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Old September 12, 2011, 09:40 AM
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What team is Nazimudding playing in the Challenge Cup?
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Old September 12, 2011, 09:41 AM
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Old September 12, 2011, 09:46 AM
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disappointing performance...

Hope 'comptetent' BCB will nail out the gaps and fix them to avoid another humiliation, at least again Zimbabwe.
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Old September 12, 2011, 10:11 AM
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Not true. Jahurul could replace 1 of those 2. Shamsur is another option. I don't understand why Nazimuddin was not taken. His foot work is atrocious but so is Imrul's. And the way Nazimuddin hit Shane Bond out in the ICL, I don't see Imrul ever being able to do pull that off. So the selectors should use Nazim as an option since we lack good top order batsmen.
IMO Jahurul can be a good choice in tests with Tamim.But he is terrible in shorter format.His performance was miserable with the A team in South Africa.Both Shamsur Rahmam and Nazimuddin was also miserable at SA so i have little hope about our top order.SN or Junaid also terrible in #3.IMO best option will be a)Try Jahurul in tests with Tamim b)Continue Imrul in short format.Its our luck we have a batsman like Tamim in the top order.

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Old September 12, 2011, 10:19 AM
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Another point,strength of our academy is not too bad but in comparison to national team is really weak.So i hope my forum mates will reduce their thinking about young cubs to be shifted to the national team straight from academy or U-19 teams.Every one must be tested with the A team before entering national team unless he has any special performance.

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Old September 12, 2011, 10:26 AM
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Not true. Jahurul could replace 1 of those 2. Shamsur is another option. I don't understand why Nazimuddin was not taken. His foot work is atrocious but so is Imrul's. And the way Nazimuddin hit Shane Bond out in the ICL, I don't see Imrul ever being able to do pull that off. So the selectors should use Nazim as an option since we lack good top order batsmen.
Johirul Yes (I think he deserves few more chances) not sure about Shamsur but Nazimul? Not too sure about him brother..If you want to replace a mediocre with another mediocre then its worth to take a shot at it. The outcome will pretty much be the same.19-20 hote pare..But I want to replace the failure with someone more talented with better technique and temperament and unfortunately Nazim is not that. He might be aggressive and may give you quick 10-15 runs but thats about it..Jei lau shei kodu vai...

Siddons used to say that we dont have Tendulkar or Ponting on the side bench. He is right..We dont have that many options. The proof is right in front of you brother. A proven parasite keeps coming back to the squad over and over and over again...
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Old September 12, 2011, 11:21 AM
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Ya I agree with you guys M.H. Rubel and roman bhais. I'm as confused as you guys. The lack of quality batsmen is a big problem. I know this isn't ideal but how about trying Shakib at #3 in ODIs? He is our best batsman and should come in as early as possible so that he can come in rather then coming at #5 and having to come in to a crisis which he usually does. I was thinking about this kind of lineup. I wanna hear your opinions.

1. Tamim
2. TBD
3. Shakib
4. Mushy
5. Shuvagoto
6. Riyad
7. Alok
8. Nasir
9. Razzak
10. Shafiul
11. Rubel
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Old September 12, 2011, 11:26 AM
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Regarding your last point: We dont have any Tendulkar, Ponting outsidethe squad, no other country does either. But that doesnt mean we keep our Mofizs in the squad either.. We did find Nasir, Hom and possibly can find Maishikur, Anamul, Shohag Gazi or Babu like new player or Kapali, Rasel like experienced players who can be much better better players than his favorite Naeem Islam, Rokibul, Imrul, Junaeds...
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Old September 12, 2011, 11:40 AM
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Regarding your last point: We dont have any Tendulkar, Ponting outsidethe squad, no other country does either. But that doesnt mean we keep our Mofizs in the squad either.. We did find Nasir, Hom and possibly can find Maishikur, Anamul, Shohag Gazi or Babu like new player or Kapali, Rasel like experienced players who can be much better better players than his favorite Naeem Islam, Rokibul, Imrul, Junaeds...
We keep that Mofiz in the squad coz we dont have a quality replacement. If we did then we wouldnt have seen the players like Imrul, Ash, SN, Rokib in the squad after many failures and with such low avergae.Tendulkar, Ponting was just an example brother.

