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amadergaan
January 17, 2005, 05:31 PM
Zimbabwe 298 & 286
Bangladesh 211 & 98/0 (57.0 ov)

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Bangladesh require another 276 runs with 10 wickets remaining.

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Chat : Banglacricket Chat (http://www.banglacricket.com/games/chat/index.php)

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anyways...should be an entertaining day...Good Luck Tigers!

tiger_man
January 17, 2005, 07:50 PM
jetar ekhon bhalo chance ase...kintu pagoler moton wicket gele sharse! :E



Edited on, January 18, 2005, 12:55 AM GMT, by oracle.
Reason: post merged with earlier thread

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 07:53 PM
this'll surely prove our team's grit. lets see how much we've improved.

Cricket46
January 17, 2005, 09:05 PM
Does anyone know if the match starts early today?

sunniath
January 17, 2005, 09:18 PM
we should play carefully unitl tea.if we have enough wickets left after tea,only then we should try to win the match.

islam
January 17, 2005, 09:39 PM
No thats not the way to go...
Block the first hour, don't lose any wickets, then go for the slong until tea and bring it home after tea

Haradhon
January 17, 2005, 10:13 PM
Folks, it does not cost to dream: Century by either Javed or Nafis, and then one century by Ash or Saleh or Bashar. And BD wins with 5 overs remaining!

kalosada
January 17, 2005, 10:19 PM
if they play for a draw, they will win the match at the end, I beleive

Edited on, January 18, 2005, 3:21 AM GMT, by kalosada.

shujan
January 17, 2005, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by Haradhon
Folks, it does not cost to dream: Century by either Javed or Nafis, and then one century by Ash or Saleh or Bashar. And BD wins with 5 overs remaining!

How many wkt ?

Haradhon
January 17, 2005, 10:25 PM
Dav asked everyone to play for a draw; however, Rafiq, Masri and Tapash will eventually bring us the win.

shaheen
January 17, 2005, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by kalosada
if they play for a draw, they will win the match at the end, I beleive

Edited on, January 18, 2005, 3:21 AM GMT, by kalosada.

I totally agree with that. Playing for a draw means play defensively until lunch break today and keep the wickets in hand and then we will win surely unless a very very stupid works from the batsman come in

Haradhon
January 17, 2005, 10:26 PM
Shujan: With two wickets on hand (Enam and Tapash)

kalosada
January 17, 2005, 10:29 PM
I have the exactly the same feeling. They should try not to loose any wkt before lunch. Then Bashar can prompt Rafiq or Masrafee to play some strokes if the ball is not new to determine the correct approch for the game. Dunno what his feeling or stategy..

Originally posted by shaheen
Originally posted by kalosada
if they play for a draw, they will win the match at the end, I beleive

Edited on, January 18, 2005, 3:21 AM GMT, by kalosada.

I totally agree with that. Playing for a draw means play defensively until lunch break today and keep the wickets in hand and then we will win surely unless a very very stupid works from the batsman come in

fab
January 17, 2005, 10:32 PM
It seems that crackinfo is still having technical problems. .*sigh* Does anyone know exactly how they do their ball by ball commentary? Do they just watch ESPN Star on TV?

Anyhow, I just hope JO and NI can survive the first 10 - 15 overs of the day, otherwise I fear we may witness another horrible collapse.

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 10:32 PM
i dont think we should promote rafiq or masri to top order just to increase the run rate. rrr is around 3. we dont need to hit hard. we just need to play sensible cricket. besides, we have enough attacking batsmen in bashar, ash and aftab. rajin can play shots too. (its the new rajin).

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 10:35 PM
first over has passed. bangladesh 99/0

275 more runs from 89 overs.

kalosada
January 17, 2005, 10:37 PM
u r right, but I was thinking that way to lessen up the pressure to the genuine batsmen... still a long way to go...
We know our performance once we start messing up..

Originally posted by shovon13
i dont think we should promote rafiq or masri to top order just to increase the run rate. rrr is around 3. we dont need to hit hard. we just need to play sensible cricket. besides, we have enough attacking batsmen in bashar, ash and aftab. rajin can play shots too. (its the new rajin).

Frost
January 17, 2005, 10:42 PM
ki bhai - keu ki khela live dekhen?

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 10:42 PM
lol true. but i'm hoping this time bd has matured enough to not fall into a collapse all of a sudden, and has learned to deal with the pressure.

latest score: still 99/0

Edited on, January 18, 2005, 3:43 AM GMT, by shovon13.

fab
January 17, 2005, 10:46 PM
Looks like they're following the same strategy as yesterday.. that's good!

russel_fresno
January 17, 2005, 10:46 PM
bangladesh opening partnership has a consistent record of being the slowest

fab
January 17, 2005, 10:47 PM
Well, it's either they are slow, or they get out quickly.. I know which I'd prefer.

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Frost
ki bhai - keu ki khela live dekhen?
I'm watching live

Frost
January 17, 2005, 10:49 PM
Spitfire_x86 Bhai, taile majhe majhe ektu bistarito janaien

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by fab
Looks like they're following the same strategy as yesterday.. that's good!
We will see how good it is. If we score 40 runs in the first session, then we will have almost no chance of winning the match.

1 run in 20 minutes and 4.3 overs.

russel_fresno
January 17, 2005, 10:52 PM
i guess we just have to get used to with this slow run rate as long as these two batsmen are in creeze and we want this partnership to be in the creeze for at least 20 more overs

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by fab
Well, it's either they are slow, or they get out quickly.. I know which I'd prefer.
I'd prefer none of them. It's choosing between beef and chicken when you want fish.

Slow strategy was good for yesterday, and maybe for first 1 hour of today. We've got a good start, if we settle for a draw it will be the worst possible result. I'd rather take an innings defeat instead of a draw by reincarnating 50's India-Pakistan series style negetive batting.

