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AsifTheManRahman
April 20, 2005, 04:04 PM
<a href = "http://content.cricinfo.com/kenya/content/story/207042.html">Kenya back in business</a>

Looks like they're ready to start off from where the senior players left off a couple of months ago. Most of the big guns are back, except for Ravindu Shah, who's sitting out due to a knee injury. There are a few other national players who will be back pretty soon (so it looks like).

Edited on, April 20, 2005, 9:05 PM GMT, by AsifTheManRahman.

Akib
April 20, 2005, 04:22 PM
This is very good news. The Kenyan team was messed up with controversy like Zimbabwe, only Kenya got their team back together with out the loss of major players. Good JOB.....

I wish them all the luck in their next match.

Special 1
April 20, 2005, 05:15 PM
BRing em on!!!

couger
April 20, 2005, 11:59 PM
Good for Kenya, I wish them luck.

Shehwar
April 21, 2005, 03:07 AM
Yeah...good to see Kenya sort out their problems....They are naturally gifted players and athletes...International Cricket needs a good strong Kenyan side......Hope they start afresh from where they left off in the last World Cup.....cheers....

babubangla
April 22, 2005, 01:17 AM
Kenya still has ODI Status...right?
If so, we should invite them for a ODI series in Bangladesh. Kenya beat Bangladesh almost all the time. I want to see where Bangladesh stands compare to Kenya. After all those Test and ODI experience, If we see Bangladesh still loosing to them....it will be very painful.

Here is the Present Bangladesh Stat Against Kenya:

ODI= 7
Kenya won = 6
Bangladesh won = 1

ICC Match = 4
Kenya won = 1
Bangladesh won = 3

Rubu
April 22, 2005, 09:56 PM
with odumbe still banned (or was his banned released?) kenya is not what it was in the last world cup. steave tickolo has to give kenya now 200%. in this situation i really believe we are past the kenya age. i believe we'll win 4 out of 5 matches against them.

the biggest problem with kenya is, its not creating new players. they need to build a bangladesh like (!!!) infrastructure to create new players if they want to stay in the race.

fwullah
April 22, 2005, 10:52 PM
the biggest problem with kenya is, its not creating new players. they need to build a bangladesh like (!!!) infrastructure to create new players if they want to stay in the race.


Their current crop of experienced players are still young enough (around 30 years old on average) to play for 5 to 8 more years, and they always seem to produce those very few but very quality players by the time every world cup occurs: example, Collins Obuya (WC 2003), Maurice Ouma now (may be WC 2007?).

Akib
April 23, 2005, 08:51 AM
Well Kenya has made a triumphant return. Tikolo scored 149 as Kenya scored a massive 319 in the first game of the ICC Intercontinental Cup 2005. Then they got Uganda stuck at 37 for 3.

chyicarus
April 23, 2005, 02:53 PM
I think Kenya has better talent than Bangladesh. Their problems includes finances, lack of ogranization, the lack of exposure and also support from other Test playing countries.
we have had enough support from our neighbors and the ACC was a strong support for us to get into Test cricket. I think hadn't it been for their support, we would still have had played only ODIs.

Akib
April 23, 2005, 07:05 PM
Well Uganda started a fight but Kenya still has a healty lead. After Kenya got Uganda all out for 168, they started to build a larger lead. But it did not go well as Kenya fell to 85 for 6 with Tikolo finishing with 54 adding to his 149 from the first innings. Currently Kenya has a lead of 236.

fwullah
April 24, 2005, 12:47 PM
think Kenya has better talent than Bangladesh.


Sorry, I can't agree with that. But what I will agree to, is that both Kenya and Bangladesh have the similar talent level, when one is getting enough opportunities now and the other is not gettting any kind of support from all the other test playing nations. And this, too, has a logical reason. Bangladesh has crowd support, government support, Kenya has got neither of them.

fwullah
April 24, 2005, 12:53 PM
lack of exposure and also support from other Test playing countries.


Bangladesh had support from the other Asian countries because we had performance to show for it.

