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Old September 25, 2012, 07:44 PM
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Default Cricinfo- Enough is enough for underachieving Bangladesh

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Enough is enough for underachieving Bangladesh

Bangladesh's players, fans and media have been satisfied with mediocrity for too long. Where is their Tiger Pataudi, or their Arjuna Ranatunga, to drag them out of that mindset?
Abhishek Purohit in Pallekele
September 25, 2012



Spend a day in the streets and restaurants of the teeming cities of Dhaka and Kolkata and you will find out how passionate Bengalis are. Passion is Bengal. Bengal is passion. Throughout history, the land has been at the forefront of revolution, be it nationalistic, linguistic, intellectual. It is time for another revolution to happen in Bangladesh. Of the cricketing kind.
It is time for Bangladeshis to say enough is enough. It is time for them to demand higher standards of a team that has mostly let them down, again and again and again. It is time for them to stop being satisfied with heroic individual performances from Shakib Al Hasan. It is time for them to stop celebrating a rare win over a top side like they have won the World Cup.
Read: http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-worl...ry/584012.html

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Old September 25, 2012, 07:48 PM
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He is talking out of his a**. As if he knows what BD fans want.
Neverless, I am angry at those gutless good-for-nothing morons for giving the cricket world a chance to give us sh*t.
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Old September 25, 2012, 07:53 PM
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That was a joyful article to read.
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Old September 25, 2012, 07:56 PM
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He is talking ou of his a**. As if he knows what BD fans want.
Truth is harsh, some of the things in that article are very true (our players being sissies)
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Old September 25, 2012, 08:05 PM
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Truth is harsh, some of the things in that article are very true (our players being sissies)
I only disagreed to the part where he talked about fans expectation.
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Old September 25, 2012, 08:15 PM
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Yes, the article made some decent points. But I feel it was on the whole a tasteless and opportunistic piece meant to add insult to injury and little else.

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This feeling of inferiority - to call a spade a spade - manifests itself in misplaced aggression in the comments section of ESPNcricinfo articles from Bangladesh fans.
Once again, this doesn't address a) that "misplaced" aggression is almost always AFTER idiotically prejudicial comments from the typical Indopak cricket fan with the odd denigration from whitey Smith thrown in for good measure and b) any self-belief from fans is usually scoffed at as delusion.

According to Purohit's definition our war of independence was also one of "misplaced aggression".

Its been a long time since CI has run a piece this demeaning.
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Old September 25, 2012, 08:26 PM
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Oh boy, that writer had his 'article title' ready to press the 'submit' button for long time.

'Enough is Enough' and that too for a match report ?

Why's that only Indian reporters cover most of our matches ?

Just go through Ireland's/Afgan's match report and then read match report of Bangladesh, instantly you can feel that writers of BD match report have some kind of anguish against BD.
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Just go through Ireland's/Afgan's match report and then read match report of Bangladesh, instantly you can feel that writers of BD match report have some kind of anguish against BD.
When we rollin', they hatin'
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Nowhere in the article I really found something that is any different to what I feel now. May be people here are offended because it came out of an Indian ? Truth hurts.

Why does it so matter that afghans or irish are getting praised and the writer may have some bias towards us. What is important to us is that the kind of progress the afghans or the irish made in recent times is three times the progress we made in 10 years. We have more things to worry about than judge others might have an agenda against us. We had our chance to slap their faces with good performance but we couldn't. It's all us to blame unfortunately.
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Nowhere in the article I really found something that is any different to what I feel now. May be people here are offended because it came out of an Indian ? Truth hurts.

Why does it so matter that afghans or irish are getting praised and the writer may have some bias towards us. What is important to us is that the kind of progress the afghans or the irish made in recent times is three times the progress we made in 10 years. We have more things to worry about than judge others might have an agenda against us. We had our chance to slap their faces with good performance but we couldn't. It's all us to blame unfortunately.
No but by the style of the prose one can guess it was marinating for some time what with idyllic references to passions in "Dhaka" and "Calcutta". What does Calcutta have to do with Bangladesh cricket? Unless its a proactive defense against the feeling that this was an anti-Bangladeshi prejudice piece "Wait, wait, wait, I mentioned Calcutta, so it wasn't just Bangladesh".

I'm trying to figure out when the T20 format took precedence over the fact that our recent ODI record matches quite favorably with that of West Indies and New Zealand or that despite being uncompetitive most of our Tests see umpires trotting to the field on the morning of the 5th day.
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Lack of quality fast bowlers, over-reliance on one brand of spin, talented but unreliable batsmen, poor fielding.
Very well put. We wont progress until these issues are addressed.
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No but by the style of the prose one can guess it was marinating for some time what with idyllic references to passions in "Dhaka" and "Calcutta". What does Calcutta have to do with Bangladesh cricket?
He was merely making the point, through a rhetorical device, that Bengalis, as an ethnic group, are a passionate lot and this is evidenced in our shared history pre-1947 and our distinct history post-1947.
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He was merely making the point, through a rhetorical device, that Bengalis, as an ethnic group, are a passionate lot and this is evidenced in our shared history pre-1947 and our distinct history post-1947.
What are bengalis? Are they like gypsies?
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What are bengalis? Are they like gypsies?
Bengalis in the Anglicized form or 'Bangalees' in our own nomenclature, is what the people of Bangladesh are known as. That is the literal definition. You would know this if you'd ever read the Constitution of the People's Republic of Bangladesh (Article 6(2) if you're interested). It is also what the people of West Bengal and large communities in Assam, Tripura, etc. consider themselves to be.

