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Old December 28, 2012, 04:07 AM
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Default Who are most over-rated & under-rated cricketers of BD?

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Old December 28, 2012, 04:17 AM
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You mention first.
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Old December 28, 2012, 04:22 AM
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I think under-rated is nazmul. Over rated may be ashraful?
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Old December 28, 2012, 05:36 AM
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Overrated:
Ashraful - there are still people who think he has 'talent', despite all the 'ash bash' here .
Nazmul Hossain - Like him, but feel he's a tad overrated here since he's overlooked by BCB.
Rafique - I know he meant a lot to BD when he played etc. - but still a tad overrated.

Underrated:
Riyad - Partly himself to blame since he played some 'selfish' knocks. But I don't think many still regard him as a good potential #3 as I do.
Shafiul - his ability as a swing/seam bowler is underrated here IMO.
Mosharaff Hossain - why doesn't anyone talk of him at all? He performs consistently even more than Enamul Jr. probably.
Jahirul Islam - another player whom I see as a fine prospect
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Old December 29, 2012, 12:28 AM
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Overrated:
Ashraful - there are still people who think he has 'talent', despite all the 'ash bash' here .
Nazmul Hossain - Like him, but feel he's a tad overrated here since he's overlooked by BCB.
Rafique - I know he meant a lot to BD when he played etc. - but still a tad overrated.

Underrated:
Riyad - Partly himself to blame since he played some 'selfish' knocks. But I don't think many still regard him as a good potential #3 as I do.
Shafiul - his ability as a swing/seam bowler is underrated here IMO.
Mosharaff Hossain - why doesn't anyone talk of him at all? He performs consistently even more than Enamul Jr. probably.
Jahirul Islam - another player whom I see as a fine prospect
i was really disappointed when Mosharraf Rubel went to ICL. i had high hopes in him and still have. he got a 5fer in the BCL match and i hope he will get into the reckoning of selectors soon.
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Old December 29, 2012, 01:55 PM
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What is your criteria for rating the players? It is not clear at all.

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Overrated:
Ashraful - there are still people who think he has 'talent', despite all the 'ash bash' here .
Nazmul Hossain - Like him, but feel he's a tad overrated here since he's overlooked by BCB.
Rafique - I know he meant a lot to BD when he played etc. - but still a tad overrated.

Underrated:
Riyad - Partly himself to blame since he played some 'selfish' knocks. But I don't think many still regard him as a good potential #3 as I do.
Shafiul - his ability as a swing/seam bowler is underrated here IMO.
Mosharaff Hossain - why doesn't anyone talk of him at all? He performs consistently even more than Enamul Jr. probably.
Jahirul Islam - another player whom I see as a fine prospect
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Old December 28, 2012, 04:34 AM
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Over or underrated by whom and in terms of what? Fans here in BC or selectors? In terms of expectation translating into international performance? How realistic are those expectations in the first place?
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Old December 28, 2012, 07:25 AM
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Rafique was overrated??? you mean as a bowler? I can't believe this,man!
To me,rafique was the only internationally recognised bd bowler in our first 7 years of test cricket.
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Old December 28, 2012, 08:11 AM
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Imrul Kayes to me is underrated by everyone. He is a flop in tests but in ODIs i think he is worthy enough to be in the team. He is clearly an ODI specialist. Dont forget he was our MVP during the World Cup. I think in ODIs we should get rid off Naeem Islam and place Anamul at #3 with Imrul opening with Tamim.

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Old December 28, 2012, 08:27 AM
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Rafique was overrated??? you mean as a bowler? I can't believe this,man!
To me,rafique was the only internationally recognised bd bowler in our first 7 years of test cricket.
you know what? imho. Rafique was underrated..

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Old December 28, 2012, 08:52 AM
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Rafique was overrated??? you mean as a bowler? I can't believe this,man!
To me,rafique was the only internationally recognised bd bowler in our first 7 years of test cricket.
This kinda proves my point doesn't it? Rafique is really underrated outside BC, but here he's overrated IMO.
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Old December 28, 2012, 10:44 AM
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This kinda proves my point doesn't it? Rafique is really underrated outside BC, but here he's overrated IMO.
Outside BC! Where is that place?.. Nursery/KG gulli schools or any other foreign forums you are referring there. If you dont know Rafique then IMHO you know nothing about BC, as simple as that.

