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Zephaniah
March 29, 2005, 03:52 PM
Selectors go for probables
Sports Reporter

The national selectors submitted a 20-member preliminary squad to the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) yesterday for the tour of England in May.

The four-member selection panel had initially planned to announce the Tigers' final squad for the two-match Test series considering the fact that the selected players would not be able to play in the ongoing National League.


But they preferred a more conservative approach keeping in mind the tour's duration and injury problems.


"We changed our decision regarding submitting a preliminary squad because it is going to be a long trip and also we have injury problems. We have requested the Board to give us a fitness reports on Mohammad Rafique, Nafees Iqbal and Nazmul Hossain," said chief selector Faruque Ahmed.


"After talking to Dav (Whatmore) over telephone, we finalised the preliminary squad," he said.


Whatmore, who attended the wedding of Sri Lankan off-spinner Muttiah Muralithan, is expected to return to Dhaka on April 3, a day before the camp starts.

Faruque also informed a 16-member final squad would be revealed on April 20.

Source : daily star

Edited on, March 29, 2005, 8:56 PM GMT, by Zephaniah.

BD Tigers
March 29, 2005, 04:06 PM
so who are the players????

pagol-chagol
March 29, 2005, 04:14 PM
No names?

Edited on, March 29, 2005, 9:26 PM GMT, by pagol-chagol.

Fazal
March 29, 2005, 04:17 PM
Good that it will be 16-member final squad . Not 14 or 15.

Samir
March 29, 2005, 05:26 PM
BCB to name initial squad today

Bangladesh Cricket Board is likely to declare a 19-member preliminary national squad today for the upcoming England tour. The team will begin its practice session on April 4. They will depart for England in the first week of May to play two Test matches against England. Later Bangladesh will play a triangular series involving Australia. The probable squad : Habibul Bashar, Khaled Mashud, Nafees Iqbal, Javed Omar, Mohammad Ashraful, Rajin Saleh, Aftab Ahmed, Mohammad Rafique, Enamul Haque Jr, Tapash Baisya, Mashrafee bin Mortaza, Talha Jubair, Manjarul Islam Rana, Alok Kapali, Abdur Razzak, Nazmul Hossain, Mushfiqur Rahman, Shahadat Hossain and Khaled Mahmud.
New Age

Rubu
March 29, 2005, 05:44 PM
i know its a probable squad, but if we are to select a 16 member squad from here, the task is very easy: kapali, mushfique and rajjak gets kicked out.

my first guess was that kapali mushfiq and talha will get the kick, but in english condition there is no way we gonna take 4 SLA.

Fazal
March 29, 2005, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Samir
BCB to name initial squad today

The probable squad : Habibul Bashar, Khaled Mashud, Nafees Iqbal, Javed Omar, Mohammad Ashraful, ..., <b>Alok Kapali</b>, Abdur Razzak, Nazmul Hossain, Mushfiqur Rahman, Shahadat Hossain and Khaled Mahmud.

:lol:

Simulation
March 29, 2005, 06:36 PM
My 16 man squad

Bashar, Mashud, Nafis, Javed, Rana, Nazmul, Mashrafe, Ashraful, Rajin, Aftab, Rafique, Enamul Jnr, Tapash, Alok, Mahmud, Jubair

There's no point having 4 SLA's in the squad, Mushfiqur's a has-been I'd much prefer have the experience of Mahmud (as much as I don't like it). Shahadat has failed in every big game he's played, I'd prefer have Talha. I'd rather have Tushar instead of Alok but since Tushar wasn't in the primary squad Alok stays.

RazabQ
March 29, 2005, 07:16 PM
The preliminary squad is a joke. What possible reason does Alok or Mushfique have of getting in? One 50 a summer does not make :)

RazabQ
March 29, 2005, 07:38 PM
On the same vein, the selectors are really missing a beat here. Kapali is highly unlikely to go, and at this point calling him to camp would not enable Whatmore & gang to learn anything new. It might have been a lot better if someone like Golam Rahman was called up as a probable. Just so the powers that be could observe how the youngster carried himself amongst the Sr. squad, how coachable he was etc. No less an authority than McInnis himself said that he first started to realize the potential in Enamul Jr. by the way he acted when he was called up in the Sr. squad. And this is not a new thing either. Sides like Australia (with Cameron or England with Ian Bell) have brought in youngsters just to hang with the senior squad.

