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arafath79
December 8, 2004, 07:53 AM
Ei bowler ta league a Batsmender obostha tight banay diche!!! Is he faster than Mashrafee?:bravo:

arafath79
December 8, 2004, 07:56 AM
Can any one post some of his pics please???

Fazal
December 8, 2004, 11:26 AM
There is one in the following link, but its not very good.

Shafaq In Action (http://www.independent-bangladesh.com/news/dec/01/photo8.jpg)

"Victoria’s medium pacer Shafaq Al Jabir delivers a ball as Old DOHS Club’s skipper Akram Khan looks on from the non-striker end in on November 30 Premier Cricket League match at the Dhanmondi Cricket Stadium.–Independent photo"


Edited on, December 8, 2004, 4:42 PM GMT, by Fazal.

pagol-chagol
December 8, 2004, 12:53 PM
He looks like a giant. How tall is he?

And lefty too!

Mr-khan
December 8, 2004, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
He looks like a giant. How tall is he?

And lefty too!

May be 6-4"

Kana-Baba
December 8, 2004, 01:01 PM
he is indeed 6' 4"

truely a giant

pagol-chagol
December 8, 2004, 01:04 PM
WOW!

Is he the future? Get Akram/Waqar to train him.

Ehsan
December 8, 2004, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Fazal
"Victoria’s medium pacer Shafaq Al Jabir ....


Medium pacer??? I thought he was a fast bowler, anyways if he is a medium pacer then the best he can do is replace Mushfiq.

Btw, he is very young. Borned in 1986.

Here is another pic of the Big Shak. I heard that he is around 6'4

http://plus.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/PICTURES/DB/012002/033426.jpg
Bangladesh Under-19 bowler Shafaq Al Zabir delivers a ball during his spell of 0-6 from 1.3 overs. ICC Under-19 World Cup Group A: Bangladesh Under-19s v Canada Under-19s at Colin Maiden Park, Auckland, 22 January 2002.

Edited on, December 8, 2004, 6:07 PM GMT, by ehsan.

pagol-chagol
December 8, 2004, 01:12 PM
He must have gained a lot of weight (hopefully muscle). He looks much bigger in the latest picture playing for Victoria. I hope he is weight training. At that age he has plenty of growth left to become a fast bowler.

Edited on, December 8, 2004, 6:29 PM GMT, by pagol-chagol.
Reason: spell

Ehsan
December 8, 2004, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
He must have gained a lot of weight (hopefully mustle). He looks much bigger in the latest picture playing for Victoria. I hope he is weight training. At that age he has plenty of growth left to become a fast bowler.

I agree, he is just 18 now given some time and proper training he can emerge as the next big bowling wonder for BD. And yes, with time there is a possibilty for him to become a fast bowler.

chyicarus
December 8, 2004, 02:07 PM
Tall doesn't neccessary equal pace! I think Shafaw-Al-Jabir is less pacy than MD. Sharif! I'm pretty sure about that. The way he's getting the wickets are mainly through line and length not sheer pace. You might wanna check into more details about the wickets that he got to see if he's fast or not! A bowler with sheer pace will have more "bowled" and "lbw"!!!
I still don't think its time for him to play Test cricket- he can be tried out in One-dayers, but Test is a whole different ball game! I like the pace-trio option but fitness should be the priority becoz our future lies with Mashrafee and Talha!

AsifTheManRahman
December 8, 2004, 04:06 PM
not one days either. maybe the A team

Faceoff
December 8, 2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
He must have gained a lot of weight (hopefully muscle). He looks much bigger in the latest picture playing for Victoria. I hope he is weight training. At that age he has plenty of growth left to become a fast bowler.

Edited on, December 8, 2004, 6:29 PM GMT, by pagol-chagol.
Reason: spell


our players need some Steroids (i.e. barry bonds) to get some muscle, can anyone plz supply some for them:)

RazabQ
December 8, 2004, 07:47 PM
ideally we should have had 3-day a-team game against india. Could have tried out Talha, Shafaq & Shahadat against the. BTW in that 1st picture his actions seems to be falling away? Anyone else notice that?

billah
December 8, 2004, 09:02 PM
Height facts:

Shafaq is almost 6'-3", 192 cm to be exact, compared to Mashrafee @ 6'-2". Shahadat Rajib is 6'-1"(185 cm). Nazmul is surprisingly pint sized at 5 ft 6 inches. Talha is a couple of inches taller than Nazmul.

