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Old September 27, 2012, 11:43 PM
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Default Cricket's top eight need to be challenged more

BD players those their presence in the team is good for nothing ... are you reading this? Dont you ever say 'on our day we can do jack' type of crap anymore before any big game. Every time you open your mouth saying those crap to media is a disgrace to the team, to the nation, to the fan.

No team in the world will ever wait for 'your day to do jack' once in a blue moon. Keep your sorry butt and mouth busy where it should be.

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Cricket's top eight need to be challenged more

And for all the resources and chances they have got, Bangladesh haven't done it yet
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It took eight days for the World Twenty20 to get to the eight teams we knew would play the next stage. We yearned for the established teams to squirm a bit, maybe even get embarrassed. Why, we wouldn't even have minded if one got knocked out because it would have meant the game had got more competitive. But apart from a tiny little period of play from the spirited Afghans against India, we yearned in vain. There is still no challenge to the established forces, and that isn't great news for a global sport. A hundred countries may play cricket but it is still really only eight.

Of the four countries that made early exits, two (Afghanistan and Ireland) need more cricket and two (Zimbabwe and Bangladesh) need to be challenged.
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Old September 28, 2012, 12:01 AM
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Old September 28, 2012, 12:52 AM
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Thanks Murad for the reminder, completely forgot that copyright implication.
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Old September 28, 2012, 03:18 AM
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Bangladesh can challenge NewZealand and West Indies. All we need is more games against them.
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Old September 28, 2012, 04:14 AM
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This sounds like coming from someone who wants Bangladesh to do well. No ridiculous comment like Bangladeshi fans are satisfied with team's mediocre performance.
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Old September 28, 2012, 11:48 AM
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Indeed top eight tournament need to be challenged more... today it was too easy for Australia...should Mr. Bhogle write about it if not hope any of our BC scholar can reply...
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Old September 28, 2012, 12:03 PM
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India got absolutely trashed by the Aussies.

Dhonis captaincy? He will do things nobody thinks of and when it works people call it brave and when it doesn't, well then things like today happen. Not giving the new ball to Pathan is a joke. Nevertheless, just because India got their backsides whooped doesn't means Harsha and others are not supposed to write or comment on our cricketing state. Just because some other team has sucked doesn't mean we forget that we have been a constant disappointment.
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Old September 28, 2012, 12:05 PM
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Harsha wrote some nice articles after our Asia Cup heroics and he has always encouraged BD cricket.. I think as a true cricket fan he is as pissed as we are atm.. If the same article was written by Isam bhai we wouldn't have said anything. So I think it's not fair to say Harsha is upto something just because he is an Indian.. I think our players deserves these harsh criticism to wake them up.. You might not have the talent but you could at least give your 100% while playing which we don't see in our players.. It's just frustrating to follow BD cricket.. We better accept that..
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Old September 28, 2012, 12:38 PM
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Harsha wrote some nice articles after our Asia Cup heroics and he has always encouraged BD cricket.. I think as a true cricket fan he is as pissed as we are atm.. If the same article was written by Isam bhai we wouldn't have said anything. So I think it's not fair to say Harsha is upto something just because he is an Indian.. I think our players deserves these harsh criticism to wake them up.. You might not have the talent but you could at least give your 100% while which we don't see in our players.. It's just frustrating to follow BD cricket.. We better accept that..
Your last sentence about talent is wrong Sir. Who said our players don't have talent?? So your saying Asia cup and the NZ series was fake? If they weren't talented then they never would've won a game! The problem we all should be worried about is that our players are lazy and don't give 100 percent ALL THE TIME! They sometime do give 100 percent and that is when we win. So let's make Richard bring out the whip on these guys!

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Old September 28, 2012, 12:18 PM
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I agree with the threat part! Perhaps that will spurt the Tutuls of BCB. If they realize that their slush funds might dry up if they don't actually work on the product!
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Old September 28, 2012, 01:19 PM
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We are not consistently and convincingly wining games and that's our problem.
No matter how we look at the reporters' comments, we need to prove them wrong and that is a fact we have to accept.
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Old September 28, 2012, 01:24 PM
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We are consistently inconsistent
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Old September 28, 2012, 02:17 PM
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Looks like Harsha needs to change his article to "top seven needs more competition"
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Old September 28, 2012, 02:31 PM
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^^ The same team bowled England, the reigning T20 champions, out for 80 a couple of days ago. Swings and roundabouts when it comes to the G8.