Golam Rahman has the most centuries this year _and_ he is an opener! And he scored his latest 100 agaist a newball pairing of Talha & Monir. That's not bad at all. Infact that's his 2nd century against this attack.

pagol-chagol
March 29, 2005, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by razabq
On the same vein, the selectors are really missing a beat here. Kapali is highly unlikely to go, and at this point calling him to camp would not enable Whatmore & gang to learn anything new. It might have been a lot better if someone like Golam Rahman was called up as a probable. Just so the powers that be could observe how the youngster carried himself amongst the Sr. squad, how coachable he was etc. No less an authority than McInnis himself said that he first started to realize the potential in Enamul Jr. by the way he acted when he was called up in the Sr. squad. And this is not a new thing either. Sides like Australia (with Cameron or England with Ian Bell) have brought in youngsters just to hang with the senior squad.

Golam Rahman has the most centuries this year _and_ he is an opener! And he scored his latest 100 agaist a newball pairing of Talha & Monir. That's not bad at all. Infact that's his 2nd century against this attack.

These are just personal opinions. The 20 member list isn't out yet. Don't need to worry about Alok.

Beamer
March 29, 2005, 10:24 PM
Until the list is official I guess no point arguing about it. But they better pick another opener in this squad. That is more important than who is the other middle order bat ( among kapali, tushar etc..) in the prelim. squad.

Fazal
March 29, 2005, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by razabq
On the same vein, the selectors are really missing a beat here. Kapali is highly unlikely to go, and at this point calling him to camp would not enable Whatmore & gang to learn anything new. It might have been a lot better if someone like Golam Rahman was called up as a probable. .

:up:

Dhakablues
March 30, 2005, 02:22 AM
There would be very slim chances of surprises,, other than Alok is not going be selected ( as if we didnt know that already). Faruk already mentioned that he is not going to break the winning combination.. so its pretty much the same squad again with the inclusion of 3-4 others. My guess:
Bashar, Mashud, Mahmud, Rafique, Nafis, Javed Omar (?), Aftab, Ashraful, Mashrafee, Taposh, Nazmul, Rana, Enamul and then,,,Shadat Rajib, Tusher Imran and the surprise inclusion.

Mr-khan
March 30, 2005, 07:44 AM
Final squad (http://www.bangladesherkhela.com/default.asp?strrefer=displayocr&straction=headline&iItemID=12827&iCategoryID=1)

Navarene
March 30, 2005, 08:14 AM
The preliminary 20 man squad for England tour are as follows:

Habibul Bashar(C), Khaled Mashud, Khaled mahmud, Mohammad Ashraful, Javed Omar, Rajin Saleh, Nafees Iqbal, Aftab Ahmed, Tushar Imran, Shahriar Nafis Ahmed, Mohammad Rafique, Manzurul Islam Rana, Enamul Haque Jr, Masrafe Bin Murtaza, Tapash baisya, Nazmul Hussain, Anwar Hussain Munir, Talha Zubair, Shahadat Hussain Rajib, Abdur Razzaq

I wonder why Anwar Hussain Munir got a call. We already see 5 seamers in the 20 man squad. Munir is the 6th one and the weakest link among them. He is no better than Mushfiqur Rahman and neither we saw this bloke did anything better in NCL to mark his place even for the preliminary squad. Instead selectors could have focused on some new face like Golam Rahman, as someone has mentioned in the other post.

Edited on, March 30, 2005, 8:46 PM GMT, by Navarene.
Reason: typo

akabir77
March 30, 2005, 08:46 AM
Anwar's channel is much stronger than mushfiq's I guess????

By the way whats the source NAV?

