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arafath79
July 17, 2004, 02:15 PM
Hey guys,
I saw Rajjak was batting right handed against Hong Kong. He played left handed
against Pakistan. WOW!!!!!! It's a right hand left hand combination, isn't it?
He is a good bowler also. So, we have got a genuine allrounder now.;)

[Edited on 17-7-2004 by arafath79 : a silly mistake]

mahbubH
July 17, 2004, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by arafath79
Hey guys,
I saw Rajjak was batting right handed against Hong Kong. He played left handed
against Pakistan. WOW!!!!!!
He is a good bowler also. So, we have got a genuine allrounder now.;)

Really ... if that is the case, he may be the first player to do so in any ODI.

Imtiaz
July 17, 2004, 04:00 PM
right or left handed ! Can't say that for too many Bangladesh players.

Bangladesh's 8th and 9th wicket test partnership record is higher than the opening wicket !

mahbubH
July 17, 2004, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Imtiaz
Bangladesh's 8th and 9th wicket test partnership record is higher than the opening wicket !

This says all of BD cricket team.

Zephaniah
July 17, 2004, 04:07 PM
Razzaq Raz is a genuine prospect. Mind you he took 7 wickets in an ODI match against full strength Zim-A team. I hear his batting is half-decent as well and with some help from Mr. Matao it could get better.....

[Edited on 17-7-2004 by Zephaniah]

Nasif
July 17, 2004, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by arafath79
Hey guys,
I saw Rajjak was batting right handed against Hong Kong. He played left handed
against Pakistan.

No he didn't. He is left handed. He batted left handed on both matches. Please watch the <a href=http://games.banglacricket.com/media.php>highlights video</a> to satisfy yourself.

His batting isn't bad at all. He will get even better with time. His bowling is excellent. Can generate considerable turn and mix deliveries with speed, loop, arm ball. Really a good prospect for our bowling.

Beamer
July 17, 2004, 07:36 PM
Raj is very impressive. I was watching him carefully and for a young guy to come in and the way he choked up the run supply was very very impressive. He has an armer, line is very good and the best thing is his ability to generate bounce and skid the ball from time to time. he had the batsmen in all sorts of trouble. Great great future ahead. Don't know where they found him. Rafique, on the other hand is slowly losing his bowling ability. he strays too much, lost his arm ball totally and has trouble keeping to a good line. I am hoping its temporary.

TAIF
July 17, 2004, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by arafath79
Hey guys,
I saw Rajjak was batting right handed against Hong Kong. He played left handed
against Pakistan. WOW!!!!!! It's a right hand left hand combination, isn't it?
He is a good bowler also. So, we have got a genuine allrounder now.;)

You are mistaken cos Razzak batted lefthanded in both the matches.

[Edited on 17-7-2004 by arafath79 : a silly mistake]

Nasif
July 17, 2004, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Beamer
Rafique, on the other hand is slowly losing his bowling ability. he strays too much, lost his arm ball totally and has trouble keeping to a good line. I am hoping its temporary.

I agree. I think this is due to his increased speed of his delivery. Now a days all his ball comes around 90+kph. I think its bit too fast and making his arm ball ineffective.

Zobair
July 17, 2004, 11:10 PM
Rajjak has been the find of the tournament for us so far. He never looked over-rawed and had an aura of quiet confidence about him. To come first change in the 14 over to 2 well-set batsmen and not concede a run says it all. Even the great Inzi couldn't get the better of him!

:bravo:

Rubu
July 18, 2004, 12:11 AM
looking at raj, i feel he'll be leading bangladeshi spin attack very soon. a good prospect after rafique. he is tall, well built and moves naturally. i mean the way he balls and moves his body it looks he is doing it effortlessly. and his expression is very confident. i believe he is the top wicket take or the tournamnet so far. just hope after all 5 matches, he'll remain the top wicket taker.

Upal
July 18, 2004, 01:14 AM
I hope Razzak can improve his batting and end up being a bowling all rounder. This is because Enamul Haque Jr. will soon be a regular fixture in our playing 11 and it will be hard to play 2 left arm spinners (this is of course after Rafique retires). Thus, it would be great if one of them could be a all rounder (like Rafique is now) and make it easier for the selectors to merit playing two left arm spinners.

Zobair
July 18, 2004, 01:25 AM
You know what! I believe this abundance of top-class SLAs is perhaps a sign! May be we should have a bowling line-up in the future which would comprise of 2/3 top-class Pacers followed by a trio/duo of quality spinners.


How about this bowling line-up (post-Rafique era)?!

Mashrafee
Shahadat
Tapash
Razzak
Rana

OR

Masharafee
Tapash
Razzak
Rana
Enamul Jnr.

Of course all of them are left-armers but then all of them have their own distinct styles.

AsifTheManRahman
July 18, 2004, 04:28 AM
Well Rafiq should concentrate on flighting the ball more and getting the batsmen to drive rather than throwing it at them at 90 kph. I'm sure he will get around it.

