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Old March 29, 2009, 09:58 AM
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Default ICL coming to an end?

Abdul Razzaq has said the ICL has terminated their contracts. Now by "their" it is not clear who he meant, is it just the Lahore Badshahs only or every player in the ICL. There are reports too which say that ICL have told the most expensive players of the tournament like Shane Bond and Daryl Tuffey that they will be released from their contracts if they requested so. Media is saying this is because Zee isn't prepared to finance the ICL anymore due to the unattractive economic climate.

Now I did enjoy watching the Dhaka Warriors but my first priority will always be the Bangladesh team and it is vital for us to have players like Alok, SN and Dhiman back in the team - even more so since the Twenty20 World Cup is around the corner and besides Ash and Mash we do not have any other proper aggressive players in the current team. So the bottom line is if we are to beat the big guns we desperately need Alok, Aftab, Nazim and Dhiman back. And for that I'm prepared to sacrifice Dhaka Warriors.

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Old March 29, 2009, 10:10 AM
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I am with you on this one. If we are to make an impact on the 20/20 cup, then we need the fab 4 on the team. Having a strong reserve team always ensures the best performance.
I am a bit surprised with Zee backing out so quickly. I guess they too are no match for the might of BCCI. It was fun while it lasted.
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Old March 29, 2009, 10:10 AM
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Whether ICL is there or not - no way the three germs (SN, Alok, Dhiman) would be in my Bangladesh team. SN feel that playing for ICL is the greatest thing happen to him; Dhiman already has done enough for the team; Alok has publicly denounce our national team captain (I am not an Ash fan; but still he is our national captain)
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Whether ICL is there or not - no way the three germs (SN, Alok, Dhiman) would be in my Bangladesh team. SN feel that playing for ICL is the greatest thing happen to him; Dhiman already has done enough for the team; Alok has publicly denounce our national team captain (I am not an Ash fan; but still he is our national captain)
Sure they may have chosen monetary incentives over national pride, but wouldn't you agree that a stronger reserve bench would only enhance our team? We could really make an impact with their help. I think they are as proud as anyone in the team, when it comes to representing for their country. Let us forgive. What do you say thebest?
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Old March 29, 2009, 10:38 AM
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Sure they may have chosen monetary incentives over national pride, but wouldn't you agree that a stronger reserve bench would only enhance our team? We could really make an impact with their help. I think they are as proud as anyone in the team, when it comes to representing for their country. Let us forgive. What do you say thebest?
I am willing to forgive the other 13 (HB and Rafiq are still my favorite player; Aftab showed repentance for joining and the rest Farhad, Rubel the useless Nazim can be forgiven for their greed for money) but not the three. They bear the same DNA as that of MirJafar, Quisling or Peta. They should not even allowed to play even in exibition match. Aftab, HB, Rafiq et al sold their skill to highest bidder but these three sold their soul.
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Old March 29, 2009, 10:55 AM
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Alok definately desrves to be forgiven because I believe his reasons were justified. He wasnt given the full contract by BCB even after the fine knock against India ( probably one of the best innings by a bangladeshi batsmen). He was always in and out of the team. He was contnuously ignored even after he managed to be the best all rounder in Bangladesh premier league for few consecutive years. He was only given a chance after some injuries during Asia cup. Siddons saw him at the practice session and loved his batting. Blank the rest...
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Old March 29, 2009, 10:33 AM
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ICL offers to release New Zealand players:
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I don't want to see those traitors in red and green...
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Old March 29, 2009, 11:50 AM
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I can forgive anyone but Dhiman. Man..I was so happy to see him in the team and I was hopefulll he will score big soon. But the comment he made after quiting Int cricket, I don't even like to see his face. We don't need any players of his nature. Doesn't matter if he is one of the best keeper we have in our country. I can live with Mushy in the mean time. Mithun is scoring big and heard he is good in keeping too. So forget that selfish and ungreateful Dhiman.

SN is also a selfish but I wont mind seeing him in the national squad. Aftab will not play for the national team anymore. He is lazy(he said it himself) and doesnt like working hard like they do in national team.
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Old March 29, 2009, 12:40 PM
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I can forgive anyone but Dhiman. Man..I was so happy to see him in the team and I was hopefulll he will score big soon. But the comment he made after quiting Int cricket, I don't even like to see his face. We don't need any players of his nature. Doesn't matter if he is one of the best keeper we have in our country. I can live with Mushy in the mean time. Mithun is scoring big and heard he is good in keeping too. So forget that selfish and ungreateful Dhiman.