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 10:58 PM
arun the great commentator is saying how if we play too slow we might put ourselves in too much pressure. i cant believe this guy doesn't know this is how u're supposed to play in hte first hour...and its just been 7 overs for gods sake.

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 10:59 PM
FOUR by Nafees!!!

:fire:

103/0 BD

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 10:59 PM
boundary!!! by nafis the man

103/0

mzia
January 17, 2005, 10:59 PM
100 by a sweet 4 by nafis...

Frost
January 17, 2005, 10:59 PM
does anyone know how is wicket today? and how are the zimbs bowling today?

sunniath
January 17, 2005, 10:59 PM
4:clap:

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by shovon13
arun the great commentator is saying how if we play too slow we might put ourselves in too much pressure. i cant believe this guy doesn't know this is how u're supposed to play in hte first hour...and its just been 7 overs for gods sake.
He only mentioned that we need to keep RR under control. If it goes 4+, then it wll be very hard for us to win, no matter how many wickets we have in the hand.

russel_fresno
January 17, 2005, 11:02 PM
5 runs came from first half an hour

fab
January 17, 2005, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
I'd prefer none of them. It's choosing between beef and chicken when you want fish. Well fish isn't an option is it? You'll have to stick with chicken or beef for the time being :rolleyes:

Anyhow this is good early on.. put away the bad balls and leave alone/defend the good ones.

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Frost
does anyone know how is wicket today? and how are the zimbs bowling today?
Zimbo bowling is quite similar to yesterday. I haven't seen the pitch report, but from the bowling of medium pacers, I don't think it has became much worse than 4th day pitch

Haradhon
January 17, 2005, 11:06 PM
When do the Zim get a new ball, anybody knows?

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by Haradhon
When do the Zim get a new ball, anybody knows?

after 15 more overs. they're on their 65th over.

russel_fresno
January 17, 2005, 11:08 PM
Enamul got the car because of his taking 8+ wickets in this test. He deserves the car only for himself and is not supposed to share; but Bangladesh Cricket Board says, anything bonus a player gets will be distributed equally among all the players. That means Enamul will get 1 Lakh taka from the 13-lakh taka SUV he deserved. Isn't that so unfair?

mzia
January 17, 2005, 11:10 PM
good shot 4,

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 11:10 PM
Enamul will get 40%, and others will split rest of the money between them

kalosada
January 17, 2005, 11:11 PM
Nafees is looking good...

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 11:11 PM
2nd boundary of the morning hit by Nafees. :joy:

BD 107/0

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 11:11 PM
4 by nafis. 107/0

russel bhai...enamul gets to keep 40% of the money. the rest of it is distributed among players. i guess they're doing it so the team feels like they're playing together. when we become really professional, we wont need this anymore.

PoorFan
January 17, 2005, 11:11 PM
64.4 Panyangara to Javed Omar, no run, good delivery, pitches just
outside off and swings away, plays and misses

65.3 Chigumbura to Nafis Iqbal, no run, lovely delivery, good length
ball, outside off and swings away, plays and misses

Both of them should not play these ball.

russel_fresno
January 17, 2005, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
Enamul will get 40%, and others will split rest of the money between them

Oh ok, I didn't know that, but that's still unfair, right?

capslock
January 17, 2005, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by russel_fresno
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
Enamul will get 40%, and others will split rest of the money between them

Oh ok, I didn't know that, but that's still unfair, right?



No, the whole team agreed to do this no matter who got the car.

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by russel_fresno
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
Enamul will get 40%, and others will split rest of the money between them
Oh ok, I didn't know that, but that's still unfair, right?
I don't think it's fair, but board's decision is final and players have to obey them.

mzia
January 17, 2005, 11:15 PM
Hondo is in. Wicket is good, nothing abnormal. Zim are maintaing the line, all the ball out side off stump, and Javed and Nafis are negotiating very colly.

Very tricky 2 run, throw was not good that so safe but if it would straight probelm was there! No need to take any extra risk now....

mzia
January 17, 2005, 11:16 PM
10 over gone, 11 run, 109/0

russel_fresno
January 17, 2005, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by shovon13
4 by nafis. 107/0

russel bhai...enamul gets to keep 40% of the money. the rest of it is distributed among players. i guess they're doing it so the team feels like they're playing together. when we become really professional, we wont need this anymore.

Oh ok, that makes sense. Heard Mashrafe is not fit. Hope he can play in the ODIs.

PoorFan
January 17, 2005, 11:17 PM
66.4 Hondo to Javed Omar, two runs, on leg stump, turns it to long leg
and run a 2nd risky run, if throw would be in target, Javed was in
trouble

This Javed is nothing but a foolish!!:mad:

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 11:18 PM
Now we need to accelerate a bit. At least 2 runs/over from now till lunch

nasim
January 17, 2005, 11:19 PM
what happened to cricinfo??

shaad
January 17, 2005, 11:21 PM
Cricinfo is just slow. Chigumbura bowled a maiden.

RazabQ
January 17, 2005, 11:23 PM
dude no risk until after lunch break...
a series win is a series win :)
chalarey qadira

mzia
January 17, 2005, 11:24 PM
111/0 end of 69. after 11 over new ball could be taken...

Edited on, January 18, 2005, 4:25 AM GMT, by mzia.
Reason: ball was missing

Haradhon
January 17, 2005, 11:25 PM
I am happy with what I'm seeing, except that BD should accelarate after 8 overs.

shaad
January 17, 2005, 11:25 PM
I'm prefectly fine with a match draw and series win. No need to rush a la Spitfire.

Haradhon
January 17, 2005, 11:28 PM
If Javed and Nafis last until lunch BD need to change the batting order, and bring in a hard-hitting batter with Bashar! We are looking for 5+ run rate

atheist
January 17, 2005, 11:30 PM
bhaijanera ekta information den...

paltalk e ki live commentry shunte paabo? aar group er naamta... kon group e jabo.. "cricket"?


cricinfo poshaitese na...

thnx a lot

reza_15
January 17, 2005, 11:30 PM
If javed and nafis keep going like this up to 180 or more , i think we'll definitely win

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 11:30 PM
group name: live cricket

yes live commentry shunte paben.