As for Razzaq, he is indeed a bright prospect, and I thought he improved his bowling against the Pakistanis. I wasn't too impressed by the number of short balls that he bowled against Hong Kong. He seemed to have come out of that in the second match.

For me, the post Rafiq bowling era should comprise the following:

Mashrafe
Tapash
Razzaq
Manjarul
Mushfique

I am keeping Mushfique in the team because we will be needing at least one all rounder, and Mahmud will be retiring pretty soon. I'd also like to see Tapash carry on instead of giving way to Sharif or Talha. The experience that this guy's earned over the last few years, along with his performance, should keep no doubt of his inclusion in the team as a regular member in the long run.

As for Shahadat, I don't think he's fit for international cricket yet.

Enamul Haque will have a hard time coming into the team if Razzaq continues performing like he is. He can be fit for tests though.

Imtiaz
July 18, 2004, 05:41 AM
He virtually carried the bowling single-handed. If you go by the test averages [ and, Bangladesh has now played enough of them ], he alongwith Bashar are the only two who can be considered test class. I would also include Mashud for his keeping.

This is first time I have seen Razzaq. But I have seen and been impressed by Enamul Jr. who is really a good orthodox slow left arm spinner of the Bishen Singh Bedi mould. He has a superb loop with control plus the arm ball though it has to be improved. In big grounds , I think he would be very effective in one-dayers. Rafique has become more defensive, hence quicker and flatter since these two emerged on the scene. Is he under sub-conscious pressure ?

At least, the competition is hotting up.

My post Rafique era line up:

Mashrefe
Tapash
Tareq or Mushfiq or Shahadat
Enamul
Razzaq

This would be a decent attack.

Class is more important than variety. If we have two test class slow left arm bowlers I will play both of them rather than some one else who is not up to it only for variety's sake.

I do not have much time for the "all-rounders" spot. They have to command a place either with the bat or the ball. If both, then they are all rounders. Our so called "all-rounders" can do a bit of both. Actually Mashrefe, Tapash and Tareq are reasonable bats. Are their batting averages really that different from Khaled Mahmud who, for some reason, is called an "all-rounder". I understand Razzaq's batting is also quite acceptable. Enamul is of the McGrath clan. The tail-end batting is not our problem !

Zephaniah
July 18, 2004, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by Imtiaz
He virtually carried the bowling single-handed. If you go by the test averages [ and, Bangladesh has now played enough of them ], he alongwith Bashar are the only two who can be considered test class. I would also include Mashud for his keeping.

This is first time I have seen Razzaq. But I have seen and been impressed by Enamul Jr. who is really a good orthodox slow left arm spinner of the Bishen Singh Bedi mould. He has a superb loop with control plus the arm ball though it has to be improved. In big grounds , I think he would be very effective in one-dayers. Rafique has become more defensive, hence quicker and flatter since these two emerged on the scene. Is he under sub-conscious pressure ?

At least, the competition is hotting up.

My post Rafique era line up:

Mashrefe
Tapash
Tareq or Mushfiq or Shahadat
Enamul
Razzaq

This would be a decent attack.

Class is more important than variety. If we have two test class slow left arm bowlers I will play both of them rather than some one else who is not up to it only for variety's sake.

I do not have much time for the "all-rounders" spot. They have to command a place either with the bat or the ball. If both, then they are all rounders. Our so called "all-rounders" can do a bit of both. Actually Mashrefe, Tapash and Tareq are reasonable bats. Are their batting averages really that different from Khaled Mahmud who, for some reason, is called an "all-rounder". I understand Razzaq's batting is also quite acceptable. Enamul is of the McGrath clan. The tail-end batting is not our problem !

You make sense dude. I like what i read. I somewhat feel the same way. But i can't help but to disagree with your selection of Tareq Aziz. He doesn't promise to be test/ODI class. Rest is fine and sounds perfect to me.

Ibrahim
July 18, 2004, 11:57 AM
It is really bad news for us. Please take a look at the link.

Bangladesh spinner reported
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/3905093.stm

Ibrahim
July 18, 2004, 12:02 PM
Bangladesh spinner reported


Razzaq made his international debut in the 2004 Asia Cup
Bangladesh spinner Abdur Razzaq has been reported by the International Cricket Council for having a suspected illegal bowling action.

The left-armer, 22, was reported by umpires after the Asia Cup game between Bangladesh and Pakistan on Saturday.

Razzaq has been referred to stage one of the ICC process, which means he can continue to play international cricket while working with specialist advisors.

His action has been questioned before by local umpires in Bangladesh.

ICC Match Referee Roshan Mahanama said: "The umpires were of the opinion that the player's action needed to be looked at.

"It is in the best interests of the player that this is done at this early stage of his career."

Source: BBC Sport

Rubu
July 18, 2004, 12:04 PM
damn!!

thats the last thing we needed. just when we see a bright young prospect, we are in front of a question mark. well, was it actually his action or was it because the umpires knew about the rumor and everything looked suspecious in his eyes? his action looked pretty normal to me. but again, what do i know?