SN is also a selfish but I wont mind seeing him in the national squad. Aftab will not play for the national team anymore. He is lazy(he said it himself) and doesnt like working hard like they do in national team.
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Old March 29, 2009, 02:05 PM
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Pakistani players are also given the NOC if they decide to leave.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/...bdul+razzaq-ha
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Old March 29, 2009, 08:55 PM
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I can forgive anyone but Dhiman. Man..I was so happy to see him in the team and I was hopefulll he will score big soon. But the comment he made after quiting Int cricket, I don't even like to see his face. We don't need any players of his nature. Doesn't matter if he is one of the best keeper we have in our country. I can live with Mushy in the mean time. Mithun is scoring big and heard he is good in keeping too. So forget that selfish and ungreateful Dhiman.
SN is also a selfish but I wont mind seeing him in the national squad. Aftab will not play for the national team anymore. He is lazy(he said it himself) and doesnt like working hard like they do in national team.
murad bhai, you said exactly what is brewing in my mind. to the t. i am totally with you the way each and everyone of them you described.
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Old March 29, 2009, 06:34 PM
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bashar and rafique signed for ICL same way lara and inzy did, no worries on them. they retired from BCB the proper way and then signed up. they did not harm the BD team.

the others all did. of course guys like nazim and rubel were worthless and so they can be forgiven easily. dhiman can also possibly be condoned, because while he was on the national team, it was just a matter of time before he lost his position to mushy. still, thats not an excuse, but whatever.

aftab was plain stupid and showed remorse, plus we need a blaster in our ODI team. his fielding was first rate too. alok, if he repents can also be brought back, but i dunno if wants it or if the team will accept his apologies.

SN is rubbish and a coward. again, if he really repents, he should be called back into the test side. but he and alok are the real "traitors". again its not about money, if i was in their positions, who knows maybe i would have chased the dollar too. but its about pussying out of real cricket for garbage 20-20s.

but we need aftab's quick cameos at one down in the ODI side...
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Old March 30, 2009, 08:46 AM
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bashar and rafique signed for ICL same way lara and inzy did, no worries on them. they retired from BCB the proper way and then signed up. they did not harm the BD team.

the others all did. of course guys like nazim and rubel were worthless and so they can be forgiven easily. dhiman can also possibly be condoned, because while he was on the national team, it was just a matter of time before he lost his position to mushy. still, thats not an excuse, but whatever.

aftab was plain stupid and showed remorse, plus we need a blaster in our ODI team. his fielding was first rate too. alok, if he repents can also be brought back, but i dunno if wants it or if the team will accept his apologies.

SN is rubbish and a coward. again, if he really repents, he should be called back into the test side. but he and alok are the real "traitors". again its not about money, if i was in their positions, who knows maybe i would have chased the dollar too. but its about pussying out of real cricket for garbage 20-20s.

but we need aftab's quick cameos at one down in the ODI side...

I agree but they first must feel the shame and pain of not playing cricket for a few years. They went for the money in the first place and now its disbanded they shouldn't just be welcomed back with open arms. Let them feel guilt, regret, shame whatever adjective you can think of, then recall them. It shouldn't be an easy ride back to the national team. Otherwise what they did, they will be laughing inside, banked $200k in 1 year and then back to national team same as before, like nothing happened.
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Wheres our offer ... Ready to Bring em back as long as they apologize
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If they cancel their contact and allowed to play for the national team, it will just be positive for us....no negatives in there. I dont wanna join to the debate of who should be considered or who should be not. Fact is....we will get another pool of quality players to pick from for our national team.......If anyone...Alok, SN, Aftab....even Dhiman shows something to add to the team.....I dont mind.....because its the performance of Bangladesh team that matters.
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Whether ICL is there or not the banned traitors should be banned, players who put money in front of their country should not be considered for national team, period.
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Lahore Badshah or Pak players contracts might be terminated for the same reason IPL contracts were also terminated for Pak players. Thread is creating a very weak rumour by itself.

If all ICL contracts are terminated, all the players should be allowed to play in domestic and those who will perform well should be taken in the national team. Last thing we need is to show our grudge and invite partisan ship in our cric arena.

Traitor is a big word, there are almost a hundred or more educated traitors who went for Highers studies with govt money and never came back after study. These are young not so educated cricketers only.
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Traitor is a big word, there are almost a hundred or more educated traitors who went for Highers studies with govt money and never came back after study. These are young not so educated cricketers only.
agree in total !!