Haradhon
January 17, 2005, 11:30 PM
Javed and Nafis are playing like Modassar Nazar, the slowest opener

mzia
January 17, 2005, 11:31 PM
Hondo's ball is better, in line and swing is there...trying to reverse..

ZunaidH
January 17, 2005, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Haradhon
If Javed and Nafis last until lunch BD need to change the batting order, and bring in a hard-hitting batter with Bashar! We are looking for 5+ run rate


I think we should not worry about hitting right now. We should conserve everything till the last 40 overs or so. Nafis and Javed are both capable of hitting if required. In fact hitting is an easier task in comparison to patience.

mzia
January 17, 2005, 11:33 PM
Jon paner biroti.....

little_master
January 17, 2005, 11:33 PM
RRR=3.46 (76 overs to go for 263)
is it possibble to win?

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 11:33 PM
thats the end of first hour of play. things should go easier from now on for our batsmen.

the next thing we need to watch out for is the second new ball.

russel_fresno
January 17, 2005, 11:34 PM
drinks break
drinks hishebe alcohol serve kora uchit jate kore ektu rokto gorom hoi aar pitano shuru kore.

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by shaad
I'm prefectly fine with a match draw and series win. No need to rush a la Spitfire.
I'm pefectly fine with a 1-1 series draw, but a drawing match where we had very good chance of winning is totally unacceptable.

Drinks called. 14 runs came from first 14 overs of today. We've had enough of defensive playing. Now they should start playing natural game (I meant natural, not creating shots from senseless swinging of bat).

Edited on, January 18, 2005, 4:36 AM GMT, by Spitfire_x86.

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 11:35 PM
hahahahah...joss bolsen russel bhai.

Haradhon
January 17, 2005, 11:37 PM
JO and Nafis should be given some good tips during the Drinks break. I am praying that the new ball does not cause a collapse. Otherwise a draw is very much achievable, and a win ...

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 11:38 PM
FOUR byes!
:joy:

kalimdor
January 17, 2005, 11:41 PM
partnership mounting 115/0

russel_fresno
January 17, 2005, 11:43 PM
4 byes...............seems like zimbabwe ke alcohol serve korse aar bangalider daab er pani ;)

mzia
January 17, 2005, 11:43 PM
116/0, 73 over, Javed 41,

kalimdor
January 17, 2005, 11:44 PM
Javed was dropped once in 5 runs. Now he is using that life 1000% successfully and making the zim players pay for it . Keep it up Javed.

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 11:46 PM
daab'r pani khaya bathroom dour na dilei hoilo. i think runs will be coming a little bit faster now.

mzia
January 17, 2005, 11:46 PM
Chiqumbura is on and exchanging some view with Javed...

kalimdor
January 17, 2005, 11:47 PM
Zim players are hopeless now. They trying to distract Javed. Stay calm Javed. 117/0 so far.

mzia
January 17, 2005, 11:47 PM
117/0 74 over

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 11:48 PM
Cremer is on attack now

reza_15
January 17, 2005, 11:48 PM
Looking great 117 /0

kalimdor
January 17, 2005, 11:49 PM
They should fine Chigumbura for sleazing

reza_15
January 17, 2005, 11:49 PM
shovon ,call koro nai keno ?

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 11:50 PM
oh crap...bhule gesi :\

hehehe...achcha lunch time'e

mzia
January 17, 2005, 11:52 PM
quick single, 119/0 75 over

russel_fresno
January 17, 2005, 11:52 PM
well done javed omar...43 runs from 240 balls that means 40 overe pura khele 43 runs nise:D

shaad
January 17, 2005, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
I'm pefectly fine with a 1-1 series draw, but a drawing match where we had very good chance of winning is totally unacceptable.


We disagree on whether there is a "very good chance of winning," Spitfire. You seem to forget that very few teams have successfully chased down a 300-run target of the 5th day, and that we are not exactly a top tier team, having only just won our first test match. Pressuring the batsmen to increase their run rate at this juncture is likely to lead to the usual batting collapse.

And I'll take the 1-0 series win, thank you. It helps our ICC Test ranking more than a 1-1 series tie.

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 11:53 PM
FOUR byes!
:joy:

kalimdor
January 17, 2005, 11:53 PM
124/0 so far byes 4

reza_15
January 17, 2005, 11:53 PM
dhatt , moja koira khela o dekha jabe na kalker school 'er jonno

kalimdor
January 17, 2005, 11:54 PM
Chigumbura should concentrate on him awful bowling rather than trying to distract Javed

mzia
January 17, 2005, 11:54 PM
now chiqumbura is fishing out side the leg stump and 4

shaheen
January 17, 2005, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by mzia
Chiqumbura is on and exchanging some view with Javed...

That's a good technique indeed. By the way was it a hot exchange??

Haradhon
January 17, 2005, 11:55 PM
250 is doable in 70 overs

mzia
January 17, 2005, 11:58 PM
Ball was pitching out side the leg stump, safe. 125 run

shovon13
January 17, 2005, 11:59 PM
we should play like this for the next 10/15 overs. then we can afford to play odi style in the last 55/60 overs.

shaheen
January 17, 2005, 11:59 PM
125*1st wkt partnership, well done, continue till lunch and then we may speed up at post lunch session

Spitfire_x86
January 17, 2005, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by shaad
We disagree on whether there is a "very good chance of winning," Spitfire. You seem to forget that very few teams have successfully chased down a 300-run target of the 5th day, and that we are not exactly a top tier team, having only just won our first test match. Pressuring the batsmen to increase their run rate at this juncture is likely to lead to the usual batting collapse.

