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shaheen
December 19, 2004, 04:08 AM
hope this time we can repeat the same score as 1st innings but not the repeat from umpires

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 04:08 AM
nafis lbw

pagol-chagol
December 19, 2004, 04:08 AM
how many times has alim daar f-ed us.

I wonder if his dad died in BD in 1971.

What the f is his problem?

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:09 AM
Who is coming to bat??

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by brikonwall
damn...Ash have to come to back to bat now???? AGAIN :lol:

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:09 AM
Bashar is next

shaheen
December 19, 2004, 04:09 AM
OMAR out! First ball??

Baundule
December 19, 2004, 04:09 AM
Nafis out....why did not Ashraful continue?

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:09 AM
Bashar better score a century this time...

AsifTheManRahman
December 19, 2004, 04:10 AM
wat!!!out!!! just when i said he needs to get a ton? i say kick his butt out of this team.

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by brikonwall
Bashar better score a century this time...

Ha Ha Ha first let him pass 25

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by allrounder
nafis lbw

wat r u talking about!!!!!!????????? :yawn:

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by Baundule
Nafis out....why did not Ashraful continue?

Come man...let him have some rest...

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 04:10 AM
WTF?

sangeet
December 19, 2004, 04:10 AM
Ash quenched our thirst for a fighting test match. We can go home with this, and look forward to the ODI's.

This is awesome. Ash made Pathan an average Joe!

AsifTheManRahman
December 19, 2004, 04:11 AM
oh nafis out...idiot :)

shaheen
December 19, 2004, 04:11 AM
I hope Basher and Javed can continue the remaining over today

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:11 AM
trouble already

rassel
December 19, 2004, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by allrounder
nafis lbw

yes, I apologize it wasn’t golla out it was nafis

i was too shock to know who gat out.:mad:

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by arafath79
trouble already

Kothin somosha!!!

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:12 AM
Irfan is apealing like an ameture bowler...

shaheen
December 19, 2004, 04:12 AM
Rafique was very unlucky to be given out, as the ball had not hit either his bat or the gloves but the shoulder! If he would have stayed, Ashraful might well have made a double century here
Mohammad Ashraful has played a splendid knock and it was a treat to watch. He played all the strokes in the book and was aggressive right from the word go. Bangladesh may have well found their Aravinda De Silva. A small statured batsman with immense talent

AsifTheManRahman
December 19, 2004, 04:12 AM
0.3 Pathan to Omar, no run, inswinging delivery, Omar comes on the frontfoot to defend it, gets an inside edge, loud appeal by Pathan

they just dont know how to play the moving ball

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by shaheen
I hope Basher and Javed can continue the remaining over today

Both better..specially Bashar...cause he got some lesson from Ash....

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 04:13 AM
Are we sure it was a legit lbw? After all it was aleem dar.

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:13 AM
This is a flat batting track now. It's easy to bat now. But Nafis is lbw!!! Bad starts although.:(

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
oh nafis out...idiot :)

Its was a good ball. But still ...

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 04:14 AM
Bad luck nafis. Bugger. Ash will make a duck because he would be tired.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
0.3 Pathan to Omar, no run, inswinging delivery, Omar comes on the frontfoot to defend it, gets an inside edge, loud appeal by Pathan

they just dont know how to play the moving ball

Man, Pathan apealed like an ameture bowler. the ball was going on the fifth wicket on leg...he apealing for anything...

shaheen
December 19, 2004, 04:14 AM
one simple question: Does follow on starts with new ball???

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 04:14 AM
same inswing as in dhaka by Irfan,

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:15 AM
Pathan shalare ekta laathi mara dorkar.

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 04:15 AM
come on have a bash.

rassel
December 19, 2004, 04:15 AM
damn four in the morning. i miss sleep. i hope this partnership stay till tomorrow.


anyway, long live ashraful:fanflag::fanflag::fanflag::fanflag:

Mridul
December 19, 2004, 04:16 AM
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does anyone have idea ...how to fix it?

AsifTheManRahman
December 19, 2004, 04:16 AM
zaheer's tired...lol...runs coming in wides! haha

RazabQ
December 19, 2004, 04:16 AM
a follow-on is just like any innings.
new ball
another new ball after 80 overs.

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by shaheen
one simple question: Does follow on starts with new ball???

Yes

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 04:17 AM
keeper and hits
Dravid on the shin
Haha injure him so he cant bat.

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:18 AM
Good!!! Keep up the good work ... keep the extras flowing left and right...

shaheen
December 19, 2004, 04:19 AM
irresposible attitude

AsifTheManRahman
December 19, 2004, 04:19 AM
score: BD 13/1 - Nafis 0, Golla 0*, Bashar 1*...lollololol

shaheen
December 19, 2004, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by shaheen
irresposible attitude

what i meant

1.6 Zaheer to Omar, no run, pitches on good length and swings outside off, Omar follows it and is beaten

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:21 AM
Javed is very uncomfortable out there...

sangeet
December 19, 2004, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
score: BD 13/1 - Nafis 0, Golla 0*, Bashar 1*...lollololol

Mohd Sami had better than this with us!

AsifTheManRahman
December 19, 2004, 04:22 AM
pathan's making life hell for 'em

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:23 AM
We cannot affort to loose any more out today. Play it save Bashar!!

Edited on, December 19, 2004, 9:23 AM GMT, by Fazal.

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 04:24 AM
What is the score my cricinfo is frozen.

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:24 AM
Ok Zahir, we need some scores, wide, bye whateever !!!

