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ZaKi
January 28, 2005, 08:46 AM
12 players dec for 4th ODI...Tapash & Alok out from the final team... So final 11 players for the vital 4th ODI match will be selected from ...

1.Rajin
2.Nafis
3.Aftab
4.Ashraful
5.Bashar
6.Masud
7.Rafiq
8.Sujon
9.Mashrafee
10.Rana
11.Nazmul
12.Enamul (12th Man)

Edited on, January 28, 2005, 10:01 PM GMT, by ZaKi.

Shish Ahmed
January 28, 2005, 08:54 AM
Good ODI Team Overall!!

Must have been a close call between Tapash and Nazmul.

The toss could be the key with it being a day/night affair. Whoever bats first and gets the runs on the board, 230+ it could be very difficult again chasing.

Sam
January 28, 2005, 08:56 AM
My team for the 4th ODI:
1. Rajin Saleh
2. Nafis Iqbal
3. Aftab Ahmed
4. Habibul Bashar
5. Mashrafe bin Mortaza
6. Mohammad Ashraful
7. Khaled Mashud
8. Mohammad Rafiq
9. Khaled Mahmud
10. M. Islam Rana
11. Taposh Baishya

Sam
January 28, 2005, 09:00 AM
Yes Shish, toss is going to play the key role in this match. But I liked what Habibul Bashar told to the media," ...To prove that BD is a better team, we need to win by chasing at least one of the remaining two matches."

Shish Ahmed
January 28, 2005, 09:06 AM
Yes, I think it's a bit of mind games there from Basher he is just trying to make everyone aware that BD will be willing to chase as well.

But if he won the toss he will definetly bat first.

ZaKi
January 28, 2005, 09:10 AM
next 3 days hortal.... Sat sun & monday... So Khelai kono problem hobe naki aber :rolleyes:

Navarene
January 28, 2005, 09:56 AM
Tapash' absence might cost us dearly...not only for his bowling but also his batting.

Shish Ahmed
January 28, 2005, 09:59 AM
Hopefully Tapash and tails batting will not be needed!! Maybe the top order can do the business for us.

Fazal
January 28, 2005, 10:20 AM
If its true, its a good team (out of the 14s).

Glad that Alok is not there and Rana is rewarded for his performance in the last game.

Tapash vs Nazmul. Its a tough choice.

Tapash could add strength to the batting order, Specially last few slogging overs tapash could provide the punch. He is also a good strike bowler (better than Nazmul). Only negative is recently gives up too many runs in one day.

But selecting Nazmul is not bad. With his accurate line and length, he will keep the run in check and in the process will get some wickets. Good to see players are rewarded for their good performance in the last game. Only negative is if BD needs runs from the last few overs with Nazmul at bat.

But at the end its a good choice (out of the 14). :fire::fire:

mahbubH
January 28, 2005, 10:24 AM
How about Taposh instead of Chacha?

Mashkanda
January 28, 2005, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by sports_fan_bd
How about Taposh instead of Chacha?

Simply out of question.
"Puran chal bhate bare":D
Chacha is still an asset for ODI.

Fazal
January 28, 2005, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by sports_fan_bd
How about Taposh instead of Chacha?

Initially I thought about that. But after reviewing ChaCha's performance its a tough choice. I would say its even. Tapash is more of a Strinking bowler but ChaCha some how mange to get wicket and maintain the run rate. I feel both can be used as a slogger. But I wouldn't mind Tapash though...



FIRST ONE-DAY

ChaCha Batting: 34/30 as #8 (SR: 113)
ChaCha Bowling: 10-50-2 (Econ: 5)

Tapash Batting: 33/26 as #9 (SR: 127)
Tapash Bowling: 7-27-1 (Econ: 3.86)

2ND ONE-DAY
ChaCha Batting: 1/4 as #7 (SR: 25)
ChaCha Bowling: 08-35-1 (Econ: 4.38)

Tapash Batting: 3/4 as #10 (SR: 75)
Tapash Bowling: 6-33-0 (Econ: 5.50)

3RD ONE-DAY
ChaCha Batting: 9/7 as #9 (SR: 129)
ChaCha Bowling: 10-42-2 (Econ: 4.20)




Edited on, January 28, 2005, 3:55 PM GMT, by Fazal.
Reason: My mistake. Switched the score

Edited on, January 28, 2005, 3:57 PM GMT, by Fazal.

AsifTheManRahman
January 28, 2005, 10:49 AM
you mean odi's right?

Zobair
January 28, 2005, 10:51 AM
This batting order (if the actual match order) is interesting! The ODI team seems to be undergoing a silent revolution. Bashar seem to be be moving into the middle-order while the young-guns are moving up the order. This change would echo that of Pakistan's where Shoaib Malik has been made a successful number 3 in ODIs, and Inzy has moved down the order.



