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Old January 26, 2009, 06:03 PM
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Default If picked, will IPL be a friend or foe of BD cricket development?

I know this subject matter may be premature or a waste of time depending on the outcome of the much awaited IPL auction for our beloved BD players but it’s begging to be discussed. The answer of the afore-mentioned question should very much dictate whether or not we should welcome or reject IPL auction.

I know that the much financially starved cricketers of Bangladesh deserve every penny they can get from a foreign franchise such as IPL. But the question is, will this huge sum of money be good for the development of Bangladesh cricket?


If Shakib or any one from BD gets picked for a huge chunk of change then

Pros:


  • IPL contract is a huge reward for their hard work and when rewarded everyone tries to do even better.
  • If one gets rewarded for his hard work then the rest will only try to play catch up which will create competition and better performance.
  • Everyone also seems to do better when a role model is found, Shakib’s inclusion in IPL could be a catalyst as such.
  • IPL contract may also result in a lack of interest for ICL amongst other BD players stopping the exodus. (which is a wrong label)
  • The exposure to such competition will teach our developing cricketers’ the skill, technique and the mental strength from the high-pressure that such short form of cricket has to offer.

Cons:


  • The huge pay day can also be detrimental to this young minds who may get the “king of the world” feeling and become complacent.
  • Their commitment to IPL could be short but it could very well take the responsibility or commintment away from the national matches where pride and glory form most part of their paycheck.
  • They may not even do their 100% on the field trying to keep them injury free to keep the IPL contract intact and paycheck coming.
  • (depending on how many) Their absence from the NCL due to their involvement in IPL may have an adverse effect to the overall quality of the league and thus loosing interest for the local spectators and clubs.

So I guess the answer to my own question is rather leaning toward the positive outcome of the IPL but some of you may argue and we are all ears to hear them. Please bring it on………..
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Old January 26, 2009, 06:15 PM
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There are definetly both pros and cons but if the boys can earn success and still have national duty in mind it should be a good thing
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Old January 26, 2009, 07:43 PM
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i reckon it will be a good thing because if they get picked up by an IPL team then if they want to keep their spot and if they want to keep their value up then they're going to have to perform. plus they'll be around some really good cricketers which imo can only help them develop better.
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Old January 26, 2009, 07:48 PM
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Old January 26, 2009, 08:08 PM
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BCB will think it as a foe but its really a friend becuase IPL will improve our players.
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Old January 26, 2009, 09:59 PM
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BCB will think it as a foe but its really a friend becuase IPL will improve our players.
Disagree with that part, if they think it is a foe then why didnt they stoip razzak from joining IPL ? anyways IMHO it is a friend as it will give a better exposure to our players and they will be around good cricketers form whom they can get a few tips or two .
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Old January 26, 2009, 10:12 PM
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Disagree with that part, if they think it is a foe then why didnt they stoip razzak from joining IPL ? anyways IMHO it is a friend as it will give a better exposure to our players and they will be around good cricketers form whom they can get a few tips or two .
maybe because he was a key player.But why did they ban the ICL players then?
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Old January 26, 2009, 10:52 PM
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maybe because he was a key player.But why did they ban the ICL players then?
Uhh....because it was a forbidden league?
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Old January 27, 2009, 06:25 PM
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maybe because he was a key player.But why did they ban the ICL players then?
ICL isnt IPL , they are two different leagues. Dont you know about this ? lol
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Old January 27, 2009, 06:28 PM
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ICL isnt IPL , they are two different leagues. Dont you know about this ? lol
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Old January 26, 2009, 10:51 PM
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Disagree with that part, if they think it is a foe then why didnt they stoip razzak from joining IPL ? anyways IMHO it is a friend as it will give a better exposure to our players and they will be around good cricketers form whom they can get a few tips or two .
I don't see what 'tips' they're going to get. Tips on playing twenty20 cricket? Absolutely useless.
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Old January 27, 2009, 06:24 PM
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I don't see what 'tips' they're going to get. Tips on playing twenty20 cricket? Absolutely useless.
No not only in T20 but the game itself.
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Old January 27, 2009, 08:08 PM
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No not only in T20 but the game itself.
What else are they going to be learning? Honestly, it's a competition in itself, and so all the teams will be in a competitive mood. They aren't going to find time in training sessions to just relax and give pointers on anything besides the competition itself - which is twenty20 cricket.
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Old January 26, 2009, 08:10 PM
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Big time Foe.

For our boys I am against all kind of T20 games. Emnei impatient. If they play more of these sort of jodi laigga jai matches they will be soon follow their T20 performance in test. Which in clear words will out in one session.
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Old January 26, 2009, 09:19 PM
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Big time Foe.

For our boys I am against all kind of T20 games. Emnei impatient. If they play more of these sort of jodi laigga jai matches they will be soon follow their T20 performance in test. Which in clear words will out in one session.
Tigers_eye , you are giving 20-20 more credit that it deserves.Players wont change overnight.ODI cricket has improoved the quality of Test cricket over the years and the same will happen with 20-20.

I am not a big fan of 20-20 not because its going to diminish the quality of cricket (I think it will improove) but rather it might slowly kill Test cricket by virtue of its popularity.

If you look at the people who shined in last IPL or the 20-20 WC you would see that only good players have succeeded ..

There was a dicsussion on slogging in another thread ..sloggers will not succeed any form even in 20-20 , they might have a good innings here are there (which is true in ODI and tests) but will eventually fail.