Ahmed_B
March 30, 2005, 08:50 AM
Even though there are some new faces in the 20.. I doubt if there is any possibility of a new face in the playing games at all.

Shahadat has the highest chance of debut I suppose.

Edited on, March 30, 2005, 1:56 PM GMT, by crickethorizon.

Mr-khan
March 30, 2005, 08:56 AM
Anwar Hussain Munir ar main team or 16 man squad a thakar kono chance nai.Oeta holo camp ar bolwer.Bashar,Ashraful der batting practise korar jonno oke dakse.So oke niye tension ar kichu e nai.But Sanowar or Mushfiq,ae 2 joner 1 jon thakle ekta kotha chilo.

Fazal
March 30, 2005, 10:01 AM
:fire::fire: Alok is not there.

Now lets predict (for fun) who will be in the final 16.

<b>Who are in for sure?</b>
1. Bashar
2. Pilot
3. Ashraful
4. Rajin
5. Nafees Iqbal
6. Aftab
7. Rafique
8. Masrafe
9. Tapash
10 Enamul

<b> Who are also in </b>
11. Javed
12. ChaCha
13. Rana
14. Nazmul


<b>Who are out?</b>
Razzak
Munir


<b>Now who are the other two (slot#15 and slot#16)?</b>

So the competition is between:
Case-I) Tushar and Shahriar Nafis for one slot. The other will be out.
Case-II) Talha and Shahadat for the other slot. The other will be out.


<b>Now what is going to happen (about slot#15 and slot#16)?</b>

Most likely
15) Tushar, and
16) Talha will be in.

<b>What I would like to happen (about slot#15 and slot#16)?</b>
15) Shahriar Nafis and
16) Shahadat.

<b>Why</b>
Case-I: I prefer both instead of Javed. But that is not going to happen. IN that case, I prefer Shahriar Nafis instead of Tushar. Beacuse I don't feel comfortable at all with Javed opening for the team. I feel more comfortable with Shahriar Nafis in the team of 16 as a standby player in case Javed fails.

Case-II: I prefer Shahadat instead of Talha. Their role will be mainly a bench warmer with some chance in warmup matches and may be one one-day match. Even though I still like Talha's potential, this time I like to give Shahadat some exposure and reward him a little bit for his recent good performance. May be it will motivate him further and surprise us all when/if he get a chance due to injury of our top seamers (or to give them some rest).



Edited on, March 30, 2005, 3:17 PM GMT, by Fazal.

tansir
March 30, 2005, 10:14 AM
I completely agree with the 20 probables for Eng series, except for Anwar Hossain Munir. Seems like Faruq and Co. always tend to create a mistery or two. It would've been perfect to see Shafaq instead, as we deperately need one lefty seamer. He could've gained valuable experience while playing in tour matches. May be MacInnes isn't sure about his fitness :lol:.

Probably, Munir got the nod after a decent performance in Duleep Trophy disaster. .oops:

pagol-chagol
March 30, 2005, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
:fire::fire: Alok is not there.

Now lets predict (for fun) who will be in the final 16.

<b>Who are in for sure?</b>
1. Bashar
2. Pilot
3. Ashraful
4. Rajin
5. Nafees Iqbal
6. Aftab
7. Rafique
8. Masrafe
9. Tapash
10 Enamul

<b> Who are also in </b>
11. Javed
12. ChaCha
13. Rana
14. Nazmul


<b>Who are out?</b>
Razzak
Munir


<b>Now who are the other two (slot#15 and slot#16)?</b>

So the competition is between:
Case-I) Tushar and Shahriar Nafis for one slot. The other will be out.
Case-II) Talha and Shahadat for the other slot. The other will be out.


<b>Now what is going to happen (about slot#15 and slot#16)?</b>

Most likely
15) Tushar, and
16) Talha will be in.

<b>What I would like to happen (about slot#15 and slot#16)?</b>
15) Shahriar Nafis and
16) Shahadat.

