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Old November 27, 2012, 03:00 PM
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You are very harsh and kinda short minded.

The Banglawash came without either Tamim or Mash being available!

The defending 174 at Mirpur against NZ (when Rubel bowled that reverse swing yorker we had worked on) was the lowest ever score defended by BD. This was a complete turning point in belief for the team. It is belief and confidence that lifts an emotional bunch of players like BD. You saw how the Asia Cup results were uplifted by a wonderful BPL previously.
"Banglawash" was one of the high moment of Bdesh cricket, I wasn't trying to deny that. I was talking about the World Cup. So let's...

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"Barely" beating England was the biggest thrill for me and JF personally. We worked our **** off to get the guys up for that match.. and it was a 'must win' game. Had BD lost to England the WC would have all been over. But they never gave up. The lads pulled off a hard fought win. Ryad was amazing and Shafiul just extraordinary. Both of those matches showed guts and determination that are currently missing from the team! The Ireland win was also really hard fought. Again brilliant defending of a modest total at Mirpur on a good pitch. Ireland beat England in our group remember so were a fine team.
And this is what I was arguing against. You're always making it sound like team was on super high slope during the World Cup, and everything went downhill from the moment you guys left. Yet I don't recall anything special from that WC other than that "barely" win against Eng and 2 against Associates (not trying to undermine those wins, but it is what it is). If the team was indeed as good as you make it out to be then how come I can't see the difference between that WC team and the current team? You guys did lift up the team and the fans. You and JF esp made the team spirited, something JS wasn't able to do. You guys did insert self belief and pride in those players. No one can deny that, we all witnessed it during Banglawash. But it wasn't there in the World Cup. And that is my main point.

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The WI and SA matches were a complete debacle with the bat. But this is BD, what do you expect sometimes?
So that's your explanation? That it's BD? That's a bit demeaning thing to say, coming from an ex coach, dont you think? But then I thought that team was ...

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People can sit behind a computer and make comments, but the reality is coaches have to actually work with the players and try to get the best from them in very testing circumstances.
I wasn't doubting the coaches ability, skills or their works, no one here questions your or JF's class, I'm just talking about the results.

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Why that era is celebrated is that the results were rare. People had something GENUINE to cheer about. It wasn't all about Shakib or Tamim. It was about Razzak, Ryad, Rubel, Shafiul, Naeem, Shuvo and others. People stepped up and made contributions.
Yet, when it mattered the most, all the players choked.

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You can choose to be negative about it bhai. That is your choice. But maybe this is all about YOUR expectations that don't match the reality of the team's ability.
I'm not looking at the negative. Again, I'm strictly looking at the end result of the mission; World Cup. The whole thing was set up for the world cup. BCB had cancelled test matches, and hired high class, specialist coaches and put together that army for mission World Cup. And how was the mission?

Now if you are saying fans' expectations were too high then I just have to ask you, did the team meet YOUR expectations during that main mission? If yes, then I have nothing farther to say.
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