced Dave Mohammed, but i would like to see him in the team, and so does Lara.

WI 'should' win, this time the pitch is on their side, and the batting will be more confident, after being 113-0, the openers wont mind carrying on from that performance.

[Edited on 2-6-2004 by EngWIndian]

Optimist
June 2, 2004, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by EngWIndian

spinners probably will get beaten up in next match(if WI keeps any in the team).. coz BD playes spinners well.


that why SARWAN, who rarely ever bowls got 7 wickets !!!:)

Banks is named in the 13 man squad, he replaced Dave Mohammed, but i would like to see him in the team, and so does Lara.

WI 'should' win, this time the pitch is on their side, and the batting will be more confident, after being 113-0, the openers wont mind carrying on from that performance.

[Edited on 2-6-2004 by EngWIndian]

I don't think it was Sarwan's skill that bothered Bangladesh.......rather it was our mind frame. Our batsmen were in two minds whether to attack or not. We had this problem with mediocre spinners before (remember Grant Flower?). Bangladesh played Saqlain well, so Omari Banks should not pose any special threat. I am more concerned about the mind frame of our batsmen.

But whatever happens I'm sure the windies fans have their whining ready.........if Bangladesh plays well.......It will either be that "the pitch was slow" or "the team selection was bad" or their "players underestimated us". Just getting sick of these!!

[Edited on 2-6-2004 by Optimist]

Optimist
June 2, 2004, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by EngWIndian

im looking forward to seeing banks again, he's a very talented batsman, and great spinner, was very effective against Sri and Aus, good luck to him.

GREAT spinner indeed!
O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 221.1 38 701 14 50.07 3-35 0 0 94.7 3.16

[Edited on 2-6-2004 by Optimist]

EngWIndian
June 2, 2004, 08:03 AM
OK......hmmm....



Dont think the pitch is gonna very super fast.


No One Said That. It will be FASTER than the pitch in St.Lucia, NOT super fast.



It's amazing how in the hoopla over the pitch everyone always forgets that both teams have to bat.


Who forgot that both teams need to bat???



Who's to say that the Windies batsmen will find it so easy to bat in either?


huh?



BD have some solid bowlers who can bowl line and length and swing the ball, it's those types of bowlers who can suddenly catch fire in bouncy pitches.


you dont have to know how to swing the ball, if you have ever seen jamaica's pitch, its insane, the ball can do anything, that why i said that Tino and Edwards, with their pace it will become a bomb field. Bowlers like Tapash will also find it easier to bowl.



And just a couple of months ago the Windies collapsed for a sub 100 score against England


BD is not like England, WI learn from their mistakes, thats how teams later succeed.



If the Windies think that a bouncy pitch will be a panacea for their problems they are mistaken


No WIndian thinks that all will be fixed when they play in jamaica, all we are saying is that the pitch gives the fast bowlers the advantage rather than the batsman, OK????? both teams will have to put their complete effort.



I don't see how he is a better spinner than Gayle.


Banks is a better spinner than gayle.



but it is amazing to see how far the Windies have fallen.


they have not fallen, they are going through a very bad patch, just like every team in world cricket has done before.



All they talk about is the damn pitch, as if the pitch alone stands between victory and defeat.


arggg, im suprised how many people here thinks so low of us, and to think there still 1 match to go :(



And Omari Banks does not scare anyone, I'm sorry.


lol, he's not put in the squad to scare people, if we want that, then we would use Dillon. Banks was a successful talented cricketer, and will be great to see him perform again.



coz BD playes spinners well.


wrong!:)



But whatever happens I'm sure the windies fans have their whining ready


i guess you should check out the CCricket MB, then you can see how many WI fans are deeply dissapointed in the teams performances.

EngWIndian
June 2, 2004, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Optimist
Originally posted by EngWIndian

im looking forward to seeing banks again, he's a very talented batsman, and great spinner, was very effective against Sri and Aus, good luck to him.

GREAT spinner indeed!
O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 221.1 38 701 14 50.07 3-35 0 0 94.7 3.16

[Edited on 2-6-2004 by Optimist]

stats stats stats,

go look at mashud's stats before the match, would you have thought he would make a century? No, but he did didnt he?

paco
June 2, 2004, 08:44 AM
All - let's not get blue in the face trying to defend our predictions - friday will be here soon enough and we'll find out, won't we ?

Cheers.

[Edited on 2-6-2004 by paco]

Optimist
June 2, 2004, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by EngWIndian


stats stats stats,

go look at mashud's stats before the match, would you have thought he would make a century? No, but he did didnt he? [/quote]

So we should have said Rafique and Mashud are great batsmen! Man, we have two great batsmen coming at number 8 and 9 --- bring on Lillie, Thompson, Holding, Marshall, garner roberts, Ambrose, Walsh, Warne, Murali, Ramadin, Valentine!

EngWIndian
June 2, 2004, 09:08 AM
bring on Lillie, Thompson, Holding, Marshall, garner roberts, Ambrose, Walsh, Warne, Murali, Ramadin, Valentine!


Sarwan worked just fine:)

Ahmed_B
June 2, 2004, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by paco
All - let's not get blue in the face trying to defend our predictions - friday will be here soon enough and we'll find out, won't we ?

Well said paco... predictions and maths on this board wil not do any good ... neither it will cool down the WI fans who are on this board!

I'm sure BD will surprise WI once more (in positive sense) in next match.
the WI'ans seem to be so very much high-speaking about the jamaican pitch!
i wonder if they know tht BD performance started growing upwards with the matches in AUS... who hav fastest pitches also!

Lets hope WI team stands as strong as their fans stand with their 'WILD Predictions' .... and ofcourse their PRIDE that comes more from their past than their present team standard(I'm afraid very few WI fans probably will frankly admit what i just typed here)!!

[Edited on 2-6-2004 by crickethorizon]

Optimist
June 2, 2004, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by EngWIndian

bring on Lillie, Thompson, Holding, Marshall, garner roberts, Ambrose, Walsh, Warne, Murali, Ramadin, Valentine!


Sarwan worked just fine:)
We have no problem as long as our No 8 and 9 thrash the fearsome (!) pace quatret!!! Let Sarwan take some wickets....We don't want to bat the whole five days!!

mzia
June 2, 2004, 12:04 PM
Perdition for 2nd test, no I don’t want to be Jotish Acharzza Surzo-Chandra Bhushon…

But, I think when WI will be in England for triangular with NZ on June 26, their performance will be highly effected as they would not be able to keeping out of their mind the humiliating crush by Eng...

... and non wining performance against Ban in immediate last two test series at home….