Regarding your last point brother I also want to believe that the players in academy are much much better than our current bunch and they'll replace those players today or tomorrow. Actually its this believe that kept me following BD cricket for so many years...But let them have some time to get grow
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Old September 12, 2011, 11:43 AM
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Ya I agree with you guys M.H. Rubel and roman bhais. I'm as confused as you guys. The lack of quality batsmen is a big problem. I know this isn't ideal but how about trying Shakib at #3 in ODIs? He is our best batsman and should come in as early as possible so that he can come in rather then coming at #5 and having to come in to a crisis which he usually does. I was thinking about this kind of lineup. I wanna hear your opinions.

1. Tamim
2. TBD
3. Shakib
4. Mushy
5. Shuvagoto
6. Riyad
7. Alok
8. Nasir
9. Razzak
10. Shafiul
11. Rubel
I think #3 should be given to Riyad. Shak is an option but he himself said once that he feels comfortable batting at #5
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Old September 12, 2011, 12:14 PM
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I think #3 should be given to Riyad. Shak is an option but he himself said once that he feels comfortable batting at #5
none of riyad or shakib will be good negotiating the new ball.
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Old September 12, 2011, 01:15 PM
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Ya I agree with you guys M.H. Rubel and roman bhais. I'm as confused as you guys. The lack of quality batsmen is a big problem. I know this isn't ideal but how about trying Shakib at #3 in ODIs? He is our best batsman and should come in as early as possible so that he can come in rather then coming at #5 and having to come in to a crisis which he usually does. I was thinking about this kind of lineup. I wanna hear your opinions.

1. Tamim
2. TBD
3. Shakib
4. Mushy
5. Shuvagoto
6. Riyad
7. Alok
8. Nasir
9. Razzak
10. Shafiul
11. Rubel
Well probably Ian Pont suggested in a post to send Shakib at #3.Definately best batsman in the team should bat early in the innings.Shakib is our 2nd best batsman.In that case he can be a choice no doubt.But batting in the toporder is really tough job.You should have good technique with good reflex to bat there.Shakib has good hand eye coordination with good reflex.Basically he relies upon his excellent timing.But his footwork is poor and sometimes he looks ugly with his poor footwork.Now do you think its possible to survive for him with this footwork in adverse situations like in ENG or SA at #3?To me best position for him can be #4 though new captain Mushy will bag this position for him.
*I liked your Riyad+Nasir+Kapali combination for 5th bowler.I was thinking this combination for long time.

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Old September 12, 2011, 01:24 PM
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This academy line-up is a joke really. Just three specialist batters and rest bits and pieces "allrounders". Very disturbing approach to cricket at this level.

Btw, why are the playing One day cricket?! Its the longer version where their trousers are being removed in front of the whole world. Shouldn't they be playing Four-Day matches here?
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Old September 12, 2011, 01:44 PM
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Btw, why are the playing One day cricket?! Its the longer version where their trousers are being removed in front of the whole world. Shouldn't they be playing Four-Day matches here?
There will be a 4 day practice match after this tournament for national team against A team.
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Old September 12, 2011, 04:33 PM
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Old September 12, 2011, 05:27 PM
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Old September 12, 2011, 05:49 PM
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There will be a 4 day practice match after this tournament for national team against A team.
ONE 4-day practice match!!! ONE 4-day!!!

For a team that got their bottoms handed back to them by the "weekest" Test side in the circuit and that too on their return after 6 long years of exile! Great BCB!
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Old September 12, 2011, 11:04 PM
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I think #3 should be given to Riyad. Shak is an option but he himself said once that he feels comfortable batting at #5
Riyad is a no no right now at #3. He just isn't ready yet to bat that high up the order. Let him play some substantial innings, winning us some matches beofre we consider him at #3.

