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fwullah
August 26, 2004, 10:45 AM
Shall we now focus our attention to the Ireland tour? We already know that Ireland beat West Indies recently, and are in good form.

Are there any other info on Ireland? Today's TV news said that our 2 matches on 29th and the 30th August will be in Belfast.

And here is the Irish cricket's homepage:

Irish cricket union (http://www.cricketeurope.org/IRELAND/home.shtml)

oracle
August 26, 2004, 11:12 AM
Yes. I took the liberty of introducing myself to them in their readers forum. Love to get some fan interaction and information about their cricket as details are rather sketchy.

oracle
August 26, 2004, 11:19 AM
Irish Cricket Union (http://www.cricketeurope.org/SCRIPTDATA/csArticles/articles/000009/000997.shtml)


Meanwhile final preparations are being made for the two internationals which are part of the Bangladeshi preparations for the ICC Champions’ Trophy in England in September. The visitors fly into Belfast on Friday and will practice at the Stormont Civil Service grounds on Saturday.




“These are important games for Ireland”, says national coach, Adrian Birrell.




After our hugely disappointing defeat by Scotland in the European Zone decider of the ICC inter-Continental Cup, the games will be a great opportunity to get us back on track.




“Remember, Bangladesh enjoy full Test status and good performances against them will reflect well in the eyes of the ICC. They will also serve as an important part of our overall preparation for the ICC Trophy in Ireland next summer

Rubu
August 26, 2004, 11:42 AM
Ireland's matches against Bangladesh will be known as the Gallery Bar One-Day Internationals.

why are the calling it ODI? or is it?

fwullah
August 26, 2004, 12:00 PM
No - they are One Day matches between two international teams.

But these matches do not have 'One Day International' status.

fwullah
August 26, 2004, 12:04 PM
Hello, they've had tours by some good teams - South Africa A and then Australia A

Tours by Ireland
Zimbabwe 1991
Zimbabwe 1986
USA and Canada 1973

Tours to Ireland
South Africa A 1999
Australia A 1998
Bangladesh 1998

Source: Irish Cricket Union (http://www.cricketeurope.org/IRELAND/DATABASE/INTERNATIONAL/TOURS/about.shtml)

fwullah
August 26, 2004, 12:07 PM
The newly arrived Bangladeshis obviously found the cool and damp conditions difficult and their batsmen, especially, seemed out of touch.


Source: Match Report BD in Ireland 1998 (http://www.cricketeurope.org/IRELAND/DATABASE/1998/INTERNATIONAL/CARDS/bangladesh1.shtml)

fwullah
August 26, 2004, 12:12 PM
Zimbabwe consisting of Ervine, Taibu, Friend, Dion Ebrahim lost to Ireland by 10 wickets (http://www.cricketeurope.org/IRELAND/DATABASE/2003/INTERNATIONAL/CARDS/IREZIM1.shtml)

Zimbabwe consisting of Grant Flower, Heath Streak won by 8 wickets (http://www.cricketeurope.org/IRELAND/DATABASE/2003/INTERNATIONAL/CARDS/IREZIM2.shtml)

Source: Recent Results 2003 (http://www.cricketeurope.org/IRELAND/DATABASE/2003/INTERNATIONAL/results.shtml)

fwullah
August 26, 2004, 12:20 PM
Ireland versus South Africa 2003 (http://www.cricketeurope.org/IRELAND/DATABASE/2003/INTERNATIONAL/CARDS/IRESAF1.shtml)

I thought that you might be interested to see the above scorecard, since we're facing both the teams in the same month. May be it'll help us to spend some free time looking at how South Africa played against Ireland and how Ireland played against South Africa. By the way, this South Africa team is exactly the similar strength that has been playing Sri Lanka right now.

fwullah
August 26, 2004, 12:24 PM
Scorecard of Ireland beating West Indies (http://www.cricketeurope.org/IRELAND/DATABASE/2004/CARDS/102.shtml)

Scorecard of Ireland losing to West Indies (http://www.cricketeurope.org/IRELAND/DATABASE/2004/CARDS/101.shtml)

BD Tigers
August 26, 2004, 12:41 PM
Seems like their openning batsmen (Morris/Bray) are very dangerous. If they score, then can easily chase 295 like they did against WI. But if they fell cheaply then they cannot chase 245. I hope our new ball bowlers will be able to take their wks early.

oracle
August 26, 2004, 01:02 PM
Yipeee got my message thru..:fire:

CricketIreland (http://www.cricketeurope.org/CRICKETIRELAND/DATABASE/FORUM/about.shtml)

it's the small things that make my day, I guess. Welcome Ireland folks.