Dont call these kids traitors !! This is not a war nor these kids soldiers.They are simply disgruntled (at best) young men who chose to a different route to make their future. Like many us in here who left their countries to work for companies that in most cases rival companies back home.

My case ..I work(or used to) for IBM which rivals Infosyis (Indian based company).
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Lahore Badshah or Pak players contracts might be terminated for the same reason IPL contracts were also terminated for Pak players. Thread is creating a very weak rumour by itself.

If all ICL contracts are terminated, all the players should be allowed to play in domestic and those who will perform well should be taken in the national team. Last thing we need is to show our grudge and invite partisan ship in our cric arena.

Traitor is a big word, there are almost a hundred or more educated traitors who went for Highers studies with govt money and never came back after study. These are young not so educated cricketers only.
Kiwies are already released. So ICL is falling down
Sorry could not agree with the bolded part in first part. Why Naeem would suffer for Alok's greed. and why Ash ( Gadha or Village Idiot or whatever name you call) have to share the same dressing room with some smart greedy low life Dhiman or Nafees.
We have already discussed the traitors issue is not it? For once I came back and I have earned the right to call them traitor. Secondly, those educated traitors (?) were not offered 60,000 BDT per month or if you include all the perks One crore taka per year. Offer the money I belive all of them would come back. Thirdly, in most cases those educated traitors (?) who are at the moment are working with the top notch brain in the top notch facility could not perform the task in Bangladesh because simply we could not provide them the same facility. These cricketing traitors have the access to almost same quality facility as that of their colleagues of other teams of the world. BTW I never called them traitor. BUT Dhiman (I have done enough), Alok (Ash force me to do it; BCB did not offer me contract after I score a century) and SN (ICL is the best thing happens to me) deserve to called traitor. BTW SN (the ring leader) is highly literate.
These scumbags should not be allowed within 100 m of any cricket field of Bangladesh till they show real remorse and unconditional apology to the nation, to the fan, to their colleagues in national, divisional and local teams, BCB. Still after the lesser evils (Aftab who showed little remorse, the useless Nazim, Rubel) have to start from zero and have to dislodge the present team player by performing miles better and the traitors(SN, Dhiman and AK) should not be in national team even this mean we are missing the second coming of Barry Richards, Gilchrist and Benaud. The 70s South Africa is would have been one of the best team ever assembled to play cricket. But they never played together (Van der Blitz - the S African Garner did not play play) due to apartheid. On principle ICC agreed that aparthied has no place in cricket and SA lose the right to show their jewels . Interestingly one of the best player of the team Eddi Burlow (RIP, Our Coach) said that he has little regret for not playing test match as he though that was the right thing to do. Similarly not allowing those three for wearning Bangladesh cap again would send strong message to all the would be traitors that you have live with consequence.
As I mentioned earlier I am willing to forgive those who sold their skill but not those who sold their soul.
Though the analogy might be inappropriate it is something I am willing to forgive Chickon Ali (the only convict under Collaborator Act) but not the Nizami, Mujahid, Golam Azam
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Kiwies are already released. So ICL is falling down

Sorry could not agree with the bolded part in first part. Why Naeem would suffer for Alok's greed. and why Ash ( Gadha or Village Idiot or whatever name you call) have to share the same dressing room with some smart greedy low life Dhiman or Nafees.
Why not, if Naeem cannot perform better than they do in domestic, why not? There is no place for emotion and charity in national team. It's simple, whoever plays better will be in the team. So long all the players are BD nationals.

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We have already discussed the traitors issue is not it? For once I came back and I have earned the right to call them traitor. Secondly, those educated traitors (?) were not offered 60,000 BDT per month or if you include all the perks One crore taka per year. Offer the money I belive all of them would come back. Thirdly, in most cases those educated traitors (?) who are at the moment are working with the top notch brain in the top notch facility could not perform the task in Bangladesh because simply we could not provide them the same facility. These cricketing traitors have the access to almost same quality facility as that of their colleagues of other teams of the world. BTW I never called them traitor. BUT Dhiman (I have done enough), Alok (Ash force me to do it; BCB did not offer me contract after I score a century) and SN (ICL is the best thing happens to me) deserve to called traitor. BTW SN (the ring leader) is highly literate.
These scumbags should not be allowed within 100 m of any cricket field of Bangladesh till they show real remorse and unconditional apology to the nation, to the fan, to their colleagues in national, divisional and local teams, BCB. Still after the lesser evils (Aftab who showed little remorse, the useless Nazim, Rubel) have to start from zero and have to dislodge the present team player by performing miles better and the traitors(SN, Dhiman and AK) should not be in national team even this mean we are missing the second coming of Barry Richards, Gilchrist and Benaud. The 70s South Africa is would have been one of the best team ever assembled to play cricket. But they never played together (Van der Blitz - the S African Garner did not play play) due to apartheid. On principle ICC agreed that aparthied has no place in cricket and SA lose the right to show their jewels . Interestingly one of the best player of the team Eddi Burlow (RIP, Our Coach) said that he has little regret for not playing test match as he though that was the right thing to do. Similarly not allowing those three for wearning Bangladesh cap again would send strong message to all the would be traitors that you have live with consequence.
I don't remember that any thread made a binding decision of calling them traitors. I didn't call them then and won't call them traitors now.

