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Old April 28, 2010, 09:58 AM
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Default If Zimbabwe can defeat Australia in WU and 2007 T20 WC, why can't we?

According to cricinfo, Zimbabwe defeated the Aussies by 1 run(Would have been more) in a warm up match today. And to think of it Garry expected Aussies to go to win the cup.

Now we should take this as inspiration and look ahead. If Zim can do it why cant we defeat the World ODI Champions. Remember, Zim defeated the Aussies in 2007 WC as well. Now, we are being considered a stronger team as Zim with some training. Now what we just need to concentrate on thrashing on our opponents, no need to look back, just look forward and remember that we too defeated them in 2005.

So its not impossible to defeat both Australia and Pakistan. Infact, we just might go on to winning the World Cup
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:02 AM
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if we can play our game we obviously can beat the hell out of ozies...

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Old April 28, 2010, 10:05 AM
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not possible because the bad day aussies have once a year has gone. so we may defeat aussies again next year if we play them on their bad day.

well the bad day of pakistan may come but it normally comes when they are in the peak of their form. normally when comes into a tournament with lots of problems they play well.

well still i believe its possible to beat both of them but i cant see that happening this WC
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:12 AM
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^^^^ The Aussies are tired, - except Clarke, Paine, Smith, Johnson, Hauritz. Mainly for the IPL. Now with Leee injured and RP not interested to play t20, we can do it.

Still our chances are 40 percent.
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:13 AM
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Cause we can't beat Zim.
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:16 AM
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Cause we can't beat Zim.
Indeed indeed. They're the better team in T20s.
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Old April 29, 2010, 10:17 AM
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Indeed indeed. They're the better team in T20s.
No doubt.
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:19 AM
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Come down to earth my friend. First of all, it was just a practice match. In the real matches they will be more serious and the pace attack will be more vigorous (add Tait,Bollinger). Secondly, we still dont have the ability to beat teams like Australia in the T20s (lack of big hitters).
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:23 AM
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We beat them in an ODI and took them to the wire on a Test so there's no reason to believe we can not beat the Aussies in T20 where the threshold for error is very low and harder to recover.

Its just that many things need to go our way and the Aussie's have to have a sub par day as well.

I hope Siddons and Shakib have taken the time to study this format and understand how to approach it.
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:29 AM
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Aussies have a poor bowling line. If we can take the advantage and be decent in bowling we can beat them. Anything above 170 will be good enough i think
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:35 AM
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People put too much emphasis on the big hitter issue, but seriously the difference between a ball flying 30 rows back and a ball just reaching the boundary is just TWO runs. We might not have big hitters, but we have players who are capable of hitting boundaries, and even if we miss 5 sixes and get 5 fours instead, the difference is just 10 runs. So, lets focus on what we have at the moment and not on what we don't have.
If we have our best day, then we don't need Aussie's worst day to win the game.
*** Our best day, Ash firing, Tamim firing, Shakib's bowling figure 4-0-13-3, Mash's bowling figure 4-1-21-2 etc etc***
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:39 AM
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People put too much emphasis on the big hitter issue, but seriously the difference between a ball flying 30 rows back and a ball just reaching the boundary is just TWO runs. We might not have big hitters, but we have players who are capable of hitting boundaries, and even if we miss 5 sixes and get 5 fours instead, the difference is just 10 runs. So, lets focus on what we have at the moment and not on what we don't have.
If we have our best day, then we don't need Aussie's worst day to win the game.
*** Our best day, Ash firing, Tamim firing, Shakib's bowling figure 4-0-13-3, Mash's bowling figure 4-1-21-2 etc etc***
All thats needed is for getting 180 or 9RR is 1 boundary and 5 singles.

As long as the scoreboard is ticking without wickets falling and the pressure mounts, the additional boundaries and extras will come automatically.