Shewag and Ghambir are good in all forms so will Marsh and Watson.Class players will succeed in any format.The only thing I see different in this format is that this game is a young mans game, its hard to see the old timers tailor their game to this new format.This happened when ODI's were first introduced.Its more to do with adapting to the format than anything else.
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Old January 28, 2009, 08:34 AM
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Tigers_eye , you are giving 20-20 more credit that it deserves.Players wont change overnight.ODI cricket has improoved the quality of Test cricket over the years and the same will happen with 20-20.

I am not a big fan of 20-20 not because its going to diminish the quality of cricket (I think it will improove) but rather it might slowly kill Test cricket by virtue of its popularity.

If you look at the people who shined in last IPL or the 20-20 WC you would see that only good players have succeeded ..

Shewag and Ghambir are good in all forms so will Marsh and Watson.Class players will succeed in any format.The only thing I see different in this format is that this game is a young mans game, its hard to see the old timers tailor their game to this new format.This happened when ODI's were first introduced.Its more to do with adapting to the format than anything else.
Thanks for replying and few others too. There is big part that most of you are over looking.
1) Rest of the world.
2) And there is Bangladesh.

1) already knows how to play longer version of the game. WE DON"T. So the worry of T20 killing the world cricket is abserd. However, T20 will not enable BD players to learn what they are trying to learn which the longer version of the game. Or atleast delay the learning process.

Ghambir and Shewag mentioned here are already good test cricketer. Playing T20 will not make them forget how to build an inning brick by brick. On the other hand, T20 may not allow Bd players learn how to hold a brick let alone use the head to set it up with the cement to build a wall.

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I don't understand how some of you don’t want to acknowledge the valuable learning sessions...
Dear Betaar,
"Need" or "want"? Which one you satisfy first? I would presume "Need" first.

What does BD Cricket NEED in the long-run and in the short-run?
If your answer is any where near to "learning to play the longer version of the game" or "get a win or two in Test cricket" or "some respectable draws" then you have hit the jack pot.

If these boys are let to play T20 cricket instead of 3/4 days matches then their learning process will be much longer to meet the needs of Bd Cricket. That is why I prefer County cricket over IPL. Not for the money part but to gain the know-how.

Hope you understand now that valuable experience will only hinder their growth. We are talking about 20-25 year olds here Not 28-35 year olds.

Anywhere in T20 if one teach patience to the players then I will stop saying what I am saying. As for the bowling experience in the death or blah blah, Geez folks!! What are the need of BD cricket? Bowling or batting? Prioritize your need first. Try to fix which is broken not the one which is working some what well.
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Old January 28, 2009, 02:31 PM
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If these boys are let to play T20 cricket instead of 3/4 days matches then their learning process will be much longer to meet the needs of Bd Cricket. That is why I prefer County cricket over IPL. Not for the money part but to gain the know-how.
TE, I do not disagree with your post a single bit, no only objection I have is bolded, "instead of". I never said T20 is better than County nor have I compared it with any other form of cricket. Surley county is better, but who says these players are declining county offers for IPL? I don't know of any such news, do you? But isn't IPL contract better than nothing (and I am not talking financially) or even playing in NCL where none of the national players actually perform?
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Old January 29, 2009, 09:58 AM
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... But isn't IPL contract better than nothing (and I am not talking financially) or even playing in NCL where none of the national players actually perform?
I agree to disagree with you.

"Dustu goru'r (No pun intended to G) cheye shunno goaal bhalo."

IPL (Any T20 tourney) will teach our batsmen bad things. Will erase the word "patience" from their vocabulary and force them to play no footwork ura-dhura, andha-gunda shots. That is what T20 is all about. Geared towards cheap entertainment for the (I have no time) fans. You love the game you make time.

The format that will hurt these boys learning process of the longer version of the game can only be seen as "evil" to me. My loyalty lies with the team first (Test team first). It is better for them to even sit out and not play at all (rest). - my thoughts.

County contract will come if these boys practice any sort of patience.
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it will most likely hurt us..our players are already T-20 experts...we need reliable responsible player..not dhum dharakka type players..but ipl is here to stay and there isn't much we can do about it..
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Old January 26, 2009, 09:41 PM
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t20 cricket is alot about doing the basics right imo, sure sloggers will do ok, better than in other versions but you can still perform well in t20 cricket by batting with true cricket shots and bowling in the right area's (i'd say the best t20 players are the ones who do this the best).
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Just like Mr. Anderson said in Matrix, IPL (not 20/20) is a DISEASE. Money making machine which will kill the real cricket - TEST.
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Old January 26, 2009, 10:40 PM
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ICL will not help our cricketers. What our cricketers need is more 3-4 day matches so they can work on their application. 20/20 is parar cricket with a little bit of class (depending on the quality of the player) and a lot of entertainment.
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Friend. They won't get another similar chance to play 2 months in a row against quality oppositions while being part of a quality team. It should also equip them to handle pressure situations better.

In terms of quality, ODI is probably the worst among Test, ODI and T20. Compared to ODIs, there's far less room to succeed while being mediocre in the highest and most basic forms of the game.
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Friend. They won't get another similar chance to play 2 months in a row against quality oppositions while being part of a quality team. It should also equip them to handle pressure situations better.

In terms of quality, ODI is probably the worst among Test, ODI and T20. Compared to ODIs, there's far less room to succeed while being mediocre in the highest and most basic forms of the game.
Word for word. If T20's are going to replace anything, it'll be the ODI's.
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I'm more worried about test cricket then ODIs. The thrill of BANG BOOM cricket will definitely keep lots of folks excited and even ODIs will be considered too long for them. BD batsmen already prefer to play 20/20 in ODIs. However, test and quality cricket will probably be the biggest loser. It is what it is. Dukkho koreo luv nei.

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Word for word. If T20's are going to replace anything, it'll be the ODI's.
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