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Old March 2, 2011, 02:48 PM
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Default Debunking myth: Today's Ireland win is good or bad for us?

First off, I have kept India, South Africa and Netherland out of this equation, main to make things simple. In all likely hood, the first two will take up the 1st and second spot, and the 3rd one 7th. They need not to be in the equation. The other two places will be fought by BD, WI, EN and IR, in no particular order.

Secondly, if we beat both Eng and WI, no need for any calculation. Similarly, if we lose both, no calculation is needed, we are out.

Our advantage vs disadvantage of Ireland beating England today only comes into play if we beat WI but lose to Eng. As the table below shows, if we beat Eng and lose to WI, this game does not matter.

In the only case when it matters (we beat WI but lose to England), we have advantage in two scenerioes and disadvantage in two other. Of this scenerio, the disadvantage comes only if IRE beats WI.

To me, it is still more likely that WI will beat IR. If that happens, today's gave is good for us.

Bottom line: it is wrong to say that today's game was good or bad for us. It is all based on whether WI can beat IRE or not. But most importantly, if we cannot beat one of the two, nothing matters.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS DONE VERY QUICKLY, AND THERE COULD BE ERRORS. PLEASE POINT THEM OUT IF YOU FIND ANY AND I'LL FIX THEM.

BD Beats WI, WI beats IR, ENG beats WI, Eng beats BDBD Beats ENG, WI beats IR, ENG beats WI, WI beats BD
TeamMatchWinLoseTiePointTeamMatchWinLoseTiePoint
India650111India650111
South Africa651010South Africa651010
England63217Bangladesh63306
Bangladesh63306West Indies63306
West Indies62404England62315
Ireland62404Ireland62404
Netherlands60600Netherlands60600
No need for NRR. We go as 4th team (Advantage)(Indeferent)
BD Beats WI, IR beats WI, ENG beats WI, Eng beats BDBD Beats ENG, IR beats WI, ENG beats WI, WI beats BD
TeamMatchWinLoseTiePointTeamMatchWinLoseTiePoint
India650111India650111
South Africa651010South Africa651010
England63217Bangladesh63306
Bangladesh63306Ireland63306
Ireland63306England62315
West Indies61502West Indies62404
Netherlands60600Netherlands60600
Need NRR, against IRE (Disadvantage)Indeferent
BD Beats WI, WI beats IR, WI beats ENG, Eng beats BDBD Beats ENG, WI beats IR, WI beats ENG, WI beats BD
TeamMatchWinLoseTiePointTeamMatchWinLoseTiePoint
India650111India650111
South Africa651010South Africa651010
Bangladesh63306West Indies64208
West Indies63306Bangladesh63306
England62315Ireland62404
Ireland62404England61413
Netherlands60600Netherlands60600
No need for NRR. We go as 4th team (Advantage)Indeferent
BD Beats WI, IR beats WI, WI beats ENG, Eng beats BDBD Beats ENG, IR beats WI, WI beats ENG, WI beats BD
TeamMatchWinLoseTiePointTeamMatchWinLoseTiePoint
India650111India650111
South Africa651010South Africa651010
England63217Bangladesh63306
Bangladesh63306Ireland63306
Ireland63306West Indies63306
West Indies62404England62315
Netherlands60600Netherlands60600
Need NRR, against IRE (Disadvantage)Again, indeferent. Can be good or bad for us
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