As for OP, Whole Bangladesh team is IMO under-rated. Nearly all current BD players playing much more positive cricket then past is true, but in past generation no matter how many matches we lost, players like bulbul, suman, rafique, sujon, durjoy, pilot, atahar etc all played with enough passion & were devoted Bangladeshi cricketers comprise all stints that encourages to grow these breed of cricket interested new gens today. No points in rating them now.
Although we got only a handful number of players got chance to play county cricket or foreign leagues. But being an immature side, BD players atm playing very good and IMO raters not counting them because not all of them are celebrities yet.
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Old December 28, 2012, 12:08 PM
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Outside BC! Where is that place?.. Nursery/KG gulli schools or any other foreign forums you are referring there. If you dont know Rafique then IMHO you know nothing about BC, as simple as that.
Jesus Christ, read my post properly dude I said he's very underrated outside BC. You know, like rest of the world outside this forum. What are you even trying to say?

BD players are underrated in general, agree with that BTW.
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Old December 29, 2012, 04:05 AM
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Jesus Christ, read my post properly dude I said he's very underrated outside BC. You know, like rest of the world outside this forum. What are you even trying to say?

BD players are underrated in general, agree with that BTW.
o allah! thats pretty bad generalised view for "rest of the world outside BC".
What I tried to hint you, not to derail this tread into Who is/was more over-rated Shakib/Rafique? - kinda topic here. Because time, team combo, expectation, number of matches, fan-base achievment nothing will favour none of them to lead.
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Old December 28, 2012, 12:34 PM
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This kinda proves my point doesn't it? Rafique is really underrated outside BC, but here he's overrated IMO.
I wholeheartedly agree that rafique was over rated. yes , he was the best bowler we had but that's mainly due to the horrendous quality of bowlers surrounding him. but we Bangladeshis made him sound like one of the best in the world , but in all honesty he won't make any other test team in that period.

he still was a great bowler , best in Bangladesh but still overrated
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Old December 28, 2012, 01:32 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree that rafique was over rated. yes , he was the best bowler we had but that's mainly due to the horrendous quality of bowlers surrounding him. but we Bangladeshis made him sound like one of the best in the world , but in all honesty he won't make any other test team in that period.

he still was a great bowler , best in Bangladesh but still overrated
What I've been saying really
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Old December 28, 2012, 10:36 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree that rafique was over rated. yes , he was the best bowler we had but that's mainly due to the horrendous quality of bowlers surrounding him. but we Bangladeshis made him sound like one of the best in the world , but in all honesty he won't make any other test team in that period.

he still was a great bowler , best in Bangladesh but still overrated
oh really? Except aus,lanka and india, he would have easily make the rest of test teams in that period..
And oh, do you know the funny part about your post? This is the same lame excuse that people (outside of bc and bd) show while critisizing shakib that he looks like a best allrounder of the world because he plays for a low ranked team and he dosenot have quality player around him..

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Old December 28, 2012, 11:25 PM
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oh really? Except aus,lanka and india, he would have easily make the rest of test teams in that period..

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Not really. He'd have struggled to make it to SA and Pakistan too.
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Old December 28, 2012, 09:53 AM
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Overrated:
1. Ashraful
2. Alok
3. Nazimuddin
4. Abul
5. Shahadat

Underrated:
1. Enamul Jnr.
2. Nannu
3. Nazmul
4. Jahurul
5. Marshall Ayub
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Old December 28, 2012, 10:16 AM
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Overrated:
Ashraful
Alok
Shahadat
Razzak
Junaid


Underrated:
Ashraful
Zia
Abul
Dhiman
Jahirul
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Old December 28, 2012, 10:18 AM
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To some extent Tamim is pretty-overrated!

Have not seen a Match winning performance by Him for long time... With his so (Called *Big Hitter Tag*)

players like Jesse Ryder is Much better Than Tamim Iqbal!
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Old December 28, 2012, 10:44 AM
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To early to rate any player under 25.
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Old December 28, 2012, 10:46 AM
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To early to rate any player under 25.
agree. also for those who haven't played for nats team.


open a similar type of thread in couple yrs time, you'll see same ppl chosing different players
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Old December 29, 2012, 01:07 PM
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To early to rate any player under 25.
Kohli is way under 25. (I know he is not from BD, but some players do blossom early.)
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Old December 28, 2012, 10:47 AM
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Underrated - Shakib in the World of Cricket. I remember in the World T20 preview on Sky Sports that Mike Atherton and his fellow panel saying Shakib is NOT an all-rounder and something is WRONG with those all-round rankings. Apart from a few experts like Ramiz Raja, Sunil Gavaskar etc the rest of the experts especially those from England and Australia have biased views to not only Bangladesh but especially to its top players like Shakib.

Overrated - Probably Tamim Iqbal. He's basically inconsistent just like Ashraful and hasn't scored a 100 for over 2 years. Has the talent but talent alone is not good enough to get recognition.
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