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:24 AM
Ban 17/1 in 3.1 ov

cricket_pagol
December 19, 2004, 04:25 AM
Please pray that bangladesh does not lose any wicket today.

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:26 AM
Javed now have "Bashar syndrom !!! Cool down..

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:27 AM
Oh !!! I have a feeling Javed is not going to last loo lonk this time. What's wrong with him. We don't need any run,

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:27 AM
damn, this India bowlers have a lot of energy.

shaheen
December 19, 2004, 04:27 AM
3.4 Zaheer to Omar, no run, good delivery pitches on the off and leaves him, Omar squared up and beaten, that was very close to the outside edge

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:27 AM
Was it out?

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:28 AM
Returning the fever I guess

chinaman
December 19, 2004, 04:28 AM
Four.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:28 AM
look at Sunil Gadha...how vocal he is now....his voice was stuffed with someone weaner when those kind of decision went against BD.

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 04:28 AM
javed not given out

Mridul
December 19, 2004, 04:29 AM
3.5 Zaheer to Omar, no run, pitches on the off and swings out, Omar nicks it to the keeper, that is a huge huge nick, everyone is up but umpire Benson says not out, what a shocking decision that is!! Even Omar is laughiing, its just not possible someone misses out on such a huge huge nick


Omar should have walked away

shaheen
December 19, 2004, 04:29 AM
3.6 Zaheer to Omar, FOUR!!, fuller on the legs, driven to mid wicket
3.5 Zaheer to Omar, no run, pitches on the off and swings out, Omar nicks it to the keeper, that is a huge huge nick, everyone is up but umpire Benson says not out, what a shocking decision that is!! Even Omar is laughiing, its just not possible someone misses out on such a huge huge nick

good come back! javed

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:30 AM
3.5 Khan to Javed Omar, no run, oh boy! good length delivery, pitched
outside the off stump and swinging away, Omar pushes at it on the
front-foot, ball clips the edged and goes straight to Kartik
behind the stumps, umpire Benson stands his ground!
:bravo:

chinaman
December 19, 2004, 04:30 AM
Another four.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
Oh !!! I have a feeling Javed is not going to last loo lonk this time. What's wrong with him. We don't need any run,

Javed and Bashar needs to score runs...specially now that Javed got a life...and Bashar needs to make for what he did in the 1st innings...

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:31 AM
Javed eibar ekta centuty koira felao. :great:

RazabQ
December 19, 2004, 04:31 AM
I do believe that was a make up call. Has to be! He realized that they pretty much took away our saving of the follow on and now they are throwing us a bone.

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:31 AM
Khan to Javed Omar, FOUR, pulled away to the midwicket fence

Javed dekhi pull korta pare!!:lol:

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:31 AM
Between the openers, Javed was the senior partner. Then why Nafis opend the innings? Shouldn't the senior player take the pressure more?

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 04:32 AM
3.5 Khan to Javed Omar, no run, oh boy! good length delivery, pitched
outside the off stump and swinging away, Omar pushes at it on the
front-foot, ball clips the edged and goes straight to Kartik
behind the stumps, umpire Benson stands his ground!
Indians can't believe it, Zaheer unluckly on this ocassion, was a
big nick


We are supposed get two more of these decisions...

cricket_pagol
December 19, 2004, 04:32 AM
I hope the umpires does not [edit] things up for us... how come bangladesh is always unlucky when it... I guess we deserved the favor from Umpire Beson

Edited on, December 19, 2004, 9:34 AM GMT, by chinaman.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:33 AM
I don't know why Javed cant score against these damn Indian fast bowlers...

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 04:33 AM
Originally posted by Mridul
3.5 Zaheer to Omar, no run, pitches on the off and swings out, Omar nicks it to the keeper, that is a huge huge nick, everyone is up but umpire Benson says not out, what a shocking decision that is!! Even Omar is laughiing, its just not possible someone misses out on such a huge huge nick


Omar should have walked away

Nope, he should not.. We can think of these walkign out stuff when we grew like Australia, India or Pakistan.. Now everything is allright..

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:34 AM
4.6 Pathan to Javed Omar, no run, another beauty, Omar pokes at it and
gets beaten
etober beaten hole cholbena.

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 04:34 AM
Gullu should have walked.

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 04:34 AM
3.5 Zaheer to Omar, no run, pitches on the off and swings out, Omar nicks it to the keeper, that is a huge huge nick, everyone is up but umpire Benson says not out, what a shocking decision that is!! Even Omar is laughiing, its just not possible someone misses out on such a huge huge nick

loving it.. technology must be brought these umpires suck

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by abu_akif
Originally posted by Mridul
3.5 Zaheer to Omar, no run, pitches on the off and swings out, Omar nicks it to the keeper, that is a huge huge nick, everyone is up but umpire Benson says not out, what a shocking decision that is!! Even Omar is laughiing, its just not possible someone misses out on such a huge huge nick


Omar should have walked away

Nope, he should not.. We can think of these walkign out stuff when we grew like Australia, India or Pakistan.. Now everything is allright..

yes, u r right.

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 04:35 AM
Is Sunil or Ravi now defending the umpire, or they are making helpp out of it.. Wanted to know out of curiosity....

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:35 AM
No kartik should have asked Pilot to continue batting in the last innings!

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by Dada Rocks
3.5 Zaheer to Omar, no run, pitches on the off and swings out, Omar nicks it to the keeper, that is a huge huge nick, everyone is up but umpire Benson says not out, what a shocking decision that is!! Even Omar is laughiing, its just not possible someone misses out on such a huge huge nick

loving it.. technology must be brought these umpires suck

Dada tumi aisha porcho.