And I'll take the 1-0 series win, thank you. It helps our ICC Test ranking more than a 1-1 series tie.
None of them won without beleiving that they can win, and why can't this be another occcasion of chasing 300+ target in the 5th day? We've never done this before doesn't mean that we can never do this. We're not a top-tier team, but the opposition is top tier team either.

Oh, I didn't know that BD is going to replace Australia from the first place in the ranking with 1-0 series victory! sigh, rankings!!!!

Edited on, January 18, 2005, 5:00 AM GMT, by Spitfire_x86.

shaheen
January 18, 2005, 12:00 AM
Cremer to Javed Omar, no run, sweeps and misses, hits on the pad,
shout for lbw, ball pitches outside leg and missing off


seems a very big turn for cremer???

reza_15
January 18, 2005, 12:01 AM
bangladesh should try to keep this partnership until lunch and after lunch they should go for winning batting like ODI

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:01 AM
126/0 from 78 overs Bangladesh RR: 1.61

mzia
January 18, 2005, 12:02 AM
126/0 after 78

shovon13
January 18, 2005, 12:02 AM
bashar already said he was going for the win. i think the batsmen are just employing the team strategy, which is to play the first session a bit carefully..then go for the win in the last two.

nafis was just dropped!!

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 12:03 AM
Dropeed!

Nafees got a life

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:03 AM
out, Nafis out 68

mzia
January 18, 2005, 12:03 AM
Nafis droped by Taibu...poor shot

rassel
January 18, 2005, 12:03 AM
This is simply awesome our opening pair surviving for 78 over. :bravo:

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:03 AM
ops his is not. Hurry:fanflag:

shaheen
January 18, 2005, 12:03 AM
Go on Go On like this only 5 overs left b4 lunch. If we keep all 10 wkts till lunch then we will be able to win the series at least.

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:04 AM
third umpire is called

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 12:04 AM
3rd umpire called for run out appeal

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 12:04 AM
Not out

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:04 AM
Nafis is home, safe

shovon13
January 18, 2005, 12:05 AM
nafis is trying to be more aggressive right now as it seems. hmm..

mzia
January 18, 2005, 12:05 AM
well reached and safe Nafis against a direct throw...

mzia
January 18, 2005, 12:06 AM
127/0 79 over

rassel
January 18, 2005, 12:07 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
3rd umpire called for run out appeal [/quo

nafis need to take it easy. this is second close call.

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 12:07 AM
Fulltoss, put away for FOUR by Nafees :fanflag:

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:08 AM
44444444444444444444:bravo:

mzia
January 18, 2005, 12:08 AM
Masakadza flown by Nafis 4

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:08 AM
Ok batsman is going for hit now. GOOOOOOOD :)

shaad
January 18, 2005, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
None of them won without beleiving that they can win, and why can't this be another occcasion of chasing 300+ target in the 5th day? We've never done this before doesn't mean that we can never do this. We're not a top-tier team, but the opposition is top tier team either.

Oh, I didn't know that BD is going to replace Australia from the first place in the ranking with 1-0 series victory! sigh, rankings!!!!

Edited on, January 18, 2005, 5:00 AM GMT, by Spitfire_x86.

Of course, history is replete with many more accounts of teams losing when attempting such a chase (take the recent SA vs. England match). And while your ironic little witticism about rankings is terribly charming, you seem to have conveniently forgotten that our low rankings (worst of the Test nations, lower than both Kenya and Zimbabwe in ODIs) is often used as "evidence" to suggest that our Test status should be taken away, or that we should only play with the worst teams.

mzia
January 18, 2005, 12:10 AM
132 after 80, new ball is available but not taken yet..

betaar
January 18, 2005, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by shovon13
bashar already said he was going for the win. i think the batsmen are just employing the team strategy, which is to play the first session a bit carefully..then go for the win in the last two.

nafis was just dropped!!

Bashar said they wanna go for the win is just to show that they are positive. The actual intension is to draw the match at any cost. BD hasn't developed the guts to go for the kill yet, given the situation I don't think that we have the stomach for it anyway, so saving the game is the right thing do.

GOOOOOo Bangladesh!!!!!:fanflag:

little_master
January 18, 2005, 12:10 AM
132/o in 80 overs! awsome Nafis and Javed!:fire::bravo::bravo:

mzia
January 18, 2005, 12:11 AM
133 after 81

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:12 AM
Taibu used 8 bowlers so far.....

Panyangara 10 4 15 0 (6nb)
Mpofu 17 7 23 0
Hondo 15 5 21 0
Chigumbura 15 6 22 0 (1nb)
Cremer 14.1 2 24 0
Matsikenyeri 3 0 9 0
Masakadza 5 0 9 0
Taylor 1 0 1 0

little_master
January 18, 2005, 12:13 AM
25 runs to go for Nafis's Maiden century

mzia
January 18, 2005, 12:14 AM
Maiden over by masakadza...

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 12:14 AM
And while your ironic little witticism about rankings is terribly charming, you seem to have conveniently forgotten that our low rankings (worst of the Test nations, lower than both Kenya and Zimbabwe in ODIs) is often used as "evidence" to suggest that our Test status should be taken away, or that we should only play with the worst teams.
2-0 will help more than 1-0 in the rankings. Do you have any doubts about that?

And what if we win the series by 1-0 agaist Zimbabwe? People who think that our test status should be taken away, or that we should only play with the worst teams, can still say that.

fab
January 18, 2005, 12:15 AM
Do you think they're gonna up the pace after lunch? I think they should go for a win now. Only 241 runs off 65 overs. This is SOOO doable!

betaar
January 18, 2005, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by shaad
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
None of them won without beleiving that they can win, and why can't this be another occcasion of chasing 300+ target in the 5th day? We've never done this before doesn't mean that we can never do this. We're not a top-tier team, but the opposition is top tier team either.