Edited on, December 9, 2004, 2:03 AM GMT, by billah.

Ehsan
December 8, 2004, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by billah
Height facts:

Shafaq is almost 6'-3", 192 cm to be exact, compared to Mashrafee @ 6'-2". Shahadat Rajib is 6'-1"(185 cm). Nazmul is surprisingly pint sized at 5 ft 6 inches. Talha is a couple of inches taller than Nazmul.

Edited on, December 9, 2004, 2:03 AM GMT, by billah.

I thought Talha is around 6', even in the official photo sessiong of the BD team he didn't look that short when compared to Masri. Tapash is 5'8-5'9, that is couple of inches taller than Nazmul.

billah
December 8, 2004, 11:49 PM
At age 18, Talha's height was recorded as 178cm, which is about 5'-8". He is 19 now, and may have grown some.;)

rafiq
December 9, 2004, 12:46 AM
If I remember correctly, Shafaq was one of 3 fast bowlers picked by Andy Roberts a couple of years ago as the best prospects for Bangladesh. It has taken him a while to hit his stride, so hopefully he will continue improving.

(as for the other 2, they were Mashrafee and Talha!)

al Furqaan
December 9, 2004, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by ehsan
Originally posted by billah
Height facts:

Shafaq is almost 6'-3", 192 cm to be exact, compared to Mashrafee @ 6'-2". Shahadat Rajib is 6'-1"(185 cm). Nazmul is surprisingly pint sized at 5 ft 6 inches. Talha is a couple of inches taller than Nazmul.

Edited on, December 9, 2004, 2:03 AM GMT, by billah.

I thought Talha is around 6', even in the official photo sessiong of the BD team he didn't look that short when compared to Masri. Tapash is 5'8-5'9, that is couple of inches taller than Nazmul.

in the team pic...masri didnt look much taller than aftab...maybe 6 inches max...i dont see how masri can be 6 ft. now. also shafaq i think is taller than shahadat...shahadat is prolly masri sized. talha is in between masri and tapash.

AsifTheManRahman
December 9, 2004, 01:43 PM
masri is definitely 6'2"...but talha isnt that tall for sure

bourny3
December 10, 2004, 07:12 AM
I am the same height as Shafaq and am not super quick. I am probably built like he is in that 2002 photo. Hopefully i will bulk up soon.

SS
December 10, 2004, 08:33 AM
bourny3 can you prepare yourself in a such way like what Irfan did to our batting man...not sure how BCCB will pick you unless you give them "ghush" ..but you never know if you can show that you play for Australian leagues or something...Pakistan does it why can't we

Fazal
December 10, 2004, 09:19 AM
Why every one is so obsessed with size? Size doesn't matter ask any []:P

bourny3
December 12, 2004, 06:49 PM
How does pakistan do it? may i ask.

Sovik
April 10, 2007, 05:09 PM
can he swing the ball. we need couple of good pacer in the team

Jughead
April 10, 2007, 06:30 PM
couple of u are talking about Shafaq not having pace and that he is not good enough to play in the test matches. Maybe its time for a reminder that pace is no good without control. Look at McGrath he is not express by any means , but he uses line and length and his height to greatest extent to buy wickets. If Shafaq has the line and length, he can be a genuine asset to bd team. Instead of spraying it all over the place and striving just for pace like Tapash and Rajib ( Rajib though has shown some sign of improvement) .

arafath79
April 10, 2007, 06:44 PM
ei thred ta open korchilam December 8, 2004 !!! Hotat ei April 2007 a alochona keno ?? Shafaq ki kono match a bhalo khela suru koreche ??? :o

gatekeeper
April 10, 2007, 06:46 PM
At age 18, Talha's height was recorded as 178cm, which is about 5'-8". He is 19 now, and may have grown some.;)

178 cm is 5' 10".

gatekeeper
April 10, 2007, 06:48 PM
Height facts:

Shafaq is almost 6'-3", 192 cm to be exact, compared to Mashrafee @ 6'-2". Shahadat Rajib is 6'-1"(185 cm). Nazmul is surprisingly pint sized at 5 ft 6 inches. Talha is a couple of inches taller than Nazmul.

