What does this win mean?

[Martin_Gough_BBC_Sport]

It looks likely to be Bangladesh's first Test victory, but it's against a severely under-strength Zimbabwe side.

Does that matter, or will you be celebrating anyway? s it the first step towards world domination or were the near-misses against Pakistan and West Indies more important?

I'd be really interested to hear your views, either on this forum or via email, for a feature I'm writing.

Let's hope all goes well on Monday!

[Spitfire_x86]

I think the very near-miss against Pakistan was more important, it would've been much better if we won there.

But a victory is victory, and since we haven't won a test match yet, if we pull victory from this match, then it will be a very welcome one.

[crickwizard]

Yes absolutely. BD cricket badly needs a win and our cricket fans deserve this!And oh yes, we shall celebrate and celebrate... IF they win...a win is a win no matter who is the opposition specially in a TEST MATCH.

[bdboy]

win is win......... in record book it will be listed as win

[fwullah]

Yes, the near miss against Pakistan was more important than our test victory over Zimbabwe, provided that we can win either tomorrow or in the next test in Dhaka (P.S., I'm one of the pessimists around here).

However, I feel that during 2003, except for a few players, the whole team was not mentally ready or grown up enough to win a test match. But this time, except for a couple of newer and younger players, the whole team is ready for a test victory.

This is NOT the first step towards world domination in test cricket, because there are a few players in our current squad who are too old to stay in the BD squad for long (for example, Mohammad Rafique) to be able to gain the confidence to win tests against bigger opponents in the future, BUT, it is the first towards many ODI victories in the future against much stronger opponents and the first of many Test victories in the future; that is, the younger players like Mashrafee, Ashraful, Rajin, Tapash, Monjurul Islam Rana, Enamul Haque Junior - these players will be gaining more from a test victory over the current Zimbabwean side rather than the whole of Bangladesh. Because to them, it is 'just a start'.

[sunniath]

A win will definitely boost the confidence of the players, and it will help them convert the near misses into wins in the future.

[alim83]

Edited on, January 10, 2005, 5:10 PM GMT, by alim83.

[Mav]

Welcome to the forum.

Well, undoubtedly people would appriciate those near missed test victories over Pakistan and West Indies serieses, but however, this is also Zimbabwe`s national side and I am sure Bangladesh team isn`t looking them as a weaker opponent.

The peple of Bangladesh is looking towards a win on this one and the next match in Dhaka too. Once we win this test, that will be the long cherished jump start we needed, and once it`s rolling, Bangladesh will no longer be a weaker side in test cricket. I`m sure about that.

And when it comes to celebration, I`m pretty sure it will be huge all around Bangladesh, as it might be the first test win. Cricket stands as a national pride for Bangladesh and people are emotional about it. They will celebrate a win by distributing deserts among family and neighbours.

Edited on, January 9, 2005, 5:21 PM GMT, by Mav.

[pagol-chagol]

You know, this Zimbabwe team is much better than any Englishmen would ever give them credit for. All British newspapers are going to use any Bangladesh win as "look how bad zimbabwe" is rather than pointing out how genuinely the Bangladadesh team, more accurately some of its players, have evolved to become much better. If this Bangladesh team was in the same situation against Pakistan, they would have snatched out the victory.

[CTazim]

After we'd defeated India fair and square, we touched many nerves,especially in the Indian print media and also in Cricinfo post match articles dominated by anti Bangladesh journalists. If the over confident and arrogant hare rests that does not make its race against the tortoise invalid. I will not consider Zimbabwe weak. They have talented players but Bangladesh has played truly like the Tigers. So, this victory is significant for the psyche of our team.