Oh, I didn't know that BD is going to replace Australia from the first place in the ranking with 1-0 series victory! sigh, rankings!!!!

Edited on, January 18, 2005, 5:00 AM GMT, by Spitfire_x86.

Of course, history is replete with many more accounts of teams losing when attempting such a chase (take the recent SA vs. England match). And while your ironic little witticism about rankings is terribly charming, you seem to have conveniently forgotten that our low rankings (worst of the Test nations, lower than both Kenya and Zimbabwe in ODIs) is often used as "evidence" to suggest that our Test status should be taken away, or that we should only play with the worst teams.

Bros, it too late for that argument anyway. If we really wanted to win this then we should've started playing like that from the very begining. What you guys are saying are both logical because both of you are talking about the possible outsomes of the game that BD teams are faced with.

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:17 AM
out Javed out, Ravi is so happy to see Javed gettign out

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 12:17 AM
Gone! Javed Gone!!! :fanflag:

Here comes Bashar!!!!

mzia
January 18, 2005, 12:17 AM
Cremer got Javed, he failed to make 50

betaar
January 18, 2005, 12:17 AM
I was scared that BD would loose a wicket and then BD will loose couple more. DarNNNNNNNNNN

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 12:18 AM
Zimbo may take new ball now. Fielding should be aggressive and Bashar should be able to score some quick runs

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:18 AM
excellent job done by Javed.... 133/1

betaar
January 18, 2005, 12:19 AM
BD commentators are happy with the oppening stand, pls give me break.
This record woud count for s**t if we fail to draw this match.

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:21 AM
Too many Bengali commentrators. They all speak at the same time

shaheen
January 18, 2005, 12:21 AM
a good try from 1st wkt now the others should show something like this

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by kalimdor
Too many Bengali commentrators. They all speak at the same time
BTV commentators make me :E:E:E:E

betaar
January 18, 2005, 12:23 AM
In a situation like this we needed Rajin more then Bashar, becasue his natural way of playing isn't called for. We solidity, we don'y need some one to come in and play a little cameo innings and then influence others to play reckless shots like him and then get out in the process.

cluster11
January 18, 2005, 12:23 AM
I don't get it why we are debating about win. There is no reason to risk such a scenario until after lunch. As it was pointed out ONLY 3 matches in the history of test cricket was won chasing such a big total and I am pretty positive more than 100 has been lost! BD is in no way out of the woods, there are still more than 60 overs remaining and a team can get bowled out within this timeframe. What they have done so far is splendid and they should be cautious for at least another 30 overs (especially if we lost couple of wicket in the next 10-15 overs). In the final session if there are 6-7 wickets in hand it doesnt matter if the target runrate is 5 or 6, it can be an entertaining attempt. But the smart thing to do first is to secure a draw which is that they are doing now. When facing a ratio of at least 1:33 (win/loss) in such scenario I cant imagine them trying anything else!

As I am writing this we just lost Javed. I can only hope the BD batsman are not plannig a win-or-lose attempt like some board members here are wishing for in this situation.

fab
January 18, 2005, 12:23 AM
How many more overs till lunch? Lets hope Bashar and Nafis can stay on till then.

betaar
January 18, 2005, 12:25 AM
ok now are making risky shots just to check the blood pressure of the fans watching cricket. what the hell guys, be patient.

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:25 AM
Nafis will get the car, Insallah. He is going for it. he is only one who has true chance of getting 100. Rest of BD's player will have to concentrate on getting run fast.

cluster11
January 18, 2005, 12:26 AM
(duplicate post) - deleted

Edited on, January 18, 2005, 5:27 AM GMT, by cluster11.

betaar
January 18, 2005, 12:27 AM
Shastri is calling it a negative mindset of BD batsmen cause we are blosking balls before the lunch. Moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shaheen
January 18, 2005, 12:27 AM
last over b4 lunch

mzia
January 18, 2005, 12:27 AM
Last over before lunch....87th over

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:28 AM
last over before lunch 135/1 from 86 overs. attacking fielding

cluster11
January 18, 2005, 12:28 AM
Shastri is an idiot. I remember him wasting time and scratching grass of his freakin shoe back in the '87 world cup. That dumbass spent more time chasing actresses at stands than playing cricket. We dont need no lesson from him :mad:

cluster11
January 18, 2005, 12:29 AM
hey this BB bot is so nice, he made my comments nicer than I intended to. I like this :lol:

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:30 AM
Man Pakistani commetrators are much better than these Ravi, Arul lal ......

rassel
January 18, 2005, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by BETAAR
Shastri is calling it a negative mindset of BD batsmen cause we are blosking balls before the lunch. Moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cuz this dummy wants us to lose this match.

shaheen
January 18, 2005, 12:30 AM
135/1 lunch on

Frost
January 18, 2005, 12:30 AM
during shastri's time india was one of the most negative team ever

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by BETAAR
Shastri is calling it a negative mindset of BD batsmen cause we are blosking balls before the lunch. Moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's not moron, if we played our normal game throughout the session (barring the early part of the day and few overs before lunch), he would definately not say that.

shaad
January 18, 2005, 12:31 AM
Okay, made it to lunch without losing another wicket

cluster11
January 18, 2005, 12:31 AM
well said Frost. And it was mostly because Shastri used to open. He is one of the slowest opening batsman I ever saw.

cluster11
January 18, 2005, 12:31 AM
Good job BD .. wonderful morning session ... :clap:

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:32 AM
lunch time.....:joy::joy::joy: (let me make myself a sandwich)

betaar
January 18, 2005, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
Originally posted by BETAAR
Shastri is calling it a negative mindset of BD batsmen cause we are blosking balls before the lunch. Moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's not moron, if we played our normal game throughout the session (barring the early part of the day and few overs before lunch), he would definately not say that.

