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pagol-chagol
January 6, 2005, 11:05 AM
I am surprised everyone isn't talking about this.

This is not the Rajin we have known for years. Basher seems much less out of control. Ash has grown up suddenly. I don't think all of these can be attributed to mediocre competition. I think they will continue their new found demeanor against any competition.

Even Mashrafee seems so much better at batting after the injury. I think he must have practiced batting a lot since he couldn't bowl for months. (like Sharif) Suddenly Taposh, Tarek Aziz and Talha are batting well too.

What the heck happened?

pagol-chagol
January 6, 2005, 11:26 AM
I would be tempted to say all Rajin needs to do tomorrow is to survive the first session - every thing else will just happen by itself. But, I will refrain from saying that to the new Rajin. He should keep doing what he has been doing since the 3rd ODI. That is the Rajin that has the most potential. The previous Rajin has served its purposes when all we needed to do was save faces. Then that Rajin fizzled. I thought even if we get that Rajin back to form he may be obsolete for us. And just when we needed a new kind of Rajin for the new dawn of the Bangladesh team, he evolved and came back lke the Pheonix.

Fazal
January 6, 2005, 11:40 AM
Also even though its too early., I see some hints of progress in Nafis and Aftab.

Nafis is playing Test as test match and playing with confidence. He just scored his 2nd 50 in 5 tests. I don't know how Aftab will perform tomorrow, but he is playing with confidence after some lean time.

And surprise! No Golla yet by our top 6 batsman!


If I see the batting line-up, suddenly its not bad at all. Now Javed looks like the weakest link even after his 33 run off 110 balls.

Even in a gloomy day (in DC), things look so bright !!!

Edited on, January 6, 2005, 4:41 PM GMT, by Fazal.

AGC
January 6, 2005, 11:49 AM
Batting has improved a lot. This shows how important confidence is for the bd batsmen. They are confident after the India tour and this shows in todays performance. Hope they can keep it up.

pagol-chagol
January 6, 2005, 11:58 AM
[i]

And surprise! No Golla yet by our top 6 batsman!



Not only no gollas. No single digit OUTs yet. And every player was involved in atleast one 50 run partnerships.

ZunaidH
January 6, 2005, 11:59 AM
tomorrow BD should pile on runs and inflict a scar on Zimbabwe to last a lifetime and scare the daylights out of the Zimbabwe bowlers. Revenge time for all the ICC matches we lost and never went to the world cups.

Ahmed_B
January 6, 2005, 12:22 PM
best of luck for the 2nd day!

rafiq
January 6, 2005, 12:27 PM
I think the 700 odd runs Sri Lanka scored on this Zimbabwe team left some scars - our innings so far is a good one, but not yet worthy of scars. Let's not get carried away...

pagol-chagol
January 6, 2005, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by rafiq
I think the 700 odd runs Sri Lanka scored on this Zimbabwe team left some scars - our innings so far is a good one, but not yet worthy of scars. Let's not get carried away...

What Ghor-jamai means is that it heals a lot of his scars. ;)

ZunaidH
January 6, 2005, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
Originally posted by rafiq
I think the 700 odd runs Sri Lanka scored on this Zimbabwe team left some scars - our innings so far is a good one, but not yet worthy of scars. Let's not get carried away...

What Ghor-jamai means is that it heals a lot of his scars. ;)

Maybe you're right P-C!

I never watched the ICC matches but I did go to Dhaka stadium carrying a panasonic transistor sitting at the east-end gallery (Dhaka Stadium) watched test players scare the crap out of us and listened to Khoda Box Mridha analyzing our batsmen. May be it does help to get even. Now is our chance and we should turn the pressure on. I am sure Bashar, Omar et. al have been to some of the games I have been to, in Dhaka, in the 80s.

allrounder
January 6, 2005, 01:18 PM
just wait till the end of the series to assess the players' form. Javed is doing ok. But I see Shariar Nafees coming up.

Fazal
January 6, 2005, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by allrounder
just wait till the end of the series to assess the players' form. Javed is doing ok. But I see Shariar Nafees coming up.

Me too.

So far 4 u-19 players came to played the national team: Nafis, Aftab, Nazmul & Enamul. Except for Enamul, they all survived and doing pretty good so far.
Rafiq, Faruque and u-19 coach praised highy about Enamul.We will see what enamul does.

So the success record for u-19 players are pretty good so far. So why not Shariar Nafees in the next available opportunity?

Edited on, January 6, 2005, 6:27 PM GMT, by Fazal.

pagol-chagol
January 6, 2005, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by allrounder
just wait till the end of the series to assess the players' form. Javed is doing ok. But I see Shariar Nafees coming up.

I am talking about the attitude. Not the form. forms come and go. Attitude rarely changes.

This is a different team.

Rubayed
January 6, 2005, 01:41 PM
Well,,,up till now i see the batting line up pretty decently settled, why bother tampering with it? Although given the right moment the right guy will be chosen but up till now please dont talk about Shariar Nafees, first give those guys who r already palying enough time to proeve them, players like....golla, naifs, sumon, Ashraful, rajin and aftab r the best choice at the moment as the 6 batsmen playing for bd.

allrounder
January 6, 2005, 01:49 PM
I did say JO was fine to be where he is, just mentioned about shariar because he will debut if not this year, but definitely next year.