What the team needs to remember is blocking 8/9 balls down to the ground after a few wickets fall does not accomplish anything.
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:49 AM
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People put too much emphasis on the big hitter issue, but seriously the difference between a ball flying 30 rows back and a ball just reaching the boundary is just TWO runs. We might not have big hitters, but we have players who are capable of hitting boundaries, and even if we miss 5 sixes and get 5 fours instead, the difference is just 10 runs. So, lets focus on what we have at the moment and not on what we don't have.
If we have our best day, then we don't need Aussie's worst day to win the game.
*** Our best day, Ash firing, Tamim firing, Shakib's bowling figure 4-0-13-3, Mash's bowling figure 4-1-21-2 etc etc***
That's the spirit. Ofcourse it is not neccessry that we play our best game but just play better
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:49 AM
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According to cricinfo, Zimbabwe defeated the Aussies by 1 run(Would have been more) in a warm up match today. And to think of it Garry expected Aussies to go to win the cup.

Now we should take this as inspiration and look ahead. If Zim can do it why cant we defeat the World ODI Champions. Remember, Zim defeated the Aussies in 2007 WC as well. Now, we are being considered a stronger team as Zim with some training. Now what we just need to concentrate on thrashing on our opponents, no need to look back, just look forward and remember that we too defeated them in 2005.

So its not impossible to defeat both Australia and Pakistan. Infact, we just might go on to winning the World Cup

Because we are not Smart LOTTAs that's why! We are led by a dumb LOTTA!
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:51 AM
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Good question. And people will ask that a lot, if we dont beat the Ozs

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Old April 28, 2010, 10:59 AM
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Good question. And people ask that a lot, if we dont beat the Ozs
5 years since we have defeated the Aussies. I think that incident in Cardiff is like it was a century ago.
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Old April 28, 2010, 11:03 AM
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5 years since we have defeated the Aussies. I think that incident in Cardiff is like it was a century ago.
typo in my post,

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Old April 28, 2010, 10:56 AM
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Also the Zims dont take guest with them, instead of media manager
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Old April 28, 2010, 10:57 AM
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^^^ It is all about the players actually. I agree with you but the fact is that if the cricket board is clean very caring, hard working and not corrupted, it still would not make any differences if the national team is not doing well. If your national team is strong, you will see that even the domestic tournament becomes stronger, key players are asked to play in foreign tournaments, more tours for the team and the cricket board also starts to earn money.

Not much to blame Loitta for the failure of the team, but all our players. We should only blame loitta for the uncertainity in its cricket board.

Anyway, Loitta himself is corrupt
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Old April 28, 2010, 11:00 AM
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what u guys are forgetting is the "panic factor". It is all and well to be "possible" for bangladesh to beat Aussies. But, even if we score 185, with ash, tamim, shakib firing, do u really think we can defend tat total? the bd bowling line is capable, but mentally the bowlers would break, the prospect of the responsibiliy on their shoulder will make them nervous. I really pray this deosnt happen, but mone hocche aitai hobe
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Old April 28, 2010, 11:16 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iVDfVi-luk Shakib on his way to 54 off 29 balls V Aus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM98kbWgL9w Tamim scoring 18 off the first over V Aus.
Just a refresher of what our batsmen are capable of.
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Old April 28, 2010, 11:19 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iVDfVi-luk Shakib on his way to 54 off 29 balls V Aus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM98kbWgL9w Tamim scoring 18 off the first over V Aus.
Just a refresher of what our batsmen are capable of.
Can we get a refresher about the milestones our bowlers acheived in that match? No matter what we score, Aussies will chase it with ease. Face it our bowlers suck.
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Old April 28, 2010, 11:40 AM
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Can we get a refresher about the milestones our bowlers acheived in that match? No matter what we score, Aussies will chase it with ease. Face it our bowlers suck.
Areh Bond bhai, Ash did not bowl that day, BD wanted to have some batting practice and just let Aus score. :P
but on a serious note, if we are to win against Pak or Aus our best bet is to score 180-190. Which means the game must be won while batting, our bowlers are simply not good enough to restrict the opponent in T20s
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Old April 28, 2010, 11:56 AM
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Areh Bond bhai, Ash did not bowl that day, BD wanted to have some batting practice and just let Aus score. :P
but on a serious note, if we are to win against Pak or Aus our best bet is to score 180-190. Which means the game must be won while batting, our bowlers are simply not good enough to restrict the opponent in T20s
haha I like the way you think
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