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TigerFan
April 8, 2005, 05:12 AM
I would make a comment, but first of all I don't know when Bashar is going to retire? That is very important thing to ask. If I say Bashar will retire after the 2007 world cup, then we can say that someone from our young side will be ready to take the responsibility insh allah then. So, who do u think guys can be the best substitute, given bashar retiring after the 2007 World Cup? Or just say, who is our substitute?

By the way, whoever will be our captain, the first condition, he has to perform in the field. Not like Durjoy, the captain we had before.

Edited on, April 8, 2005, 10:13 AM GMT, by TigerFan.

dukha
April 8, 2005, 05:16 AM
Miah bhaat pawna tumi 2 bosor porer ta eto agei chinta koro ken ? Jao ghumao giya ..Mr. Tigerfan . ki fan ta aar ghurey nah naki fan er logey jhuila morso ............ :D

TigerFan
April 8, 2005, 05:20 AM
I know that it doesn't matter what we discuss here to BCB. But hey, we like to discuss, so why not discuss. May be something will come up. We better start to think about our future from now on rather waiting for the future to us and see what that is.

Mahmood
April 8, 2005, 08:27 AM
Well, they made pilot the co-captain. So more likely now is, Pilot will again become the captain once Sumon steps down.

Edited on, April 8, 2005, 1:27 PM GMT, by Rajputro.

TigerFan
April 8, 2005, 08:51 AM
Nooooooooooooooooo.....I don't think Pilot is that good. Rajin failed horribly...don't we have any other options....Rafique gonna retire soon too..........

Locutus
April 8, 2005, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by TigerFan
Nooooooooooooooooo.....I don't think Pilot is that good. Rajin failed horribly...don't we have any other options....Rafique gonna retire soon too..........

What do you expect from Rajin? He became the captain of National Team when he was 20. He only played like 8?? to 10?? test matches before he became the captain. To be a good captain, you have to be experienced, you have to have the ability to lead a team and the players have to respect you. Thats why Habibul Basher is the best caiptain we ever had. Think about players like Khaled Mashud Pilot who have been around for quite long, taking order from Rajin Saleh. Does it sound good? If you were in Rajin's shoes, how would you feel?

I am sure with in few years Rajin Saleh will make a FINE CAPTAIN!!!

Edited on, April 8, 2005, 2:19 PM GMT, by Logen.

fwullah
April 8, 2005, 11:36 AM
Bhai, emnitei tension-e achi - Whatmore choila jaibo ki jaibo na, er moddhye abar Bashar?

AsifTheManRahman
April 8, 2005, 11:46 AM
haha...that's so uncharacteristic of you fwullah :)

anyways, bashar imo is and will be fit enough to play beyond the 2007 world cup. if he is replcaed, i'd like to see mashud in his place, both because of his experience and his cricketing brain. i understand that we'd gone through a really bad patch under him, but WC 2003 was an exception. there were several occassions when pilot showed hints of awesome talent as a captain.

pagol-chagol
April 8, 2005, 12:11 PM
Who will be our one down when Ashraful retires?

Who will be our openner when Golam Rahman retires?

Who will open our bowling when WasKuruni retires?

Who will be our captain when Enamul Jr. retires?

AsifTheManRahman
April 8, 2005, 12:27 PM
come on guys, don't you think this is a valid question? :)

i mean i wouldn't compare it to one of those is enamul better than my nani kinda threads...

pagol-chagol
April 8, 2005, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
come on guys, don't you think this is a valid question? :)

i mean i wouldn't compare it to one of those is enamul better than my nani kinda threads...

Sooooo much will change before he retires that you can't even tell who'll be in the starting 11 for sure. Mashrafee could get injured and retire. Younger and better players could displace Nafis, Rajin etc. Aftab could become the next Alok. Better SLAs could replace Enamul Jr.

Its way too early to talk about this.