Your question has the typical connotation of undermining any achievement Bangladesh makes in her stride to establish herself in world cricket. I recall our warm matches in England during our first ever world cup appearance in 1999. We had won our first warm up matches against a British team the British headline in one of the paper was insignificant, when we lost our second warm up match the headline read that the team had crushed Bangladesh (although it was a fairly competitive game back in 1999). Indians have learnt the trick of media bias from the West earlier than we have and we are just beginnig to realize to ignore the hogwash coming out of bruised ego of the Western and Indian media and we are also learning that we ought to take comments, advise and connotations of the west with a grain of salt in political and economic arenas and now in sports and especially cricket.

There is one day left in this match, Inshallah we will win. If for some God forsaken reason we don't, I know what the media is going to say.. at least the back stage is already been created by the likes of you deeming Zimbabwe as "severely" under-strength. If Bangladesh loose every single failure in the 5 day match by Bangladeshis will be analyzed upto the DNA level, if we win every triumph will be reiterated on this forum, on our media; however, in the western media it will always be emphasized that Bangladesh played a "severely" weak team.

[Mav]

Right you are.

[Ahmed_B]

Originally posted by pagol-chagol
You know, this Zimbabwe team is much better than any Englishmen would ever give them credit for. All British newspapers are going to use any Bangladesh win as "look how bad zimbabwe" is rather than pointing out how genuinely the Bangladadesh team, more accurately some of its players, have evolved to become much better. If this Bangladesh team was in the same situation against Pakistan, they would have snatched out the victory.
True enough...
This is why I am utterly delighted that BD played such a good ODI series vs. the Indians immediately before this series...
Lets wait & see if the worldwide cricket media make properly evaluating comments on BD's continued succes... or just try to point everyone's eyes towards ZIM's weakness!! :duh:

welcome to the forum Martin_Gough_BBC_Sport
as this is your very first post in this forum.. would u pls giv some intro on yourself so we can know more pls?
Thanx for visiting our fan site.

[pagol-chagol]

Originally posted by crickethorizon

Lets wait & see if the worldwide cricket media make properly evaluating comments on BD's continued succes... or just try to point everyone's eyes towards ZIM's weakness!! :duh:



Don't hold your breath waiting. Its not going to happen. They have geo-political and economic reasons to bad-mouth Zimbabwe as much as they can.

You need to cut their opinions out of your life to enjoy this win.

Edited on, January 9, 2005, 5:54 PM GMT, by pagol-chagol.

[ZaKi]

CTazim you are absolutely right at the right point :)

[capslock]

Funny, I didn't know this match was already over?

[pagol-chagol]

Originally posted by capslock
Funny, I didn't know this match was already over?

It could still be a draw. Zimbabwe is capable of that. Losing isn't a realistic possibility now.

[Sadrul]

Originally posted by Martin_Gough_BBC_Sport
It looks likely to be Bangladesh's first Test victory, but it's against a severely under-strength Zimbabwe side.

Does that matter, or will you be celebrating anyway? s it the first step towards world domination or were the near-misses against Pakistan and West Indies more important?

I'd be really interested to hear your views, either on this forum or via email, for a feature I'm writing.

Let's hope all goes well on Monday!

It does matter, my dear friend. How can you say that? Obviously a near win over Pak or Ind would require a bigger celebration but this is our first win in the test match wheather it is against ZM or AU. Every game is important for the matter of statistics like when India came to play Bangladesh, they were definitely playing to boost average, etc etc...
We should not take this light at all. In fact I have asked all the Atlanta people to think about how we can celebrate for this remarkable victory. Although I have soemthing in my mind "Khasir Roast" Hope The Atlantanians will come along with this idea.

Sadrul (Reporting from Atlanta - TeamSpirit)

[gravitY]

I don't care!! we need a WIN at any cost, doesn't matter if it is Zim or AU. and i'm sure Tigers will do even better in the serieses coming up, once they can come up with a win. and i guess by now Tigers know what it takes to win a test match, since on day three Taibu was almost taking the game out of our hand, and i can say Tigers be more dedicated on the ground next time. however, this game is not over yet, anything can happen on 5th day as Zimbo's middle order has quite a bit depth in it. and i don't consider them as weak as media-people thinking. but i really hope and eager to see Tigers wining this time, and YES, i'd be celebrating the win utterly.... maximum possible ways

go Tigers go...