You are trying to paint two similar situations with brushes of wishful colours only. They were all offered a job in BD institutes and they accepted it and waited for the chance of PhD & then abscoded. More money? yes, that's the common factor. Cricketers give us pleasure through their skills & the teachers give us knowledge, you decide which is a service of soul & which is skill.

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As I mentioned earlier I am willing to forgive those who sold their skill but not those who sold their soul.
I can safely say, that the cricketers sold their skills & the absconding teachers sold their souls.
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Kiwies are already released. So ICL is falling down
Sorry could not agree with the bolded part in first part. Why Naeem would suffer for Alok's greed. and why Ash ( Gadha or Village Idiot or whatever name you call) have to share the same dressing room with some smart greedy low life Dhiman or Nafees.
We have already discussed the traitors issue is not it? For once I came back and I have earned the right to call them traitor. Secondly, those educated traitors (?) were not offered 60,000 BDT per month or if you include all the perks One crore taka per year. Offer the money I belive all of them would come back. Thirdly, in most cases those educated traitors (?) who are at the moment are working with the top notch brain in the top notch facility could not perform the task in Bangladesh because simply we could not provide them the same facility. These cricketing traitors have the access to almost same quality facility as that of their colleagues of other teams of the world. BTW I never called them traitor. BUT Dhiman (I have done enough), Alok (Ash force me to do it; BCB did not offer me contract after I score a century) and SN (ICL is the best thing happens to me) deserve to called traitor. BTW SN (the ring leader) is highly literate.
These scumbags should not be allowed within 100 m of any cricket field of Bangladesh till they show real remorse and unconditional apology to the nation, to the fan, to their colleagues in national, divisional and local teams, BCB. Still after the lesser evils (Aftab who showed little remorse, the useless Nazim, Rubel) have to start from zero and have to dislodge the present team player by performing miles better and the traitors(SN, Dhiman and AK) should not be in national team even this mean we are missing the second coming of Barry Richards, Gilchrist and Benaud. The 70s South Africa is would have been one of the best team ever assembled to play cricket. But they never played together (Van der Blitz - the S African Garner did not play play) due to apartheid. On principle ICC agreed that aparthied has no place in cricket and SA lose the right to show their jewels . Interestingly one of the best player of the team Eddi Burlow (RIP, Our Coach) said that he has little regret for not playing test match as he though that was the right thing to do. Similarly not allowing those three for wearning Bangladesh cap again would send strong message to all the would be traitors that you have live with consequence.
As I mentioned earlier I am willing to forgive those who sold their skill but not those who sold their soul.
Though the analogy might be inappropriate it is something I am willing to forgive Chickon Ali (the only convict under Collaborator Act) but not the Nizami, Mujahid, Golam Azam
Please answer the bolded part. I am a University teacher and earning less than one third per month than Ashraful. I could not improve my doctoral work because of lack of facility in my university (and this is a top most one) or any university in Bangladesh. Ash and co get almost the same facility that Ponting got. The difference may be Ponting don't have to come in Sydny while Ash has to be in Dhaka

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Why not, if Naeem cannot perform better than they do in domestic, why not? There is no place for emotion and charity in national team. It's simple, whoever plays better will be in the team. So long all the players are BD nationals.
National team is always involve emotion. Why we feel dejected whenever Bangladesh? It is just a game is not it? When Abahoni we feel dejected but almost every Abahoni supporter is in BC. Check that when we lost to Zimbabawe. No body is talking about charity. Returning the place that Alok vacated which Nayeem took would be charity. With the excpetion of the three I have already mentioned that ICLers have to prove again and perform miles better to dislodge Nayeem/ Riyad.
And I would have always doubt in their bad performance whether they were sold to money, because they were proven once. Previously when Aftab got out to a stupid shot I would have blame his stupidness now I would suspect may be he got money to play that shot.

