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Old October 30, 2004, 12:13 AM
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James, can you please clear it out for everyone what the South Sydney first or second grade really mean ? This may help you a bit to find the right answer:

The main domestic league (apart from the national league) is the Dhaka premier league, then there is the second division and the third division. There are also similar leagues in the other districts (Chittagong, Rajshahi, etc.). So, what is the South Sydey grade cricket like ? Is it Dhaka Premier or first division or is it more like Rajshahi second division ?

Here's a repost from another thread:
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About bringing back Bulbul and nannu. This isn't 2000 or 2002.

Take a look at this, How is bulbul any better then Alok or Hannan. Some of you probably asked for his head when his bat failed match after match:


Name Mat I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St

Alok Kapali 15 30 1 533 85 18.37 49.44 - 2 5 -
Al Sahariar 15 30 0 683 71 22.76 51.39 - 4 10 -
Aminul Islam 13 26 1 530 145 21.20 34.86 1 2 5 -
Habibul Bashar 30 59 1 2079 113 35.84 58.87 3 17 16 -
Hannan Sarkar 17 33 0 662 76 20.06 46.65 - 5 7 -
Khaled Mahmud 12 23 1 266 45 12.09 58.46 - - 2 -
Khaled Mashud 28 53 7 898 103* 19.52 32.80 1 2 50 5
Manjural Islam Rana 4 7 1 164 39 27.33 32.41 - - 2 -
Mehrab Hossain 9 18 0 241 71 13.38 32.65 - 1 6 -
Mohammad Ashraful 20 39 1 891 114 23.44 38.57 1 5 3 -
Mohammad Rafique 13 25 4 399 111 19.00 57.91 1 - 4 -
Mushfiqur Rahman 8 15 2 191 46* 14.69 28.29 - - 3 -
Nafis Iqbal 1 2 0 50 49 25.00 38.75 - - 1 -
Rajin Saleh 10 19 0 513 60 27.00 34.77 - 2 9 -
Sanwar Hossain 9 18 0 345 49 19.16 46.43 - - 1 -
Shahriar Hossain 3 5 0 99 48 19.80 41.59 - - - 1



According to cricinfo, Aminul DOB is 2/2/1968, that puts him at 36 years and 9 month. That is offcourse if his actual DOB hasn't been doctored unlike the others. A 37 years of age, a player who is playing in a league which is almost like the second division cricket in Sylhet or Chittagong can't be our answer, can he ?

Let's look at ALL of his innings. Let's see if there is any UNCANNY similarity with either Alok or Hannan:


Runs Pos Dismissal I R Match

145 4 caught 1 L Only Test v Ind in BD 2000/01 at Dhaka [1512]
6 4 lbw 3
84 4 caught wk 1 L 1st Test v Zim in Zim 2000/01 at Bulawayo [1543]
11 4 caught 3
12 4 caught 1 L 2nd Test v Zim in Zim 2000/01 at Harare [1545]
2 4 lbw 3
10 4 bowled 1 L 1st Match v Pak in Pak 2001/02 at Multan [1560]
18 4 caught 3
6 4 caught wk 1 L 2nd Match v SL in SL 2001/02 at Colombo (SSC) [1561]
56 4 bowled 3
12 4 lbw 1 D 1st Test v Zim in BD 2001/02 at Dhaka [1566]
6* 4 not out 3
21 4 caught 2 L 2nd Test v Zim in BD 2001/02 at Chittagong [1568]
1 4 caught 3
14 4 caught wk 2 L 1st Test v NZ in NZ 2001/02 at Hamilton [1577]
0 4 bowled 3
42 4 caught 1 L 2nd Test v NZ in NZ 2001/02 at Wellington [1579]
4 4 caught 3
25 5 lbw 1 L 1st Test v Pak in BD 2001/02 at Dhaka [1584]
11 4 lbw 3
25 5 caught 1 L 2nd Test v Pak in BD 2001/02 at Chittagong [1586]
2 4 bowled 3
0 6 caught 1 L 1st Test v SL in SL 2002 at Colombo (PSS) [1609]
0 6 caught 3
5 5 lbw 1 L 1st Test v WI in BD 2002/03 at Dhaka [1630]
12 5 lbw 3


Last five innings yeilded 19 runs, any wonder why this aging cricketer was dropped from the team ? If I was a selector and my oldest player was failing like this and my team was relatively young - i'd rather invest in future. Sure, there will be early hiccups, these players would take some time to grow into their roles but in 3/4 years time, they would get a world of experience and will be valuable assets to the team.

Just a break down:
Innings played: 26
Scores under 10 (double digits): 11 times, THAT's 11 out of 26.
Scores under 20: 19 OUT OF 26. We do have very selective memory, we hear the name Bulbul and the only thing we remember is that 145 in the debut test. In reality, more than 1/3 rd of his runs came from only 2 innings and 62% (327/530) of his runs came from four innings.


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Nannu is one of my alltime favorite BD players.Unfortunately, Cricinfo shows his current age at 39 years and 30 days. He hasn't played competitive crcket in two years and here's his ODi average, the last match was played in the 99 world cup:


Mat I NO Runs HS1 HS2 HS3 Ave 100 50 0

overall 27 26 2 453 68* 53* 45 18.87 0 2 3


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I hope this puts a stop to the repeated calls for the return of these players. No time to look back, all we have now is the future.

Edited on, October 25, 2004, 8:56 AM GMT, by tehsin.

Edited on, October 30, 2004, 5:17 AM GMT, by tehsin.
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