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Well probably Ian Pont suggested in a post to send Shakib at #3.Definately best batsman in the team should bat early in the innings.Shakib is our 2nd best batsman.In that case he can be a choice no doubt.But batting in the toporder is really tough job.You should have good technique with good reflex to bat there.Shakib has good hand eye coordination with good reflex.Basically he relies upon his excellent timing.But his footwork is poor and sometimes he looks ugly with his poor footwork.Now do you think its possible to survive for him with this footwork in adverse situations like in ENG or SA at #3?To me best position for him can be #4 though new captain Mushy will bag this position for him.
*I liked your Riyad+Nasir+Kapali combination for 5th bowler.I was thinking this combination for long time.

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I agree batting at #3 is a very tough job but bhai you talk about poor footwork with Shakib. I have to say that I agree with that. I'll ask you this question though, doesn't Tamim do very well against the new ball despite him not having good footwork. I mean it has led to his downfall at times but his lack of footwork didn't matter against England when he scored those centuries did it? It also hasn't made Sehwag fail did it? Bottom line is that our batsmen don't use footwork when needed and love to just throw their hands at deliveries. It's just the way our batsmen approach the game. What's different from Shakib and Tamim from Ash and Aftab is the fact that their cricket intelligence is far higher then Ash and Aftab. They both have superb hand eye coordination but the difference has been that Shakib and Tamim are smarter when attacking then Ash and Aftab despite their lack of foot work. So to me, Shakib is more then capable of batting at #3.
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Old September 14, 2011, 12:14 PM
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If we can have Riyad, Nasir, Kapali, Hom and Shakib in the same team than imagine the batting depth with all these allrounders.
I am really lost for hope when it comes to Razzaq, think he should only play home matches as he is ineffective outside bangladesh. Shuvo should get an extended run specially in test matches. HE has a good first class record.
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Shuvo's 1st class record should is overrated. I've now watched this guy bowl a fair bit and seen enough of our 1st class cricketers to know that you bowl 5 tight overs to a batter and he'll give you his wicket. And that's what Shuvo can do, against batsmen who DON'T use their feet - fire darts on their pads and tie them down. This does not make you a Test bowler. Saqlain Sajeeb is a more attacking and promising 1st class prospect but he doesn't seem to be a big turner. I'm holding out hope for Nur Hossain.
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na shopno dekhte hobe..ke vabsilo 20 bochor age j amader cricket ai porjay pouchabe..so akdin na akdin shopno obisoi puron hobe...ai gadha gular aktu..err..besi time lagbe ai ja..
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^^ if it takes 20 years to reach this stage then Allah knows how long will it take to be a dominant force and not a "punching bag" of world cricket. We won't be able to see in our lifetime. If lucky, maybe our next generation can.
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Shuvo's 1st class record should is overrated. I've now watched this guy bowl a fair bit and seen enough of our 1st class cricketers to know that you bowl 5 tight overs to a batter and he'll give you his wicket. And that's what Shuvo can do, against batsmen who DON'T use their feet - fire darts on their pads and tie them down. This does not make you a Test bowler. Saqlain Sajeeb is a more attacking and promising 1st class prospect but he doesn't seem to be a big turner. I'm holding out hope for Nur Hossain.
Shuvo did really well in the A team when they faced the WI A. But that was played in our slow turners and also take in to the fact that WI batsmen are sub par against spin and those stats are not impressive as it shows. I feel that's the main problem with our spinners though. They rely on batsmen making mistakes rather then going on the attack. That's why Razzak hasn't had the same success he's had in tests compared to ODIs. Can't comment on Sunny since I've never seen him bowl. To me Riyad has actually been very impressive. That 1st test against England at Lord's, it seemed that finally a spinner other then Shakib could keep the pressure up. Unfortunately he's been underbowled. Hopefully, Mushy let's Riyad have more chances to bowl. We should just play Shakib and Riyad as our spinners for tests in my opinion. I'm also holding out hope for Nur Hossain. He could be the leggie we've been looking for but he's still got some ways to go before he's international material.
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