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oracle
April 8, 2005, 07:50 AM
Sad to say but this may be of interest to BAngladesh too. As Dave is already in contention. :(

Cricinfo (http://usa.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2005/APR/225429_WAC_08APR2005.html)

Edited on, April 8, 2005, 12:50 PM GMT, by oracle.

oracle
April 8, 2005, 07:57 AM
And from South Africa, here are the candidates(including all mentioned above ) that were considered:
Excerpts of profile and write up pasted below:
Star-SA-"Cricket's coaching conundrum" (http://www.thestar.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=2443313&fSectionId=149&fSetId=505)

Ray Jennings - Awaited the the support of the SA side's senior players, which he apparently got. Then needed the all clear from the missus before applying. Presumably he received that too.

Locally many believe he deserves the job on a permanent basis after adding something of a steely resolve to the side during the England series.

Always outspoken - he has already been wrapped over the knuckles by the UCB's CEO - he has said he wants greater power in terms of selection if the side is to be truly effective.

There's a feeling within UCB circles that his stance on transformation is not in line with that of the organisation, which might jeopardise his chances.

Jimmy Cook - Would be something of a surprise, but in his favour is the fact that he is very close to the captain (although that didn't really work for Eric Simons) and aided his development while Graeme Smith was at KES.

First class coaching experience is somewhat limited but for a three-year stint at the English county Hampshire. He has worked with the Highveld Strikers amateur unit this season and in fact held the position of Director of Coaching at the UCB in 2000 before going to Hampshire.

Having had a few months of Jennings though, Cook may be seen as too soft a character. His level-headedness would definitely count in his favour though.

Duncan Fletcher - The lugubrious England coach strongly dismissed claims that he would coach South Africa, yet the former Zimbabwean international has failed to shake off continued rumours about his coaching future.

He has some deep roots in South Africa though, and still owns a house in the Western Cape and he has also played an extensive role in the growth of Jacques Kallis and Herschelle Gibbs.

Fletcher has been widely praised for turning around and toughening up the England team to such an extent that this week Ian Botham said it was their best chance to win the Ashes in 10 years.

Fletcher commands respect from his players, but displays utter faith in them and will never criticise them publicly.

Peter Kirsten - Something of an unknown factor, whose impact on Western Province has been somewhat limited.

Nevertheless has a great understanding of domestic cricket and he has nurtured some fine talent in the Western Cape, most notably JP Duminy and Andrew Puttick.

Understands the importance of transformation to the country, something that gives him a head start over the overseas candidates.

Has bizzarely been linked to the Scottish coaching post (yes, for that country's cricket team) and is believed to be on a shortlist of four for that position.

Edited on, April 8, 2005, 12:59 PM GMT, by oracle.

couger
April 8, 2005, 01:23 PM
From the list from Cricinfo I'd pick Marsh (if dav leaves that is) before anyone. We need a no nonsense kick-butt coach like him.

feisal
April 8, 2005, 01:28 PM
Couger,

rod march was in charge of the aussie academy and also ran the parrallal utfit for England. Not sure, he was a Coach so to say. BKSP, i believe, is NOT solely for cricket..

so where do u put him?? saying that, I also think he can still be good enough to be a coach.

TigerFan
April 8, 2005, 02:52 PM
remember guys, I asked last year or so about who's gonna coach after whatmore is gone, now it seems whatmore has a bigger fish to fry so who bothers about bangladesh. Anyway, whatmore hasn't said anything clearly, but we may have to face the hard reality.

TigerFan
April 8, 2005, 02:58 PM
I like this guy:

Greg Chappell
South Australia 1999-2004

There are few minds in cricket today as lucid and as inquisitive as that of Chappell, the former Australia batsman, selector, and coach of South Australia. Like all the best modern-day coaches, Chappell understands cricket not just as a specific set of pure skills to be learned and applied but as part of a larger totality, requiring knowledge of matters like body structure, different kinds of learning methods and motivational practices, and issues of diet and nutrition.

Author of a recent book called Cricket: The Making of Champions, in which he expounds upon such concepts as unstructured learning environments, and the unweighting and coiling of the body while playing, Chappell has a deep insight into the fundamentals of the game. There is no doubting his considerable technical understanding and tactical awareness, which comes, as he says on his website, from a lifetime spent in trying to understand cricket's complexities.

Chappell and the Indian team potentially make a good fit. He already shares a good rapport with Sourav Ganguly, having helped him out with his batting before India's last tour of Australia. Chappell also has some experience working in the subcontinent, having spent some time last year as a consultant with the National Cricket Academy in Pakistan. He is hugely respected everywhere, and the younger players will value his ability to break down a problem helpfully. But Chappell will be understandably wary of embarking on negotiations with the BCCI, having done it all once before in 2000, when he and Wright were in contention for the job and he was pipped to the post by Wright.

What they say "Greg Chappell's record and his cricket knowledge is second to none. He was probably the best player of his era and his communication with players at international level is exceptional. And that would make him a really good coach with the Indians." - Darren Lehmann (played at South Australia under Chappell)

What he says "India is potentially the next powerhouse of world cricket. Coaching them would be one of the most exciting opportunities in cricket."

TigerFan
April 8, 2005, 03:05 PM
Or this guy for bangladesh:

John Buchanan Queensland 1994-99; Middlesex 1998; Australia, 1999-present

Tall, stooping, and professorial, Buchanan is something of an oddball amongst coaches, capable of quoting Sun Tzu to make a point or declaring that his vision for the future is an Australian team in which each player is ambidextrous. But Buchanan's record speaks for itself: he made his name by taking Queensland to their first ever victory in the Sheffield Shield the first year he coached them, and an Australian team that were already the best in the world have ruthlessly dominated all opposition under his charge.

Buchanan's reputation as a visionary is all the more remarkable because he had no real cricketing pedigree to speak of, unlike, say, a Bob Simpson. Buchanan had a short and unremarkable first-class career, during which his propensity for experiments with different kinds of batting and bowling techniques was sometimes thought to be so far out that he earned the sobriquet 'Pluto'. But his persistence in, to use one of his pet phrases, "looking outside the square" led to him bringing up a host of innovative ideas as coach, including borrowing techniques and practices from other sports and encouraging players to grow as individuals in ways not related to cricket.

A great proponent of the use of advanced technology in analysing and breaking down cricket technique and match play, Buchanan essentially works as a facilitator, setting down new ideas and challenges before one of the most capable and motivated teams ever to appear on a cricket field.

However, even though his contract is due to lapse soon, the prospect of Buchanan coaching India is unlikely, and perhaps India are not yet at a stage where they could take advantage of his unique talents. Still, it is intriguing to imagine him sitting at the same table as the Indian team.

What they say "John Buchanan's greatest strength is his vision. He looks outside the square and encourages his players to do the same in their quest for excellence and constant improvement. He also has the ability to surround himself with excellent specialised support staff who ensure no stone is left unturned in the team's preparation." - Justin Langer

What he says "I would not like to be included on the list as I am contracted to Australia till the end of October this year. However, I might add that apart from the relevant qualifications of the person, the next coach after John Wright must be able to clearly enunciate a vision for Indian cricket to build upon the work begun by him; he must be given the full support of the board and the captain to structure the development of the 'elite' elements of Indian cricket, and must put in place coaching pathways to enable Indian coaches to take the reins at the earliest possible time."

couger
April 8, 2005, 03:28 PM
I don't think Buchanan or Chappell are the right kind of coach for Bangladesh. These guys are more suitable for managing players and strategizing, whereas Whatmore or Marsh are the type who can build/develope.