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Old August 31, 2009, 07:17 PM
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BCB makes umpires cheaper

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http://www.newagebd.com/2009/sep/01/spt.html

In a country where everyday life is getting harder with the soaring prices of essentials, the Bangladesh Cricket Board has almost halved the remuneration of local cricket umpires and scorers, triggering a shock and surprise.

The BCB at its last meeting on August 18 decided that an A grade umpire from the national pool would receive Tk 12,000 for a first-class match, which is Tk 8,000 less than what they got in the last season.

The remuneration of umpires of other grades will also come down proportionately for first-class matches, the BCB decided.

They BCB also reduced the remuneration of umpires for one-day matches as well. Last season the remuneration of umpires ranged from Tk 6,000 to Tk 4,500 depending on their grade, but the BCB has decided that they will now be paid at a flat rate of Tk 5,000 for conducting a one-day match.

Similarly the BCB also slashed the remuneration of scorers for first-class and one-day matches. A scorer used to get Tk 12,000 for a first-class match, but the BCB decided it will come down to maximum Tk 8,000. For a one-day match they will get now Tk 2,500 against Tk 3,000.

The BCB officials said they have taken the decision after comparing the remuneration of the players and the umpires. ‘In a first-class match a player gets a match fee of Tk 10,000 while an umpire gets double the amount. We decided to bring a balance between them,’ said a BCB official.

But their decision shocked the umpires, who said comparing them with the players is totally unfair. ‘A player can earn money from many sources, but the umpires are not that fortunate. Unlike the players, they are only paid by the BCB, so both groups cannot be compared in the same way,’ said an umpire requesting not to be named.

‘In addition to that a player can play all matches in a season if he is fit. But an umpire does not get a match everyday. For example, in the National Cricket League a player can play as many as 10 matches, but an umpire will get five to six matches,’ he added.

The umpires also urged the BCB to take a lesson from the ICC, which pays an umpire $6,500 for conducting a Test match. The amount is much higher than the match fee of a Test cricketer.

They said when improving their standard is a precondition of Bangladesh’s overall improvement in the game, the decision of the BCB would certainly hamper the process. Many umpires, who have taken it as a full-time job, will now certainly retreat.

The BCB has spent $4,50,000 over the last two years for improving the standard of umpires under an agreement with Cricket Australia, but it will bring no fruit if they are not treated properly, said the senior umpires.

‘It’s very unfortunate that the BCB has reduced the remuneration of umpires. We were not even discussed before the BCB made the decision,’ said Sailab Hossain Tutul, general secretary of the Bangladesh Cricket Umpires and Scorers Association.

Tutul said they have already verbally protested the move and will decide their next course of action after the Iftar party of the association on September 4. The seasoned umpire, who is also a BCB councillor, blamed Mahmood Jamal, chairman of BCB’s umpires’ committee, for his indifferent attitude towards them.

‘It has been nearly a year since he was made the chairman of the umpires committee. But the gentleman did not even bother to sit with us for a single session over the period,’ said Tutul.

Asked about the allegation, Jamal said he has not enough time to sit with 2,000 umpires. The BCB director, who hails from Rajshahi, was also caught unaware about the massive reduction of umpires’ remuneration.

‘It’s not an unauthentic news,’ Jamal said initially when he was approached by New Age over phone. After he was categorically informed about the BCB decision, Jamal claimed that the reduction is very nominal.
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Old August 31, 2009, 07:32 PM
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Whoa. Those are some big salary cuts.
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Old August 31, 2009, 08:23 PM
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BCB makes umpires cheaper

but in reality, BCB is showing their cheaper side.
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Old September 1, 2009, 01:13 AM
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Whoa. Those are some big salary cuts.
I was shocked to see they make so much! This rate requires further cut.
How hard it is to umpire a cricket game? Even a five year old can do the job.
I know I did when I was five.
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Old September 1, 2009, 01:43 AM
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I was shocked to see they make so much! This rate requires further cut.
How hard it is to umpire a cricket game? Even a five year old can do the job.
I know I did when I was five.
you seem to have no idea about proffesional umpiring and yet chose to comment. How comical...:p
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Old September 1, 2009, 11:40 AM
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you seem to have no idea about proffesional umpiring and yet chose to comment. How comical...:p
Maybe you need to learn how to spell professional first? An umpire candidate I see.
Professional umpiring does not require a degree from Harvard.
A basic high school degree will do. A school teacher needs a MS degree in BD now.
Dont take my words so literally, I was joking about the five year old.
Point is, as far as BD standard is concerned, these umpires are overpaid.
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Old August 31, 2009, 07:56 PM
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lipu bhai ra BCB'r takai desher baire regular ghurte jawai budget short porse. Tai umpire der takai haat ditesen tara
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Old September 1, 2009, 12:40 AM
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lipu bhai ra BCB'r takai desher baire regular ghurte jawai budget short porse. Tai umpire der takai haat ditesen tara
Yea, a group of three people travelling to West Indies, in Business class, to 'motivate' our team.......and our umpires are not getting enough money[come on, even 12000tk isnt enough]
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As I was reading some questions came to my mind, has umpiring turned into a permanent job or is it still an amature work from ex-players/officials. Even if their fist salary is not sufficient to survive a whole year earning only from seasonal leagues.

