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Old May 20, 2010, 01:03 PM
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Old May 20, 2010, 01:15 PM
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sorry for butting in. according to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad, images of Muhammad weren't always considered blasphemous and there have been many muslims who have painted him.
It is wiki. Not authentic by any means. When did Muhammad drink Alcohol? Astagfirullah.

Persians were idol worshippers. Dipiction originating from them is a no surprize. I ask you not to go by all these websites to understand and follow Islam. Go by the Quran. To completely understand the message seek to the Being who gives the knowledge first place and be patient.
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Old May 20, 2010, 01:43 PM
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I apologize in advance if I hurt any feelings or sensitivities, but in my humble opinion, drawing or depicting the image of the prophet should actually give the 'human' face necessary to avoid worship. I am not talking about this Facebook thing. I am speaking in general. Islam wants us to recognize him as a human, and I find it insulting that God has enough faith in us, that just a depiction would cause us to abandon him and worship his prophet. Art leads to an enlightened society. Just look back at dark ages Europe and what art and literature in subsequent ages did for the age of enlightenment. The stagnation of Islamic world/culture has been too long.
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I'm not going by anything, it's just another datapoint.

I last read the koran ten years back, I don't remember anything about this topic from it after all this time.
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Old May 20, 2010, 01:46 PM
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I apologize in advance if I hurt any feelings or sensitivities, but in my humble opinion, drawing or depicting the image of the prophet should actually give the 'human' face necessary to avoid worship. I am not talking about this Facebook thing. I am speaking in general. Islam wants us to recognize him as a human, and I find it insulting that God has enough faith in us, that just a depiction would cause us to abandon him and worship his prophet. Art leads to an enlightened society. Just look back at dark ages Europe and what art and literature in subsequent ages did for the age of enlightenment. The stagnation of Islamic world/culture has been too long.
thats why Quran doesnt forbid it. To be more precise it was law passed on by the Ottoman Empire.

Its a hadith (tradition), most problems in the Islamic world stem from Hadith.
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Old May 20, 2010, 01:55 PM
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I would say the biggest problem right now is the wahabi thugs in Saudi and their chamchas in Pakiland.
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Old May 20, 2010, 03:41 PM
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I apologize in advance if I hurt any feelings or sensitivities, but in my humble opinion, drawing or depicting the image of the prophet should actually give the 'human' face necessary to avoid worship. I am not talking about this Facebook thing. I am speaking in general. Islam wants us to recognize him as a human, and I find it insulting that God has enough faith in us, that just a depiction would cause us to abandon him and worship his prophet. Art leads to an enlightened society. Just look back at dark ages Europe and what art and literature in subsequent ages did for the age of enlightenment. The stagnation of Islamic world/culture has been too long.
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I would say the biggest problem right now is the wahabi thugs in Saudi and their chamchas in Pakiland.
I whole heartedly agree with everything , everything you said up there in both posts Beamer bhai!

And I also think the general common society of Al-Islam needs to do serious re-interpretation of themselves and what truly Al-Islam means and filter out all the bad and wrongfully added, implied ideas, concepts, rituals and ideologies that had been created by special interest groups over the hundreds of years for their own benifit. These people, these so called masked Islam practicioners are the real threats to this grand concept of peace, serenity and spiritual enlightenment that Al-Islam conveys.

But I also feel that (no matter how much they or a screaming voice said, "this is freedom of speech" ) when anyone who just want to instigate a sensitive corner of someone ele's very very delicate faith, that is for pure hatefulness, that is no freedom of Speech! We live in a world today, where we denounce and punish making, using, promoting child pornography. Now how about I go around instead of using real human children in film but rather draw or create adult comics depicting children and adults engaged in inappropriate relationship! Wouldn't I be denounced and punished (I am not sure what the law is for drawing, painting child pornography) , shouldn't I be isolated and incarcerated by this society, my civil society to punish me, denounce me? I think so! I think I should be punished as I am doing something that is wrong in the sense of instigating, invoking a desire of wrongdoing, harming the physical/emotional security of a child, even though through drawing, but I am engaging in the prolifiration of child pornography. Now I can't use this freedom of speech BS in here, and I can not scream at the world, the society saying "hey, I was not engaging a real child in here, I was just drawing, where is my freedom of speech?"

