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Old August 2, 2004, 06:59 AM
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Default Bring back Minazul Abedin for champions trophy

Minazul Abedin who played in 99 World Cup should be bought back to bat in the middle order and lend his experience in batting english conditions before.

He can't do anyworse!! It will give Kapali or someone else a bit of a rest.????
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Old August 2, 2004, 11:55 AM
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Why stop there? Put in Faruque Ahmed at number 3.
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Old August 2, 2004, 12:42 PM
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We need Akram Khan...although he was an average player bearing in mind his outstanding size, he was nevetheless an excellent dictator on and off the field, which allowed the players to focus.

That is a true leaership role played out by Big Akram and it would be useful to bring him back....

+ point..it would be hard to get him out as well...since the ball would either get stuck in his stomach ...or he would either smash them away, as he is or was our only true big hitter, something we fans are dying to see more of...like Englands Flintoff....
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Old August 2, 2004, 12:50 PM
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Bringing back those guys won't slove any problem.
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Old August 2, 2004, 02:06 PM
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Bringing back those guys won't slove any problem.
But it may bring back the dictatorship a captain must have, which Bashar has not been showing both on and off the field.

He has admitted to not playing to his potential, but he must show more of a leadership than he currently is showing.

If this is the best he is can show then we should consider someone else, either Mashud again?
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Old August 2, 2004, 02:23 PM
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Nice going guys.
I've yet to hear complains about Bashar's leadership or onfield captaincy unless you say he failed to motivate and bring out the best from his men. His test performance is still way above the rest and his odi performance was never good enough.

We want steady supply of more runs from these boys. They need more batting training, both specialised and routine. Leadership is not a problem at this point IMHO.
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Old August 2, 2004, 02:31 PM
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How about opening the bowling with Golam Nawsher Prince and Hasibul Hossain Shanto, with Dipu Roy Chowdhury as a fiery (if just a tad fatter) change bowler? Now that is a lineup sure to send shivers down the opposition's spine!

Look forward, folks.
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Old August 2, 2004, 02:33 PM
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Nice going guys.
I've yet to hear complains about Bashar's leadership or onfield captaincy unless you say he failed to motivate and bring out the best from his men. His test performance is still way above the rest and his odi performance was never good enough.

We want steady supply of more runs from these boys. They need more batting training, both specialised and routine. Leadership is not a problem at this point IMHO.
You are r.......chinaman
Bashar is the man who have get 2074 runs in test.
He also best cap.... for bangladesh.
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Old August 2, 2004, 02:40 PM
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I accept that Nannu, Aminul and co were given the boot too early. They should have hing around for a couple of more years. Having gone down the wrong road, it makes even less sense now to go back and make another mistake.

We are stuck with the current crop of players for better or for worse in the near term. Looking back will not do anyone any good.
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Old August 2, 2004, 03:01 PM
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How about opening the bowling with Golam Nawsher Prince and Hasibul Hossain Shanto, with Dipu Roy Chowdhury as a fiery (if just a tad fatter) change bowler? Now that is a lineup sure to send shivers down the opposition's spine!

Look forward, folks.
what about the fastest bowler of Bangladesh : Ziaul Islam Masud........
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Old August 2, 2004, 03:12 PM
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How about opening the bowling with Golam Nawsher Prince and Hasibul Hossain Shanto, with Dipu Roy Chowdhury as a fiery (if just a tad fatter) change bowler? Now that is a lineup sure to send shivers down the opposition's spine!

Look forward, folks.
what about the fastest bowler of Bangladesh : Ziaul Islam Masud........
What about the fast bowler of bd:Mashrafe Mortaza (Kowshik)
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Old August 2, 2004, 03:41 PM
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Mashrafe is currently recovering from the injury so he would be very rusty and would need to gain back match fitnes as well as experience level.

We should keep current crop of fast bowlers, but as for sustaining the middle order we might need experienced players to be the backbone for the team.
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Old August 2, 2004, 03:49 PM
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Who is Ziaul Islam Masud and how fast is he???
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Old August 2, 2004, 03:56 PM
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I think he is a member of our site He just wants to keep his ID secret because he will get mobbed innit sports_fan_bd? However, I may be wrong.


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Who is Ziaul Islam Masud and how fast is he???
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Old August 2, 2004, 04:53 PM
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Who is Ziaul Islam Masud and how fast is he???
Masud was a former right hand medium pace bowler of BD national team. The last time I saw him play for Dhaka Mohamedan in Dhaka league in late 80's(if my memory doesn't betray me). He was a bald headed decent medium fast with less focused among the then national players.

Masud's Stats:

ICC Trophy Career Batting and Fielding (1979)
M I NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct
4 3 1 27 15* 13.50 0 0 1

ICC Trophy Career Bowling (1979)

Balls Mdns Runs Wkts BB Ave 4wI 5wI SRate Econ
222 7 102 5 2-17 20.40 0 0 44.40 2.75
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Old August 3, 2004, 01:22 AM
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We need those trio (Bulbul, Akram, Nannu) to return to the national team as batting advisers.