Edited on, January 9, 2005, 6:21 PM GMT, by gravitY.

Edited on, January 9, 2005, 6:42 PM GMT, by gravitY.

[al Furqaan]

yes this is not a first rate test opposition...however, if first class cricket will help our cricketers than playin 5 days against ZIM is even better. in fact i am glad zim averted the follow on. now masri, tapash, enamul will learn to bowl 2 innings in the same match. our players have been ahead the entire time, from the start. now when playing stronger teams, and they gain an advantage they will know how to sustain it and exploit it further.

in my eyes the win is tainted slightly becuz its a weak ZIM, but look at the bigger picture, our team is on the rise, and this win will only boost our batsmen and our team's moral. plus the critics can't say much about our cricket. we didnt lose. the positives far outweigh any negatives in this series.

let the celebrations begin!

[RazabQ]

A win is a win is a win. I don't believe the ICC is giving any asterisks to results attained against Zim, so who cares? History will show - if it happens - that BD got its first Test win before India and NZ. That's it - bottomline.

BTW I agree with CT Zim and Pagol-Chagol. A BD win would used by British media as ammo against Zim. British media at various point has featured:

1) a racist moron like Gatting audaciously suggesting that the England going to Zim was more morally reprehensible than his South Afria rebel tour (to an officially apartheid-oriented nation) and

2) A moron like simon something saying, when South Asian teams go to tour UK, they get better curry than they would get at home while the British when they go to India get diarhea.

So all you pessmists on this board - be careful as to what ammo u give Martin Gough (allegedly from BBC)

Edited on, January 9, 2005, 7:59 PM GMT, by razabq.

[arafath79]

BANGLADESH should win the test series by 2-0. Please pray to all mighty Allah for Bangladesh!!!!:flag:

[Zunaid]

Looks like we all have a chip on our shoulders. How quick we are to tar everyone with the same brush with sweeping generalilties. Are we not engaging in the same prejudice of which we are often the recipient?

I thought we were a much more hospitable bunch.

That being said, I have no doubt that this win will be disparaged by the usual naysayers: "Severely depleted Zimbabwean side, haven't played Tests for months, inexperienced, the win means nothing ad infinitum ad nauseum".

Let them be.

We have more important fish to fry. And we hope to gorge on some English fish and chips this summer.

A Test win under the belt will be good. The team and the fans will have something to put on the mantlepiece. Yes, this is a milestone - but the real milestone happened a few days ago versus India. That is when self-belief was born after Mohammad Ashraful's magnificent 158*.

Yes, raw talent can and will lead to bigger and better things once you start believing.

I believe there are 6 major historical landmarks in Bangladesh's young Test history.

- The ICC Trophy win which brought us to the World Cup scene
- The win against Pakistan (inspite of the match fixing canards)
- The appointment of Dav Whatmore as Bangladesh coach
- The heartbreaking 1 wicket Loss at Multan
- The honorable draw versus the West Indies at Gros Islet
- Mohammad Ashraful's 158*. And this is the key turning point.

The recent win against India is not one of these landmarks. Belief begets success which begets more success. Until the turning point of the Ashraful innings, the self-belief was being sorely buffeted.

Yes, we have the talent but..... can we win? do we have what it takes? I am sure such self-doubt was acting like an albatross around our neck. The 1 wicket loss at Multan must have been a terrible blow. We came close but the loss must have hurt and the self-belief floundered. After Gros Islet, the the belief was stronger but the doubts still remained.

And Ashraful changed it all. He gave us belief when all we had was faith.

The ODI win against India was inveitable. If not then but soon after.

The wins will come now. Sooner.

Edited on, January 9, 2005, 9:35 PM GMT, by Zunaid.

[akabir77]

Wining is a habit so better start with that some where...