If that is true then, this also must be true from a simple, pure logical view, that pathetic talentless, gift-less, nothing else better to say, BS so called film-maker is just trying too hard to get very cheap attention. Why? Why fraking with some people's deeply rooted delicate faith about their prophet never being depicted for their own deep religious ideas, this idea that they cherish with so much emotion and value, why fudging with that unless you do not have some cheap evil, hateful intention of hurting another's feeling!!! These faithful Moslems who for no other reason, never crossed your path, said nothing to you and as far as I can see are not offending anyone else's faith, whatever faith anyone else or no faith that may be, then Why would you go and stick your dirty finger in the backside those otherwise minding their own business individuals? That is not fracking freedom of speech! That is simply cheap stiring of controversies, simply trying to create cheap effect of something out of nothing just to get a few days worth of media attention when the so called artists/film-makers have no talent or anything really interesting to say, Period.
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Nicely said BK bhai, passed on.
Thank you Purbasha Pronob bhai dost!!

And yes, also just because some idiot, cup-cake made a film or made a project out of mocking or childishly ridicule this religion, my religion, it does NOT mean now I need to go out there and hurt this guy!! That attitude alone represents the most primitive and shamful, disgusting of a human nature that I am most ashamed of, disgusted about. What is this nonsense business of puting a number or a target on a man's head who somehow ridiculed our religion. We need to flush this nonsense thought process out and rather be aligned with divinity and just reject the moron/stupid's work and product and shrug this sh!t off! We need to learn to move on and start taking it very seriously on how we portray ourselves, how our rational thought process is working and how we are reacting with the rest of the society. But this "hey they made a joke out of our prophet, let's lynch them" attitude/behaviour is the most undignified, shameful thing that we portray to the rest of the world and the society, This must stop.. We are better than that and stronger than that and we know the time has changed and, we can take a joke, Inshallah, Mashallah!

Also a thing or two about the North (Scandinavian) and West European countries.. The last decade or so they changed, they became more and more conservative and right-wing and the Liberals are constantly being defeated. It also shows a shift in the society, You have that Zerkosy guy (this dude could be from Oklahoma or Texas all we know) crazy on the French Moslem Women's head-gear covering/hijab?Nikab? issue and banning it, that is so childish of France, waht a joke and a joker. We moticed a rise of this kind of film-maker, artists from these parts and it is funny because I expected far better fropm these west Europe and scandinavian societies. Wouldn't I shoudn't I expect from these societies and groups of people more of an outcry for the peaceful and rightful rights of any ethnic or religious groups in the world? It was natural that we expect better from societies, I actually always expected these European societies to support concepts like we should be more understanding toward human feelings, emotions than some very incorrectly constructed, defined bull sh!t values/laws, in this case, "oh, we can not stop anyone from showing this offending film because it violates his freedom of speach"! I think back in the 70's the European nations, especially west and north were much more liberal, accepting of greater human values and rights than the last decade or so! The last dacade or so, I see a connection/parallel rise of Osama, AlQuida, The right wings in the U. S. and the GOPs , the rise of the right wingers in W and North Europe, Bushies, Gunz, violance, Corporate whoring, screw the environment, who cares kind of, big banks (Citi, chase, BOA), made in China poison and keeping Tibet, all together! I see them all working together! I mean this very evil circle!
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The way I see it / such incident is 'greed' from both side...

Greed for attention in this life to some, and same greed for attention life after to some. Very well said BK & Nafi.
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thats why Quran doesnt forbid it. To be more precise it was law passed on by the Ottoman Empire.

Its a hadith (tradition), most problems in the Islamic world stem from Hadith.
From where did you learn the details of Salat brother? Al-Quraan said the basic of it. But the details came through Hadith.

Allah's own words about following the Prophet as guide
“Say (O Muhammad!): "O mankind! I am sent unto you all as the apostle of Allah to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He that gives both life and death. So, believe in Allah and His apostle the unlettered Prophet who believed in Allah and His words: follow him so that you may be guided."” Q7:158.

Allah says: "You have indeed in the Apostle of Allah a beautiful pattern of (conduct) for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day and who engages much in the praise of Allah." Q 33:21.
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, You have that Zerkosy guy (this dude could be from Oklahoma or Texas all we know) crazy on the French Moslem Women's head-gear covering/ Nikab? (veil) issue and banning it, that is so childish of France, waht a joke and a joker.
I agree with Zarkozy, veils are unacceptable in western soceity.

If you dont want to be seen at all, stay in the house.
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From where did you learn the details of Salat brother? Al-Quraan said the basic of it. But the details came through Hadith.
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Im talking about false hadith. eg stoning apostates/adulterers/rape victims/ homosexuals, advocating paedophilla, oppression of women

PS: we dont know which hadith are authentic or not.

