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pagol-chagol
March 31, 2005, 02:19 PM
So he finally wakes up.

Consecutive half centuries. 11 wickets in the last 2 innings.

cricinfo score card (http://www.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/BDESH_LOCAL/NCL/SCORECARDS/SYLHET_DHAKA_NCL_28-31MAR2005.html)

He might be back with a vengeance

Edited on, March 31, 2005, 10:42 PM GMT, by Zunaid.
Reason: edited link

Beamer
March 31, 2005, 02:24 PM
Little bit too late..missed the tour party!

pagol-chagol
March 31, 2005, 02:34 PM
Yep. Missed the train.

Well the train might come back if there is an injury.

Fazal
March 31, 2005, 02:42 PM
This time Kapalir Pora Kopal.

Mistiming ... bate Bole shonjog Holoo Na...

cricket_pagol
March 31, 2005, 02:51 PM
What is he doing? I hope he is not trying to get back in the team too soon!!!!!!!

oracle
March 31, 2005, 02:56 PM
If he can continue to improvise his legspin and the googlies that he has conjured occassionally then he is always in the selectors minds. I am guessing that he manages to spin googlies more frequently now.

The batting debacle that has characterised his performances is a mystery as I thought it was an aspect of his game that he could control.

chyicarus
March 31, 2005, 03:24 PM
Well good thing that he's back his form, at least he can represent BD A in their tours, which is good if there is competition among players to be in the playing XI.
I would like to see other challenging even Ashraful's position with their perofrmances and talent and consistency.
This is how we can produce a huge pool of players not just expect the national cricketers to scores big and get plenty of wickets.

Sham
March 31, 2005, 03:29 PM
I think missing the England train might be the best thing that has happened to him. Gives him a long time to regroup and have a think about his game and what he has been doing wrong in the last year and a half. Surely, missing out on a tour like this will hurt because the chance to play at Lord's won't come again for several year. That should make him determined to work his way into the side by getting his form and consistency back!

cricketboy
March 31, 2005, 04:00 PM
Why is it his bad luck, he can come back in the team for future series if he continues to perform well. :-/

Mahmood
March 31, 2005, 04:02 PM
Kapali was originally a spinner, but somehow, his focus/role got shifted to being a batsman. The team did not use his bowling much, so it became for him a batting role and h lost it all.

I personally think, he should concentrate on bowling more and come in the team as a bowler, his batting is a bonus. Focusin on batting makes his batting go worse, he has proven it.

I hope he realizes his role from this performence.

Mahmood
March 31, 2005, 04:07 PM
Look at his Debut test.

<a href="http://plus1.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/2002/BDESH_IN_SL/SCORECARDS/BDESH_SL_T2_28JUL-01AUG2002.html">Click Here.</a>

He bowled the most overs on the first inning taking 2 wickets, Batted at position 7, did better batting than others, so got a promotion in the second innings to 6th. Since then, we know him as the batsman.

RazabQ
March 31, 2005, 05:36 PM
Having watched Alok Kapali both bowl and bat (live and on TV), there's no doubt in my mind that his natural talent is for batting. Great legspinners like Benaud, Qadir, Warne and Gilla-monster (if he played for anyother country Stuey would have had 300+ wickets by now) have two things in common:

1) They can rip the ball reall good. Each do it in their own way. Warne uses his broud shoulder, McGill a serious wrist action.Qadir and Kaneria (who is so obviously modeled after Qadir) generate spin from a hustlin run-up that uncoils their hole body at the point or release. The superior amount of RPM is essential to beat the batsmen by drift, turn and bite.

2) They all have great control on their action. This control allows - in the case of Warne to be very accurate (ppl don't realize how metronomic he is, he's a spinner's version of McGrath), in the case of Qadir & Kaneria, the ability to be very deceptive, and in McGill's case - great variety (he has two types of googlies for e.g. - tho he will bowl the occasional dross)

With Kapali, I'm sure with practice he could get the 2nd part down, but he is not that big a spinner of the ball. In fact, I believe Ashraful is a bigger turner that him. Alok has a slim build and his action is a fairly relaxed one. His googly can be well disguised but like most average leggies he tends to bowl it a fraction short.

So my point? I do not think Kapali's future is as a leg spinner. Rather his natural gift of timing, elegance of strokeplay, and underrated power are just waiting to be allied to a proper temparement for Alok to become a world-class batsmen. The legspin, with more bowling, can become a nice feather in his cap, much like Katich's chinamans or Tendulkar's bowling.