Bulbul is currently in Australia, Akram stays in Chittagong (probably) most of his times that when he's not playing cricket, and Nannu is busy with his cricket academy (probably).

What we need, is for them to just sit somewhere once a week when the national team is not on a tour, and just have a nice chat with the national players, - you know, just say hi, how things were before, and now how things are now, what kind of difficulties that they used to face, and the difficulties that the current players are facing, how to get rid of these difficulties, give their 'friendly' suggestions etc.

It is not only them, but also the other players who have played Test cricket - like Enamul Haque Moni, Naimur Rahman Durjoy to just come and have a chit-chat with the current players once a month, if not once a week.

But the main question is, who will arrange this? The board? They'd probably say - Khaya Daya kam nai, khamakha jhamela. So may be it could be a voluntary thing to do?
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Old August 3, 2004, 01:44 AM
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I have to agree with most of you who are against bringing back the likes of Bulbul, Nannu, Akram, etc. I do agree that they were forced to retire a tad early, especially with the nascent state of our development as far as the game is concerned. I also must add that their performance was not much different from the showing of our present players, hence, I feel, it is fruitless to even talk about the foregone stars of our team. If we must bring some of the more seasoned players back in contention for the national squad, players like Mehrab Hussain, Al Shehriar, Mohammad Sharif, Hasib-ul-Hussain come to mind, of course they all need a full fledged rehabilitation program to even be considered for the A team.

fwullah... I couldn't add more to your thoughts, but someone has to take the initiative, since the word "volunteer" is not so commonly used in our culture.
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Old August 3, 2004, 04:25 AM
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Default Aminul, Minhazul

It is true Akram has retired officiallyand in no mood to return and ouot of practice. Nannu has officially retired from ODI but expressed his desire to play test. Aminul did not retire at all. Both Aminul and Nannu are inform. Nannu was the highest scorer in the CCL and Aminul is playing in Australia. I am sure they will be more than happy to joint the national team if asked to. this is not a long term solution. But we need some pride back in the short term. please let us not fool ourselves with too many teen age sensations. I am sure they can not do worse than Faisal and Alok etc. Their foot work and shot selection were no worse. And I am sure they played with more responsibility and pride than Bashar. It is no shame to acknoledge mistakes and learn from Kenya.
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Old August 3, 2004, 05:05 AM
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What we need, is for them to just sit somewhere once a week when the national team is not on a tour, and just have a nice chat with the national players...... may be it could be a voluntary thing to do?
Good idea.. that u said our team needs direct inputs/guidance from these experienced seniors. I also think it will be very valuable for the newcomers as these seniors know very well the technical/mental weaknesses of players from our country.

But it can't be done in a casual/voluntary fashion .. rather shud be an official part of the training program.

like ... mayb... the way Bob Woolmer decided to incorporate Miandad in the coaching of PAK team after he was appointed.
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Old August 3, 2004, 05:27 AM
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Sasharif,

I totally agree with your remarks. I could not have expalined it better.

May i also add it is players like Nannu, Bulbul that played their guts out in the ICC Trophy to eventually get BD Test Status.

[Edited on 3-8-2004 by SHISH AHMED]
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Old August 3, 2004, 07:31 AM
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It is true Akram has retired officiallyand in no mood to return and ouot of practice. Nannu has officially retired from ODI but expressed his desire to play test. Aminul did not retire at all. Both Aminul and Nannu are inform. Nannu was the highest scorer in the CCL and Aminul is playing in Australia. I am sure they will be more than happy to joint the national team if asked to. this is not a long term solution. But we need some pride back in the short term. please let us not fool ourselves with too many teen age sensations. I am sure they can not do worse than Faisal and Alok etc. Their foot work and shot selection were no worse. And I am sure they played with more responsibility and pride than Bashar. It is no shame to acknoledge mistakes and learn from Kenya.
Not a bad idea, for a short time solution.
what was Aminuls performance just before he dropped? was bad as I recall.
And what is his performance at the moment?
I dont know but, bring him back could be interesting. As long as we have to do something!

[Edited on 3-8-2004 by PoorFan]
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Old August 3, 2004, 07:34 AM
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Now whare is Aminuls? what he do?
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Old August 3, 2004, 07:39 AM
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Default Aminul

Aminul is in Australia now. I only know of his 2 recent scores in victorian league, 52 and not out 38. Not sure about the other scores.
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Old August 3, 2004, 07:50 AM
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in his last ODI he scored 31 runs in 42 balls against Pakistan and BD manged to score 220 runs. Remember those days when Atahar, Aminul, minhazul, Akram palyed together and BD used to score between 190 - 230 regularly. And now our score is between 130-180.
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Old August 3, 2004, 07:52 AM
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Aminul is in Australia now. I only know of his 2 recent scores in victorian league, 52 and not out 38. Not sure about the other scores.
Seems good, but need more information to convince.
Atleast better than most of our top order!
Thank you sasharif.
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