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I don't remember that any thread made a binding decision of calling them traitors. I didn't call them then and won't call them traitors now.

You are trying to paint two similar situations with brushes of wishful colours only. They were all offered a job in BD institutes and they accepted it and waited for the chance of PhD & then abscoded. More money? yes, that's the common factor. Cricketers give us pleasure through their skills & the teachers give us knowledge, you decide which is a service of soul & which is skill.
Was not BCB invested on them? Two of the traitors (SN, Dhiman) are product of our famed U19. Sorry to disappoint you, those teacher do not abscond; they resigned and returned all the monetary benefit they got during the time they stay overseas (that is their training period; not the time when they were doing their job,in the study leave the university is investing on them). Unlike the cricketers whose investment just come to zero

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I can safely say, that the cricketers sold their skills & the absconding teachers sold their souls.
I am with agreement with you long before you posted in this thread that cricketers sold their skill; but I have just objection on three I mentioned . Can you please explain how those teachers sold their soul. I would appreciate that.
Because still today I have not heard of any Non Resident former teacher bad mouthing their alma mater or even their employer university in Bangladesh rather I found many (For example Dr. Ataul Karim) who feel prouder being an alumni of BUET or Dhaka University than a famed western university.
The first things these three ICL traitors did was demonize Bangladesh National Team, BCB, Bangla Language (who can forget Dhiman speaking in fluent Hindi; BTW I don't think it is a crime; but someone might think; there is a thread), our national team captain. None of the university teachers do it in public though they have dissatisfaction againest their employer (we all do)
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Please answer the bolded part.

those educated traitors (?) were not offered 60,000 BDT per month or if you include all the perks One crore taka per year. Offer the money I belive all of them would come back. Thirdly, in most cases those educated traitors (?) who are at the moment are working with the top notch brain in the top notch facility could not perform the task in Bangladesh because simply we could not provide them the same facility. These cricketing traitors have the access to almost same quality facility as that of their colleagues of other teams of the world.
[thebest, please don't take anything personally, I'm just exressing my views on which I am convinced, not to take any side.]

University teachers are comparatively well paid & have allied facilities & have other parallal sources of income, so it is unfair to compare a cricketer's salary to a uni teacher straight up. Many NFL players, Footballers, NBL etc etc players get paid much more than the teachers of their own country.

A teacher's service period is untill he retires, every private universities will employ him there after till natural death. There are thousand and one ways for a Uni teacher to continue earning till death.

A cricketer's earning period is maximum 10 years. In BD it isn't even that at the moment, so they are infact more insecured in the money front.

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I am a University teacher and earning less than one third per month than Ashraful. I could not improve my doctoral work because of lack of facility in my university (and this is a top most one) or any university in Bangladesh. Ash and co get almost the same facility that Ponting got. The difference may be Ponting don't have to come in Sydny while Ash has to be in Dhaka
I guess you have completed Phd and come back. You have done the right thing. If you have worked for mandatory period (if there is any binding for doing the PhD on Uni scholarship) after the PhD, you have the legal choice to leave your job and fulfil your thurst of persuing more knowledge if you can't do it here.

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National team is always involve emotion. Why we feel dejected whenever Bangladesh? It is just a game is not it? When Abahoni we feel dejected but almost every Abahoni supporter is in BC. Check that when we lost to Zimbabawe. No body is talking about charity. Returning the place that Alok vacated which Nayeem took would be charity. With the excpetion of the three I have already mentioned that ICLers have to prove again and perform miles better to dislodge Nayeem/ Riyad.
And I would have always doubt in their bad performance whether they were sold to money, because they were proven once. Previously when Aftab got out to a stupid shot I would have blame his stupidness now I would suspect may be he got money to play that shot.
You are absolutely right, the fans are emotional and the result of national team will always make the people emotional, depending on the outcome. But taking or not taking a player is sellectors job and they have no scope of being emotional. They have to sellect the best possible team basing on the performance. If the team wins with the player you dislike, you will be happy and if the team loses with all your favorite players in the team, you will be sad. That's why to not to give you a sadistic emotional experience, the selection of the team must be without emotion. That's what I meant.