Ahmed_B
April 8, 2005, 12:43 PM
Please bhai... Bangladesh team er Baba(Whatmore) r Ma(MacInnes) duijonai akhon mrittu sojjai ... Ma is already in coma.. r apni akhon suru korsen Boro Chele (Bashar) mara gele tokhon ki hobe sei kotha!
:duh:
Apni paren o bhai!... maf kora jaina?!

pagol-chagol
April 8, 2005, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by crickethorizon
Please bhai... Bangladesh team er Baba(Whatmore) r Ma(MacInnes) duijonai akhon mrittu sojjai ... Ma is already in coma.. r apni akhon suru korsen Boro Chele (Bashar) mara gele tokhon ki hobe sei kotha!
:duh:
Apni paren o bhai!... maf kora jaina?!


:P:(

Fazal
April 8, 2005, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by crickethorizon
.. r apni akhon suru korsen Boro Chele (Bashar) mara gele tokhon ki hobe.....!

Shobi Eteem Khanaee jabe

1234
April 8, 2005, 01:26 PM
It seems like none of u have any idea of what u guys r talking about. Habibul Bashar, Khaled Mashud, Rafiq, and Shujon, all of them are gonna ritire pretty soon after the 2007 World Cup. So there r only three youngster left to take their place: Enamul jr, Asraful and Nafis Iqbal. But its definitely going to be Enamul. Havn't u seen his performance as captain against ZimA? I think he was superb!

By the way, if Mushfiqur Rahman Babu returns to his form then Enamul might have to wait for a long time.

And for your information, Dave Whatmore is definitely leaving Bangladesh. Ar chinta koira luv nai! Tom Moody ar Greg Chappel, akjono jater coach na! India is going to make a new contract with Dave for sure.

pagol-chagol
April 8, 2005, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by 1234
It seems like none of u have any idea of what u guys r talking about. Habibul Bashar, Khaled Mashud, Rafiq, and Shujon, all of them are gonna ritire pretty soon after the 2007 World Cup. So there r only three youngster left to take their place: Enamul jr, Asraful and Nafis Iqbal. But its definitely going to be Enamul. Havn't u seen his performance as captain against ZimA? I think he was superb!

By the way, if Mushfiqur Rahman Babu returns to his form then Enamul might have to wait for a long time.

And for your information, Dave Whatmore is definitely leaving Bangladesh. Ar chinta koira luv nai! Tom Moody ar Greg Chappel, akjono jater coach na! India is going to make a new contract with Dave for sure.

I nominate this as the :
"poster who thinks he knows so much but knows so little" winner.:bird:

couger
April 8, 2005, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Logen
Originally posted by TigerFan
Nooooooooooooooooo.....I don't think Pilot is that good. Rajin failed horribly...don't we have any other options....Rafique gonna retire soon too..........

What do you expect from Rajin? He became the captain of National Team when he was 20. He only played like 8?? to 10?? test matches before he became the captain. To be a good captain, you have to be experienced, you have to have the ability to lead a team and the players have to respect you. Thats why Habibul Basher is the best caiptain we ever had. Think about players like Khaled Mashud Pilot who have been around for quite long, taking order from Rajin Saleh. Does it sound good? If you were in Rajin's shoes, how would you feel?

I am sure with in few years Rajin Saleh will make a FINE CAPTAIN!!!

Edited on, April 8, 2005, 2:19 PM GMT, by Logen.

totally agree with you. I think in time he'll prove to be a fine captain.

couger
April 8, 2005, 01:47 PM
I was thinking if there has to be a change before the World Cup then it has to be within this year. You want to give the new captain at least a year to assert himself.

roi
April 8, 2005, 01:52 PM
Its true that within a couple of yrs, we r going to loose some of ur key players like RAFIQ,SUJON,BASHER---->but still we have lot of options PILOT,RAJIN,ASH.
I guess, i mean belive RAJIN has that kind of ability to lead a national team.....he is bold and he like to take riskes......May be we can try PILOT for one more time.