Edited on, December 9, 2004, 2:03 AM GMT, by billah.

Shafaq is 6'4", Mash 6' 1" and Shahadat 6'3". This is official.

At any rate height is not the only thing but it helps.

TheWatcher
April 10, 2007, 06:55 PM
According this chart (http://www.asiancricket.org/v1/documents/03_bcb_u19_phy.xls) here (that was created in November 2003), Shafaq was 6'-4", Nazmul 5'-8", and Talha 5'-10".

Billah bhai got all his figures wrong :)

SS
April 10, 2007, 08:13 PM
Who cares about the height of Shafaq when he is gone and even not in A team.

arafath79
April 10, 2007, 08:19 PM
Shafaq is 6'4", Mash 6' 1" and Shahadat 6'3". This is official.

At any rate height is not the only thing but it helps.

Yes, height definitely helps the fast bowlers. But i don't think Shafaq is that fast. He is not as fast as Mashrafe and Shahadat. Not, every one is Pollok or Chaminda Vaas or Akram. Shafaq should work on his pace and bowl fast altleast like Mashrafe.

AsifTheManRahman
April 10, 2007, 08:50 PM
well according to McInnes, Shafaq used to be pretty lazy and seemed to lack motivation to work hard and improve on his weaknesses. that's why he left him out of his U-19 squad. i don't think he's done anything to note in domestic/A team matches of late either.

Protic
April 10, 2007, 08:57 PM
A pic of please? new pic.

Omio
April 11, 2007, 05:32 AM
Why every one is so obsessed with size? Size doesn't matter ask any []:P
Sometimes..

capslock
April 11, 2007, 07:03 AM
Height facts:

Shafaq is almost 6'-3", 192 cm to be exact, compared to Mashrafee @ 6'-2". Shahadat Rajib is 6'-1"(185 cm). Nazmul is surprisingly pint sized at 5 ft 6 inches. Talha is a couple of inches taller than Nazmul.

Edited on, December 9, 2004, 2:03 AM GMT, by billah.


Sorry but that can't be right, Rajib is taller than Masri, just look at any pics of the two together, or even videos of our matches.

pagol-chagol
April 11, 2007, 03:57 PM
Bangladeshi kids are getting taller quickly. I think those days are not far when we'll have a lot of bowlers between 6' and 6'6" to pick from. Hopefully a few of them will have the necessary brain, muscles, drive and aggressiveness.

cricket_king
April 11, 2007, 09:48 PM
Tall doesn't neccessary equal pace! I think Shafaw-Al-Jabir is less pacy than MD. Sharif! I'm pretty sure about that. The way he's getting the wickets are mainly through line and length not sheer pace. You might wanna check into more details about the wickets that he got to see if he's fast or not! A bowler with sheer pace will have more "bowled" and "lbw"!!!
I still don't think its time for him to play Test cricket- he can be tried out in One-dayers, but Test is a whole different ball game! I like the pace-trio option but fitness should be the priority becoz our future lies with Mashrafee and Talha!

Who said anything about him playing any international cricket just yet let alone tests?

cricket_king
April 11, 2007, 09:57 PM
Why every one is so obsessed with size? Size doesn't matter ask any []:P

Correction size DOES matter. The bigger and more built u are, the more power and pace you will have, which is essential for pace bowlers. Lee, Bond, Tait, Mcgrath......ring any bells?

arafath79
April 21, 2007, 09:53 PM
Can any one tell me how was Shafaq's bowling performance in the last or recent doemstic leauge ?? Good , bad or average ?

Farhad
April 21, 2007, 11:00 PM
Who said anything about him playing any international cricket just yet let alone tests?

At the time he said that (2004), BD cricket was next to an all time low. Anybody would be chosen for the international team if they played even one game surprisingly well. Thankfully, thats changed now:)

Fortuner
April 22, 2007, 04:37 AM
Height facts:

Shafaq is almost 6'-3", 192 cm to be exact, compared to Mashrafee @ 6'-2". Shahadat Rajib is 6'-1"(185 cm). Nazmul is surprisingly pint sized at 5 ft 6 inches. Talha is a couple of inches taller than Nazmul.