Revolutions in Kolkata prompted revolutions in the erstwhile Dacca, Assam, etc. and vice versa. Revolutions that started in Park Circus in Kolkata would affect the rights of dock laborers in Chittagong and unrest in Sylhet would affect policy in Kolkata. Again, you'd know this if you'd ever take the time to read about the abolition of permanent settlement and peasant rebellions, the lives of Sher-e-Bangla Fazlul Haq and HM Suhrwardy and contemporaneous labor leaders, the early years of Maulana Bhashani, Bangabandhu, etc.

In sum, as Bangalees have always been at the vanguard of revolutions, the writer was using it as a literary device to call for a revolution in our cricket.
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one side of me says,this is good ,we need all the bashing & criticisms, we deserve it, it's the bitter truth, let our coaches/BCB & some players read this & reply in the field.
But then again this article sounds like coming from a fan (or a negative poster)
It was wrote on a purpose to raise questions about our team etc.
This is like "Dear BD( BD diss)" thread
Even if it was a BDeshi reporter we wouldn't take it positively.

But I'm more annoyed with our so called "tigers" for making opportunities to these reporters for "dissin" us.
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Truth of the matter is, let's wait until the next Test/ODI series against a G8 opponent

I should really Shut my mouth...

jokes aside, we are developing skills but for some reason we are not seeing them being implemented in T20, the boys based on their body language don't seem focused, they seem distracted. they are much much better than this...

We just have to play more tests on a regular basis to make a correct evaluation of Richard Pybus, his policies, strategies and the overall development of players. T20 you need a lot of discipline and concentration, Tests you need a lot of skill, and in ODI's you can sometimes get away with a lapse of concentration, in T20 you can't do that. we paid the price because I personally feel that the boys were distracted, they weren't mentally "in tune" with the situation. I don't really know how else I can explain this...

our lack of firepower in the pace department is a valid citation for poor performance but remember, we have defeated tougher opponents in the past with even weaker pace attack, simply because the boys were more concentrated and more disciplined...
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Fans are no longer satisfied with mediocrity. So what exactly is he asking us to do? Go on the street and start 'misil', like some Indian fans did after India didn't qualify for the 2nd round. We fans can only do one thing, and that is support from the bottom of our heart. We have been doing that, and we will continue to do that even if they get whitewashed by Zambia.
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Wonder if any of our players will read that.
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Wonder if any of our players will read that.
post a link of this to mushfiqur rahim on twitter. I was screaming at mushy to jus give the strike back to shak. Its common sense when one batsmen was playin with such flow u give as much of the strike to him as possible.
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Enough is enough for underachieving Bangladesh

Bangladesh's players, fans and media have been satisfied with mediocrity for too long. Where is their Tiger Pataudi, or their Arjuna Ranatunga, to drag them out of that mindset?
Abhishek Purohit in Pallekele
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Spend a day in the streets and restaurants of the teeming cities of Dhaka and Kolkata and you will find out how passionate Bengalis are. Passion is Bengal. Bengal is passion. Throughout history, the land has been at the forefront of revolution, be it nationalistic, linguistic, intellectual. It is time for another revolution to happen in Bangladesh. Of the cricketing kind.
It is time for Bangladeshis to say enough is enough. It is time for them to demand higher standards of a team that has mostly let them down, again and again and again. It is time for them to stop being satisfied with heroic individual performances from Shakib Al Hasan. It is time for them to stop celebrating a rare win over a top side like they have won the World Cup.
Bangladeshis are fanatical in their love for the game. Just as man has to breathe air to survive, whether it is stale or fresh air, so do Bangladeshis support their cricket team, whether it does well or not. Most of the times, it gets thrashed. But Bangladeshis' support for their "Tigers" does not waver an inch. They have been stoical as long as Bangladesh have been on the international scene. On the very rare occasion, their suppressed pain bursts through, as it did when Bangladesh were dismissed for 58 against West Indies in the 2011 World Cup on home turf in Mirpur. But on the whole, they have celebrated every small achievement. Small is what they have been afforded by their hopelessly underachieving team.
The cricketing reasons can be repeated endlessly. Lack of quality fast bowlers, over-reliance on one brand of spin, talented but unreliable batsmen, poor fielding. In the end, it must come down to that one word. Belief. To an outsider, do Bangladesh believe they can be world beaters? No. Do Bangladesh fans believe they can be world beaters? No. Do Bangladesh media believe they can be world beaters? No.

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I was always against Shakib being Captain because we just can't afford to put more and more pressure on him. Making him captain is just asking too much from him cause he needs to take responsibility of his own game and his team mates' failure too which may result in downfall of his own game.

But looking at Mushy's captaincy and Shakib's previous captaincy record, i tend to believe now Shakib would have been a better choice as a Captain. He has got that mentality and positive attitude which is lacking from rest of the players. His performance would do the talking for others which is absent in the case of Mushy.

Some people are born to be leaders. Shakib is one of them.
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I dont think one has to be an official captain to be a leader... Shakib is not only our best player but also one if the senior players now...

On the field I'd like to see him be a bit more proactive. If anyone feels he is stepping on their toes(Mushy/Riad) he should tell them to piss off.

During the disastrous captaincy spell of Dilshan, Mahela was still very active on the pitch, field placings...talking to bowlers and at times talking to Dilshan about bowling changes and what not.

Shakib is already a leader...he leads through example...but time for him to become more involved without the annoying off field captaincy hassles(mushfiq can have the glory and blame)
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So when is our next series?
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Great read. This is not an "insult," it is the truth.
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