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Old February 17, 2010, 03:15 PM
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Default First 'Cheat', now 'Liar' what next, 'Scoundrel'?

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New Zealand captain Daniel Vettori also weighed in on the issue saying, "I haven't seen the replays, but Brendon was unsure about it so I went to the umpires and talked to them and they were confident about the decision," pointing out that Bangladesh "still had a review up their sleeve" but opted not to use it.
really? was he uncertain?

if so, then why the whole-hearted appeal with a look of glee on his face? was he also unsure if Murali was taking a run and just happened to hug his teammate in the middle of the pitch?

i guess when you're unsure you should just pull the trigger and ask questions later (or not at all).

i also didn't notice any Kiwi talking to umpires...now i'm not blaming vettori on field...only the sq. leg ump, Mac, and the slips knew what was going on. but for vettori to excuse rank cheating by his man with "they had a review" BS is blameworthy.

shala you will rarely win any test matches except against BD, so you are a minnow as well, for your high and might attitude. you were lucky, because shakib and riyad would have def trimmed your lead to double digits, making a win impossible for you. who knows a miracle could have seen a BD win.

and Big Brainless, you just missed ur double ton here courtesy of the Royal Bengal Express and some pro-active Karma...you will never score a test double century...you're already 31 aren't you? tamim has 10 years and loads of technique on your tattooed *** and still scores at a higher SR, shakib and riyad have years and years on you...so does little rahim. they might all have double tons when they retire and not against an up and coming bowling attack in home conditions on a flat track.

it must really suck to be you.
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Old February 17, 2010, 03:22 PM
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Old February 17, 2010, 03:34 PM
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Never seen (read) al Furqaan so angry ! Must be something really bad .

Can someone help me find the link that shows what happened . I found NZ'landers generally fair compared to Ponting (the Cheat) and gang .They must have been desperate to see the back of Sakib
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Old February 17, 2010, 03:50 PM
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Never seen (read) al Furqaan so angry ! Must be something really bad .

Can someone help me find the link that shows what happened . I found NZ'landers generally fair compared to Ponting (the Cheat) and gang .They must have been desperate to see the back of Sakib
exactly you can expect such behaviour from ponting or sehwag, or some biggoted lahori steroid pusher. but from vet and the kiwis? a bit surprising.
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exactly you can expect such behaviour from ponting or sehwag, or some biggoted lahori steroid pusher. but from vet and the kiwis? a bit surprising.
sehwag, really ? how many times have you seen him cheating in a cricket match ?
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Old February 17, 2010, 06:01 PM
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sehwag, really ? how many times have you seen him cheating in a cricket match ?
not necessarily cheating...although i wouldn't put it past him...but spouting off uncouth statements.
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Old February 17, 2010, 03:45 PM
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situational...whilst cheating in any circumstance is equally bad...had we been 150-7 and even riyad been done in whilst on 15 and not on 87*...i wouldn't have been pissed...its a lost cause, and i wuold shrug and say "mac is a foul cheater, bush lied, ppl died...thats, life, and who cares?"

but mac effectively turned the match around.

its safe to say that shakib would have added at least 13...but that would have added another 10-15 riyad runs too. possibly adding 50 more to our total. that means instead of pushing for a tough and unlikely win, NZ would have no choice but to play for a draw.

for India it matters little cuz they have the next 2 tests...but we have one match and only one shot at getting a respectable result.

BCB needs to complain otherwise i will personally hand lotus' *** to him next time i'm in dhaka.
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Old February 17, 2010, 03:32 PM
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$hit happens and it happened!

Mostly what happened was in spur of the moment. Who knows may be Mushfiq would have done the same as McKalam. But we don't need to over-emphasize the situation. There is actually no benefit doing that.

The big point is our captain failed to realize the situation. But again no need to make a fuss about that either cause $hit happens...plus hes only 22-23 and would learn this over time.

But important thing is, we need to grow our backbones. When no playing condition is there but batting cause the opponent wants that... hurts us more than these issues.

If there are no guts to ask lights there is no point getting engaged in verbal arguments against Vito mastan and getting out soon after (like Tameem did).
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Old February 17, 2010, 07:32 PM
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$hit happens and it happened!

Mostly what happened was in spur of the moment. Who knows may be Mushfiq would have done the same as McKalam. But we don't need to over-emphasize the situation. There is actually no benefit doing that.

The big point is our captain failed to realize the situation. But again no need to make a fuss about that either cause $hit happens...plus hes only 22-23 and would learn this over time.

But important thing is, we need to grow our backbones. When no playing condition is there but batting cause the opponent wants that... hurts us more than these issues.

If there are no guts to ask lights there is no point getting engaged in verbal arguments against Vito mastan and getting out soon after (like Tameem did).
Shame! Shame!! Shame!!!

http://www.cricinfo.com/nzvbdesh2010...ry/448633.html
hris Martin broke the resistance soon after tea with the second new ball, though replays showed that Shakib's under-edge bounced well short of Brendon McCullum, who claimed the catch instantly. It was an unfortunate end to a special innings
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Old February 17, 2010, 03:35 PM
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If Mushy pulled the same cheating crap, I'd drag _him_ over coals too. Well said Asad!
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If Mushy pulled the same cheating crap, I'd drag _him_ over coals too. Well said Asad!
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Old February 17, 2010, 03:35 PM
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Strong accusations there! But all based on assumptions!