Edited on, December 9, 2004, 2:03 AM GMT, by billah.

U got Raji's height rong. He is 6'3"

and Mashrafee is 6'1"

and Shafaq is 6'4"

Talha is 6feet and Nazmul is 5'9". Taposh is 5'6" and so is Sharif.

shamster
April 22, 2007, 08:10 AM
As left handed bowler he does not need pace. Swing and bounce will do !

Fortuner
April 22, 2007, 09:04 AM
Correction size DOES matter. The bigger and more built u are, the more power and pace you will have, which is essential for pace bowlers. Lee, Bond, Tait, Mcgrath......ring any bells?

Fazal is right if he is talking bout a batsman in cricket but for a bowler height matters.being tall is a very good thing.more tall means more power n so on.....

look at most of the attacking bowlers they are atleast 6feet ,above

now if fazal says bout malcom marshal like many other that he was shrt for a pace bowler yet he was gr8. i wld say he was an exception.thats it. jst coz he was shrt doesnt mean every other shrt guy can b attacking

Bangladesh cricket team another Mashrafee who is 6'1" and has tremendous power!!!!

Fortuner
April 22, 2007, 09:06 AM
As left handed bowler he does not need pace. Swing and bounce will do !
left handers wid gud pace are deadly.

shamster
April 22, 2007, 11:28 AM
left handers wid gud pace are deadly.
Any bowler with pace is deadly, butthese guys are talking about height and pace what I am saying is beacuse he is left handed with majority batsmen being right handed he does not necessarily need pace he's bounce (as he is tall) and swing if he learns will be enough.

One World
April 22, 2007, 12:47 PM
Correction size DOES matter. The bigger and more built u are, the more power and pace you will have, which is essential for pace bowlers. Lee, Bond, Tait, Mcgrath......ring any bells?

True. See how Rankin troubled the top batsmen in the world cup.

Tendulkar_Mcgrath
April 23, 2007, 02:33 AM
plzz give some bowling figures of him inleague.. we need tall bowler

arafath79
July 31, 2008, 03:27 PM
I would like to keep an eye on Safaq Al Zabir's bowling performance in the SA tour.

Gowza
July 31, 2008, 05:26 PM
Correction size DOES matter. The bigger and more built u are, the more power and pace you will have, which is essential for pace bowlers. Lee, Bond, Tait, Mcgrath......ring any bells?

size helps for sure but it's not like it's impossible if you're not huge e.g. ishant sharma (the guy is like a stick), fidel edwards, malinga, ntini, even BD's own rubel hossain isn't that tall yet bowls reasonably quickly.

bulky tall guys don't always bowl fast either, just look at andrew symonds, the guy is massive but he barely bowls over 130kph. if it was all about size why don't we have a bunch of 6'5" natural (the ones who don't take juice) bodybuilders leading the bowling attacks in test cricket?

i guess the best body type of a pacer bowler is what you'd call a "young strong straping lad" someone who's reasonably big (but not over bulky), tall and athletic. in general though, to be a good pace bowler you need to be reasonably tall and reasonably built. in terms of pace, well it isn't everything but as said not everyone is a vaas or a bracken so for most pace is going to be an important factor as to whether they can succeed or not.

pappiok
August 1, 2008, 02:56 AM
i cheked in cricinfo.....he is left arm bowler and average is 23.............not bad guys.......got nearly 80 wickets

pappiok
August 1, 2008, 02:59 AM
in list a matches his got 60 wickets from only 28 match.........average only 14.45..........what a performer...........im sure he is better than dollar,sajidul. i can't belive why selector is not picking him...

pappiok
August 1, 2008, 03:08 AM
his average in first class is 23 and got 77 wk and oneday average is only 14.......got 60 wk and only played 28 match.......what a perfomer.......how many bowler in bangladesh is got average like this.......even mashrafe haven't got it.......i got no idea why selector didn't pick him............

Rifat
August 2, 2008, 03:03 PM
why isn't he selected? according o cricinfo, he hasn't played last domestic season... injury?

Dhrubo
August 4, 2008, 12:57 PM
Woah thats a brilliant record,he should play for the nat'l team,he's the perfect 3rd pacer we were looking for.