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
No kartik should have asked Pilot to continue batting in the last innings! Yes, this is a better one..

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
No kartik should have asked Pilot to continue batting in the last innings!

:embaressed:

RazabQ
December 19, 2004, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by Arnab
Gullu should have walked.

and I guess Kartik shouldn't have appead for pilot or rafique eh? At this point, we are trying to save the match against some questionable umpiring. It's all good.

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:37 AM
5.4 Khan to Habibul Bashar, FOUR, edged straight into the gap between
the slip and the gully fielder, ball races away to the third man
fence

Eibhabe edge hole morbi to.

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 04:38 AM
Kartik was NOT in a position to know if it was nick. But Gullu was.

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 04:38 AM
Sumon and Golla should rotate the strike.. That would be more frustrating to Khan and Pathan than these big fours.. I donot like it when they hit 4s comfortably, and then also gets out comfortably...

In my opinion, one bowler should not get the opportunity to bowl more than 3 or 4 balls in a row.

Mridul
December 19, 2004, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by abu_akif
Originally posted by Mridul
3.5 Zaheer to Omar, no run, pitches on the off and swings out, Omar nicks it to the keeper, that is a huge huge nick, everyone is up but umpire Benson says not out, what a shocking decision that is!! Even Omar is laughiing, its just not possible someone misses out on such a huge huge nick


Omar should have walked away

Nope, he should not.. We can think of these walkign out stuff when we grew like Australia, India or Pakistan.. Now everything is allright..

honestly is the best policy......if he would have walked away.....it might turn out well for BD....

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by Arnab
Kartik was NOT in a position to know if it was nick. But Gullu was.
If gullu is, then Sure Kartik is as a wicket keeper

mzia
December 19, 2004, 04:39 AM
Irfan got javed

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 04:40 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
Originally posted by Arnab
Kartik was NOT in a position to know if it was nick. But Gullu was.
If gullu is, then Sure Kartik is as a wicket keeper

That made no sense.

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 04:40 AM
javed gone

sangeet
December 19, 2004, 04:40 AM
ensuing pack of cards!

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by Mridul
3.5 Zaheer to Omar, no run, pitches on the off and swings out, Omar nicks it to the keeper, that is a huge huge nick, everyone is up but umpire Benson says not out, what a shocking decision that is!! Even Omar is laughiing, its just not possible someone misses out on such a huge huge nick


Omar should have walked away

So you are saying, in the 1st Innings Pilot and Rafiq shouldn't have left the crease even after the umpire gave them out wrongfully?

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:41 AM
Ash will come in.

mzia
December 19, 2004, 04:41 AM
Aftab made his signature with 4

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 04:41 AM
It's good he's gone. Not walking then smiling about it...lojja shorom nai haramjadar.

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:42 AM
mor Pathan mor tui.

mzia
December 19, 2004, 04:42 AM
And Aftab gone

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 04:43 AM
gone another 1

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by Arnab
It's good he's gone. Not walking then smiling about it...lojja shorom nai haramjadar.

hehehe.....:(..:E Javed shala behaya. Chorom haramjada.

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 04:43 AM
aftab gone

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:43 AM
good, anothet one is gone. ki korteche shalara??

mzia
December 19, 2004, 04:44 AM
Rafiq as afternoon watchman

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 04:45 AM
another innings defeat

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by mzia
Rafiq as afternoon watchman

hehehehe...afternoon watchman.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:45 AM
Aftab is out...seemed like the umpire gave the out just because Indians apealed very hard...hmmmmm...Aleem Dar is making up for the mistake Benson made by giving two outs...
Ash isnt coming to bat...

arafath79
December 19, 2004, 04:45 AM
Rafique bhaia Pathanre fatay dao. Dhumaiya 4 r six maro.:great:

RazabQ
December 19, 2004, 04:45 AM
I suspect Rafiq has been sent in to disrupt Zahir's line and negate Pathan's induckers. Rana is suspect against pace, so he's the only other left-hander we have. Plus, Ashraful must be tired.

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 04:47 AM
Stopped this walking crap he was right to stay there.. to get decision right is job of umpires and they get paid for that why should a batsman do their job........ I want more of these kind of decisions this helps in routing for induction of technology....

well loving it :-))

pathan on fire.........

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:47 AM
Ash has some hamsting problem?

RazabQ
December 19, 2004, 04:48 AM
funny how dada shows up only when India is showing ascendancy for the 1st time in the day. *pluck* *pluck* *pluck*

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by Dada Rocks
Stopped this walking crap he was right to stay there.. to get decision right is job of umpires and they get paid for that why should a batsman do their job........ I want more of these kind of decisions this helps in routing for induction of technology....

well loving it :-))

pathan on fire.........


Who is this? Indentify yourself. Confirm Bangladeshiness.

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:49 AM
Dada is Bhut, Khokon Ashe Khokon Jai kau Janena

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 04:50 AM
Originally posted by Dada Rocks
Stopped this walking crap he was right to stay there..

No, he was not right to stay there.

The umpire was wrong to no t give him out.

And he was wrong to stay there. Should have walked.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:51 AM
Dada Ashraful-er maar kheye chapta hoye giyechilo....Pathan batash diye foliye diyeche...

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 04:51 AM
Again I am hoping a lot on Bashar.. What a pity??

fab
December 19, 2004, 04:52 AM
Well, he certainly shouldn't have LAUGHED.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by Arnab
Originally posted by Dada Rocks
Stopped this walking crap he was right to stay there..

No, he was not right to stay there.

The umpire was wrong to no t give him out.