This is not really a good news, is it?
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Old September 1, 2009, 12:39 AM
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Is this the reason why Enamul Haque is always eager to give the Bangladeshi Batsmen out?? A method to get back to BCB?
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Old September 1, 2009, 01:11 AM
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Is this the reason why Enamul Haque is always eager to give the Bangladeshi Batsmen out?? A method to get back to BCB?
He shows neutrality by favoring other teams.
Beacuse of umpires like him our we lost several sure win matches.
And you want us to pay these so called umpires?
Many fans will be happy to umpire a game for free.
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Is this the reason why Enamul Haque is always eager to give the Bangladeshi Batsmen out?? A method to get back to BCB?
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Well BCB is cutting executive travel budget too.
12000 taka per match is less? In a country where school teachers make 3000 taka per month?
Officiate 12 matches and you make 150,000 taka. Thats a first class govt officer salary per year.
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Well BCB is cutting executive travel budget too.
12000 taka per match is less? In a country where school teachers make 3000 taka per month?
Officiate 12 matches and you make 150,000 taka. Thats a first class govt officer salary per year.
the point you raised is ridicilous. I think you havent read the article, ICC plays an umpire 6500$ per game, whereas a player gets around 2500$ per game. An umpires job is always much harder than a player's. A player needs to concentrate when he is bolwing/batting. But the umpire has to stay on field and give his 100% for 4 days straight. I doubt a five year old can do that. This is all disregarding the fact that one wrong decision by an umprire generates far more fuss than a players mistake.
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the point you raised is ridicilous. I think you havent read the article, ICC plays an umpire 6500$ per game, whereas a player gets around 2500$ per game. An umpires job is always much harder than a player's. A player needs to concentrate when he is bolwing/batting. But the umpire has to stay on field and give his 100% for 4 days straight. I doubt a five year old can do that. This is all disregarding the fact that one wrong decision by an umprire generates far more fuss than a players mistake.
I dont care how much ICC pays them. Thats their business. With benefits and stocks, Intel CEO makes 20 Million Dollars per year. Can you pay the same amount to a CEO in Bangladesh? Someone can learn all the cricket rules and umpiring technique in less than three months. If you give just 1000 taka per match there will be thousands of application for one umpiring position in dhaka. Umpiring job is not that tough. Counting ball for 4 days while watching the game is no rocket science.
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I dont care how much ICC pays them. Thats their business. With benefits and stocks, Intel CEO makes 20 Million Dollars per year. Can you pay the same amount to a CEO in Bangladesh? Someone can learn all the cricket rules and umpiring technique in less than three months. If you give just 1000 taka per match there will be thousands of application for one umpiring position in dhaka. Umpiring job is not that tough. Counting ball for 4 days while watching the game is no rocket science.
Yes, paying 1000, why 1000, pay 100 taka and you will see hundreds of people willing to stand as an umpire. But do we need hundred people wanting to be umpires, or a handfull of decent umpires??
And about umpires job being easy......ask Bucknor, Darel Hayer. One wrong decisino and the whole world starts blaming on you.
Not showing sufficient respect to umpire/scorers wont help our cricket.
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I dont care how much ICC pays them. Thats their business. With benefits and stocks, Intel CEO makes 20 Million Dollars per year. Can you pay the same amount to a CEO in Bangladesh? Someone can learn all the cricket rules and umpiring technique in less than three months. If you give just 1000 taka per match there will be thousands of application for one umpiring position in dhaka. Umpiring job is not that tough. Counting ball for 4 days while watching the game is no rocket science.
Reyme, Clearly, you know nothing about cricket.
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Well BCB is cutting executive travel budget too.
12000 taka per match is less? In a country where school teachers make 3000 taka per month?
Officiate 12 matches and you make 150,000 taka. Thats a first class govt officer salary per year.
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I dont care how much ICC pays them. Thats their business. With benefits and stocks, Intel CEO makes 20 Million Dollars per year. Can you pay the same amount to a CEO in Bangladesh?
If you can not compare CEO from BD and CEO from US, then I am afraid you can not compare umpires and school teachers. Does University deans in BD make what Shakib, Mash, Ash makes per year? Sports salary and education salary is never same. Umpires are not peons.

Our board must match ratios with other test playing countries when it comes to paying salaries to the umpires, organizers, curators etc.

Umpiring is not that easy that any one can do that job. We still have one of the highest unemployment rate. Why can't every one become an Umpire?

Where did you get BCB cutting executive budget? Are you talking about the less people accompanying the Academy tour? Didn't we read that from now on in every tour there will be parlamentary members accompanying the team on BCB's expense?