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SALAT IN QURAN

[this article only details the practice of Salat in Quran]
The act of communicating with a deity
[as an appeal / help or in adoration or as repentance or thanksgiving]

Acts of worship:
Christians bow their heads and fold their hands.
Native Americans regard dancing as a form of prayer.
Muslims kneel and prostate in obedience to their Holy Book whose author is God.
Other Muslim Sufis whirl.
Hindus sing mantras.
Jews and Muslims sway their bodies back and forth while reciting respective Holy Books.

The Muslim prayer: - Qur’anic perspective
Muslims when in prayer follow the prophet’s [pbuh] example of prayer. He was in direct communication with Allah, as he prayed in Kaba at Mecca, other places and privately. He as the Imam of the time was followed. His successors at times replaced the prophet [pbuh] as Imam during his absence due to illness, travel etc. Any deviation from the prophet’s [pbuh] standard was immediately corrected and today’s Sunnah / practice is that any deviation is immediately corrected by the worshippers who follow the Imam in any mosque. Thus, this [Holy House] format of Salat is Sunnah / practice and detailed in actual actions.
Members of mankind visiting the Holy Kaba should copy this format as instructed in the Qur’an [2:125].
The origin of this Sunnah is the manner Abraham [pbuh] was instructed by Allah. This reason being Abraham is given the Title of Imam.

Sura2 Aya124 – 125 [explains gestures / rakah / mode and movements]
|واذ - recall|ابتلي - when tested |ابراهيم - you Abraham |ربه his Guide / Lord |بكلمات - with words |فاتمهن - so he completed them
|قال - he said |اني - that I |جاعلك - making you |للناس - Mankind/|اماما - a leader/ Imam |قال - he said|ومن - then|ذريتي - my descendants |قال - he said|لا - no|ينال - he takes|عهدي - my promise|الظالمين - the cruel

Remember [Mankind] when Abraham was put to the test by his Guide Lord, with words [of Al Kitab], and he fulfilled them. [Allah] said, "I am appointing you The Imam for Mankind." He said, “include my descendants?" He [Allah] said, "My promise does not include the cruel."

Sura2 Aya125
|واذ - recall|جعلنا - made|البيت - the house |مثابة - standard|للناس – for mankind |وامنا - null|واتخذوا - null|من - of|مقام - position|ابراهيم - you Abraham |مصلي - a prayer place |وعهدنا - promised|الي - was the |ابراهيم - you Abraham |واسماعيل and Ismaeel|ان - that|طهرا - purify|بيتي - my house |للطائفين – devotees |والعاكفين – circumvent |والركع - bow|السجود - the prostrating
Remember when We made the [Holy] house to be the standard [for worship] for Mankind and a safety. [Asking] you shall take this position of Abraham as prayer [to copy]. And We made Abraham and Ishmael responsible: "You shall purify My [Holy] house [against deviations] for those who visit [in pilgrimage], and those who are devoted, and those circumvent, bowing, and prostrating [in Salat]."

Allah defines Islam through Abraham.
22:78 "You shall struggle in the cause of Allah as expected. He has blessed you, and imposed no hardship in your religion; the Religion of Your Father Abraham, Abraham is the one who named you "Muslims" in the beginning. Therefore, the messenger serves as witness among you, just as you serve as a witness among the people. Therefore, you shall observe the Salat prayers, give the welfare tax, and hold fast to Allah; He is your Guide Lord; the best Lord, and the best supporter."

Muhammad follows the Sunnah of Abraham
3:67-68 "Abraham was neither Jewish , nor Christian; he was a monotheist; a Muslim; he never was an idol-worshiper [of a human / object personality]. The people most worthy of following Abraham are those who follow him and so does this prophet (Muhammad pbuh), and those who believed [in the Ayas]. Allah is the Guide Lord of the believers."

16:123 "Then we inspired you (O Muhammad pbuh) to follow the religion of Abraham, monotheism; never was he an idol-worshiper."

Takbeer (Glorification of God), Allahu Akbar
see 17:111, 2:185, 22 :37, 74:3, 29:45 ,2:43, 2:125, 5:55, 9:112, 22:26, 48:29
Prostration see; 3:113, 4:102, 7:206, 13:15, 15:98, 16:49, 17:107, 19:58, 22:18, 25:64, 41:37, 48:29, 53:62, 76:26, and 96:19,
Bowing : "Subhana Rabbya Al-Azeem), found in 56:74
Prostration: "Subhana Rabbya Al-A'ala " in 87:1 87:1 "Glorify the name of your Lord, the Most High."
(Sabbeh Ism Rabbeka Al-A'ala)

Recitation volume
17:110 You shall not repeat your Salat too loudly or silently; use a moderate tone."