And he was wrong to stay there. Should have walked.

So you are saying, in the 1st Innings Pilot and Rafiq shouldn't have left the crease because the umpire gave them out wrongfully?

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:54 AM
They are saying Rafique approched the choach to promote him up in the batting order. Thats good . He is taking batting seriously.!!

fab
December 19, 2004, 04:55 AM
Were the Indians excessively appealing during the last part of our 1st innings?

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:56 AM
Pathan was!!

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
They are saying Rafique approched the choach to promote him up in the batting order. Thats good . He is taking batting seriously.!!
Who is saying that??

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by fab
Were the Indians excessively appealing during the last part of our 1st innings?

Indians always cries....Exemple: look at the dream job thing...

fab
December 19, 2004, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by brikonwall
So you are saying, in the 1st Innings Pilot and Rafiq shouldn't have left the crease because the umpire gave them out wrongfully?

Perhaps he is saying that the Indians shouldn't appeal so much? Well they did, so why the hell should JO show any respect to them? I imagine if he did walk, it would give some people a warm and fuzzy feeling inside.

chinaman
December 19, 2004, 04:59 AM
It would have been a great sportmanship had Javed walked but hey he is not that great and I think we all know it. Then again, there are only few great men out there.

Law gave him right to stay there and he availed himself to that given right.

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by abu_akif
Originally posted by Fazal
They are saying Rafique approched the choach to promote him up in the batting order. Thats good . He is taking batting seriously.!!
Who is saying that??

I think its Atahar. But I am not sure though,

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:00 AM
Sissy Indian keeper is acting now to stop Rafiq's momentum...

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by brikonwall
Originally posted by Arnab
Originally posted by Dada Rocks
Stopped this walking crap he was right to stay there..

No, he was not right to stay there.

The umpire was wrong to no t give him out.

And he was wrong to stay there. Should have walked.

So you are saying, in the 1st Innings Pilot and Rafiq shouldn't have left the crease because the umpire gave them out wrongfully?

That is a different situation. I am talking about Golla's NOT WALKING in the second BD innings. Do you know how to read?

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:01 AM
55/3

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:01 AM
Yo Arnab...I asked you a question, answer that if you have any logical brain..

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by Arnab
Originally posted by brikonwall
Originally posted by Arnab
Originally posted by Dada Rocks
Stopped this walking crap he was right to stay there..

No, he was not right to stay there.

The umpire was wrong to no t give him out.

And he was wrong to stay there. Should have walked.

So you are saying, in the 1st Innings Pilot and Rafiq shouldn't have left the crease because the umpire gave them out wrongfully?

That is a different situation. I am talking about Golla's NOT WALKING in the second BD innings. Do you know how to read?

Dude you don't know how to think...and yes I know how to read and that's why I asked you that question...good thing that your fragile brain couldn't understand the question

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 05:03 AM
Originally posted by brikonwall
Yo Arnab...I asked you a question, answer that if you have any logical brain..

I have enough logical brain. You don't. Golla's situation is different from that of Pilot's in the first innings. Get it?

RazabQ
December 19, 2004, 05:03 AM
I would rather that we draw fighting tooth and nail and availing ourselves of every opportunity within the law instead of being "honorable gentleman" and losing. If some posters here want to feel BD to be honorable losers, that's their prerogative. I think the majority of ppl in Bangladesh want their team to win. Fancy gestures are not a luxury the impoverished can afford.

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 05:03 AM
Don't feel safe.. They are going too fast...

Shish Ahmed
December 19, 2004, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
Originally posted by abu_akif
Originally posted by Fazal
They are saying Rafique approched the choach to promote him up in the batting order. Thats good . He is taking batting seriously.!!
Who is saying that??

I think its Atahar. But I am not sure though,


The real reason is its a team thing. Rafiq has come because the spinners are due a bowl and Rafiq will play shots against their spinners and hopefully blow them away!!

fab
December 19, 2004, 05:05 AM
Look. If a batsman walks, that's fantastic. But if he doesn't it's not the end of the world (as some members of this board make it out to be)

chinaman
December 19, 2004, 05:05 AM
No personal attack please.

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 05:06 AM
17 ovres more, if these two can stay until the end, I am sure that we are not loosing by inings again.

fab
December 19, 2004, 05:06 AM
But if JO was LAUGHING about not being given an out, then he is nothing more than an idiot.

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:07 AM
There are no greatman out there ...... Gilly appeals for catch when there is no edge.. this all walking drama is new hogwash.. nobody ever walked when their batting was fragile and take it from me the moment their batitng line-up weakens he will stop walking...........

Yes I do not support walking umpires are paid to do their job and they [edit] get it right else let the technology take over these idiots...

and yes I am indian not bangladeshi.. yet loved the knock of Ashraful such a breathe of fresh air when some young guy plays such an attacking knock..........

Edited on, December 19, 2004, 10:10 AM GMT, by chinaman.
Reason: Please maintain a G rated environment. Thank you.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by abu_akif
17 ovres more, if these two can stay until the end, I am sure that we are not loosing by inings again.

I was thinking more about a draw

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 05:07 AM
Raw-freak should slow down now.. He is hitting too much...

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:07 AM
lot of overs to come yet.

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by razabq
I would rather that we draw fighting tooth and nail and availing ourselves of every opportunity within the law instead of being "honorable gentleman" and losing. If some posters here want to feel BD to be honorable losers, that's their prerogative. I think the majority of ppl in Bangladesh want their team to win. Fancy gestures are not a luxury the impoverished can afford.

These are not "fancy" gestures, or "honorable" gestures, they are morally right actions.