Also every one is mentioning just the pak and WI matches but what about the Zim tour where we were top on the full zim side for the 2-3 days and then an hour of fast bowling gave away the easy win to zim. I think in that tour the difference between the two teams was heath Streak….

Anyway Bangladesh and All the Bangladeshis all over the world are ready to party If Bd gets this win.. And Inshallah we will.

[bondhu25]

It does not matter if the win comes against Zimbabwe or Australia...they all have test status, so does Bangladesh. When Bnagladesh lost to Zimbabwe or Australia, it was a big deal for all cricket nations. There were so many ugly comments from so called "Cricket Pundits" about Bnagladesh test status. Lets not forget they celebrated test win against the weakest team (BD). So if we win against Zimbabwe (inshallah) it should be seen as an achievement for Bangladesh. It should be given same importance. So insahallah we are going to celebrate Bnagladesh's 1st test win even if its against Zimbabwe.

[RazabQ]

Z Bhai - fair enough. Martin - welcome to our board. Sorry for the vent - but as the fans of the 10th ranked test nation, you can understand if we _do_ have a bit of a chip on our shoulder :)

[shaoun]

this win will give us confidence and prove to that you win too. zimbawe are not as strong as they were before but win is a win. winning the test will streagthen our team mentally. because i think we could of won at multan test too but its just that we didnt know how to win. we werent mentally strong enough to win that test. but winning this test will make us believe that we can win too. very important test if we win this test then the next one we should win more easily. inshallah.

[Zobair]

A win against Zimbabwe will definitely rank higher in my book than the near-miss against Pakistan. When Bashar said before the start of the series that Bangladesh will be battling 2 opponents- Zimbabwe and complacency- he had missed out one other great opponent. I am talking about Tigers' ignorance of what it takes to actually win a test match, and what it feels like to make it to the finish line first. If we do manage to get that first win, believe me, you will see a different Bangladesh take to the field from now on, a more confident Bangladesh, a team that knows what is to be a winner. One can't emphasize the psychological aspect of it enough. If you look around in this forum you will see what I mean. Bangladesh is in an unprecedentedly strong position. Fans of most other teams would sit back, more relaxed, and would have been more certain of the outcome than the lot you see here. The anxiety and nerves that one sees as soon as Zimbabwe post one good partnership, shows our fans themselves have been deeply scarred by the near-misses and the other instances where our team threw away the game after being in decent positions. This win is just what the doctor ordered for us fans as well. I don't see our players will be any different. The greatest beneficieries of this win will be the youngsters in the team who will now have the confidence and the spirit to fulfil their talents, and enjoy the game.

Besides, if the media (including the BBC) are anywhere as consistent, we should be fine as long as we get our first test win regardless of who it comes against. After all, every article about bangladesh cricket must include the dry statistics of how many test matches we have lost without qualifying how close we came of occasions, or whether the umpiring was unkind, the strength of the opponent, our lack of experience, or other mitigating circumstances. So why should our win against Zimbabwe be qualified with how strong the opponent was, when it is mentioned as a statistic, unless there are other motives involved.

And please be fair when you put down this Zimbabwe team. I do not know if you have been following the match live. But if you were, you wouldn't hesitate to give credit to a highly talented side that is determined to put in a bright performance, and that has not given up the hope to enforce a result in their favour despite the circumstances. Mark my words, this Zimbabwe outfit, if it stays together for another 2 years will evolve into a strong world-class outfit.

Bangladesh will have to bowl really well against a determined Zimbabwe side (who definitely do not want to the first test victims of Bangladesh) to force a result in this match. If Bangladesh manage to pull it off, they deserve every bit of accolade that they will get. The media can harp about the "weakened side" all that they want, but we the fans wont care one bit. Neither will our heros. All we care about is thatwe have made our first million and are high-rollers now :)

Having said that we still have to win this match, which is still very much in the balance as far as a result is concerned.