Dude, I already said that's it woul've been a possibility. But it's too late now, I don't think we are in a winning position now since the RR is up. Shastri should know tha, so should you. The best thing we can do now is to go for a tame draw.

fab
January 18, 2005, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by cluster11
Shastri is an idiot. I remember him wasting time and scratching grass of his freakin shoe back in the '87 world cup.
I remember when he scored his 200+ in a Test against Australia. Was darned slow himself!

fab
January 18, 2005, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by BETAAR
Dude, I already said that's it woul've been a possibility. But it's too late now, I don't think we are in a winning position now since the RR is up.
No offence dude, but I don't think you know what you are talking about :umm:

shaheen
January 18, 2005, 12:38 AM
A good performance so far from BD and hope Bashar will not throw his wicket soon after lunch

cluster11
January 18, 2005, 12:41 AM
The asking runrate is not even 4! The match is nowhere near a position where its unwinnable by either side. Granted BD is in a much stronger position now than in the morning, but ZIM still has 60 overs to bowl us out. Similiarly we can move slow another 30 overs and open up in the final 30 even if the RR is 6/over then - given that we have enuff wickets in hand. Lets hope we don't lose more than a couple of wickets in the next session. That shud set up an exciting final session.

reverse_swing
January 18, 2005, 12:41 AM
I'm happy that only 1 wk gone but on the other hand little bit disappointed for our too negative batting.

kalimdor
January 18, 2005, 12:41 AM
BD is going for win. But wouldn't be wise to save the draw first. Then in the last session, they will go for big hits and try to make the draw a win. At least this way they will have no chance of losing this test, instead will have a great chace to draw or snach a win

betaar
January 18, 2005, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by fab
Originally posted by BETAAR
Dude, I already said that's it woul've been a possibility. But it's too late now, I don't think we are in a winning position now since the RR is up.
No offence dude, but I don't think you know what you are talking about :umm:

any logic behind your comment, or that's just your opinion?

shaheen
January 18, 2005, 12:42 AM
who the hell shastri is that we have to care what is he talking? We should play according to our plan no need to hurry for a win and at the end we loose. If we loose the match then this Shastri will blame our attitude again and question will rise why we had to chase such a big score rather then trying to make a draw??

betaar
January 18, 2005, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by cluster11
The asking runrate is not even 4! The match is nowhere near a position where its unwinnable by either side. Granted BD is in a much stronger position now than in the morning, but ZIM still has 60 overs to bowl us out. Similiarly we can move slow another 30 overs and open up in the final 30 even if the RR is 6/over then - given that we have enuff wickets in hand. Lets hope we don't lose more than a couple of wickets in the next session. That shud set up an exciting final session.

Ok, either you guys are really optimistic or living in a la la land. As mentioned few times there were only 3 instances where a team won chasing such a big target, on top of that for god sake it's BD batting line up we are talking about on the brink of a deterirating pitch conditions. When was the last time BD scored more then 250 in the second innings. Zim or not, the runs have to be scored.

Warlock
January 18, 2005, 12:48 AM
Shastri is always unhappy about Bangladesh. We are playing sensibly and keeping our wickets intact- he says we are being negative. If we had played it like a ODI and lost 8 wickets by now- he would have said, we are playing irresponsible. If India were in the same position against Australia- Ravi would have been filled with praise.

Mohammad
January 18, 2005, 12:51 AM
i think we are playing bravely and should be proud of our men. They are playing with a lot of responsibility!!! Screw Ravi Shastri.

mafizraju
January 18, 2005, 12:51 AM
mannnnnn.....the pitch doesnot look detoriating at all................ the match is far from over and still nobody has clean control over the game. but still records are in favour of zimbos. i reckon that the second session will the decidig session. if bangladesh can hold up and score a rate of 3.0 by the end of session BD will make 90 odd runs, give or take 10/15 runs. and if thats plausible then then in the last session of 30 overs BD has to make another 140 odd runs.......... if we have wickets we can go for it. and then doing so if we loose too many wickets we can come back to shell to ensure a draw............... so it all will depend on how we approach the second session.

rafiq
January 18, 2005, 12:54 AM
The game is winnable, despite the oddsagainst chasing that huge target successfully. But BD has said to themselves, "whatever happens, we must not lose this match".

I'd still like them to see if they can up the run rate a bit without losing wickets. Taking singles more often would do that. Then they can reassess if the target is doable. If wickets fall, they can go back to the shell.

Anyway, they will play the way they have decided and us wanting them to press on for a win won't change that strategy. The post lunch session with the new ball will answer all the questions of whether we need to stay up for an exciting finish or go to bed content with a draw.

betaar
January 18, 2005, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by mafizraju
mannnnnn.....the pitch doesnot look detoriating at all................ the match is far from over and still nobody has clean control over the game. but still records are in favour of zimbos. i reckon that the second session will the decidig session. if bangladesh can hold up and score a rate of 3.0 by the end of session BD will make 90 odd runs, give or take 10/15 runs. and if thats plausible then then in the last session of 30 overs BD has to make another 140 odd runs.......... if we have wickets we can go for it. and then doing so if we loose too many wickets we can come back to shell to ensure a draw............... so it all will depend on how we approach the second session.

What you are saying is true for teams other then BD, it would be near impossible for BD to come back to shell once the slide starts, so I don't know how feasible it is to go for the win now.

capslock
January 18, 2005, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by BETAAR
Originally posted by mafizraju
mannnnnn.....the pitch doesnot look detoriating at all................ the match is far from over and still nobody has clean control over the game. but still records are in favour of zimbos. i reckon that the second session will the decidig session. if bangladesh can hold up and score a rate of 3.0 by the end of session BD will make 90 odd runs, give or take 10/15 runs. and if thats plausible then then in the last session of 30 overs BD has to make another 140 odd runs.......... if we have wickets we can go for it. and then doing so if we loose too many wickets we can come back to shell to ensure a draw............... so it all will depend on how we approach the second session.