Salat and its recitation – Fatiha opens the Quran and prayer followed by Ayas
15:87 And, of course, We [Allah] have given you [Muhammad and followers] seven of the often repeated [Ayas - Fatiha], and this sublime Qur'an [for subsequent recitation]

Allah’s blessings with Salat for me and you
33:43 He [Allah] it is Who blesses [yusalleeAAalaykum عليكم يصلي] you, and His angels (bless you), that He may bring you forth from cruelty to light; and He is ever Merciful to the believers.

Allah’s blessings with salat for Muhammad [pbuh]
33:56 Lo! Allah and His angels sends blessings [yusalloonaAAala يصلون علي] on the Prophet. O you who believe! Ask blessings on him and salute him with a worthy salutation.

Jesus asked for Salat
19:31 And [Allah] has made me [Jesus] blessed where so ever I may be, and has ordered upon me prayer and welfare tax so long as I remain alive.

Mary asked for Salat
3:43 O Mary! Be obedient to your Lord, prostrate yourself and bow with those who bow.

Adam, his children, Noah, those who ship with him, Israel and all people asked for Salat
19:58 These are they whom Allah showed favour from among the prophets, of the children of Adam and of those whom We carried with Noah, and of the children of Abraham and Israel, and from among those whom We guided and chose. When the revelations of the Beneficent were recited to them, they fell down, adoring and weeping.

Later people deviate from the Salat standard format
19:59 Now there had succeeded them a later generation whom have ruined worship and have followed own desires [innovations]. But they will meet deception.

Physical and mental states for Salat
4:43 O ye who believe [in Ayas]! Come not near to prayer when you are [mentally] incompetent [through drugs / absent minded etc], till you know that which you say, nor when you are polluted [menstruated / sexual contact etc], except when journeying upon the road, until you have bathed [body and clothes]. And if you are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the toilet, or you have touched women [sexually], and you find not water, then go to high clean soil and rub your faces and your hands (with it). Lo! Allah is Caring, Forgiving.

Physical cleanliness for Salat
5:6 O ye who believe [in these Ayas]! When getting up up for prayer, wash you faces [as part mouth, nose, ears], and your hands up to the elbows, and lightly rub your heads and your feet up to the ankles. And if ye are unclean [menstruated / sexual contact etc], purify yourselves. And if you are sick or on a journey, or one of you comes from the toilet, or you have had contact with women, and you find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it. Allah would not place a burden on you, but He would purify you and would perfect His grace upon you, that you may give thanks.



Times [5] for Salat
20:130 There for (O Muhammad and followers), with patience by what they say, and celebrate the praise of your Guide Lord with the rising of the sun [2] and with the going down [3] of it. And glorify Him some hours of the night [5] and at the two ends of the day [1 and 4], that you may find acceptance.
Other references and related details 11:114, 24:58,17:78, 30:18, 2:238

Salah at the extreme poles, Taraweeh and modes of exception.
73:20 Your Guide Lord knows that you pray [month Ramadan in different seasons resulting in] two-thirds of the night, or half of it, or one-third of it, and so do some of those who believed [pray] with you [Taraweeh]. Allah has designed the night and the day [in such manner], and He knows that you cannot always do the same [in all places and nearer the poles]. He has pardoned you [in the extreme poles] . Instead, you shall read what you can of the Quran. [similarly] He knows that some of you may be ill, others may be traveling in pursuit of Allah's allowed provisions, and others may be striving in the cause of Allah. You shall read what you can of it [Quran], and observe the Salat, give the welfare tax, and lend Allah a loan of righteousness. Whatever good you send ahead on behalf of your souls, you will find it with Allah far better and generously rewarded. And beg Allah for forgiveness. Allah is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

Observation: As the Earth rotates about its axis celestial objects appear to rise and set. Objects at declination zero (or directly "above" the Earth's equator are up for twelve hours and down for twelve hours. When the Sun is at declination zero (at the vernal and autumnal equinoxes) it is therefore up for twelve hours and and down for twelve hours. The point at which is it at its highest (when it crosses the meridion) is defined to be local noon. For observers that are in the northern hemisphere, objects that are north of the celestial equator are up for longer than twelve hours (to the point that some are circumpolar and never set). Objects south of the celestial equator are up for less than twelve hours (some never rise). In winter (in the Northern hemisphere) the Sun is south of the celestial equator so is up for less than twelve hours - the exact length of time depends on its exact declination. Local noon is still the time when it reaches it's highest point.