Edited on, January 9, 2005, 10:51 PM GMT, by pompous.

[urnonav]

I am not a very keen cricket follower, although I do tend to keep track of wins! I believe any victory is welcome. If we win the test, this is a starter - however, knowing Bangladesh, this is a fairly big if.

The reason for saying that the win is important is pretty clear - to 'slap' all international commentators who have made slanderous comments about ICC's decision to give Bangladesh test status. Ironically, we've had particularly more criticism from our neighbours than from, say, the Carribeans.

Any good performance in general - and victories in particular - of the younger teams is good for the game!

(Best of luck to the boys - go Tigers!) :fanflag:

[moinkhan]

Let's first win this match; otherwise, the topic will change to "Bangladesh failed to pull their maiden test win EVEN against a severely under-strength Zimbabwe side".

Hopefully, with a test win in our bag, I will come back to this topic, and add a few lines on what this win means.

Go Tigers!

[arafath79]

Bangladesh win!!!!!!!!!!!:fanflag:

[Sadrul]

Originally posted by moinkhan
Let's first win this match; otherwise, the topic will change to "Bangladesh failed to pull their maiden test win EVEN against a severely under-strength Zimbabwe side".

Hopefully, with a test win in our bag, I will come back to this topic, and add a few lines on what this win means.

Go Tigers!

Apu Bhai
It will be very hard to win anything in life with that kind of negetive attitude.

Khashir roast is being cooked slowly tonight and will be ready before tea..You are welcome

Sadrul

[Ahmed_B]

This BBC-guy is very cleaver!!
he just posted one controvercial Thread and then dint say a single word!!!

Just kept hiding behind and reading all the Fan's reactions like a COWERD! :D

[Martin_Gough_BBC_Sport]

I'm trying to write a feature, as I mentioned in the original post, including some of your thoughts on the win.

Congratulations all round. I'm especially pleased for Dav Whatmor, whose frustration was extremely evident when he was over here for the ICC Champions Trophy. The point he made then, that there are some very promising young players coming through, has been proven.

[shujan]

This win saved the face of Bangladesh cricket. It does not shine our team. If we win next test and all other 5 ODI then it will prove that we are far better then this Zimbabwe team,which Bangladesh is capable off. Now Bangladesh team has to prove it. :)

[fwullah]

- The ICC Trophy win which brought us to the World Cup scene


Zunaid, I think you missed a point there. Ashraful had the belief to play that 158 not out if he had not played that 38 ball 50 against the stronger Zimbabwe national team just early last year and beaten Zimbabwe back then. Its all building up one after another - step by step.

That's why this win (now we have won it) will be a step towards other victories.

[Zobair]

aah! why the cynicism and mistrust? Let us always assume the best about people, unless PROVEN otherwise. :)

Originally posted by crickethorizon
This BBC-guy is very cleaver!!
he just posted one controvercial Thread and then dint say a single word!!!

Just kept hiding behind and reading all the Fan's reactions like a COWERD! :D

[Ahmed_B]

why mistrust?:D

look at This Thread (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2cluster2/h2.cgi?x=y&thread=%3C1105349482-29746.8%40forum5.thdo.bbc.co.uk%3E&board=tms.international&mid=247978&offset=0&state=view&sort=Te) from BBC site message board!

Ghor pora goru.. hole ja hoy r ki!
:)

[Zobair]

heheh...I have actually seen that thread already....tao amar mone hoy na eta kichu proman kore :) shekhaneo she motamot chacche!

Originally posted by crickethorizon
why mistrust?:D

look at This Thread (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2cluster2/h2.cgi?x=y&thread=%3C1105349482-29746.8%40forum5.thdo.bbc.co.uk%3E&board=tms.international&mid=247978&offset=0&state=view&sort=Te) from BBC site message board!

Ghor pora goru.. hole ja hoy r ki!
:)

[Martin_Gough_BBC_Sport]

Thanks for your help with this. Feature here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/other_international/4161565.stm

And yes I've included a link to the above thread because someone had to say it!

