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Old July 14, 2009, 02:50 PM
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Default Replacement of Ash...

To start with Congrate to Brave Tiger, It was well earned 2nd test victory. After watching the game; analysis at my own. All of our boys have shown some sorts of determination even with 9 uncaped WI player. Nevertheless, Win is a win.
Goin to my point after watching Ash performance so far this series who has played 8 yrs for BD team hasn't been able to put up any sort of consistency; most of you would agree with in this case. I think it's time to call up Alok Kapali back in this series to replace Ash; i am confident Alok will do far better than Ash..have your say...
And Congragulation Mash and Shakib for their 1ST TEST WIN ...JOB WELL DONE

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Old July 14, 2009, 02:53 PM
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Old July 14, 2009, 02:58 PM
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This is just a bull crap...why not !!! for greater benefit we got to bring back those kids...with those new kids along with experience one would make a profound team ...we have to lift up those BS ban on those ICLers'...
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:39 PM
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This is just a bull crap...why not !!! for greater benefit we got to bring back those kids...with those new kids along with experience one would make a profound team ...we have to lift up those BS ban on those ICLers'...
We don't know how they're doing physically or in terms of form. The ICL is not a fair indication of either as a) it only involves the 20 over format and b) the quality of opposition is crap.

Let them play in the domestic leagues and make their way back. Some of them are good enough to be able to do so, which is why I'm really looking forward to the likes of SN, AK and MH playing for Bangladesh again. But for now, I personally am only thinking about the second test and as far as I'm concerned, we're playing a two-test series of which Ash has already failed 50% of the time. With capable men like MJ in the side, there's no reason why we shouldn't replace him in Grenada.
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:45 PM
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Absoulty; We got options to replace him so why not...chances of his failing is pretty obivious...Odds are against him anyway you look into it ..

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We don't know how they're doing physically or in terms of form. The ICL is not a fair indication of either as a) it only involves the 20 over format and b) the quality of opposition is crap.

Let them play in the domestic leagues and make their way back. Some of them are good enough to be able to do so, which is why I'm really looking forward to the likes of SN, AK and MH playing for Bangladesh again. But for now, I personally am only thinking about the second test and as far as I'm concerned, we're playing a two-test series of which Ash has already failed 50% of the time. With capable men like MJ in the side, there's no reason why we shouldn't replace him in Grenada.
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:50 PM
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This is just a bull crap...why not !!! for greater benefit we got to bring back those kids...with those new kids along with experience one would make a profound team ...we have to lift up those BS ban on those ICLers'...
I dunt see how ICLers are any better than ash....



And as for the ICLers that are back into national team... these are players such as Bond or Yousuf....

Add up all our ICLers and you wont get a player matching that quality.


Our ICLers are not that good. Its light them going away has hindered some fans common sense and they now see these players as amazing. Remember most were in the nat fold before, and none of them were World Class (can't miss) players back then, and I doubt any of them are now.



Instead of just giving them a free ride, when they have nothing to back them up (Bond, Razzaq, Yousof have at least played really well before), let them ease into the team. Let them play actual 4 day matches (not 20/20). Let them play domestic cricket. Let them at least prove they are worthy of representing Bangladesh on the national stage.
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:55 PM
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They were BD player before joining ICL along with Ash...All on sudden they are ICler just becoz they join..lol

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Old July 14, 2009, 04:02 PM
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They were BD player before joining ICL along with Ash...All on sudden they are ICler just becoz they join..lol
Well they joined ICL hence they are ICLers..... And I know they were in BD team before Ash.

What I'm saying is that some fans are blindly stating, "bring back the ICLers"... Like that will do anything to fix our team. They havn't proven that they can help. Give them some time to prove themselves before bring them in.
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No Id rather keep him, he scored a century last series.

165 runs at an average of 41.25.

So why drop for one bad match in batting, he performed with the ball.

And to be fair, he was in a really bad position in the 2nd innings, because we needed quick runs, and in this scenario, Ash would have always gone overboard.

SO NO!

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Old July 14, 2009, 03:10 PM
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No Id rather keep him, he scored a century last series.

165 runs at an average of 41.25.

So why drop for one bad match in batting, he performed with the ball.

And to be fair, he was in a really bad position in the 2nd innings, because we needed quick runs, and in this scenario, Ash would have always gone overboard.

SO NO!

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Old July 14, 2009, 03:54 PM
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I agreed
I second that.

on a side note, why is that everyday or almost every other day, someone has to open up a thread about dropping Ash?

this is his first game after getting stripped of captancy.
Give the boy some time to get that out of his system so that he can concentarte 100% on batting or bowling for that matter.

His not even a go to bowler for BD and picked up two precious wkts when needed.