Also if you think about it, our future test side - unless playing on a custom-built dustbowl - is more likely to feature only one frontline spinner. I am confident that spinner will be Enamul Jr. With 3 pacers, the way into the side will be as a batting all-rounder. As such I see Kapali fighting it out with Rana or Aftab in the near future and perhaps Syed Rassel further down.

A caveat: People may have noticed the absence of Kumble - this is because I see Kumble as more of a medium pacer than a spinner.

Edited on, March 31, 2005, 10:40 PM GMT, by razabq.

AsifTheManRahman
March 31, 2005, 05:48 PM
yes razab i agree with you on kumble - he rarely turns the ball, and bowls pretty quick (probably quicker than chacha :D)

i've watched kapali bat on several occassions. trust me (those of you who haven't watched him, that is, and i doubt there's anyone) - he is as much talented as ashraful, if not more. however, i would rate him above ashraful because when i saw him bat i realized that this was a guy who could use his head, who had reached a level of maturity way advanced for his age. the ease with which he demolished the WI attack in dhaka was something that any batsman in the world would be envious of...

it is indeed very depressing to see such a talent go to waste...however, it is still not too late. he's young and he has the talent: i hope he'll use it to continue his performance in the last couple of matches and prove himself once again to come back and destroy many a bowling career in the international arena.

Sham
March 31, 2005, 06:02 PM
Couldn't agree more. The few times I had seen him bat when he was in form, he looked really good and I have been a Kapali fan since. He hardly put a foot wrong and when you bat like that, its no fluke. He had good technique, played straight whenever possible, was very balanced on both his front and back foot, all in all a very elegant batsman. He could have and should have been our Laxman. I still don't understand how a batsman like that can lose the plot so badly and over such an extended period of time. If he was more like Sehwag than Laxman, then it would have been understandable! I still think there are probably one or two minor problems with his batting that are troubling him and he needs tosort them out. Sometimes its really that simple, a bit of adjustment and a player is back to his old self. Perhaps he should work with a specialist batting coach for a while and sort it out!

Fazal
March 31, 2005, 06:27 PM
May be some of his batting problem is more mental than technical. As far I remember, some of his recent outs (with national team) are due to his wrong/bad shot selection rather than due to good bowling.

Whatever it is, as long as he fixes it, show his form in local and team-a long enough and then come back to national team with new approach and produces, no one should have any complain with that. The problem in the past was, he came prematurely before gaining his form back 100%. That really didn't help him or the team or the selectors or the fans.

Edited on, March 31, 2005, 11:29 PM GMT, by Fazal.

pagol-chagol
March 31, 2005, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by razabq
Having watched Alok Kapali both bowl and bat (live and on TV), there's no doubt in my mind that his natural talent is for batting. Great legspinners like Benaud, Qadir, Warne and Gilla-monster (if he played for anyother country Stuey would have had 300+ wickets by now) have two things in common:

1) They can rip the ball reall good. Each do it in their own way. Warne uses his broud shoulder, McGill a serious wrist action.Qadir and Kaneria (who is so obviously modeled after Qadir) generate spin from a hustlin run-up that uncoils their hole body at the point or release. The superior amount of RPM is essential to beat the batsmen by drift, turn and bite.

2) They all have great control on their action. This control allows - in the case of Warne to be very accurate (ppl don't realize how metronomic he is, he's a spinner's version of McGrath), in the case of Qadir & Kaneria, the ability to be very deceptive, and in McGill's case - great variety (he has two types of googlies for e.g. - tho he will bowl the occasional dross)

With Kapali, I'm sure with practice he could get the 2nd part down, but he is not that big a spinner of the ball. In fact, I believe Ashraful is a bigger turner that him. Alok has a slim build and his action is a fairly relaxed one. His googly can be well disguised but like most average leggies he tends to bowl it a fraction short.

So my point? I do not think Kapali's future is as a leg spinner. Rather his natural gift of timing, elegance of strokeplay, and underrated power are just waiting to be allied to a proper temparement for Alok to become a world-class batsmen. The legspin, with more bowling, can become a nice feather in his cap, much like Katich's chinamans or Tendulkar's bowling.

Also if you think about it, our future test side - unless playing on a custom-built dustbowl - is more likely to feature only one frontline spinner. I am confident that spinner will be Enamul Jr. With 3 pacers, the way into the side will be as a batting all-rounder. As such I see Kapali fighting it out with Rana or Aftab in the near future and perhaps Syed Rassel further down.