They do NOT depend on what the majority of people think.

They are not actions bourne out of "economical" considerations, hence there's no question of them being "affordable" or "luxury".

Edited on, December 19, 2004, 10:08 AM GMT, by Arnab.

Shish Ahmed
December 19, 2004, 05:08 AM
Rafiq dealing with Indian bowlers Big style!!

Come on tigers :great:

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by Dada Rocks
There are no greatman out there ...... Gilly appeals for catch when there is no edge.. this all walking drama is new hogwash.. nobody ever walked when their batting was fragile and take it from me the moment their batitng line-up weakens he will stop walking...........

Yes I do not support walking umpires are paid to do their job and they [edit] get it right else let the technology take over these idiots...

and yes I am indian not bangladeshi.. yet loved the knock of Ashraful such a breathe of fresh air when some young guy plays such an attacking knock..........

Dada Truely Rocks:clap::clap:

Edited on, December 19, 2004, 10:20 AM GMT, by chinaman.
Reason: Quote.

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by brikonwall
Originally posted by abu_akif
17 ovres more, if these two can stay until the end, I am sure that we are not loosing by inings again.

I was thinking more about a draw I wish that would happen... But, you know, hoping too much with our team was always very futile..So I am hoping the small one... If the match ends in a draw, I will be the happiest person..

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:10 AM
Run-rate of 6 it's amazing.. even on batting belter never seen this 6 scoring rate.. good loving it:-))

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 05:10 AM
So far, the highest score in second innings: 26 frome extra...:joy:

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:11 AM
Oke be realistc I believe at least oen more wicket will fall today

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 05:11 AM
Originally posted by fab
Look. If a batsman walks, that's fantastic. But if he doesn't it's not the end of the world (as some members of this board make it out to be)

It's not "the end of the world" if he doesn't walk.

It's ALSO not "the end of the world" if someone correctly points out his not-walking was wrong.

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 05:11 AM
Shokun Akasee

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:12 AM
Originally posted by Arnab
Originally posted by brikonwall
Yo Arnab...I asked you a question, answer that if you have any logical brain..

I have enough logical brain. You don't. Golla's situation is different from that of Pilot's in the first innings. Get it?

How is it different? Aren't we talking about OUTs? I mean if you expect batsman to walk away because though he was out but was given not out. Shouldn't you expect a batsman to stay at the crease even after he was given out when he was not out?

Read it and think very carefullybefore answering it...you should understand my point.

mzia
December 19, 2004, 05:12 AM
Nice matured shot by rafique 4

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:12 AM
JO must be dropped.

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by bourny3
JO must be dropped.

Even he stayed long in 1st innings, he was not comfortable at all

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by Dada Rocks
There are no greatman out there ...... Gilly appeals for catch when there is no edge.. this all walking drama is new hogwash.. nobody ever walked when their batting was fragile and take it from me the moment their batitng line-up weakens he will stop walking...........

Yes I do not support walking umpires are paid to do their job and they fuccking get it right else let the technology take over these idiots...

and yes I am indian not bangladeshi.. yet loved the knock of Ashraful such a breathe of fresh air when some young guy plays such an attacking knock..........

I love you man...:bravo::bravo::bravo:

RazabQ
December 19, 2004, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by Arnab
Originally posted by razabq
I would rather that we draw fighting tooth and nail and availing ourselves of every opportunity within the law instead of being "honorable gentleman" and losing. If some posters here want to feel BD to be honorable losers, that's their prerogative. I think the majority of ppl in Bangladesh want their team to win. Fancy gestures are not a luxury the impoverished can afford.

These are not "fancy" gestures, or "honorable" gestures, they are morally right actions.

They do NOT depend on what the majority of people think.

They are not actions bourne out of "economical" considerations, hence there's no question of them being "affordable" or "luxury".

Edited on, December 19, 2004, 10:08 AM GMT, by Arnab.

There are no morals in war. Cricket is a gladiatorial sport that simulates war. Kill or be killed. Simple as that.


True, majority does not dictate one's individual morals but guess what, social morality and legal structure is very much a function of the mass thought.

There is such a thing as "figure of speech". Use of the word "impoverished" does not require the presence of the Cobb-Douglas function. We are starving of success, and lacking in talent. Hence I stand by my argument.

mzia
December 19, 2004, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by bourny3
JO must be dropped.

who will catch?

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:15 AM
Exactly he couldnt play himself into form could he so he must go back to the domestic games.

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:15 AM
this will be a 4 day test match, with an innings defeat.?

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:15 AM
Why and how the run rate is so high?

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:16 AM
Rana will catch.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by allrounder
this will be a 4 day test match, with an innings defeat.?

I want a draw.

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by brikonwall
Why and how the run rate is so high?

They are useing it as a practice match for one day series I guess

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:17 AM
Because Rafique is soo good.

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by brikonwall
Originally posted by Arnab
Originally posted by brikonwall
Yo Arnab...I asked you a question, answer that if you have any logical brain..

I have enough logical brain. You don't. Golla's situation is different from that of Pilot's in the first innings. Get it?

How is it different? Aren't we talking about OUTs? I mean if you expect batsman to walk away because though he was out but was given not out. Shouldn't you expect a batsman to stay at the crease even after he was given out when he was not out?

Read it and think very carefullybefore answering it...you should understand my point.

Yes, I very well know what you are saying. They are different situations.

In Pilot's case, the umpire made a factual error. The umpire did not maliciously gave Pilot out. The umpire was not mrally wrong.

In Gullu's case, Gullu made a MORAL error. Gullu was morally wrong to stay even after knowing he had nicked.