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Was not BCB invested on them? Two of the traitors (SN, Dhiman) are product of our famed U19. Sorry to disappoint you, those teacher do not abscond; they resigned and returned all the monetary benefit they got during the time they stay overseas (that is their training period; not the time when they were doing their job,in the study leave the university is investing on them). Unlike the cricketers whose investment just come to zero
Investment on the U19 etc are myth. 2/3 years of periodic camps in U17/19 doesn't take much for BCB to invest on them, just the cost of Egg, banana, milk & likes. They mostly run on pocket money, not regular salaries. Coach & support staff, split in amongst the number of players ride on U19 team. That's nothing if you consider the investment on that teacher's entire education to become a teacher. Unless some player has been through BKSP & Now Academy, investment on others are least.

If some teacher resigns & gives back his money I would still call him a sober gentleman, though it would be nice for them to have 2/3 years mandatory service after PhD before resignation, because we need their knowledge back not the money back. If it was only money, they could have taken loan from bank why bother for Scholarship. I know of many teachers who never came back to even resign. I have seen news papers serving legal notice to such teachers after many many years. That's completely breach of trust. If he has gone for PhD from the Uni he must come back, if he doesn't isn't it officially absconding?

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I am with agreement with you long before you posted in this thread that cricketers sold their skill; but I have just objection on three I mentioned . Can you please explain how those teachers sold their soul. I would appreciate that.
Because still today I have not heard of any Non Resident former teacher bad mouthing their alma mater or even their employer university in Bangladesh rather I found many (For example Dr. Ataul Karim) who feel prouder being an alumni of BUET or Dhaka University than a famed western university.
The first things these three ICL traitors did was demonize Bangladesh National Team, BCB, Bangla Language (who can forget Dhiman speaking in fluent Hindi; BTW I don't think it is a crime; but someone might think; there is a thread), our national team captain. None of the university teachers do it in public though they have dissatisfaction againest their employer (we all do)
Please consider the treatment you have given to these young not so educated boys after they have leaglly resigned and joined a cricket league. To the teacher's absconding without formal resignation after being sent on Scholarship. (if they don't return and just send a letter to uni, that's also highly immoral and unacceptable). NZ, Eng, Aus didn't make such hue and cry, so their players didn't have to react, while Pak, BD boards reacted as if they were thieves, so you can expect some bounce baclk.

Don't know if the expats do bad mouthing, but Uni teachers as a whole do a lot, while they are divided into LAL, NEEL etc banners. Many expats do write being politically biased that hurts the image of the country.

Language, I also was always alergic to this speaking hindi/urdu and couldn't tollerate, still I feel uneasy to hear BD people speak that language, but I also understand their situation. If they can't speak Eng they have to express in some way. I have seen many educated people speaking Hindi/Urdu when they meet people from Pak & Ind. Well I think this is the influence of 71 on me, while I can excuse the younger, Post 71 generation, not so literate people for not being so sensitive of hindi/urdu due to cable culture etc etc, but not the educated one's.

Finally, I understand all the realities of the teachers you said and probably would be happy if most of them would come back and help to build our instititions, but also don't blame for taking care of their personal career while changing the LAL-NEEL culture isn't less than JEHAD in DU. But While people call the cricketer's traitor for ICL, I had to compare it to the teachers, as an example. Personally I respect everyone's decision of his life, he knows his disposition best, I don't want to call anyone a traitor for a simple career decision, if Golam Azam isn't one for what he did.
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Lahore Badshah or Pak players contracts might be terminated for the same reason IPL contracts were also terminated for Pak players. Thread is creating a very weak rumour by itself.

If all ICL contracts are terminated, all the players should be allowed to play in domestic and those who will perform well should be taken in the national team. Last thing we need is to show our grudge and invite partisan ship in our cric arena.

Traitor is a big word, there are almost a hundred or more educated traitors who went for Highers studies with govt money and never came back after study. These are young not so educated cricketers only.
No matter how logically you phrase it; we are unprofessional in our thinking. So, terms like 'rebel', 'traitor', 'forgiveness' will prevail in Bangladesh, because their cricket career is on the hand of the BCB officials, while even the Bangladesh Govt has the minimum of control over my life abroad. On the backside of the passport, they write that every Bangladeshi National is supposed to report to the Nearby bangladesh Embassy at least once per year. In my last 8 years, the only time I contacted them is just to renew the pass.

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If they do ask for forgiveness "Big If". And BCB forgives them.
Dont you think they should earn their place by playing in domestic cricket? As they are out of cricket for so long, I dont think they would be match fit for long version cricket for at least an year.
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