Umpiring, refereeing are the hardest thankless jobs. Specially in BD where one would not have the technology to help them. I hope all umpires quit. Let us see what BCB will do. May be hire Reyme, then we can throw pocha dim at him when makes a mistake.
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If you can not compare CEO from BD and CEO from US, then I am afraid you can not compare umpires and school teachers. Does University deans in BD make what Shakib, Mash, Ash makes per year? Sports salary and education salary is never same. Umpires are not peons.

Our board must match ratios with other test playing countries when it comes to paying salaries to the umpires, organizers, curators etc.

Umpiring is not that easy that any one can do that job. We still have one of the highest unemployment rate. Why can't every one become an Umpire?

Where did you get BCB cutting executive budget? Are you talking about the less people accompanying the Academy tour? Didn't we read that from now on in every tour there will be parlamentary members accompanying the team on BCB's expense?

Umpiring, refereeing are the hardest thankless jobs. Specially in BD where one would not have the technology to help them. I hope all umpires quit. Let us see what BCB will do. May be hire Reyme, then we can throw pocha dim at him when makes a mistake.
well said bro. Strangely for some reason this Reyme guy has some grudge against the umpires.
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well said bro. Strangely for some reason this Reyme guy has some grudge against the umpires.
This reyme guy (whoever he is) does not have anything against good umpires. He has grugde against biased and incompetent umpires like Ashoka who does more harm to cricket than good. Incompetent umpires take the charm away from watching a well fought game.

Having said that are you telling me the new rate of 12000 Taka per 4 day match and 5000 taka for an ODI match is not enough?
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This reyme guy (whoever he is) does not have anything against good umpires. He has grugde against biased and incompetent umpires like Ashoka who does more harm to cricket than good. Incompetent umpires take the charm away from watching a well fought game.

Having said that are you telling me the new rate of 12000 Taka per 4 day match and 5000 taka for an ODI match is not enough?
$ 75 for 8 hours of work, is't worth to get quality output as expected at the international level. But i guess that's for domestic umpiring; still on the margin, could just be ok for mediocres.

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Golf has officials at every hole and even on the fairways & obstacles. Or else who observes the adherence of rules of the game? ONly thing they aren't called umpires and they are huge in number, like the officials of the Atheletics competitions. etc

A wrong call or interpretation by the officials may still cost a player heavily. How can you have a competition without an umpire/refferee/official/judge what ever you call them.
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Our board must match ratios with other test playing countries when it comes to paying salaries to the umpires, organizers, curators etc.

Umpiring is not that easy that any one can do that job. We still have one of the highest unemployment rate. Why can't every one become an Umpire?

Where did you get BCB cutting executive budget? Umpiring, refereeing are the hardest thankless jobs. Specially in BD where one would not have the technology to help them. I hope all umpires quit. Let us see what BCB will do.
1. The board did an comparative analysis with other boards and players salary ratio and decided to lower the salary of the umpires.

2. Umpiring is not easy, there is no doubt about it. But 20,000 taka per match? A football referee in our country makes upto 2000 taka per match.

3. To become an umpire you need umpiring classes and ceritification. There is no such private institution in our country who does that. Thats why not everybody can become an umpire even if they want to. Plus we dont need thousands of umpires. If umpiring was such an honorabale job you will see dozens of coaching institutions and universities enrolling students to become an umpire.

4. Our culture is such that become a doctor or engineer is a big deal. Nobody tells you he wants to become an umpire for living. Thats why even with one of the highest unemployment rate not mnay would show much interest.

5. Look, umpires are part of the game, dont treat them like GOD. If they quit, let it be, club officials and extra players are capable of decent umpiring. Have we not played all our lives by standing up one of the opposition or reserve player as umpire?
And did we treat them like peons?

6. BCB execs dont get paid (exept for few). They started to cut cost in various areas if you follow the latest news and articles. Cutting cost for umpiring is part of the cost cutting effort.
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1. The board did an comparative analysis with other boards and players salary ratio and decided to lower the salary of the umpires.

2. Umpiring is not easy, there is no doubt about it. But 20,000 taka per match? A football referee in our country makes upto 2000 taka per match.
1. Then why not increase players salary. Our cricket board's yearly budget 100crore tk so it would not be a matter. Btw eto tk kun khate khoroch hoy?
2.are u sure that a football referee gets only 2000tk? I m not sure though.

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Umpiring, refereeing are the hardest thankless jobs. Specially in BD where one would not have the technology to help them. I hope all umpires quit. Let us see what BCB will do. May be hire Reyme, then we can throw pocha dim at him when makes a mistake.
Trust me not many people knew that the umpires were making that much. Neither did I. 20,000 Taka per match. Apparently that is not enough for you.

What are you proposing? One lakh or one crore per game? If yes, I will take that as a part time job anyday.
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