I've a feeling early-season English conditions might be more difficult, though. Even the more experienced sides struggle in England in May.

[Tintin]

:great:

[cricketfan]

Why have a stereotype of Englishmen as whingers in this forum. There are all types of people in every country.

[mahbubH]

Thanks Martin Gough .. that is a nice article!

[Lipu]

Yes it was a nice win but that was also a very weak zimbabwe team. Of course it's gonna bring some confidence into the side which is badly needed but i don't think it will stop Bangladesh from losin the second test.

I've seen the bangladeshi's play a fair bit now and it's obvious they have the physical talent to play test cricket but mentally they are too weak, until the mentality is addressed Bang team won't be making much progress anytime soon.

[Ahmed_B]

Originally posted by Martin_Gough_BBC_Sport
Thanks for your help with this. Feature here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/other_international/4161565.stm

Thanx Martin... very good article.

and apologies for my offensive comment.
It all came out of the frustration from the continued negative criticisms.

[Martin_Gough_BBC_Sport]

No worries. Your apprehension was probably justified!

I hope fans won't get over-excited by this win, though. Celebrating this one is fair enough but I reckon the displays last year in Australia and Pakistan showed more promise than a win against this side. Bangladesh almost went in as favourites.

[rafiq]

That was fantastic to see our board ramblings make it all the way to BBC!

Many fans here have painted an accurate picture of what this win means. I will say that history doesn't record near-wins. It only records an actual win, which is what this was. It's important to note this was not a flash-in-the-pan performance. As Fwullah mentioned, the team had been building on incremental successes: the one day win over the "old" Zim side, the performance in WI, and then the successes against India. In between there were some forgettable games as well, but that is part of the learning curve.

The selectors have also kept their faith in a core group of 15-16 players rather than experiment willy nilly as in Pakistan. That was important to restore form and confidence as you saw with Rajin Saleh, Khaled Mahmud (ODI) and you will again see with Alok Kapali.

As Bangladeshis, there has historically always been little to cheer for. This cricket team means more than just cricket to most fans. You can't put an asterisk next to that.

[Ibrahim]

Thanks Martin_Gough_BBC_Sport, your article is the best one among I found today's all headlines, because your one is the only original pice of writing which came directy from peoples heart.

We are expecting more writting from you, because Bangladesh cricket gets very little media attention.

[shonarcheley]

Before we coudnt win test matches. The crictics said we were not ready for Test arena. Now we have won, critics come back with "zimbabwe is under strength team" excuses.

Since Dave Whatemore was brought in as a coach, we have improved vastly. When Tigers toured Australia, everyone thought we would be slaughtered. All records will be broken. We were just then baby tigers with no nails and teeth. Yet we fought and didnt allow aussies to slaughter us. No records were created or broekn. We proved all the critics wrong.

On the tour of Pakistan, we could have won that series 2-1. We were always up in all those test matches and lack of experience allowed pakistan to come back and win the series 3-0.

Then came the English to Bangladesh. We again were up in the first test and again due to lack of experience we lost the test match. Secound test Englan won comfortablely.

Tigers then went to West Indies. For the second time we scored more than 400 runs in an innings. For the first time we declared an innings. For the first time we played and we drew the test.

In recent series we didnt play too well against New Zealand and India.

Every big teams has ups and downs. So do we. whats the big deal? Like every big would have thrashed Zimbabew, we thrashed them. We can compete against any big teams. We give them run for their money. We are no push overs.

Therefore, once and for all, critics shut your mouth. And enjoy the first test victory against Zimbabwe.

ShonarCheley :great::bravo::fanflag:

[urnonav]

Hey Martin,

Great article - congratulations!

Yes, we definitely look forward to more coverage of Bangladesh cricket, especially on BBC, since many Bangladeshis, in general, still see that as the best source of information.