Rubayed
January 6, 2005, 01:52 PM
Let's hope for the current players' sake that Shariar Nafees wont be needed to be debted in near future and current players will keep doing a better job! If he keep performing consistently then sooner or later he will defintely get the nod of the selectors! For now my vote of confidence goes to all the current players.

brikonwall
January 6, 2005, 02:51 PM
I think if we (Insha-Allah) win the ODI series by 4th match, there is a huge chance that we might see Shariar in the 5th match. That will be suggestion too. These no-pressure matches are always good to introduce one or two bright up-coming youngsters. :fanflag:

Rubayed
January 6, 2005, 02:59 PM
I would suggest brikonwall to hold onto his wild imagination. Let us win the first test first. We gotta slow down the pace of our dreams.

BD Tigers
January 6, 2005, 03:20 PM
Great batting so far from our top orders. I havent seen all of them playing well at the same time. From time to time I will say that Ash's 158* has changed the face of our BD. They now believe that what they can do. Laxman's 281 did it for India and now Ash 158* will do it. Just wait and see....

Rubayed
January 6, 2005, 03:22 PM
Let's hope for the sake of optimism that "BD Tigers" u r right!

chyicarus
January 6, 2005, 04:35 PM
Always had faith in Rajin. Ashraful- needs to show his consistency. Very impressed about Habibul!

IanW
January 6, 2005, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
[i]

And surprise! No Golla yet by our top 6 batsman!



Not only no gollas. No single digit OUTs yet. And every player was involved in atleast one 50 run partnerships.

The partnerships are the key.

It doesnt matter if one guy gets 8 runs and then gets out, if while he was there his partner got 60.

Apart from Bashar's rush of blood late in the game (O reckless youth ! O fickle skill ! How quickly you betray those you bless !), Bangladesh batted really well.

Another 150 runs will make this a very, very difficult game for Bangladesh to lose.

Ian Whitchurch

scorpion32
January 6, 2005, 05:54 PM
The target should be 120 runs and cross the 400 mark.

pagol-chagol
January 6, 2005, 05:56 PM
Today's bhorer kagoz has a nice article on Rajin. It says how he got his confidence by talking to Ganguli.

Remember Ashraful got his inspiration from Tendulkar right before the great 158*.

I think the Indian team might start charging us money pretty soon. Not only are their advice working, they save us a lot of consulting money.

AGC
January 6, 2005, 05:57 PM
Poor Bashar, missed out on his Nissan Sunny just for 6 runs!

Fazal
January 6, 2005, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
Today's bhorer kagoz has a nice article on Rajin. It says how he got his confidence by talking to Ganguli.

Remember Ashraful got his inspiration from Tendulkar right before the great 158*.

I think the Indian team might start charging us money pretty soon. Not only are their advice working, they save us a lot of consulting money.

Who Bashar talked to? Sehwag ?

fab
January 6, 2005, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by IanW
Apart from Bashar's rush of blood late in the game (O reckless youth ! O fickle skill !
Except he isn't really a youth.. :umm:

Good going by the batsmen, but perhaps we are over estimating their performance? The Zimb bowling attack is hardly anything to write home about. Regardless, it is nice to see our team play like this with such confidence. They are a totally different team, because they KNOW they are better. If anything, this proves that we should be playing more games with the likes of Zimb, Kenya and even Pakistan to improve the psychological state of players.

pagol-chagol
January 6, 2005, 06:07 PM
Interestingly, we got our confidence playing the top teams of the world like Australia and India.

IanW
January 6, 2005, 06:11 PM
Pagol,

They didnt get their confidence from playing them. They got their confidence from playing well against them.

I'd still prefer they played against provincial sides - and the fact that Bangladesh is playing in the Duleep Trophy this year is perfect.

When Bangladesh get chucked out of the Duleep Trophy because they keep winning it ... thats when you'll know you're getting close to where you want to be.

And at that point, you ask politely if you should be sending your Bangladesh A side.

Ian Whitchurch

PS Go read Coach McInness' comments on the Fast Bowler hunt. Thirty kids clocked at or about 80 mph with a slow gun ...

allrounder
January 6, 2005, 08:19 PM
we need bowlers clocking 90-100 mph.

sham1980
January 6, 2005, 08:26 PM
I want to see Shahriar Nafees ahmed too he has shown maturity left handed will give us balance in the top order

sham1980
January 6, 2005, 08:26 PM
Is Shahadat Hossain Really the fastest?

sham1980
January 6, 2005, 08:28 PM
Our fast bowling is looking up I mean 4 yrs back we relied on the likes of Hasibul Manjural and Mushfiqur now we have Tapash Mashrafe Nazmul Talha Shafaq Sharif Shahdat

Ibrahim
January 6, 2005, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by sham1980@hotmail.com
Is Shahadat Hossain Really the fastest?

he is the fastest among all BD bowlers

sham1980
January 6, 2005, 08:32 PM
I saw him bowl for Bg u19 in England he did not look that fast it looked as if he has the potential to bowl real fast but MAshrafe looks much faster .... is Nazmul faster than Tapash

sham1980
January 6, 2005, 08:32 PM
Talking of Fast bowling is it true that once up on a time Md Sharif (5'6'') was the fastest BG bowler ??????????????