WarWolf
August 4, 2008, 07:03 PM
Woah thats a brilliant record,he should play for the nat'l team,he's the perfect 3rd pacer we were looking for.
Don't be over excited. Let us wait for the SA tour to be over.

Dhrubo
August 5, 2008, 12:12 AM
Don't be over excited. Let us wait for the SA tour to be over.
So we are versing south africa now,then what about the aus tour?

Murad
August 5, 2008, 12:21 AM
So we are versing south africa now,then what about the aus tour?

Shafaq is going to SA with the Academy team :)

Dhrubo
August 5, 2008, 12:34 AM
Shafaq is going to SA with the Academy team :)
Oh,so academy team is going to SA next,thats nice,so shafaq is actually gonna play,cool I would be really eager to watch his bowling stats in the scorecard then.

BD-Shardul
August 5, 2008, 01:24 AM
http://www.banglacricket.com/html/picture.php?vm=378

from the similar threads :-D

abu2abu
August 5, 2008, 05:44 AM
Sorry but that can't be right, Rajib is taller than Masri, just look at any pics of the two together, or even videos of our matches.

That's right, Shahadat is the tallest National player by far. To my eyes Mashrafe is maximum 6 foot....

Kana-Baba
August 5, 2008, 06:34 AM
Shafak Al Jabir is nothing but a 'Ucha-Lomba DAMRA'

Abid_Khan
August 5, 2008, 07:09 AM
It's good to have bowlers that use their brains to get people out but why can't Bangladesh produce any hot headed crazy fast bowlers that only know one thing in the world; getting wickets?

arafath79
August 5, 2008, 11:58 AM
Shafak Al Jabir is nothing but a 'Ucha-Lomba DAMRA'


Hahahahaha........:floor:

I wish Safaq will prove that wrong to us and truly show us that he is a good bowler with his UCHA-LOMBA height. :D

Safaq is one of those few tall pace bowlers who can generate a bit of pace and swing the ball that Bangladesh has got currently !

arafath79
August 5, 2008, 12:05 PM
Pic of Safaq during a practice match against Zimbabwe in Dhaka 2005 :

http://www.banglacricket.com/pictures/newpic378.jpg

Kabir
August 5, 2008, 12:18 PM
Looks like the Zimbabwen batsmen are happy and Shafaq is upset. So I am assuming he just got spanked.

cricman
August 5, 2008, 12:26 PM
I remember that match heres the scorecard

http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/ZIM_IN_BDESH/SCORECARDS/ZIM_BCB-XI_01-03JAN2005.html

Shafaq 0/94

LateCut
August 5, 2008, 01:17 PM
I am looking for an archeologist! I will have all the info once he finishes digging.

Sovik
August 6, 2008, 10:20 AM
I remember that match heres the scorecard

http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/ZIM_IN_BDESH/SCORECARDS/ZIM_BCB-XI_01-03JAN2005.html

Shafaq 0/94


sakib 0/113 and rajib 1/88.

arafath79
August 6, 2008, 11:41 AM
sakib 0/113 and rajib 1/88.

I know Shafaq, Shahadat , Sakib didn't do well with the ball in that match because they were inexperienced and just started playing for Bd A team that time. Look at current Shahadat(got hatrick against Zimbabwe in ODI) and Sakib's(good allrounder) performance, they are the key players of Bangladesh national team now and I am sure both of them will give very hard time to the Zimbabwean from now on.

Shafaq needs experience too and that's why we better keep an eye on his bowling performance in the SA tour. If he does show very good bowling performance in that tour and continue his good performance in the next NCL then the selectors should consider him for national team soon.

arafath79
August 7, 2008, 05:10 PM
The bowling coach Kalpage tour with BD A team in SA now. I wish he will take the very best out of Shafaq AL Zabir's perfromance. It would be nice if he can just bowl close to Chaminda Vaas then we would have another good left arm pace bowler beside Rasel.

jeesh
August 7, 2008, 11:35 PM
Kalpage isnt the bowling coach mate. Its Champaka Ramanayake

arafath79
August 8, 2008, 06:20 PM
Kalpage isnt the bowling coach mate. Its Champaka Ramanayake

Thanks. I think Ramanayake isn't touring with BD Academy team but KAlpage can work on Shafaq as a head coach too.