As for the comments made yesterday about winning against an "under-strength" Zimbabwean team, well, critiques will criticise - it's their lives' work. Rediff also mentioned about this being Zimbabwe's first match since the suspension of their test status! (Some people never learn!)

Cheers!

-urnonav

[RazabQ]

Martin Gough - thanks for a generally balanced piece. Yes, we fans do have this win in perspective - it will not make us capable (right away at least) of going to Australia and winning 3-0. However what it will do, as pompous said, is that the next time we have Multan or even Dhaka (gainst Engl last series), we will have the faith to pull it off.

10 years from now - who knows :)

[Blah]

Great article! Looking forward for some more of those when Bd takes on England. They may not win (and perhaps they will), but I can bet you a 1000 dollars (or pounds if you prefer), that BD will play much much much better than it's previous encounters.
BD team has never looked as composed or as stronger before.

Cheers,
blah:flag::flag::flag:

[Ganesh]

Congrats to BD for its first win. Hope they continue to do well. :bravo:

Originally posted by razabq
A win is a win is a win. I don't believe the ICC is giving any asterisks to results attained against Zim, so who cares? History will show - if it happens - that BD got its first Test win before India and NZ. That's it - bottomline.


BD did win before India. India won its first test in 25 games. The games were spread over many years mainly due to WW II. But India had to restart from scratch after WW II. Besides India managed to draw many more games. There is nothing wrong with celebrating this win. But, let it not be at the expense of India.

[cricketfan]

India had 12 defeats and 12 draws before they tasted their first victory.So it was a better beginning than Bangladesh.

[mahbubH]

And yes, don't celebrate at the expense of India.

What did you mean by this Mr Ganesh? Is it like I cannot post here (at BanglaCricket) that BD spent less time to get the first test win than India?



Edited on, January 11, 2005, 3:47 PM GMT, by sports_fan_bd.
Reason: what is going on here ....

[mahbubH]

started a new thread with that pompous post (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/viewthread.php?tid=8912)

Edited on, January 11, 2005, 3:50 PM GMT, by sports_fan_bd.

[Zobair]

apologies I will fix this in a sec!

[Zobair]

My apologies...the discussion about critic's arguements against Bangladesh's test status has now been moved to a new thread called "Answering Crictics" :) Sorry for the inconvenience, but that topic is different from the subject of this thread and deserves a thread of its own :) Apologies once again.

[akabir77]

Great Article Martin Gough ...
Hope we will win the next one too....

One thing for sure we were expect to win against Canada too remember WC2003????

So this is a great win and hopefully start of a great ara.. And yeah you r right people should go over board with the win too..

[Ganesh]

Originally posted by sports_fan_bd

And yes, don't celebrate at the expense of India.

What did you mean by this Mr Ganesh?




I have been reading this forum for a while. Some of the posts do target India. Some of them do it quite rudely(Tigerfan during India-BD series posted stuff relating to religion for instance). As BD beat India in a odi, I was among the first to congratulate. Most Indians did. Still there were people flaming India for no good reason. I am not being unnecessarily sensitve. When there is a little bit of history ...


Is it like I cannot post here (at BanglaCricket) that BD spent less time to get the first test win than India?


Factually incorrect for India played 10 Tests less. Besides comparision of very different eras what with world war, freedom struggle and all that in between. Besides, BD was part of that India which played prior to 1947. So...

[Piranha]

Martin Gough,

Congratualtions on a job well done with the article. It was great to see Banglacricket.com on BBC and even better to get an accurate and balanced description of how we feel.

I hope you will continue to disregard the overly cynical comments (as mentione before, these things come out under tense situations). Most importantly, I hope you will continue to write such wonderful reports in the future. I daresay, our hopes and aspirations have not gotten a voice, mostly the naysayers have had their ideas quoted in the press.

Anyhow, thanks for coming onboard Banglacricket.com. We are all set for a amazing (and at times bumpy) joyride.

[Ibrahim]

pretty good article