Salat in travel / Battle formation / guard duty / regrouping etc
4:101 And when you go forth in the land [in duty], it is no sin for you to shorten worship [two rakah] if you fear that those who disbelieve may attack you. In truth the disbelievers [in Ayas] are an open enemy to you.

2:239 And if walking in fear, then (pray) standing or on horseback. And when you are again in safety, remember Allah, as He has taught you that which you knew not.

Purpose of Salat – behave and perform as asked
24:41 Have you not seen that Allah, He it is Whom all who are in the heavens and the earth praise, and do the birds in their flight? Of each He knows surely the worship and the praise; and Allah is Aware of what they do.

107: 1-7 Have you observed him who be lies religion? That is he who rejects the orphan [destitute]. And explains away for not feeding of the needy. Ah, curse to worshippers. Who are heedless of their prayer [i.e. of Ayas]. Who would be seen (at worship). Yet refuse small kindnesses!

Friday Prayers
62: 9 – 10 O you who believe! when the call is made for prayer on Friday, then hurray to the remembrance of Allah and leave off trading; that is better for you, if you knew. And when the prayer is ended, then travel in the land and seek of Allah's bounty, and remember Allah[His instructions] much, that you may be successful.

Funeral Salat for Mominoon [believers in Ayas] only
9:84 And never (O Muhammad and followers) pray for one of them who dies, nor stand by his grave. Lo! they disbelieved in Allah and His messenger, and they died while they were evil-doers.

Salat with Muslim Hypocrites and their mental state.
4: 142 - 143 The hypocrites seek to cheat Allah, but it is Allah's Law by which such people deceive themselves (2:9). When they stand up for prayers, they do so reluctantly and only to be seen by people, and rarely do they think of Allah [in form of Ayas].
Swaying between this (and that sect), (belonging) neither to these nor to those. He whom Allah cause to go astray, you (O Muhammad and followers) will not find a way for them:

18:57 "Who is more wicked than one who is reminded of the verses of His Lord, then disregard them, while unaware of his sin ? Consequently, we place barriers on their thinking, to prevent them from understanding (Quran), and deafness in their ears. Therefore, if you invite them to the guidance, they can never ever be guided."

Ahadith and Salat implications [all ahadih are based on myth, mystery, and tales not calculated facts]

Know that many Muslims who question the Qur’an do not know that, the Hadith books do not have enough information about how to perform Salat, the number of Rakaat (units), or what to say in them. Not a single hadith, Muhammad [pbuh] reported as telling people; let me tell you how to perform your Salat prayers, or let me tell you the number of Rakaat in the prayers.

These Ahadith are too volumes to insert here, enthusiasts can internet them.

Few Questions Asked of

How do you perform Salat?
Can a common person find out how many Rakat's there are?
Can we perform Salat when we are naked?
Is it ok to perform Salat right behind a Woman, behind her behind?

Ahadith – negating reason of Wudu
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 3.235 Abu Said Al Khudri reports:
…….I have certainly been shown (the date of) this Night (of Qadr), but I have forgotten it……I also saw myself (in a dream) prostrating in mud and water. ……With my own eyes, I saw the Prophet, upon completion of the morning prayer, leaving (the mosque) with his face covered with mud and water.

Saheeh Bukhari, Part I, p. 104
Abu Sa'eed used to relate that he had seen the Prophet prostrating on wet mud, so much so that he could see mud stains on his forehead.

Hadith books narrate a story regarding the times of Salat prayer and its ordinance. The story of Mirage is one of the longest hadith in the Bukhari. Reportedly, after getting frequent advice from Moses by going up and down between the sixth and seventh heaven, Muhammad as negotiator with Allah to reduce the number of prayers from 50 times a day (one prayer for every 28 minutes) to 5 times a day. This hadith portrays Moses of the Jews as a all knowledgeable union leader saving Muhammad’s [pbuh] people from Allah's unmerciful and impossible demand?
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Well said Bk bhai..
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I apologize in advance if I hurt any feelings or sensitivities, but in my humble opinion, drawing or depicting the image of the prophet should actually give the 'human' face necessary to avoid worship. I am not talking about this Facebook thing. I am speaking in general. Islam wants us to recognize him as a human, and I find it insulting that God has enough faith in us, that just a depiction would cause us to abandon him and worship his prophet. Art leads to an enlightened society. Just look back at dark ages Europe and what art and literature in subsequent ages did for the age of enlightenment. The stagnation of Islamic world/culture has been too long.
i like what electrequem has said. they have the freedom of speech/religion, which the quran allows in surah 2:256 and surah 109:5. however, it is clear to everyone that they are trying to provoke people and offend people's sensibilities. which again they have every right to.