>>>>>>>>(^o^)<<<<<<<<<<<<<

TigerFan
April 8, 2005, 02:43 PM
itz a guessng game guys, I didn't want you to predict the exact future. If you don't like my post, just stay away, that simple.

Anyway, I would like to see someone like Mashrafee leading our team. Because, SOMEONE like masri will definitely inspire his coplayers. If not masri, then Razzaq. I like his attitude. But, these two players has to go through a lot of haoa ar bayu. Anyway, some of you didn't understand the importance of my question. Habibul is 32, Rafiq is also I think32. So Maximum they'll play for may be 4 or 5 years. After that, we don't know what will happen, because we fans are like outsiders who is interested to some house like BCB. I am sure BCB has some plans for us that we don't know. Because you got to understand these players aren't going to stay 10 years like youngstars.

Edited on, April 8, 2005, 7:44 PM GMT, by TigerFan.

bourny3
April 8, 2005, 07:13 PM
Rajin Saleh or Nafis Iqbal.

cricket_pagla
April 8, 2005, 10:54 PM
I want to see our future captain from these 3's..
1. Enamul Jr.
2. Rana
3. A. Rajjak
:cool:

fwullah
April 9, 2005, 12:02 AM
Born: 8 February 1976, Rajshahi


Pilot isn't getting any younger. He will be 31 when the world cup 2007 ends.

Khaled Mashud (http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/PLAYERS/BDESH/K/KHALED_MASHUD_25002201/)

And @ the rate that Habibul Bashar is going now, if he doesn't get injured, he'll be the captain of the Bangladesh team until he is really out of form in Test Cricket or feels tired enough to think that he should retire (which seldom happens in history of Bangladesh cricket). He'll be 35 during 2007 (world cup) and so far, we still don't have a good enough replacement in sight for Habibul Bashar - not for the batsman, anyway.

Habibul Bashar (http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/PLAYERS/BDESH/H/HABIBUL_BASHAR_25002204/)

I think the only way that Bashar can lose his captaincy is either if we perform poorly in the world cup2007- not able to beat even the ICC Qualifier; or that we have so many good ODI players that we won't need our captain to be performing poorly in ODIs in the coming years (also, we have a suitable replacement for captain's position in 2 year's time) - which I think is unlikely at this moment.

rana
April 9, 2005, 12:06 AM
Pailot or Rajin

bdmoderator
April 9, 2005, 03:11 AM
May be Rajin Saleh or Nafees Iqbal.

sar2005
August 29, 2006, 06:58 AM
I think now you got your answer :)
Let's hope all the best for SN.

Ahmed_B
August 29, 2006, 07:11 AM
:)
When Nafis Iqbal entered internaional cricket... there were high words about his maturity all over the media.. and everybody were pretty damn sure that he is the perfect next captain for BD.

When Rajin Started showing his matured head.. everyone thought that there is no other option but him to be the next captain.

In all those two instances.. almost the whole of BC forum members were fairly convinced about these two. And now see what time does to everyone! So lets not jump right now again and try to declare that this time around we have 'the one' ! Lets wait and see where time takes us again. Just because MacInnes said that he can do it.. doesn't ensure that he will be able to keep his form as a player and also prosper as predicted to be the game-maker. Lets wait and see. :)

Rabz
August 29, 2006, 07:16 AM
he he..just a yr and half ago.. we didnt even know who Shahriar Nafees was..
i mean not to that extend..

and now he seems to be taking over from Bashar as the replacement captain soon..
just after a yr of his debut to national team..

good on him!!

sar2005
August 29, 2006, 07:17 AM
:)
When Nafis Iqbal entered internaional cricket... there were high words about his maturity all over the media.. and everybody were pretty damn sure that he is the perfect next captain for BD.

When Rajin Started showing his matured head.. everyone thought that there is no other option but him to be the next captain.

In all those two instances.. almost the whole of BC forum members were fairly convinced about these two. And now see what time does to everyone! So lets not jump right now again and try to declare that this time around we have 'the one' ! Lets wait and see where time takes us again. Just because MacInnes said that he can do it.. doesn't ensure that he will be able to keep his form as a player and also prosper as predicted to be the game-maker. Lets wait and see. :)

Very honest comment indeed! All we can do is to wait and see - of course with all the well wishes to him to succeed.