A caveat: People may have noticed the absence of Kumble - this is because I see Kumble as more of a medium pacer than a spinner.

Edited on, March 31, 2005, 10:40 PM GMT, by razabq.

RAZABQ hypnotizing readers with his mesmerizing analysis.

Very nice.

I hope you name it like "analysis of Alok Kapali" and send it for front page.

And hence the Kapali fan club is rejuvinated and the nay-sayers run to the jungle...

DotBall
March 31, 2005, 08:11 PM
It was due from him..... now he can sleep for another 2 years..... :bird:

couger
March 31, 2005, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Beamer
Little bit too late..missed the tour party!

Yeah, he got mad and decided to show the selectors a thing or two.

Mahmood
March 31, 2005, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by razabq
Having watched Alok Kapali both bowl and bat (live and on TV), there's no doubt in my mind that his natural talent is for batting. Great legspinners like Benaud, Qadir, Warne and Gilla-monster (if he played for anyother country Stuey would have had 300+ wickets by now) have two things in common:

1) They can rip the ball reall good. Each do it in their own way. Warne uses his broud shoulder, McGill a serious wrist action.Qadir and Kaneria (who is so obviously modeled after Qadir) generate spin from a hustlin run-up that uncoils their hole body at the point or release. The superior amount of RPM is essential to beat the batsmen by drift, turn and bite.

2) They all have great control on their action. This control allows - in the case of Warne to be very accurate (ppl don't realize how metronomic he is, he's a spinner's version of McGrath), in the case of Qadir & Kaneria, the ability to be very deceptive, and in McGill's case - great variety (he has two types of googlies for e.g. - tho he will bowl the occasional dross)

With Kapali, I'm sure with practice he could get the 2nd part down, but he is not that big a spinner of the ball. In fact, I believe Ashraful is a bigger turner that him. Alok has a slim build and his action is a fairly relaxed one. His googly can be well disguised but like most average leggies he tends to bowl it a fraction short.

So my point? I do not think Kapali's future is as a leg spinner. Rather his natural gift of timing, elegance of strokeplay, and underrated power are just waiting to be allied to a proper temparement for Alok to become a world-class batsmen. The legspin, with more bowling, can become a nice feather in his cap, much like Katich's chinamans or Tendulkar's bowling.

Also if you think about it, our future test side - unless playing on a custom-built dustbowl - is more likely to feature only one frontline spinner. I am confident that spinner will be Enamul Jr. With 3 pacers, the way into the side will be as a batting all-rounder. As such I see Kapali fighting it out with Rana or Aftab in the near future and perhaps Syed Rassel further down.

A caveat: People may have noticed the absence of Kumble - this is because I see Kumble as more of a medium pacer than a spinner.

Edited on, March 31, 2005, 10:40 PM GMT, by razabq.

Well, everything you said makes sense. But the fact still remains, he made the national team as a bowler. Batting came in as bonus.

Now if he can again make a good bowler or not is a debate. To me, the only bowler to take a test hattric is not a fluke, its talent.

Batting wise, I am still waiting to see the so called most talented stylish BD batsman ever, "Rokon" perform. Then I will start waiting for Kapali.


To me, so far Ashraful is the only bowler who made it to the team as a bowler and became a successfull batsman. Kapali is still a bowler.

RazabQ
March 31, 2005, 08:45 PM
Here are Kapali's bowling stats from Tests, 1st Class, ODIs and List A ODs, followed by his hattrick sequence:
<pre>
O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Tests 180.5 15 697 6 116.16 3-3 0 0 180.8 3.85
1st Class 614.2 109 1771 68 26.04 7-33 3 1 54.2 2.88
ODIs 143.3 6 712 11 64.72 2-40 0 0 78.2 4.96
List A ODs 283.5 13 1279 30 42.63 4-23 2 0 56.7 4.50

