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mahbubH
March 20, 2005, 08:18 AM
The International Cricket Council (ICC) is contemplating reducing the number of teams in the Champions Trophy tournament from 12 to eight, ICC president Ehsan Mani said on Sunday.

"We are looking at the possibility of reducing the teams to eight in the ICC Trophy to make it more competitive," Mani told reporters at Eden Gardens.

Under the proposed format, the host country and top five teams in the ICC one-day rankings would get direct entry while the other four with Test status would play each other for the two remaining places, said Mani.

The Champions Trophy, held every two years since 1998, is the second-biggest global cricketing event after the World Cup.

Mani, whose tenure has been extended for a year until June 2006, denied the ICC had threatened to refuse India the 2006 edition over a tax exemption row.

"There have been no threats from the ICC which has only asked the Indian government to waive taxes on the event and we have been given a positive response by them," said Mani, a Pakistani based in England.

India lost the right to stage the 2002 Champions Trophy because it would not exempt the tournament from tax.

"The ICC has given India three months to sort out the matter and we hope for a positive outcome," he said.

Mani said the ICC cricket committee was also considering a few changes to make one-day cricket less predictable.

"We realise the concerns of a lot of people that one-day cricket is getting predictable. The cricket committee is considering a change in the field restrictions for the first 15 overs," he said.

"The proposal is to leave it to the bowling side whether they want to use it in the first 15 overs or in the last."

Mani said the Twenty-20 format of one-day cricket which sees 20-overs-a-side matches would take time to flourish.

"Twenty-20 is played in England but not at the national level. Australia started it in their last season and so did New Zealand recently, but it will take time to flourish," Mani said.

The ICC president disagreed with Pakistan's proposal of having two neutral umpires in limited-overs cricket.

"We have two neutral umpires in Tests and if we do it in One-Day Internationals as well, it will hamper the grooming of home umpires," said Mani.

At present One-Day Internationals are officiated by one neutral and one home umpire.

Pakistan had proposed two neutral umpires in One-Day Internationals after they objected to a few controversial decisions by home umpires in the tri-series in Australia early this year.

Source: HTcricket

Ahmed_B
March 20, 2005, 08:30 AM
Originally posted in HTcricket
Under the proposed format, the host country and top five teams in the ICC one-day rankings would get direct entry while [b]the other four with Test status[b] would play each other for the two remaining places, said Mani.
This could be interesting!

Surely the bottom 2 of those last 4 will be Bangladesh & ZImbabwe. I wonder if the bottom 2/3 teams of the first 8-ranked are prepared to face such a format where they may have to deal with the risk of being left out and making room for ZIM/BD to enter the first 8 to play the Champ Trophy!

I would say it will be an acceptable & exciting challenge (for BD)!

Tintin
March 20, 2005, 08:47 AM
I wonder if the bottom 2/3 teams of the first 8-ranked are prepared to face such a format where they may have to deal with the risk of being left out


Those two bottom teams at the moment happen to be India and England

mahbubH
March 20, 2005, 08:59 AM
>> Those two bottom teams at the moment happen to be India and England

Assuming India the host team .. I guess we will get a try against WI.

cricman
March 20, 2005, 10:30 AM
this is very intresting

little_master
March 20, 2005, 11:23 AM
Interesting!
BD ZIM ENG WI....which two will make final 8?
ENG and WI? or there any surprise?:-/

Mahmood
March 20, 2005, 12:13 PM
This is definitly a fair call.

cricketboy
March 20, 2005, 12:30 PM
But i dont think Bangladesh can make it through sadly. :(

Do you guys remember England beat Australia in the last champions trophy and played the final with West Indieswho was the champion!

fwullah
March 20, 2005, 01:52 PM
But i dont think Bangladesh can make it through sadly.


Well, on paper, we don't have any chance of being in the 8-nations' ICC Champion's trophy, but we could get the opportunity to face a team who will be under pressure in a knock out match to win.

Remember the New Zealand/ Zimbabwe match in the (qualifying) match in the 1998 Mini World Cup in Dhaka? I think the winning team of that match was supposed to play in yet another knock out match to beat another team.

Either way, we will get a wonderful opportunity to gain an upset victory as we will not be expecting our team to win the qualifying match (but secretly, we'll be hoping for an upset win blink :embaressed: )

Rubu
March 20, 2005, 02:05 PM
i liked it.

instead of playing the top ranked team we get to play the bottom ranked ones. a better chance to win.

now, is it gonna be knock out of round robin?

AsifTheManRahman
March 20, 2005, 03:33 PM
fair enough - this way we won't get axed automatically. i wonder whether this will ensure more odi wins for us as well, since our players will know that there's no alternative to a win, and that losing here will be a greater loss than losing in a series ODI or even a WC ODI. we may see more risky shots and a more aggressive attitude, which may lead to either a win or a bad, bad loss. :)

Akib
March 20, 2005, 10:21 PM
No matter how much i want BD or Zim to play it makes sense. The tournament is called Champions trophy so it should be the best teams.

rockpundit
March 21, 2005, 12:50 AM
I am actually quite in favour of this decision. Its great that the ICC is trying to shake up international One Day cricket. The 8 teams decision is also pretty interesting, finally we'll see some competition just to get into the tournament.

islam
March 21, 2005, 04:03 AM
Yes make the best teams play, kick out bd,zim they only make the games last 1 hour.

fwullah
March 21, 2005, 04:24 AM
since our players will know that there's no alternative to a win, and that losing here will be a greater loss than losing in a series ODI or even a WC ODI. we may see more risky shots and a more aggressive attitude, which may lead to either a win or a bad, bad loss


On the contrary, we'll be going into this tournament in the following mindset:- Its just a game, we'll have nothing to lose if we lose a single ODI, but we'll have everything to gain if we can beat 1 team - preferably either England or West Indies.

bourny3
March 21, 2005, 04:37 AM
BD and ZIms wont make it.

fy288
March 21, 2005, 05:55 AM
this is proposition is disrespectful to both zim and BD, we are test playing nations and we both should be involved in this competition.

it should be 10 nations at least orr go straight to the top 4 teams battling out for the trophy.

cricket_pagla
March 21, 2005, 06:04 AM
BD = Champions
ZIM = runners-up
:great:

istiak
March 21, 2005, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by fy288
this is proposition is disrespectful to both zim and BD, we are test playing nations and we both should be involved in this competition.

it should be 10 nations at least orr go straight to the top 4 teams battling out for the trophy.

What is disrespectful in it?

bdmoderator
March 21, 2005, 01:43 PM
So I think Bangladesh will not be in the Champions Trophy.

israr
March 21, 2005, 02:03 PM
one sec, i am confused a liitle bit, all the matches will be in knockout format, right:info:.......

Spitfire_x86
March 21, 2005, 04:45 PM
A good decision by ICC :up:

Last ICC Champions Trophy really became unattractive.

Fazal
March 21, 2005, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
A good decision by ICC :up:

Last ICC Champions Trophy really became unattractive.

Good for them bad for us.:down:

Shehwar
March 22, 2005, 10:46 AM
Its pretty simple really.......They just want us and Zim out of the tournamnet.....

AsifTheManRahman
March 22, 2005, 11:21 AM
yeah this is probably the "bhodro way" of doing that:)

i've no complaints though

Edited on, March 22, 2005, 4:24 PM GMT, by AsifTheManRahman.