That's the difference. A big difference.

mzia
December 19, 2004, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by allrounder
this will be a 4 day test match, with an innings defeat.?

Bashar should think in different, this an opportunity to regain what he lossing?

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:19 AM
By the way, I am impressed with both the Dhaka and Chittagong wickets....good job Pitch Curators....We should play on these kind of wickets all the time.

chinaman
December 19, 2004, 05:21 AM
75/4

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:21 AM
rafique gone irfan's 4 wkts.

chinaman
December 19, 2004, 05:23 AM
Ashraful to continue..

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:23 AM
ashraful is in

abu_akif
December 19, 2004, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by allrounder
ashraful is in I am scared... May he misses gettting out and he will screw everything now..

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by Arnab
Originally posted by brikonwall
How is it different? Aren't we talking about OUTs? I mean if you expect batsman to walk away because though he was out but was given not out. Shouldn't you expect a batsman to stay at the crease even after he was given out when he was not out?

Read it and think very carefullybefore answering it...you should understand my point.

Yes, I very well know what you are saying. They are different situations.

In Pilot's case, the umpire made a factual error. The umpire did not maliciously gave Pilot out. The umpire was not mrally wrong.

In Gullu's case, Gullu made a MORAL error. Gullu was morally wrong to stay even after knowing he had nicked.

That's the difference. A big difference.

Arnab...YOU DO NOT MAKE ANY SENSE, I mean how in the world you are not getting this. May be it's late night that's why. Didn't the umpire make a factual error in Gullu's case too? How are you so sure that the umpire did not maliciously give Pilot out? Were you in his brain?

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:24 AM
Well the Ashrafful comes.. Armind de Silva of Bangladesh who will take bangladesh to dizzy heights in near future

rajibpaulrana
December 19, 2004, 05:24 AM
too many indians there

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 05:25 AM
Originally posted by Arnab

Yes, I very well know what you are saying. They are different situations.

In Pilot's case, the umpire made a factual error. The umpire did not maliciously gave Pilot out. The umpire was not mrally wrong.

In Gullu's case, Gullu made a MORAL error. Gullu was morally wrong to stay even after knowing he had nicked.

That's the difference. A big difference.

In Pilot's case the wk-keeper was in much better position to know that the ball was not nicked. IN that case IND could request the umpire to revert back the decision and let him back. It happend before in cricket.


We see those two cases are very similar. I am disponted that you failed to see the simiilarity. Too bad.

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:25 AM
Ash would be seeing it like a beach ball.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:27 AM
The first innings bashing put away all the Indians in hole...now they are creeping out. Actually they were in Pakistan cricket chat room all these time supporting Australians.

moin747
December 19, 2004, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by bourny3
JO must be dropped.

One thing is there our opener problem if one is playing good other is not
in champions trophy and west indies javed was playing good and hanan was not
so wht is the problem there
no permanent opener who can play good :-/

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:28 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
Originally posted by Arnab

Yes, I very well know what you are saying. They are different situations.

In Pilot's case, the umpire made a factual error. The umpire did not maliciously gave Pilot out. The umpire was not mrally wrong.

In Gullu's case, Gullu made a MORAL error. Gullu was morally wrong to stay even after knowing he had nicked.

That's the difference. A big difference.

In Pilot's case the wk-keeper was in much better position to know that the ball was not nicked. IN that case IND could request the umpire to revert back the decision and let him back. It happend before in cricket.


We see those two cases are very similar. I am disponted that you failed to see the simiilarity. Too bad.

Thanks Fazal...

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:28 AM
Rafique or Rana open and bring in Kapali.

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:28 AM
Bangladesh is doing the right thing: When u know the inevitable that's how u should be playing..... I belive had pakistan played in one-day mode their scoreline wud not have been 72 all out......

great batting.. now the geniusAshraful walks in.. let us see how he entertains this time:-))

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:30 AM
What is happening cricinfo has frozen. Please dont be a wicket.

RazabQ
December 19, 2004, 05:30 AM
bashar gone lbw

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by bourny3
Rafique or Rana open and bring in Kapali.

No you didn't say Kapali...

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:30 AM
bashar gone

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by bourny3
What is happening cricinfo has frozen. Please dont be a wicket.

Unfortunately one more is down. Another LBW. and Yes its the Captain who is gone!!

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:31 AM
Aleem Dar gave Bashar out even before the bowler apealed...STRANGE...is that possible in cricket? is that lawful?

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:32 AM
irfan got his 5 wkts

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:32 AM
yeah it is lawful.. u don't have to wait for appeal...........

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:32 AM
it was plumb, we will be done by tomorrow morning

rajibpaulrana
December 19, 2004, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by brikonwall
The first innings bashing put away all the Indians in hole...now they are creeping out. Actually they were in Pakistan cricket chat room all these time supporting Australians. .



thats bcoz pakistanis were supporting ozs when they were touring india

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by brikonwall
Originally posted by Arnab
Originally posted by brikonwall
How is it different? Aren't we talking about OUTs? I mean if you expect batsman to walk away because though he was out but was given not out. Shouldn't you expect a batsman to stay at the crease even after he was given out when he was not out?

Read it and think very carefullybefore answering it...you should understand my point.

Yes, I very well know what you are saying. They are different situations.

In Pilot's case, the umpire made a factual error. The umpire did not maliciously gave Pilot out. The umpire was not mrally wrong.

In Gullu's case, Gullu made a MORAL error. Gullu was morally wrong to stay even after knowing he had nicked.

That's the difference. A big difference.