Originally posted by ZaKi
Enamul, Tapash & Alok out from the final team... So final 11 players for the vital 4th ODI match...

1.Rajin
2.Nafis
3.Aftab
4.Ashraful
5.Bashar
6.Masud
7.Rafiq
8.Sujon
9.Mashrafee
10.Rana
11.Nazmul


Source: B.khela

ZaKi
January 28, 2005, 10:51 AM
Chacha played TEST ?

Edited on, January 28, 2005, 3:53 PM GMT, by ZaKi.

Fazal
January 28, 2005, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
you mean odi's right?

Yes. We are talking about ODI.

Ops. Thanks. I corrected it

Edited on, January 28, 2005, 3:58 PM GMT, by Fazal.

ZaKi
January 28, 2005, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by pompous
This batting order (if the actual match order) is interesting! The ODI team seems to be undergoing a silent revolution. Bashar seem to be be moving into the middle-order while the young-guns are moving up the order. This change would echo that of Pakistan's where Shoaib Malik has been made a successful number 3 in ODIs, and Inzy has moved down the order.



Originally posted by ZaKi
Enamul, Tapash & Alok out from the final team... So final 11 players for the vital 4th ODI match...

1.Rajin
2.Nafis
3.Aftab
4.Ashraful
5.Bashar
6.Masud
7.Rafiq
8.Sujon
9.Mashrafee
10.Rana
11.Nazmul


Source: B.khela

pompous, no it's my batting order... I think Whatmore should try new middle order batting line up. Both Rajin & Aftab played well when they batted as a top order batsman...actully we should try young & stroke players in the first 15 overs... & later 16-35 overs experienced middle-order batsmen....i think that will help us... but main problem is lack of mature & experienced players... once we had nannu, akram,faruk,bulbul...player.. but now ? all r storke players....who like to hit 4/6 rather than 1/2...thats a big problem... as we saw fisrt 3 odi, when BD needs just stay in the wicket.. & at that time Ashraful,Aftab even Rajin,Nafis just through their wickets...coz our young batsmen couldn't use old ball properly..... & we failed to score a competitive score... we need 2 more pilot in this team....;)

Edited on, January 28, 2005, 4:10 PM GMT, by ZaKi.

akabir77
January 28, 2005, 11:12 AM
I hope there is no tear gas in the stadium area cause i remember one time they had abonden a match cause of it as all the plaryer and supporters where crying the field..... and i was one of them....

ZaKi
January 28, 2005, 11:20 AM
was that a cricket match ? or football ? Football e to prai hoto..:P

cracky
January 28, 2005, 11:44 AM
I would prefer Taposh instead of chacha. 3 genuine pacers with 2 good off spinners, Zimabwe would have found it tough to make even 200 runs.

Edited on, January 28, 2005, 4:52 PM GMT, by cracky.

Fazal
January 28, 2005, 12:01 PM
“We have nothing to do, we have to run the match,” members secretary of the series’ security committee Adnan Rahman Dipon told the Bangladesh Observer on Friday.

“We’ll arrange adequate security during the match and for the teams on their way to the stadium and hotel,” he said.

He revealed that they would expand the number of security members from 800 to 1300 including <b>Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) on and off the field</b>.
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Looks like the game will be on time. Just watch out for cross-fire.... otherwise every thing will be fine.

amra_korbo_joy
January 28, 2005, 12:56 PM
cracky: no way chacha almost always takes wkts besides his strikes
rates is high. He is perfect ODI player.

Blah
January 28, 2005, 01:04 PM
Actually when it comes to comparison with tapash and chacha, in my opinion tapash is still a better choice.

Blah

Bangla Mostan
January 28, 2005, 02:51 PM
see thats what i dont understand..we talk about possibly regretting leaving Taposh out..because of his batting abilities..but do we have to always rely on him....wat are the SPECIALIST BATSMEN there for..to eat grass...to make the cut shots smoother..man..its thier job to score the runs.....its about time they started to click and all of them at the right time as well!!

Zephaniah
January 28, 2005, 02:53 PM
My team for the 4th ODI, batting order wise:
1. Rajin Saleh
2. Nafis Iqbal
3. Aftab Ahmed
4. Habibul Bashar
5. Mohammad Ashraful
6. Khaled Masud
7. Mashrafe bin Mortaza
8. Mohammad Rafiq
9. Khaled Mahmud
10. M. Islam Rana
11. Nazmul Hussain

sadi
January 28, 2005, 02:53 PM
chacha is doing allright and should be on the team... taposh is good... but right now...he gota wait....