Mueid
August 26, 2004, 01:13 PM
ireland wont be that easy for bang

sunniath
August 26, 2004, 09:03 PM
i think Bangladesh will do much better than WI in the bowling department. Chacha, Tapash, Babu are the ideal bowlers for English condition, and I don't think that Ireland has the batting depth to chase huge totals against us as the did against WI. But I am very scared with our batting. I wont be surprsied to see BD scoring around 160 -180.

Edited on, August 27, 2004, 2:05 AM GMT, by sunniath.

Mueid
August 27, 2004, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by sunniath
and I don't think that Ireland has the batting depth to chase huge totals against us as the did against WI.

Edited on, August 27, 2004, 2:05 AM GMT, by sunniath.

don be so sure

fwullah
August 27, 2004, 05:36 AM
don be so sure


After watching so many scorecards, now I'm sure that if we play our best side, I can say confidently that now we're in a position from where we can say that yes, we can beat Ireland, but only if we're playing our best possible eleven.

If we don't play our best eleven, and take the Ireland matches as some mere practice matches and try to give everybody a couple of matches to practice, then I'd say that we have a chace to lose 90%.

Ibrahim
August 27, 2004, 09:24 AM
match against Ireland will be very difficult and competitive. Chance of Bd win will be 50/50. But, it would be a very good practice match.

mahbubH
August 27, 2004, 09:38 AM
Since we are losing all the non-practice matches, we should take Ireland/Scotland matches seriously (more than champions trophy matches). Losing Ireland or Scotland will activate the tier-method supporters e.g Dada, Woolmer. I do not mind losing to WI or SA but against Ireland/SCotland? Please don't do that. As a test team BD should win against Ireland/Scotland even with leaving out JO, Ash from the 11.

fwullah
August 27, 2004, 12:43 PM
Ireland 177 all out, BD 63 all out (http://aus.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/1998/OTHERS+ICC/CG1998/SCORECARDS/GROUP-C/BDESH_NIRE_CG1998_OD21_15SEP1998.html)

After this tournament in Malaysia, for this particular match, Akram Khan had retired from his captaincy, Gazi Ashraful Hossain Lipu, who was doing so tremendously well as the manager of the Bangladesh cricket team, retired from his post.

During the pre-World Cup 1999 era, this was the match that can be compared to our recent tragic loss to Canada.

AsifTheManRahman
August 27, 2004, 01:27 PM
Allah bachao amaderke...

betaar
August 27, 2004, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by fwullah
Ireland 177 all out, BD 63 all out (http://aus.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/1998/OTHERS+ICC/CG1998/SCORECARDS/GROUP-C/BDESH_NIRE_CG1998_OD21_15SEP1998.html)

After this tournament in Malaysia, for this particular match, Akram Khan had retired from his captaincy, Gazi Ashraful Hossain Lipu, who was doing so tremendously well as the manager of the Bangladesh cricket team, retired from his post.

During the pre-World Cup 1999 era, this was the match that can be compared to our recent tragic loss to Canada.

could you please not mention those dark days, it ruins my day.

oracle
August 27, 2004, 03:04 PM
At least Chacha made 27. So we know one guy who will not let us down. Agree FW.:)

Bangla Mostan
August 27, 2004, 03:18 PM
yes Mahmud played like a tiger..but we have a good coach and some good players..but wiht a little bit of confidence then maybe we can win with ease..who knows...but this would really be a challenge thats for sure.

fwullah
August 28, 2004, 12:45 AM
Here is another blunder - WE HAVE NEVER EVER BEATEN IRELAND.

We played in only 3 matches against Ireland (or Norhtern Ireland) and the most comfortable situation where we were in all 3 matches, during the 1997 ICC trophy, where we bowled them out for only 129 runs, but we could never beat them as it was an abandoned match.

Nasif
August 28, 2004, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by BETAAR
could you please not mention those dark days, it ruins my day.

Betaar, you aren't alone ;)
I almost forgot that match! Harsh reality :(

Rubu
August 28, 2004, 10:21 AM
well, this could be a true mesurement of where we belong. if we can dominate these games, we can easily say that we do not belong to 2nd tier. but if the opposite happens (god forbid), we are in big trouble.

fwullah
August 28, 2004, 12:02 PM
dominate? I don't think so. Close and competitive? Yes, that's very much possible.