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Originally Posted by Huda
You are. Have you seen pitches in Kandy, they are dust bowls where the ball turns square on a regular basis. If you think English pitches do, then you are in cuckoo land. You have chosen odd instances where the ball will turn when the pitche wears on days 4, or the 2nd innings. If you ask any English fan they will tell you about English pitches and Swann's assets. He does not relie on turn to get wickets, if you watch the MAJORITY of his wickets they are not due from huge spin. I can give you many of his wickets that have come from varying flight and pace, just cricinfo it yourself
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english pitches have been turning a lot lately...a lot more that the typical subcontinent pitch where even 5th day 400 runs can be scored with ease. they are making good sporting pitches. seam and swing available to pacers and turn and bounce available to spinners.
bounce is very under-estimated IMO for spinners. a nice bouncy track can make spinners that much more deadly.