I don't see how the NZ series shows our 'team' has talent. The NZ series was practically a one-man show with contributions from Rubel. The Asia Cup was definitely the best overall team performance (barring Shahadat and Nazimuddin)
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Old September 28, 2012, 06:24 PM
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a few players are missing to make our team competative. We need a dale steyn type bowler as shakib mentioned. Need a watson type bowler and batsmen, need good fielders who give 100% like warner, need a genuine spinner perhaps ajmal, narine (mystery) type, and an Amla/kohli type of batsmen who play risk free but effective cricket. The chances of players like this emerging i rekon is still quite a long way away from bangladesh cricket. So in short term we will remain uncompetitive, but in the distant future this may change, but is this going to be too long a wait for our critics and fans alike?
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Old September 28, 2012, 07:15 PM
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a few players are missing to make our team competative. We need a dale steyn type bowler as shakib mentioned. Need a watson type bowler and batsmen, need good fielders who give 100% like warner, need a genuine spinner perhaps ajmal, narine (mystery) type, and an Amla/kohli type of batsmen who play risk free but effective cricket. The chances of players like this emerging i rekon is still quite a long way away from bangladesh cricket. So in short term we will remain uncompetitive, but in the distant future this may change, but is this going to be too long a wait for our critics and fans alike?
I think BD only need commitment from the players, that is it. Some things seems not right now. I agree wholeheartedly what Shakib said. If the fielding improves and people are live wire in the middle every one would be inspired. I still remember Ash's dance and shout against IRE,it was funny I agree, but that somehow changed the direction of the game.
We have enough talented players just need to execute better. Start with fielding.
I mean as a fan I become inspired when I see great fielding from our players why wouldn't Bowlers be inspired looking at the great stop or a good dive by our fielders.
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Old September 28, 2012, 07:22 PM
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We need a dale steyn type bowler as shakib mentioned. Need a watson type bowler and batsmen, need good fielders who give 100% like warner, need a genuine spinner perhaps ajmal, narine (mystery) type, and an Amla/kohli type of batsmen who play risk free but effective cricket.
We desperately need this type of players. Anamul and Mominul are the closest things to a Kohli at this point in time. Where is a pace bowler going to emerge from? When is this Watson type batsmen going to play for BD? Face it theres still a long way way to go to achieve all this.
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Old September 28, 2012, 09:04 PM
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We desperately need this type of players. Anamul and Mominul are the closest things to a Kohli at this point in time. Where is a pace bowler going to emerge from? When is this Watson type batsmen going to play for BD? Face it theres still a long way way to go to achieve all this.
That's why Anamul and Mominul should be selected for the WI series. We need to bring in some new blood to challenge our starters. And as for the "Watson" type player you're asking for, Soumya Sarkar seems to be the guy that matches Watson for us. Opens the batting plus is a decent pacer. Obviously that would be a huge ask for him being like Watson but hopefully he can eventually become a good player for us.
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Old September 28, 2012, 10:31 PM
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That's why Anamul and Mominul should be selected for the WI series. We need to bring in some new blood to challenge our starters. And as for the "Watson" type player you're asking for, Soumya Sarkar seems to be the guy that matches Watson for us. Opens the batting plus is a decent pacer. Obviously that would be a huge ask for him being like Watson but hopefully he can eventually become a good player for us.
Soumya is way too inconsistent. But if he rectifies it then he can be something
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That's why Anamul and Mominul should be selected for the WI series. We need to bring in some new blood to challenge our starters. And as for the "Watson" type player you're asking for, Soumya Sarkar seems to be the guy that matches Watson for us. Opens the batting plus is a decent pacer. Obviously that would be a huge ask for him being like Watson but hopefully he can eventually become a good player for us.
Watson is the MVP in limited overs cricket and in t20's he is miles ahead of anyone else when it comes to batting bowling plus fielding. Soumya Sarkar can come close to matching watson only in his dream.. lol
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Old September 29, 2012, 11:27 AM
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Watson is the MVP in limited overs cricket and in t20's he is miles ahead of anyone else when it comes to batting bowling plus fielding. Soumya Sarkar can come close to matching watson only in his dream.. lol
I knew someone would misunderstand me. Please read again. I'm NOT saying Soumya will become as good as Watson. I said they have similarities with the way he also opens the batting and is a part time seamer. That's where the similarities end. Of course that's a huge ask for Soumya to become as good as Watson and I'm not expecting him to be. I would just be happy with him becoming a regular for us in the top order.

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Old September 28, 2012, 09:41 PM
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We desperately need this type of players. Anamul and Mominul are the closest things to a Kohli at this point in time.
Kholi and Anamul/Mominul shouldn't be used even in the same sentence. Kholi made his mark from U19 days. He's stock's only been going up since he started playing for India and from the look of it it ain't about to stop anytime soon. We have yet to see Anamul/Mominul play any 'proper' cricket, all we have are just some stats to go by. From stats we definitely have reason's to be hopeful that these 2 guys have the potential make an impact, but to go as far as saying closet thing to kholi is going way way over the line. Even if we put 11 BD batsman's all together we still wouldn't have the closest thing to kholi.
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Kholi and Anamul/Mominul shouldn't be used even in the same sentence. Kholi made his mark from U19 days. He's stock's only been going up since he started playing for India and from the look of it it ain't about to stop anytime soon. We have yet to see Anamul/Mominul play any 'proper' cricket, all we have are just some stats to go by. From stats we definitely have reason's to be hopeful that these 2 guys have the potential make an impact, but to go as far as saying closet thing to kholi is going way way over the line. Even if we put 11 BD batsman's all together we still wouldn't have the closest thing to kholi.
Agreed. I'd be just happy if Anamul/Mominul become 1st choice starters for us or contribute the way Nasir has. That would be a huge step for us since we rely so much on Tamim and Shakib. Kohli's just a freak of a talent. Forget about us, no other team has such a young batsman that has been that prolific. He could become of the greats in the game with the way he's going.
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Old September 28, 2012, 10:29 PM
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Kholi and Anamul/Mominul shouldn't be used even in the same sentence. Kholi made his mark from U19 days.
What about Anamul?

My point is Anamul and Mominul are our best hope of something good. So i just used the term Kohli. Who else are we looking to do become world class?
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Old September 29, 2012, 12:10 AM
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What about Anamul?

My point is Anamul and Mominul are our best hope of something good. So i just used the term Kohli. Who else are we looking to do become world class?
do you think the current A team matches should be any sort of factor for their selection? they haven't exactly scored a lot of runs so far, mominul has done alright though, but anamul has struggled to get runs.
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