What you are saying is true for teams other then BD, it would be near impossible for BD to come back to shell once the slide starts, so I don't know how feasible it is to go for the win now.


Man, you are one negative nancy aren't you?

mafizraju
January 18, 2005, 01:03 AM
betaar .............. lets put a target on.... if we see khaled masud with rafique in the crease with required run rate at 6.00 per over and still have to score another 100 runs I would say lets come back to the shell............... by the way what happened to the betaar station..........couldnot find it in live365.com any more

betaar
January 18, 2005, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by capslock
Originally posted by BETAAR
Originally posted by mafizraju
mannnnnn.....the pitch doesnot look detoriating at all................ the match is far from over and still nobody has clean control over the game. but still records are in favour of zimbos. i reckon that the second session will the decidig session. if bangladesh can hold up and score a rate of 3.0 by the end of session BD will make 90 odd runs, give or take 10/15 runs. and if thats plausible then then in the last session of 30 overs BD has to make another 140 odd runs.......... if we have wickets we can go for it. and then doing so if we loose too many wickets we can come back to shell to ensure a draw............... so it all will depend on how we approach the second session.

What you are saying is true for teams other then BD, it would be near impossible for BD to come back to shell once the slide starts, so I don't know how feasible it is to go for the win now.


Man, you are one negative nancy aren't you?

I'd like to call myself a calculated risk taker.:D

mafizraju
January 18, 2005, 01:04 AM
betaar ......... man ............you are no risk taker

betaar
January 18, 2005, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by mafizraju
betaar .............. lets put a target on.... if we see khaled masud with rafique in the crease with required run rate at 6.00 per over and still have to score another 100 runs I would say lets come back to the shell............... by the way what happened to the betaar station..........couldnot find it in live365.com any more

I got busy with MBA so had to shut that down, thinking of starting it again in summer.

I know what u r saying, but WHAT IF?

betaar
January 18, 2005, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by mafizraju
betaar ......... man ............you are no risk taker

you'd have to know me personally to find out how wrong you are.

Warlock
January 18, 2005, 01:07 AM
Okay. Let's see- if we are 150 runs short, having 6/7 wickets in hand and 30 overs left. We should really have a go at it. Unless, play with sense and settle for a draw and a well-deserved series win.
P.S. Betaar- I support your opinion.

bourny3
January 18, 2005, 01:13 AM
is 37 runs in a session some kind of slow scoring record.

shaheen
January 18, 2005, 01:14 AM
I think new balls has been taken after lunch?

fab
January 18, 2005, 01:14 AM
Is 239 runs off 60 overs with 9 wickets in hand against a Zimb bowling really that difficult to achieve?

shaheen
January 18, 2005, 01:15 AM
no sorry still playing with old ball

moinkhan
January 18, 2005, 01:16 AM
2nd session will decide the fate of this match. If Bashar stays on, he will play shots, scorecard will be ticking pretty fast, and we might win easily after tea. However, if he falls, and a couple of more wickets will put us on the back feet, and our middle-tail order will need to save the game.

Thanks to our openers to bring us this far. With a 374 target, I don't think there were many who realisticly believed we could even manage a draw.

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 01:16 AM
FOUR by Nafees!!!

:fire:

shaheen
January 18, 2005, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by fab
Is 239 runs off 60 overs with 9 wickets in hand against a Zimb bowling really that difficult to achieve?

Also not that easy too on the 5th day afternoon session

mzia
January 18, 2005, 01:17 AM
Nafis 4 but it was not clean hit...he is on 81

bourny3
January 18, 2005, 01:21 AM
it one bounced over the fence that is pretty clean hit.

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 01:23 AM
FOUR!!! :bravo:

mzia
January 18, 2005, 01:24 AM
Nice shot by nafis 4 and he is 85

bourny3
January 18, 2005, 01:24 AM
who hit it.

bourny3
January 18, 2005, 01:26 AM
I hope Nafis makes his 100 he deserves it.

bourny3
January 18, 2005, 01:28 AM
If BD have 20 overs left with 150 to get. With 9 wickets in hand do you think they will go for it.

bourny3
January 18, 2005, 01:35 AM
Big appeal for catch but the bat hit the ground.

PoorFan
January 18, 2005, 01:36 AM
92.4 Cremer to Nafis Iqbal, no run, tosses up, outside off, spins away,
tries to play at it, misses it through to keeper, shout for catch
behind, declines as bat hits the ground
92.2 Cremer to Nafis Iqbal, no run, good delivery, flight bounce and
turn in it, plays and misses outside off

Nafis is hungry for runs? He should stay there, his 100 will come easy.

abu_akif
January 18, 2005, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by bourny3
If BD have 20 overs left with 150 to get. With 9 wickets in hand do you think they will go for it.

It seems BD will not go for it... They are playing for a draw...

PoorFan
January 18, 2005, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by abu_akif
Originally posted by bourny3
If BD have 20 overs left with 150 to get. With 9 wickets in hand do you think they will go for it.

It seems BD will not go for it... They are playing for a draw...
They will go for it around 30 overs to play I guess.

tiger_man
January 18, 2005, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by abu_akif
Originally posted by bourny3
If BD have 20 overs left with 150 to get. With 9 wickets in hand do you think they will go for it.