Just think of the time of the 2003 world cup. Did any of the 3 Asian giants support us during that time? The answer is no. But now, after we played some very competitive matches in Pakistan under Whatmore, and then beating India national team (minus Tendulkar, Dravid, Harbhajan, Pathan) in an ODI - and now we've got some of India's support.

Why, Kenya also have been getting India's support for beating India 3 to 4 times in the last decade. But why don't the kenyans get support from Pakistan? The answer is plain and simple: Kenya could not beat Pakistan, even though a few matches may have been close ones.

In short, we had to earn the support from our neighbours, it wasn't just given to us, for free.

Trueblue
April 24, 2005, 01:26 PM
India A and Pakistan A toured Kenya last August and played in a one-day triangular tournament (http://uk.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004/OTHERS/KTT/KTT_AUG2004_SCHEDULE.html) and Kenya also played Pakistan A in a three day gane and India A in two three day games. So Kenya had 15 days of good class cricket on home soil and probably at the right level to develop the side.

How do I know? Scotland lost their Indian overseas pro because of it.

Akib
April 24, 2005, 02:58 PM
Well Kenya (321 and 116) win the first match of the ICC Intercontinental Cup by defeating Uganda (168 and 108) by 161 runs

Tehsin
April 24, 2005, 11:33 PM
Poor performance from Kenya against a poor ICC associate team. Apart from Tikolo, no one really put up a good fight in the batting department. Allout for 116 ? The coach must be worried. Their bowling put Uganda on the backfoot and won the match for them.

Tikolo is an awesome player. The best among the ICC teams and most of our bats. If he hadn't played this match, Kenya would have lost.

As far as Kenya v Bangladesh matches. The last times we played them, we WON. If we play them now, we will win. There was a period of time when the Bangladesh team was not at it's best. We neither had the pace, nor the spin to control the rampaging Kenyan batsmen. Our batting was in shambles (not that it's great now) and always had better things to do at the pavilion. Now, we have a young team who are maturing and have had some success against far better teams. That kind of experience does wonders to your game and self belief.

vv_sunil
April 24, 2005, 11:48 PM
good luck kenya

Tehsin
April 25, 2005, 12:14 AM
Some of the other players that always/may bother BD, Ravindu Shah, Thomas Odoyo, Martin Suji, Onyango. Most of the players that played against uganda will prolly feature again in 2007. Let's not forget that kenya brought back Asif Karim (I think) in the last world cup because of their player shortage. Don't be surprised if Tikolo, Odumbe or Suji still play for Kenya in 2011. :)

James90
April 25, 2005, 04:04 AM
Onyango isn't good. I looked at his stats before and he'd been absolutely woeful before that 6for. I wouldn't rate anything done against Uganda. It is true though that Kenya will be a much stronger in the batting when Ravindu Shah returns.

akabir77
April 25, 2005, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by tehsin

As far as Kenya v Bangladesh matches. The last times we played them, we WON.

I think last time we played them in WC2003, they beat us in SA.... WHere pilot droppped three sitters and a runout chance and they went ot the semies....

So we need to have a series against them...

babubangla
April 25, 2005, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by tehsin
As far as Kenya v Bangladesh matches. The last times we played them, we WON.

You Wish !!!
They got us all out 185.

AsifTheManRahman
April 25, 2005, 09:19 AM
i wouldn't be too disheartened by this performance. maybe it was the lack of international cricket for so long that did them this time. they might still come back with a bang once they've settled in. :)

Tehsin
April 25, 2005, 10:33 PM
I meant to say, last time we played Kenya in Kenya, We won. score from cricinfo (http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/2000-01/OD_TOURNEYS/ICCKO/SCORECARDS/WARMUPS/BDESH_KENYA_28SEP2000.html)
We completely blew it in the 2003 world cup. We had a lousy coach, the team almost lost the match to a team like Canada and we played a horrible game against the Kenyans.

Our current side is far more balanced then the WC team and has a better leader in Sumon. Let's not forget that Mr. Mohsin Kamal is in no way qualified to coach a national side. Heck, I wouldn't even hire him to coach a first class side.