Arnab...YOU DO NOT MAKE ANY SENSE, I mean how in the world you are not getting this. May be it's late night that's why. Didn't the umpire make a factual error in Gullu's case too? How are you so sure that the umpire did not maliciously give Pilot out? Were you in his brain?

I am making sense. Drink some coffee, then read this:

In pilot's case:

Umpire made a factual error.
Pilot did not make any moral error. Pilot was in NO position to take any moral action.
If the Indian's were aware of Pilot's not nicking, then the Indians made a moral error. But they weren't.

In gullu's case:

Umpire made a factual error.
Gullu made a MORAL error by not walking. Gullu was in a position to make a moral judgment and he took the morally wrong decision.

Get it?

James90
December 19, 2004, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by brikonwall
Aleem Dar gave Bashar out even before the bowler apealed...STRANGE...is that possible in cricket? is that lawful?
No

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:33 AM
rana dropped

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:33 AM
easy slip catch dropped

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:34 AM
16.2 Pathan to Islam, no run, good length ball outside off, and edged straight away to 2nd slip, dropped by Laxman, that was straight forward and easy as pudding !

Laxman continuing his good work...:-))

rajibpaulrana
December 19, 2004, 05:34 AM
go arnab i am with u................

Blah
December 19, 2004, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by brikonwall
Aleem Dar gave Bashar out even before the bowler apealed...STRANGE...is that possible in cricket? is that lawful?

What a bunchful of hogwash!
Are you sure you are not hallucinating?

blah:flag:

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:35 AM
Good work Rana
try and get your pair.

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:36 AM
was the first innings just a once off thing. This is ridiculous. Like pakistan.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by Arnab
Originally posted by brikonwall
Originally posted by Arnab
Originally posted by brikonwall
How is it different? Aren't we talking about OUTs? I mean if you expect batsman to walk away because though he was out but was given not out. Shouldn't you expect a batsman to stay at the crease even after he was given out when he was not out?
Read it and think very carefullybefore answering it...you should understand my point.
Yes, I very well know what you are saying. They are different situations.
In Pilot's case, the umpire made a factual error. The umpire did not maliciously gave Pilot out. The umpire was not mrally wrong.
In Gullu's case, Gullu made a MORAL error. Gullu was morally wrong to stay even after knowing he had nicked.
That's the difference. A big difference.
Arnab...YOU DO NOT MAKE ANY SENSE, I mean how in the world you are not getting this. May be it's late night that's why. Didn't the umpire make a factual error in Gullu's case too? How are you so sure that the umpire did not maliciously give Pilot out? Were you in his brain?
I am making sense. Drink some coffee, then read this:
In pilot's case:
Umpire made a factual error.
Pilot did not make any moral error. Pilot was in NO position to take any moral action.
If the Indian's were aware of Pilot's not nicking, then the Indians made a moral error. But they weren't.
In gullu's case:
Umpire made a factual error.
Gullu made a MORAL error by not walking. Gullu was in a position to make a moral judgment and he took the morally wrong decision.
Get it?

DUDE...I am not gonna say anything else...you proved yourself through your words.....just one advise, read your last post and find out what is wrong with the picture u drew...If you cant find it, i will suggest you to take some logic class...:fanflag:

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:37 AM
Daddu save us from the morality crap......... Umpires the idiots are paid to get the decision right and unless they give out there is no sense in walking........

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 05:37 AM
Show your worth Rana. This is your last chance in the series to prove your case !!!

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 05:38 AM
Rana is gone !!!

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 05:38 AM
Will be over in 3 days.

chinaman
December 19, 2004, 05:38 AM
And Rana departs

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:38 AM
duck
rana

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by Dada Rocks
Daddu save us from the morality crap......... Umpires the idiots are paid to get the decision right and unless they give out there is no sense in walking........

Thank you, can you make Arnab understand this...he seems to be having some serious understanding problem about this...

RazabQ
December 19, 2004, 05:39 AM
like I said in the last post - there are no morals in war. Or look at it another way. I love cricket. All is fair in love and war :) If I was OJ, or a danguli accused of time wasting, I sure as heck would not hire Arnab to be my lawyer :)

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:39 AM
nice pair Rana.

fab
December 19, 2004, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by Arnab
If the Indian's were aware of Pilot's not nicking, then the Indians made a moral error. But they weren't.
How do you know they weren't? I think you're more harsh on non-walking batsmen than excessively appealing bowlers/fielders (both who are, by your definition, immoral).

PS: Wouldn't it also be immoral for a fielder to appeal along with his team mates (e.g. in the slip) if he didn't know, with any certainty, that the batsman was out?

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:40 AM
i am just wandering what is going thru ashraful's mind.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
Show your worth Rana. This is your last chance in the series to prove your case !!!

He did...deep fried :duck: :duck: :duck: :duck:

James90
December 19, 2004, 05:40 AM
He was trying hard for the pair and didn't fail

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by Dada Rocks
Daddu save us from the morality crap......... Umpires the idiots are paid to get the decision right and unless they give out there is no sense in walking........

go Dada i am with u................

chinaman
December 19, 2004, 05:42 AM
brikonwall

I'll delete your posts if it contains more than two levels of quotes or a large quote.

And I request you once again, please refrain yourself from making personal attacks. Thank you.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:42 AM
why are the Indians are saying "catch it" for all the balls?

RazabQ
December 19, 2004, 05:42 AM
Rana is gutsy and tries but he does have poor technique. Methinks he should go back and learn how to play quicks.

Fazal
December 19, 2004, 05:42 AM
Two ducks? Rana replaces Rajin's place. Who says we don't have adequate replacement?