106.5 Alok Kapali to Shabbir Ahmed, OUT: Gone! good flighted wrong one
pitches outside off, Shabbir drives uppishly straight to mid off
fielder in the hand of Mortaza
Pakistan 289/8, Partnership of 24
Shabbir Ahmed c Mashrafe Mortaza b Alok Kapali 8 (24b 1x4 0x6)
Yousuf Youhana 58* (153b 10x4) Alok Kapali 1.5-0-3-1
Kaneria is the new batsman
106.6 Alok Kapali to Danish Kaneria, OUT: flipper from kapali, pitches
outside off, Kaneria left it, hit on the back leg, but well
outside the line of the off stump, huge appeal for lbw, Tiffen
finger goes up
Pakistan 289/9, Partnership of 0
Danish Kaneria lbw b Alok Kapali 0 (1b 0x4 0x6)
Kapali on hattrick
108.1 Alok Kapali to Umar Gul, OUT: Hattrick!! flipper from Kapali, Gul
pads it away, ball hit the back pad in front of off stump, huge
appeal for lbw, Tiffen finger goes up, that's the hattrick for
Kapali
</pre>
Based on these numbers and the sequence of outs - with the 2nd one being def questionable, I would say his hattrick was flukey indeed. In fact most hattricks are flukey. IMHO only people like Akram, Saqlain or Vaas have ever indicated they possess the type of irrepressible talent and acumen to attach any air of non-randomness to hattricks.

Edited on, April 1, 2005, 2:22 AM GMT, by razabq.

cricket_pagol
March 31, 2005, 09:43 PM
I guess non of us know for sure why kapali started to play so poorly... he seemed to be so talented and reliable. I think we are making a mistake by trying to find technical flaws or mental weakness... the main issue is without any doubt "nari ghotito"! I don't have any proof but it is my gut feeling!!!!!!

RazabQ
March 31, 2005, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by cricket_pagol
the main issue is without any doubt "nari ghotito"! I don't have any proof but it is my gut feeling!!!!!!

taholey to deb dash bhaab dekha jeto - he always appears clean and dapper. Perhaps it's purush ghotito? ;)

al
March 31, 2005, 10:17 PM
good job kapali. If I were him, I would show some more stellar and mesmerizing performance to ground all the critics

thebest
March 31, 2005, 10:40 PM
So 2 good matches and Kapali lovers are on song. I do differ. nothing happen to change my mind. he is not still worthy for A team. First I want to see if it is a start of long good patch or just a glimpse of here and there.

shaoun
March 31, 2005, 11:17 PM
well kapali was in the team before mainly as a batsman. he first came as an all arounder just like ashraful but then they both became mainly batsman. kapali became a batsman who can bowl a bit. previous captains used him as part time bowler. it looks like he is becoming an all arounder. now he is becoming a bowler who can bat a bit. well its gonna be tough for him now because the type of player he is becoming we already have 2 of them like that. rana and aftab who are doing very well for themselves. personally i wouldnt read much into him taking 7 wickets in one match. a few days ago ashraful took 6 wickets too. but that doesnt mean anything. kapali needs to start over again. because he has already gotten enough chances and he failed over and over again. its time he sits back and gives other chances. he needs to be consistant to come back to the team.

Beamer
March 31, 2005, 11:26 PM
No doubt he is great to watch while he bats. I am a big fan of Kaps. Hope he can make it back sometime. This break is good for him. I was reading in Prothom-alo as they had an article about him. Seemed like he is content with the non-pick to the touring party and vowed to come back ..

fwullah
March 31, 2005, 11:30 PM
Alok's behavior seems to me to be very close to Al Shahriar - when you missed your chance, only then you turn out to perform well.

About the batsman-bowler thing, I think what Alok Kapali thinks of himself is the best judge of what he really is - a specialist batsman, a specialist leg spinner, or an all-rounder.

razabq, you are comparing Kapali's leg spin with specialist bowlers like Warne or Qadir or Kaneria, I want to compare Kapali to Paul Strang, Upul Chandana - who are all good leg spinners, as well as good match-winning batsman.

I believe that if we can marginalize Kapali's playing ability with Paul Strang, and Chandana, then we can somewhat put Kapali in 4th or 5th position, or among the top ten.

Just look at his performances over the years so far - when he has performed with the ball - all the times he has performed in ODIs except for the test-hattrick. And when he has performed with the bat - he has batted with around 100% strike rate - no mean feat. But does it mean that he will be playing in ODIs only? I think the answer is no. Because, what if we lose Enamul Junior through injury in the course of time? After Rafique's retirement, if Enamul Junior is not available, then we have to find somebody who will be able to play in tests, then who will it be? Rana, Rajjak has proven that they are no 'first class' - class yet in the recent Duleep trophy.