Let him enjoy the win, get off his back for now.
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:08 PM
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There is none in BD that could replacr ASH.Man don't you remember the breakthrough that he gave us in both innings especially in the 2nd innings where we needed that wk badly.

and this guy also have loads of talents with the bowl......And if he was continuing bowling like when he came in the NT team by now he would have been one of the best spinner in Bangladesh!
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:08 PM
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:13 PM
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And Congragulation Mash and Shakil for their 1ST TEST WIN ...JOB WELL DONE
And who is Shakil ??
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:16 PM
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Why are disgruntled fans of Ash opening threads like this. What has Ash done so badly that so many people want to see him kicked out? He is still a valuable member of the team and a team player. He was there as support for Sakib, giving him advice and moral support, so I think these threads about Ash should be stopped. How come, no one is asking for Raqibal to be thrown out. I feel that he should be dropped.
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:17 PM
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Why are disgruntled fans of Ash opening threads like this. What has Ash done so badly that so many people want to see him kicked out? He is still a valuable member of the team and a team player. He was there as support for Sakib, giving him advice and moral support, so I think these threads about Ash should be stopped. How come, no one is asking for Raqibal to be thrown out. I feel that he should be dropped.
True.Don't talk about us fan because it doesn't worth.As a fan we are horrible & disgusted.
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:25 PM
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It wasn't as personal as it is sound. We as a fan have our best interest to see our team is doing the best; in this case if we need to bash someone for greater benefit I won't hesitage to do so...
In another note, Alok is my choice due to fact of his last perform at ICL; He was highest scorer and his batting/balling far effective than Ash. If you look at Ash body language he seems rather tired or over confident. This Kid need a break or something ..He is not really upto his mark ...


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Why are disgruntled fans of Ash opening threads like this. What has Ash done so badly that so many people want to see him kicked out? He is still a valuable member of the team and a team player. He was there as support for Sakib, giving him advice and moral support, so I think these threads about Ash should be stopped. How come, no one is asking for Raqibal to be thrown out. I feel that he should be dropped.

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Old July 14, 2009, 03:26 PM
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How come, no one is asking for Raqibal to be thrown out. I feel that he should be dropped.
May be Raqibal played just few TESTs and people are not sure what he has to offer given him few more chances.... versus (people may have different opinion on Ash, but) by this time everybody knows what Ash can provide to the team...

May be people disagree with you that we just don't bring a new kid in the team and then just drop him impateintely.

and may be some people thinks that you get pateient with the new player a little bit but there is no point to be lethergically patient with more experienced under achievers.

May be I answweered your question, then again may be not.
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:16 PM
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To start with Congrate to Brave Tiger, It was well earned 2nd test victory. After watching the game; analysis at my own. All of our boys have shown some sorts of determination even with 9 uncaped WI player. Nevertheless, Win is a win.
Goin to my point after watching Ash performance so far this series who has played 8 yrs for BD team hasn't been able to put up any sort of consistency; most of you would agree with in this case. I think it's time to call up Alok Kapali back in this series to replace Ash; i am confident Alok will do far better than Ash..have you say...
And Congragulation Mash and Shakil for their 1ST TEST WIN ...JOB WELL DONE
Dude what has Alok done? He also played for long long time for BD again done worst than Ash and the confident word is useless because you are saying your confident about alok but is Alok really confident himself who will play in the middle not you?
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:22 PM
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Ash probably needs a rest, NOT a kick out.
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:26 PM
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Ash probably needs a rest, NOT a kick out.
Yes, for now. I wouldn't have him in my XI for the second test, but I wouldn't drop him from the squad altogether either, at least not yet.

Now he might go on to score a hundred if picked for the second test, but it's high time we stopped letting these once-in-a-blue-moon innings fool us and explore options that will yield benefits on a more consistent basis in the long term.
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:28 PM
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If you replace Ash, look no further than Mehrab.

It is only possible in Bangladesh to judge a batsman's test eligibility by his performance in a reject T20 league. Doesn't even merit a response.
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:31 PM
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If you replace Ash, look no further than Mehrab.

It is only possible in Bangladesh to judge a batsman's test eligibility by his performance in a reject T20 league. Doesn't even merit a response.
especially against those bunch of s*** bowler who bowl below 80mph without any variation. But the question might be what about Lahore Badsha's bowling attack...well what did Alok did again L.Badsha in 2 matches?? proves quality bowler is too good for alok(more often)
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:43 PM
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especially against those bunch of s*** bowler who bowl below 80mph without any variation. But the question might be what about Lahore Badsha's bowling attack...well what did Alok did again L.Badsha in 2 matches?? proves quality bowler is too good for alok(more often)
Alok played LB once. The match with ICL PAK never took place for the ICL world series.

Its funny how these 'Reject' guys are all coming back to internationals (Razzaq, Yusuf, Bond, Tuffey).

Some of the Indian players are also going to be picked up by the IPL. I won't be surprised to see Alok, Aftab and SN making their way there in the near future either.

So to summarize, Alok scoring runs against 2nd stringers makes him a loser but Ash scoring 9 & 6 against a world class WI bowling attack makes him king.
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Old July 14, 2009, 03:49 PM
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FYI; in WI team 9 uncaped player so you do the math...


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Alok played LB once. The match with ICL PAK never took place for the ICL world series.

Its funny how these 'Reject' guys are all coming back to internationals (Razzaq, Yusuf, Bond, Tuffey).

Some of the Indian players are also going to be picked up by the IPL. I won't be surprised to see Alok, Aftab and SN making their way there in the near future either.

So to summarize, Alok scoring runs against 2nd stringers makes him a loser but Ash scoring 9 & 6 against a world class WI bowling attack makes him king.
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