It seems BD will not go for it... They are playing for a draw...

man they go plenty of overs left....if they should continue to play sensible shots now and reduce the required run....

later the bowlers will get tired and their bowling quality will drop and then with plenty of wickets in hand...we can hammer them back to mugabe's house......:fanflag:

tiger_man
January 18, 2005, 01:45 AM
azan dise...

tiger_man
January 18, 2005, 01:46 AM
out

bourny3
January 18, 2005, 01:46 AM
I like your thinking tiger man

mzia
January 18, 2005, 01:46 AM
Basher gone with alose shot...

fab
January 18, 2005, 01:46 AM
I wish they would have at least TRIED for a win in these few overs after lunch..

bourny3
January 18, 2005, 01:47 AM
Bashar that is stupid you are captain.

tiger_man
January 18, 2005, 01:47 AM
habibul is gone...

fab
January 18, 2005, 01:47 AM
Yeah Bashar cannot play without making shots...

shovon13
January 18, 2005, 01:48 AM
ash is coming up.

this is will determine whether we will win or not. if ash plays his game, we will win. if he doesn't...i dont know.

mzia
January 18, 2005, 01:49 AM
150/2. Ash should do some thing extra...

tiger_man
January 18, 2005, 01:49 AM
damn....i dont trust ashraful to do any better than bashar...

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 01:50 AM
See what over defence does. Wickets will fall, no matter how cautious you are. If we scored 100 runs more then 2 wickets wouldn't matter much to us.

Team management killed Bashar. He never plays well when he's not playing his natural game.

bourny3
January 18, 2005, 01:51 AM
Ash might be the man to bring the victory.

mzia
January 18, 2005, 01:51 AM
Good thing, Ash is playing on 1 and 2, less risk basically no risk...

tiger_man
January 18, 2005, 01:51 AM
Fu**** kuttar bacha is gone

fab
January 18, 2005, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
Team management killed Bashar. He never plays well when he's not playing his natural game.
Agree. He should have been sent in after Rajin/Ash.

mzia
January 18, 2005, 01:52 AM
...and Ash gone, ball was very good and catch was taken smartly...

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 01:52 AM
Another gone.

Ashraful gone. Beaten by spin and bounce. ball took outside edge and went to slip.

and reminding you, IT WAS NO AGRESSIVE SHOT.

fab
January 18, 2005, 01:52 AM
OMG ASH IS GONE?!??!?! :mad:

mafizraju
January 18, 2005, 01:52 AM
Bashar should never try to play otherwise.....when ever he tried to change his style he failed..........negative or slow batting was never his way

green_cat
January 18, 2005, 01:52 AM
who gone again

fab
January 18, 2005, 01:53 AM
now we have NO OPTION but to go for a draw. This scenario is all too familiar. Nafis will go next, and Rajin shortly after. bloody hell!

Fazal
January 18, 2005, 01:53 AM
Still want a WIN anyone?

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 01:53 AM
Where are the defeatists? See what your over defence does?

bourny3
January 18, 2005, 01:53 AM
Good one Ash. You are useless after one good innings.

tiger_man
January 18, 2005, 01:54 AM
i hate ashraful...i dont care about his stupid youngest record crap....he always lets the team down in these critical moments

shovon13
January 18, 2005, 01:54 AM
it was a very good delivery by cremer. not much ash could've done.

Fazal
January 18, 2005, 01:55 AM
A SR of 100 for ash is hardly defensive play

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 01:55 AM
Defeatists wanted it. Now victory is 100% impossible, draw is threatened.

If we played positively, then we would have good chance of winning and not more chance of losing the match.

fwullah
January 18, 2005, 01:55 AM
Collapse shuru hoy kon alphabet die?

In other words, collapse koto prokar o ki ki?

tiger_man
January 18, 2005, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by shovon13
it was a very good delivery by cremer. not much ash could've done.


he cud have blocked the friggin bowl.....like nafis has been doing since yesterday

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
A SR of 100 for ash is hardly defensive play
He survived very few balls, it wasn't hard to get SR 100. When he got out he tried nothing to do except defending the ball

fwullah
January 18, 2005, 01:56 AM
If we played positively, then we would have good chance of winning and not more chance of losing the match.


If we had played positively, the game would have been over within 4 days - yesterday evening, or at best, today morning.

Fazal
January 18, 2005, 01:57 AM
"We should play for win"..... HaHaHa

We should be lucky if we can snatch a draw here !

PoorFan
January 18, 2005, 01:57 AM
Now it depends to Ash whether we are going to lose this match or survive rest 50 overs for a draw.
I think Ash can put us in either situation. It will be suicide if he goes for hit and win at this moment.
Better stick to the plan for a draw now and think about win after 20 to 25 overs later.
I am more than happy with a draw and a series win.

OMG he is gone already!!!!!!!!!!!

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by tiger_man
he cud have blocked the friggin bowl.....like nafis has been doing since yesterday
That's exactly what he tried to do, but failed

shovon13
January 18, 2005, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by tiger_man
Originally posted by shovon13
it was a very good delivery by cremer. not much ash could've done.


he cud have blocked the friggin bowl.....like nafis has been doing since yesterday

thats what he tried to do. he tried to block it. the ball just spun more and faster and bounced up....it was a classic leg spinner's wicket taking delivery.

fwullah
January 18, 2005, 01:58 AM
He survived very few balls, it wasn't hard to get SR 100. When he got out he tried nothing to do except defending the ball


But Ashraful was the only player so far today who was 'trying to play positively and look what happened - he didn't even survive 20 balls!

tiger_man
January 18, 2005, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
Originally posted by tiger_man
he cud have blocked the friggin bowl.....like nafis has been doing since yesterday
That's exactly what he tried to do, but failed

that underage idiot fails too many times

green_cat
January 18, 2005, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
A SR of 100 for ash is hardly defensive play

so a defeat is coming now...play offensive...hit once 4 and in the next delivey out...this way they could score 40 runs with ten wkt's

Fazal
January 18, 2005, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
Originally posted by Fazal
A SR of 100 for ash is hardly defensive play
He survived very few balls, it wasn't hard to get SR 100. When he got out he tried nothing to do except defending the ball

The wicket start falling when Basher became impatient and Ash start attacking from the begining. No wicket fell whrn Gullu and Nafis played defensively,.

And that is the fact.

Spitfire_x86
January 18, 2005, 01:59 AM
I would be glad if we lose this match.

The team will learn a lesson that negetive attitude ultimately gives nothing in the end.