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pagol-chagol
January 18, 2005, 04:52 PM
*Enamul is captain instead of Rokon.
*Rokon not even in the team.
*Tushar Imran is in the A team too.

Conclusion: Rokon will play in the ODI series.

AsifTheManRahman
January 18, 2005, 04:53 PM
no

conclusion - rokon has no hope of coming back to the national team.

pagol-chagol
January 18, 2005, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
no

conclusion - rokon has no hope of coming back to the national team.

Are you basing your conclusion on the hypothesis that Rokon not going with the A team means he is even below that group? What was he doing in the BCCB XI then?

Fazal
January 18, 2005, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
What was he doing in the BCCB XI then?

Saving BCCB XI's a[][]! Now as he have done his job, just thow him in the trash.

pagol-chagol
January 18, 2005, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Fazal
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
What was he doing in the BCCB XI then?

Saving BCCB XI's a[][]! Now as he have done his job, just thow him in the trash.

Exactly. Since he saved their s he deserves to be thrown out of the team.

Edited on, January 18, 2005, 10:13 PM GMT, by pagol-chagol.

pagol-chagol
January 18, 2005, 05:59 PM
Faruq said - Rokon is going to Dilip Trophty team which will have a lot of players from the national team.

sham1980
January 18, 2005, 06:05 PM
Even I am surprised that Al shahriar is not in the A squad, I don't believe any one should come in to the national squad with out playing well in the A squad but we need to give him a chnace.

But I am looking forward to seeing Shamsur Rahman, Nafees Ahmed, I here Rahim is the next keeper, I wanna also see Shahadat and Shafaq al Jaber excel too. Things are looking good its just time before we dominate. Step by step we will get there.

shovon13
January 18, 2005, 09:11 PM
yeah...rokon will be playing in the duleep trophy team. both tours will be going on at about the same time.

akabir77
January 18, 2005, 09:59 PM
people dont jump to conclusions......

aosaif
January 18, 2005, 10:29 PM
will our full-strength team or our A team play in duleep trophy?

when will duleep trophy take place?

fwullah
January 18, 2005, 11:32 PM
I think a BCB XI team will go to Duleep trophy (P.S., why is it spelled Duleep, and why not Deeleep - I think the pronounciation is Deeleep trophy)

amin
January 19, 2005, 12:18 AM
Yah rokon has no chance, because-
1. we dont like him
2. main selector does not like him, because he was out of the national team due to young rokon good performance on that time.
3. whenever he does something even save a game we value that match classless,
4. rokon has no high class relative,
5. Rokon always got chance by his performance play always with pressure in case bad score out of the team because he is not ragin, aftab or etc.
6. no one can say anything to selector at the momment because we just win the test with most strong team in the world.
7. we can not appreciate a player good performance.
thank u bangladesh.

wasif
January 19, 2005, 12:29 AM
i agree with brother Amin

Rokon is not Rajin/Aftab/Aloke who is backed by Faruqe
and he has no back in BCCB
sorry to write this...................Rokon deserves comeback opportunity
:(

Hasib
January 19, 2005, 12:56 AM
yeah i reckon he deserves to play as well

mahbubH
January 19, 2005, 03:25 AM
2. main selector does not like him, because he was out of the national team due to young rokon good performance on that time.

This is new to me ... anyway thanks for info!!!

akabir77
January 19, 2005, 08:36 AM
I think touring india is much better than zim A and Qatar so i don't why you people want him in the A team.. Just to clear things up he is chosen for the deleep cup india according to Faruk (prothom-alo)

AsifTheManRahman
January 19, 2005, 09:43 AM
i don't buy this crap about the selectors being biased

rafiq
January 19, 2005, 10:20 AM
it doesn't matter what "we people" want. "we people" aren't the selectors.

who would rokon replace? if he came in at 6, should he replace aftab or alok kapali who is currently behind aftab? does rokon want to open the ODI team again - we may have an opening there. He probably does not want to open test side, we already have nafis entrenched in the stroke-playing opener role.

So before saying he should be recalled to the national squad (13-14 player rotation), you also have to justify why someone ahead of him should be kicked out just because they had a couple of low scores.

thanks

AsifTheManRahman
January 19, 2005, 10:23 AM
exactly. currently, i don't see a place for rokon in the national team. he may be good enough for the A team or the BCB XI team though

Fazal
January 19, 2005, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by rafiq
So before saying he should be recalled to the national squad (13-14 player rotation), you also have to justify why someone ahead of him should be kicked out just because they had a couple of low scores.

thanks

I have just to say one word, <b>"Alok"</b>.

What he has done recently (domestic or warm-up games) to justify his inclusion back in the team that Rokon haven't done?

AsifTheManRahman
January 19, 2005, 10:44 AM
alok hasn't done much either. imo, none of these two have any chance unless someone from the national team "highly underperforms";).

bdboy
January 19, 2005, 10:52 AM
Good selection so far.
Rokon isnot in full form yet. To run in one match is not enough.

AsifTheManRahman
January 19, 2005, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by bdboy
Good selection so far.
Rokon isnot in full form yet. To run in one match is not enough.

yes, exactly. a 150 odd inning against a weak league team is not enough to get back to the national team. As for his inning against Zim, I'd say he has to repeat that performance a couple times before claiming a place in the national team. Many a time we have brought in players based on one or two performances, and they have disappointed us. Same goes for Alok - one or two performances are not enough.

I remember when Ashraful came in to the side, not only was he scoring big in the domestic leagues, but he also scored something in excess of a hundred and fifty in a single inning against a very strong Australian Cricket Academy side. Alok and Rokon should be included under similar criteria.