Ahmed_B
August 29, 2006, 07:20 AM
And yes... I like this SN guy pretty much.. and best wishes for him to go all the way. :)

kaisermatin
August 29, 2006, 07:31 AM
My vote is for Mashrafee Mortaza. He has the resilience, dynamism and courage.
Look how he saved us in Kenya. All hats off to Mashrafee. He could be the next Imran Khan of BD. SN is still boyish.

Tokyobreeze
August 29, 2006, 08:22 AM
It seems like none of u have any idea of what u guys r talking about. Habibul Bashar, Khaled Mashud, Rafiq, and Shujon, all of them are gonna ritire pretty soon after the 2007 World Cup.

By the way, if Mushfiqur Rahman Babu returns to his form then Enamul might have to wait for a long time.



Come on mate..According to your claim Shujon is still playing??:eek:

And, I don't really understand using which parameter u are comparing Mushfique Babu and Enamul!They are competing against different guys to enter the team as one is (probably already dead) all-rounder and another one is spinner.

:eek::eek::eek:

AsifTheManRahman
August 29, 2006, 10:33 AM
<a href="http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wisdencricketer/content/current/story/257584.html">A nice article on the art of captaincy</a>

Since we're discussing captains, I thought this would be an appropriate place to post this. I think there's a lot to learn from this piece - something that our own captains should look at. KM to engraji bujhe tujhe na, so there's no point in feeding him Mike Brearley's book; however, the likes of Bashar, SN (if he becomes the captain in the future) et al have a lot to learn from this article. Irrespective of what kind of a captain Hussain was, the amount of effort that he used to put in is examplary. It shows how captaining a side has a lot to do with managing people and a lot of thinking/studying off the field as opposed to making a couple of decisions on it and in the dressing room. Captaincy to r paani-bhaat na je khailam r hojom howe gelo. There's a lot of effort that has to be put in - and Hussain's article outlines exactly that.

Also:


It is because the captain is the one actually going out on the field with you that makes him the key figure here. Players have to respect the captain and feel that it is a case of "do as I do" not "do as I say". A coach cannot give you that. You cannot captain a side from the dressing room. You can spout as much as you like about having plans for four fast bowlers or Murali or Shane Warne but ultimately you must take your lead from someone who can go out and do it. That is what I respected so much about Gooch. I grew up seeing England thrashed by West Indies. My first tour was to the Caribbean and Gooch led by example. He took them on. I was the guy who ran on to the field with new gloves when he had his hand broken by Ezra Moseley in Trinidad and I saw the pain. It gave me a huge sense of pride that this guy was my captain leading from the front.


This could explain why Bashar makes a good captain albeit being haba-goba faced, although he doesn't do all that to that extent.

SMHasan
August 29, 2006, 10:49 AM
My vote is for Mashrafee Mortaza. He has the resilience, dynamism and courage.
Look how he saved us in Kenya. All hats off to Mashrafee. He could be the next Imran Khan of BD. SN is still boyish.

Mash still is a child who needs to grow up.

Rabz
August 29, 2006, 11:07 AM
a very well written article. it does explain the whole situation straight from the horse's mouth. look at other examples, Whatmore-Ranatunga, Buchanan-Ponting are two i can instantly think off.

Bashar has a commanding role in the team, but yes, it seems he is also too nice and smiley all the time. and he has problem of thinking on his own feet sometimes.

but still, he is the best captain and the best batsmen we ever got.

best luck to SN now. see what happens.

Mahir
August 31, 2006, 10:26 PM
It should be pretty clear by now as for whom BCB has in mind to groom as the next captain to lead Bangladesh after Bashar's tenure is over. Also, Richard Mac said it himself quite some time ago. And I personally can't wait to see the rise of Nafees the skipper!