Edited on, December 19, 2004, 10:43 AM GMT, by Fazal.

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:44 AM
if those stupid umpires didnt stuff it up we woulda made that 8 runs and made it a 5 day test match

chinaman
December 19, 2004, 05:44 AM
Ash gone :-/

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:44 AM
Well walking is stupidity not moral uprightness........Umpires shoudl be

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by chinaman
brikonwall

I'll delete your posts if it contains more than two levels of quotes or a large quote.

And I request you once again, please refrain yourself from making personal attacks. Thank you.

Sorry...wont happen again...

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:44 AM
ash gone

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:45 AM
Hahha good call Fazal.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:45 AM
Ash gone...so another Innings defeat...cant belive it...

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:46 AM
yes ash is out. lose tonight so we dont have to come back tomorrow

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:46 AM
This is the problem guys..bangladesh should learn to sustain their good effort for two innings they can easily beat teams like zimbawe , Pakistan, west indies....

reverse_swing
December 19, 2004, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
Two ducks? Rana replaces Rajin's place. Who says we don't have adequate replacement?

Edited on, December 19, 2004, 10:43 AM GMT, by Fazal.

Our batsman are too excited after seeing Ash. Mentally our batsman r not strong enough.

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:47 AM
inside edge wrong decision by umpire again

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:47 AM
here you go...another wrong decision against us....Ash wasn't out....This has got to stop....it's got to stop......it doesn't make any sense anymore....another wrong decision by the umpire.....

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:47 AM
Kumble to Ashraful, out Lbw!!, a flipper this time and the hero of the first innings is trapped as he goes on the backfoot to defend it, he is not very happy with the decision

Tha man goes.. so was he out he seems not happy but to me on backfoot and flipper tels should be plumb.. did he get bat on it???

Another case for technology induction if umpirs fuccked up this one too

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:48 AM
Dada how come you did not add india's name?

Arnab
December 19, 2004, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by fab
Originally posted by Arnab
If the Indian's were aware of Pilot's not nicking, then the Indians made a moral error. But they weren't.
How do you know they weren't? I think you're more harsh on non-walking batsmen than excessively appealing bowlers/fielders (both who are, by your definition, immoral).

PS: Wouldn't it also be immoral for a fielder to appeal along with his team mates (e.g. in the slip) if he didn't know, with any certainty, that the batsman was out?

No, I am not being more harsh. Javed SURELY knew that he nicked. Therefore his decision of not walking is grossly immoral.

On the other hand, it's not immoral for fielders to APPEAL for an out. When a bowlers bowl out a batsman or a fielder catches a ball coming from a solid shot, nobody appeals. The fact that the batsman is out is overly obvious. But in other cases, when there is a doubt, the fielders have the moral right to appeal.

Only if it was BLATANTLY clear that the fielder KNEW the batsman was not out, then the fielder is doing a grossly immoral thing. Such as Steve Waugh knowingly taking a bounced catch of Lara.

The degree of wrongnes of a moral crime depends on the knowledge of the agents involved who are supposed to take a moral action and their subsequent action in light of that knowledge.

Edited on, December 19, 2004, 10:50 AM GMT, by Arnab.

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:49 AM
he did get the bat on the ball and the umpire did not hear it.

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:49 AM
wonder what Arnab has to say about Ash's out...perhaps "GD Indians don't have any moral"...

RazabQ
December 19, 2004, 05:49 AM
aaaaaaaargh!!!
ok, I am urging the public of Chittagong to give this Benson fellow a gono dholai. Plz. heck I'll even send some hard earned dollars your way as a reward. bhai eto gaaali mukh diye aschey

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:49 AM
thats 3 **** decisions. boooooooooooo to the umpires

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:50 AM
gone pilot

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:50 AM
Well do nto asl too much.. get good toporer batsman then may be... India's batting is too strong and that .. bowling sucks at times though

fab
December 19, 2004, 05:51 AM
How can umpires make SO many mistakes on the one day? Unbelievable..

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:52 AM
Well done pilot you are the best. boooooooooooo BD.

moin747
December 19, 2004, 05:52 AM
80/7

brikonwall
December 19, 2004, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by Arnab

No, I am not being more harsh. Javed SURELY knew that he nicked. Therefore his decision of not walking is grossly immoral.

On the other hand, it's not immoral for fielders to APPEAL for an out. When a bowlers bowl out a batsman or a fielder catches a ball coming from a solid shot, nobody appeals. The fact that the batsman is out is overly obvious. But in other cases, when there is a doubt, the fielders have the moral right to appeal.

Only if it was BLATANTLY clear that the fielder KNEW the batsman was not out, then the fielder is doing a grossly immoral thing. Such as Steve Waugh knowingly taking a bounced catch of Lara.

The degree of wrongnes of a moral crime depends on the knowledge of the agents involved who are supposed to take a moral action and their subsequent action in light of that knowledge.

Edited on, December 19, 2004, 10:50 AM GMT, by Arnab.

And this way and that way....And this way and that way....And this way and that way....And this way and that way....And this way and that way....And this way and that way....And this way and that way....And this way and that way....And this way and that way....Yeah, you make very good sense to :fire:

allrounder
December 19, 2004, 05:52 AM
cannot believe only 20 overs for our innings after such an effort.

Dada Rocks
December 19, 2004, 05:52 AM
Bloody umpires ruined all the fun was looking forward to Ashraful's second knock:-((

Bring in the technology umpires all around the world suck these days

bourny3
December 19, 2004, 05:53 AM
Nazmul ahead of Talha.