Here, Kapali comes in. He may not be nowhere as effective as Enamul Junior might be, but at least we'll be able to play a leg spinner in our side if need be.

dukha
March 31, 2005, 11:32 PM
haha kapali wicket nileo to aar jatiyo dall e jaiga hoibo nah , oi to jatiyo dall e oi ki ar eto over bowl kortey parbo..............:fanflag::fanflag::fanflag::fan flag::fanflag:

Ahmed_B
April 1, 2005, 01:08 AM
fwullah has a good point

Alok seems to be among those characters who giv their best shot only when they are 'Challeneged' or 'Ignored'. These kind of people tend to lose their motivation when their place is secured in any position and they give up efforts to improve themselves.

There must be something dangerously wrong in his 'Priority Structure' and for that reason he completely becomes reluctant to perform when his place is insured in the national team. :)


to razabq:

Alok's bowling hasn't been anything noticable in the past... but very recently he has started showing signs of improvement. In the series vs. NZ... when we were struggling for our dependable 4th/5th bowler... Alok did some good supportive job with the ball. Even though it was not extrememly 'world class' but it was effective, specially in terms of economy. And untill his batting comes back anywhere near to where it was in the past.. his bowling is the only thing he has to offer for us... unfortunately!

Edited on, April 1, 2005, 6:52 AM GMT, by crickethorizon.

dukha
April 1, 2005, 01:23 AM
haha "Jharey bok morey" ki bolen ? Betar batting ta bhalo koron dorker ..........last one day tey batting a 4 run korsey . Polash o to 8 wicket nilo . Jharey bok nah morley fakeerer keramoti barbo kemney ? :lol:

cricket_pagla
April 1, 2005, 02:02 AM
:bravo:
good job Kapali.. but it's not good enough!.. if he showed up with couple of century or one or more 7 wickets like yesterday then.. he'll get attention from selector...

Red Cherry
April 1, 2005, 11:05 AM
he is the player to watch out for in the future. just give him some time and let the pressure of expectation go off from his shoulders. he is determined and confident...he will surely make a come back

Shehwar
April 1, 2005, 01:27 PM
Its good to see him bowl to start with...the guy was always a bowler before he was converted into a batsman by our management...

Huda
April 1, 2005, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Sham
I think missing the England train might be the best thing that has happened to him. Gives him a long time to regroup and have a think about his game and what he has been doing wrong in the last year and a half. Surely, missing out on a tour like this will hurt because the chance to play at Lord's won't come again for several year. That should make him determined to work his way into the side by getting his form and consistency back!

spot on! the same can be said of hannan as well. play at the home of crikcet is the pinnacle and to prove ur self against the best. im sure kapali and hanna would have liked also to play against the aussies.

pagol-chagol
April 1, 2005, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by dukha
haha "Jharey bok morey" ki bolen ? Betar batting ta bhalo koron dorker ..........last one day tey batting a 4 run korsey . Polash o to 8 wicket nilo . Jharey bok nah morley fakeerer keramoti barbo kemney ? :lol:

Dude, this is not Carrom-board. There is a site nameed www.banglaCarrom.com for that. To get 7 wickets you need a Tsunami not Jhor.

Lets give credit when its due.

shaoun
April 2, 2005, 02:29 AM
its not big of a deal that he took 7 wickets and scored a half century in NCL. if he wants to be an all arounder then he needs to compete with aftab and rana whom are doing great job. nothing personal against kapali but i am happy to see him dropped because i was tired of seeing how many chances he got in the national team. i thought he should have been dropped long time ago. after the tour against pakistan which was in 2003 he didnt perform in the national team. he got more chances then anyone. if khaled mahmud does bad in one match everyone starts to say to get him out. and how many matches did kapali payed bad. you guys talking about his 7 wickets? he didnt do much with the bowl either. the bottom line is that the guy had no performance since august of 2003 which was against pakistan. almost 2 yrs later the selectors dropped him which is dissapointing. because eventhough at that time there wasnt no real replacement but i thought maybe tushar imran or rokon could of gotten a chance. i think its time that we start thinking about other player like shariar nafees golam rahman polash shahin hussein. and the type of player kapali is we already got that replacement like aftab rana. even ashraful and rajin saleh is good spinner as he is. nothing special about kapali. he needs to start from zero again. he needs to perform again consistantly for atleast another year before coming back to the team.

Mon
April 3, 2005, 05:57 AM
Congrats to Alok. Always believed he will bounce back. But I will surely advise against selecting him for the national team . He has needs a time out from the national team right now. I would love to see him playing in the WC. by that time will get 100% of his alrounding capabilites back. i hope :)