however, the proper response by the muslim community should be to boycott danish goods (since their gov stood by and supported Jielens posten newspapar (sic)). we should our excercise our peaceful right to drive these people under since they are clearly not civilized beings who are themselves as intolerant as the one whom they are wrongfully accusing.

as far as human depictions be they of muhammad or anyone else. i think it really depends on what our aims are. obviously the intention of creating an idol to be worshiped is bad and should be avoided. but, in terms of pure art (eg. the Pieta which is not an object of worship as far as i know) should be allowed, assuming that the Quran doesn't say "don't make any images of living things".

i think the old testement commandment of "thou shalt not make any graven images" may refer only to God or to other false dieties and not to comic books or other people and animals. after all trees are kosher, but aren't they living things too?
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LAHORE - Pakistani protesters shouted "Death to Facebook", "Death to America" and burnt US flags on Friday, venting growing anger over "sacrilegious" caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed on the Internet.

A Facebook user organised an "Everyone Draw Mohammed Day" competition to promote "freedom of expression", inspired by an American woman cartoonist, but sparked a major backlash in the conservative Muslim country of 170 million.

Islam strictly prohibits the depiction of any prophet as blasphemous and the row has sparked comparison with protests across the Muslim world over the publication of satirical cartoons of Mohammed in European newspapers in 2006.

The Pakistan Telecommunications Authority (PTA) banned access to Facebook, YouTube and more than 450 links, including restricted access to Wikipedia in view of what it called "growing sacrilegious content".

PTA released a toll-free telephone number and email address, and has acted on complaints received by the regulator.

Up to 3,000 people rallied in the eastern city of Lahore at the behest of a coalition of Islamic groups, including Jamaat-ud Dawa, regarded as a front for the militant group blamed for the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

"This is a war and we have to show unity," Farid Ahmed Paracha, a central leader of hardline Sunni Muslim political party Jamaat-e-Islami told the crowd.

"We should tell America that this the final match," he added.

Shouting anti America and anti Facebook slogans with chanting "Death to America," the participants burnt US, Norway, Sweden and Denmark flags.
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Lol @ "death to facebook"

How does one "kill" facebook anyway?

Fundi 1: Hey what did you do today?
Fundi 2: I blocked all of my friends. That showed'em. Hooomph!!

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For the highly minded lovers of freedom of expression...french style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppwa6I0Tkjo
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Lol @ "death to facebook"

How does one "kill" facebook anyway?

Fundi 1: Hey what did you do today?
Fundi 2: I blocked all of my friends. That showed'em. Hooomph!!

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Absolutely. Can't imagine a social life without FB. Life without Mafia War pals...intolerable.

Bloody fundies have to ruin one of the very few pure, wholesome, organic and real things left on this planet.
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Lol @ "death to facebook"

How does one "kill" facebook anyway?

Fundi 1: Hey what did you do today?
Fundi 2: I blocked all of my friends. That showed'em. Hooomph!!

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https://ssl.facebook.com/help/contac...delete_account
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Yeah that will totally show them.. whats ~10,000 users in a third world country minus 400,000,000 again?

While we are at it. Death, to the internet, which was created by USA military. Every internet company that resides in USA follows the law of the land and there is no law preventing them to draw whatever-his-name-is face.

As long as you are not breaking any law you can create almost any fan group you want on facebook. Showing anger towards facebook or USA, because of the actions of users all over the world, is stupid.

Then again, ability to think rationally is not something religious fanatics aspire for.
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If you didn't know, Prophet Muhammad (SM) himself forbidden us from drawing his pictures fearing we muslims may fall into the same trap as Christians, who started worshipping their Messanger Isa (Jesus) (A). And drawing pictures, how will you know how our prophet (SM) looked like. You will draw him (SM) in line with someone other's facial features. Prophet Muhammad (SM) was the leader of all prophets and you will draw him on line with someone else's feature, which actually lowering our prophet Muhammad (SM) because he (SM) was drawn in line with someone who is lower than him.
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