<b>Why</b>
Case-I: I prefer both instead of Javed. But that is not going to happen. IN that case, I prefer Shahriar Nafis instead of Tushar. Beacuse I don't feel comfortable at all with Javed opening for the team. I feel more comfortable with Shahriar Nafis in the team of 16 as a standby player in case Javed fails.

Case-II: I prefer Shahadat instead of Talha. Their role will be mainly a bench warmer with some chance in warmup matches and may be one one-day match. Even though I still like Talha's potential, this time I like to give Shahadat some exposure and reward him a little bit for his recent good performance. May be it will motivate him further and surprise us all when/if he get a chance due to injury of our top seamers (or to give them some rest).



Edited on, March 30, 2005, 3:17 PM GMT, by Fazal.

:up:

pagol-chagol
March 30, 2005, 10:21 AM
Anwar is a net bowler. You rather have an experienced net bowler than a kid like Shafaq.

mahbubH
March 30, 2005, 10:22 AM
I think Monir is better bowler than those who were left out. I think Rassel is above of Shafaq in picking order (based on the performance of Zim tour). Monir is more experienced than Rassel and Rassel is going Australia for six months training ... inclusion of Monir in 20 probables is not a bad idea.

mahbubH
March 30, 2005, 10:24 AM
Notable players missed out: Rokon, Alok, Hannan

AsifTheManRahman
March 30, 2005, 10:25 AM
i wouldn't want tushar imran in the top sixteen. IMO, he just hasn't done enough to be in the national side. a couple of half centuries against the UAE (with all due respect to them) or a weak Zim A side doesn't mean much to me. i agree with Fazal - if we <i><b>have</b></i> to chose sixteen men then i'd rather have shahriar nafees in the team as a back up opener. tushar can come back after proving himself against stronger opponents - we do need a back up in the middle order.

as for the sixteenth spot - what difference does it really make if we pick rajib over talha or vice versa? neither is ready for international cricket; they'll probably be allowed to play a couple of practice matches and will mainly play the role of net bowlers in england.

AsifTheManRahman
March 30, 2005, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by sports_fan_bd
Rassel is going Australia for six months training ...

that sounds interesting. can you give me more details on that? or perhaps a link? :)

six months is a long time :)

Fazal
March 30, 2005, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by sports_fan_bd
Notable players missed out: Rokon, Alok, Hannan

And Mushfique.;)

mahbubH
March 30, 2005, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
Originally posted by sports_fan_bd
Rassel is going Australia for six months training ...

that sounds interesting. can you give me more details on that? or perhaps a link? :)

six months is a long time :)

Sorry, I forgot the link. I read in a BD newspaper that Rassel and Mehrab jr. is going Australia for six months for training. They will also play some league cricket there. Probably they will leave BD in the first week of April.

AsifTheManRahman
March 30, 2005, 10:38 AM
well, that is very good news then. i remember young bd players going to australia on training on various occassions in the past, however, not for as long a term as six months, and they definitely did not play in local leagues there (in general; there may be exceptions).

mahbubH
March 30, 2005, 11:10 AM
3 Openers : Nafees I/Nafees A/Javed Omar
6 Middle orders : Basher, Ashraful, Rajin, Tusher, Aftab, Rana
3 Spinners : Rafique, Razzak, Enamul
7 Pacers : Khaled Mahmud, Talha, Shahadat, Mashrafee, Monir, Taposh, Nazmul
1 WK : Khaled Masud
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My 16:

3 Openers : Nafees I/Nafees A/Javed Omar
5 Middle orders : Basher, Ashraful, Rajin, Aftab, Rana
2 Spinners : Rafique, Enamul
5 Pacers : Khaled Mahmud, Talha, Mashrafee, Taposh, Nazmul
1 WK : Khaled Masud

AsifTheManRahman
March 30, 2005, 11:11 AM
question: who'll keep if pilot gets injured?

mashrafe? ;) nah j/k...seriously: do we have anyone good enough to replace him in the middle of the tour in case of a mishap?

Mahmood
March 30, 2005, 11:14 AM
I would go with Shahadat instead of Talha. Other than that, this looks good.