Bangla Mostan
January 28, 2005, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by ZaKi
Enamul, Tapash & Alok out from the final team... So final 11 players for the vital 4th ODI match...

1.Rajin
2.Nafis
3.Aftab
4.Ashraful
5.Bashar
6.Masud
7.Rafiq
8.Sujon
9.Mashrafee
10.Rana
11.Nazmul
Source: B.khela

those top 5 batsmen should be able to add around 40-50 runs each..then the rest should add 60 together...making 260.....but what we need from these players is a century..

al
January 28, 2005, 03:09 PM
looks ok to me. tapash will be missed

Mahir
January 28, 2005, 03:11 PM
Well, amongst all these dilemmas regarding the choice between Tapash and Chacha, I tend to think that BD selection committee might drop Nazmul to make way for Tapash, and play the unit of Mashrafe, Tapash and Chacha. In any case, this is my pick for the 4th ODI :

1. Rajin Saleh
2. Nafees Iqbal
3. Aftab Ahmed
4. Habibul Bashar
5. Mohammad Ashraful
6. Khaled Masud
7. Khaled Mahmud
8. Mohammad Rafique
9. Mashrafe Mortaza
10. M. Islam Rana
11. Tapash Baisya

* Few points to be noted : Rafique might be sent up the order, if necessary. Well, if some explosion is really needed to make quick runs, Mashrafe could bat anywhere in the line-up, as he also fills in the role of a pinch-hitter. But Rafique would be the logical choice because of his superior experience. And I doubt if Rana will bat in the 10th... he usually comes earlier.

Mahir
January 28, 2005, 03:13 PM
but dont make one mistake : exclusion of Enamul Jr. from the ODI line-up should not at all mean that he is the odd-man out. Enamul Jr. IS a fixture in our Test squad.

Imtiaz
January 28, 2005, 03:21 PM
Enamul will be back soon, not to worry. If Rana is to be relegated to No.10, i.e. he is being selected as a bowler, then it is just a matter of time.

Rafique must go in, if a wicket falls in the early overs. If the openers have negotiated the first 10 overs safely, then Aftab should go in as No.3. Rafique then joins Mashrafe just after Mashud.

The team is shaping up well. I predict, the team that will play in England [ in ODI ] will be the same except Tapash and Enamul will come in for Mahmud and Rana.

Has anyone noticed taht it is barely five months since the U-19 tour of England and Nafis and Aftab have consolidated their positions and Nazmul nearly so.

Mahir
January 28, 2005, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Imtiaz
Has anyone noticed taht it is barely five months since the U-19 tour of England and Nafis and Aftab have consolidated their positions and Nazmul nearly so.

I believe Nafees wasnt part of that squad. But its certainly true that Bangladesh is a majority team of youngsters and fresh blood. The likes of Aftab, Enamul, Nazmul are proving themselves constantly!

Fazal
January 28, 2005, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Imtiaz
Has anyone noticed taht it is barely five months since the U-19 tour of England and Nafis and Aftab have consolidated their positions and Nazmul nearly so.

:up: So people who thinks that the other Nafees should be given a chance to two in one-day games may have some point after all. The record for u-19 are good so far.:up:

Mahir
January 28, 2005, 03:28 PM
actually No, Shahriar Nafees Ahmed shouldnt be brought in the international arena just yet. He rather develop his game and brush up skills in the domestic level. He will surely get his chance later!

Sadrul
January 28, 2005, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by Sam
My team for the 4th ODI:
1. Rajin Saleh
2. Nafis Iqbal
3. Aftab Ahmed
4. Habibul Bashar
5. Mashrafe bin Mortaza
6. Mohammad Ashraful
7. Khaled Mashud
8. Mohammad Rafiq
9. Khaled Mahmud
10. M. Islam Rana
11. Taposh Baishya

I agree with this team and order of batting

feisal
January 28, 2005, 05:33 PM
with the late middle order we have it will be dificult, if not impossible to CHASE a decent score. We got to bowl well and restrict them within 200/20... Or top order has to make sure that they finish the job...

shujan
January 28, 2005, 06:00 PM
This thread is confusing. This 11 is not official.

amra_korbo_joy
January 28, 2005, 06:21 PM
Eleven is not confirm but considering the batting allrounder capability, we can see that Rana will be in and jr will be out.

This will THE best ODI team. From day 1, I would have selected this eleven. Selectors took so many days to come up with this eleven.

Had the top order bating more reliable, I would select Enamul but you know the condition of our top order batsman.

Taposh gives lot of run in ODI, though he can take wicket ==> not good for ODI. Taposh shd be selected in Test.

Edited on, January 28, 2005, 11:22 PM GMT, by amra_korbo_joy.