Edited on, January 19, 2005, 3:58 PM GMT, by AsifTheManRahman.

pagol-chagol
January 19, 2005, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
yes, exactly. a 150 odd inning against a weak league team is not enough to get back to the national team. As for his inning against Zim, I'd say he has to repeat that performance a couple times before claiming a place in the national team.

Why does he have to repeat that performance a couple of times? Has any Bangladeshi player ever repeated that kind of performance against any test team? Have they even done it once? Even Ashraful's awesome innings(although against a better team) wasn't that destructive.

Can you imagine how the Zimbabuwe's players will feel when they will see him walking in? Yes, those 18 year old kids with impressionable mind will be terrified.

Why do you expect more from people you don't like?

AsifTheManRahman
January 19, 2005, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
yes, exactly. a 150 odd inning against a weak league team is not enough to get back to the national team. As for his inning against Zim, I'd say he has to repeat that performance a couple times before claiming a place in the national team.

Why does he have to repeat that performance a couple of times? Has any Bangladeshi player ever repeated that kind of performance against any test team? Have they even done it once? Even Ashraful's awesome innings(although against a better team) wasn't that destructive.

Can you imagine how the Zimbabuwe's players will feel when they will see him walking in? Yes, those 18 year old kids with impressionable mind will be terrified.

Why do you expect more from people you don't like?


Because Rokon has proved us wrong too many times, and his inning came at a time when we already have a bunch of players who are doing pretty well. There is nobody in the current team who can be dropped to bring Rokon in, unless he totally convinces everyone that he's not going to screw up this time.

amin
January 19, 2005, 12:36 PM
all bangladeshi player proved wrong too many times, some are still doing, if they got justice why not rokon? :E

AsifTheManRahman
January 19, 2005, 12:41 PM
the answer lies in the afridi style slogs that he used to come up with on a regular basis with the team at 2/3 down even before the opposition bowlers warmed themselves up.

besides, the fact remains that there's nobody in the current team who deserves to be thrown out. Rokon got his chances - he just didn't make proper use of them. All the coaches liked him - he just didn't do anything to keep their trust. Same goes to Hannan.

However, Rokon may come in if he can prove that he will not play danguli once he's called into the team again.

Imran
January 19, 2005, 10:53 PM
A lot of ppl around here talk without considering things seriously.
The thing is, last world cup cricket was in tv and most of the guys are still living on that performance. We needed a escape goat for our miserable performance and it is Rokon that we have chosen, cause he is different from others.He is an extremely talented cricketer in a bunch of mediocres and we completely misusing him.



1. Rokon does not slog like Afridi. Mind it, he was always the favorite batsman of all the foreign coaches. So do u think, coaches are stupid enough to make a slogger their favorite batsman?

2. The year he was dropped, his highest score was 70 odd runs against SA in SA in the test match. That was the time when Pollock was in his pick form and Rokon was the opener. And also this is bd cricketers highest score against Aus/SA in quality pitch in Aus/SA.

3. Everyone played miserably in World Cup, everyone got more than 1 chances (even without proving themselves by good score), whereas, this guy scored a blistering century against zbwe, then 160 odd runs in the next league game, and was not even considered in the A team!

after the zbwe match, all the Rokon haters said, he played too fast, too many strokes, so he was not picked in the test squad. Now it is ODI time, Kapali is chosen, what is your reason for not choosing Rokon?

Imran
( I am so surprised to read some of the baseless comments)

Imran
January 19, 2005, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
yes, exactly. a 150 odd inning against a weak league team is not enough to get back to the national team. As for his inning against Zim, I'd say he has to repeat that performance a couple times before claiming a place in the national team.

Why does he have to repeat that performance a couple of times? Has any Bangladeshi player ever repeated that kind of performance against any test team? Have they even done it once? Even Ashraful's awesome innings(although against a better team) wasn't that destructive.

Can you imagine how the Zimbabuwe's players will feel when they will see him walking in? Yes, those 18 year old kids with impressionable mind will be terrified.

Why do you expect more from people you don't like?


Because Rokon has proved us wrong too many times, and his inning came at a time when we already have a bunch of players who are doing pretty well. There is nobody in the current team who can be dropped to bring Rokon in, unless he totally convinces everyone that he's not going to screw up this time.

Who has not proved us wrong too many times? How aweful was Alok? Even Ashrafu/Raji Saleh? Why would Rokon has to play 150 odd innings more than once to get into the team.? Who else in the current team has scored 150 in any league match? A stroke maker can get out cheaply but if u drop him again and again (that's what we did in his whole career) and stick with players like Golla (will stay in the crease but you will never win in ODI) then we will never see ODI victory against quality teams.

For some reason Faruq hates Rokon.

Fazal
January 20, 2005, 08:39 AM
Care for More Alok anyone??

AsifTheManRahman
January 20, 2005, 09:42 AM
well, thanks to alok for proving me right

AsifTheManRahman
January 20, 2005, 09:44 AM
ajke rana ke khelaile amra jite jetam...

national teamer cap ta to ekta shosta nekra na...jaake taake dhoranor aage 2 bar chinta kora dorkar...aanen oi beta al shariarre aanen...dekhay dibo duck marar koto dhoroner style ase

reverse_swing
January 20, 2005, 09:49 AM
this is riduculous. We don't need Rokon anymore.

amin
January 20, 2005, 11:35 AM
why u dont need rokon? we need rokon for bangladesh team not for u.

reverse_swing
January 20, 2005, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by amin
why u dont need rokon? we need rokon for bangladesh team not for u.

I don't think he will get any more chance. He already got enough chances.