Well, you know, assumptions can often make an a$$ out of you. Good thing is our players not falling for it.
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Strong accusations there! But all based on assumptions!

Well, you know, assumptions can often make an a$$ out of you. Good thing is our players not falling for it.
http://www.cricinfo.com/nzvbdesh2010...ry/448633.html
Martin broke the resistance soon after tea with the second new ball, though replays showed that Shakib's under-edge bounced well short of Brendon McCullum, who claimed the catch instantly. It was an unfortunate end to a special innings
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BTW, as for myself, I did not have access to all 18 cameras on the field. My computer screen at that point was showing me Shakib walking out of the field, there was no way I could have seen what Vettori was doing then.
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Old February 17, 2010, 03:46 PM
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Using Walkie-talkie for giving tips to bowlers, is that permitted?
I think yesterday was Nz's national rules violation day

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Using Walkie-talkie for giving tips to bowlers, is that permitted?
I think yesterday was Nz's national rules violation day

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Even the Kiwi commies were irked by that walkie-talkie, some even sarcasticaly said in these days and ages, can't they get some small ear piece rather than using walkie-talkies instead.

They were running on the pitch at will ( pacers ) since first ball for Vettori.
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I am going to take this incident as a show of respect by the Kiwis to our abilities and acknowledgement from their end of Shakib and Mahmadullah as very capable players on the big stage.

The fault really lies with the umpire for being so certain and for Shakib who obviously had a brain fart with the shot and the dismissal following the cramp on his arm.

True NZ (esp. McC) could have been more sportsmanlike but that is what it is. At least now we know that they feel they need to resort to win at any cost against us. Rashid Latif announced BD's arrival a few years ago but it was us who failed to live up to it.

Unless BD shows courtesy by being sportsmanlike in a tough situation similar to this, I'm keeping away from this topic.
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I am going to take this incident as a show of respect by the Kiwis to our abilities and acknowledgement from their end of Shakib and Mahmadullah as very capable players on the big stage.

The fault really lies with the umpire for being so certain and for Shakib who obviously had a brain fart with the shot and the dismissal following the cramp on his arm.

True NZ (esp. McC) could have been more sportsmanlike but that is what it is. At least now we know that they feel they need to resort to win at any cost against us. Rashid Latif announced BD's arrival a few years ago but it was us who failed to live up to it.

Unless BD shows courtesy by being sportsmanlike in a tough situation similar to this, I'm keeping away from this topic.
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I am going to take this incident as a show of respect by the Kiwis to our abilities and acknowledgement from their end of Shakib and Mahmadullah as very capable players on the big stage.

The fault really lies with the umpire for being so certain and for Shakib who obviously had a brain fart with the shot and the dismissal following the cramp on his arm.

True NZ (esp. McC) could have been more sportsmanlike but that is what it is. At least now we know that they feel they need to resort to win at any cost against us. Rashid Latif announced BD's arrival a few years ago but it was us who failed to live up to it.

Unless BD shows courtesy by being sportsmanlike in a tough situation similar to this, I'm keeping away from this topic.
What Raynman said.
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I am going to take this incident as a show of respect by the Kiwis to our abilities and acknowledgement from their end of Shakib and Mahmadullah as very capable players on the big stage.

The fault really lies with the umpire for being so certain and for Shakib who obviously had a brain fart with the shot and the dismissal following the cramp on his arm.

True NZ (esp. McC) could have been more sportsmanlike but that is what it is. At least now we know that they feel they need to resort to win at any cost against us. Rashid Latif announced BD's arrival a few years ago but it was us who failed to live up to it.

Unless BD shows courtesy by being sportsmanlike in a tough situation similar to this, I'm keeping away from this topic.
at last someone with a good judgment and commonsense!
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You are making a mountain out of a molehill.

we all share your frustration, but these incidents in cricket happen; the sooner we grow some backbone the better, it will bode well for supporters and players alike.

Take lead from Riyad's comments at the press conf. But I still think, if Shakib had any doubt, then he should have reffered it, maybe because he lost his cool for a few minutes and completely forgot about the UDRS.

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You are making a mountain out of a molehill.

we all share your frustration, but these incidents in cricket happen; the sooner we grow some backbone the better, it will bode well for supporters and players alike.

Take lead from Riyad's comments at the press conf. But I still think, if Shakib had any doubt, then he should have reffered it, maybe because he lost his cool for a few minutes and completely forgot about the UDRS.

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And you called Rashid Latif a cheat!? Whats wrong with people,Shame.


Cricinfo even talks about it!!!

Martin broke the resistance soon after tea with the second new ball, though replays showed that Shakib's under-edge bounced well short of Brendon McCullum, who claimed the catch instantly. It was an unfortunate end to a special innings
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