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June 27, 2012, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rubu
Ancient Greek Style voting with president(modified version of it). Where only people with bachelor degree or above can vote (and they have to pass a test to get the voting right) and president do not have to depend on congress to get things done, and get a "you are fine" vote at the end of each year (by the same selected group).
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The bolded part is deeply problematic. How many people in Bangladesh have a verifiable Bachelor's degree? A minuscule fraction out of the 160 million people in the country. My Mother and many of my Khalas and Khalus teach at DU and from what I have heard, even the few that do get Bachelor's degrees are not particularly 'enlightened'. So, why should they constitute the electorate?
Even if we consider these enlightened, educated folk to be benevolent to their fellow man, how do we know that they will have the best interests of the common farmer/peasant/worker at heart when they vote? How can we be sure that they, in their 'ivory towers', will even be aware of what those interests are?
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June 27, 2012, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kabir
Ditto (for once) - end of discussion.
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Kabir bhai to Zunaid bhai er reeto-moto bhakta hoye gelen dada...
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June 28, 2012, 09:16 AM
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Kabir bhai to Zunaid bhai er reeto-moto bhakta hoye gelen dada...
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June 28, 2012, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Navo
The bolded part is deeply problematic. How many people in Bangladesh have a verifiable Bachelor's degree? A minuscule fraction out of the 160 million people in the country. My Mother and many of my Khalas and Khalus teach at DU and from what I have heard, even the few that do get Bachelor's degrees are not particularly 'enlightened'. So, why should they constitute the electorate?
Even if we consider these enlightened, educated folk to be benevolent to their fellow man, how do we know that they will have the best interests of the common farmer/peasant/worker at heart when they vote? How can we be sure that they, in their 'ivory towers', will even be aware of what those interests are?
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Even before getting to the verifiable degree holders, ever wondered how many people will NOT have a say in voting? Democracy is supposed to be for the people, not for the educated people only.
BANFAN said it nicely - it's not about who gets to vote, rather, who gets voted for. Perhaps we need to have primaries like the US, and also not allow someone to run for more than 2 terms in their lifetime.
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June 28, 2012, 09:47 AM
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I say this once a month...the uneducated are not screwing this country, the educated are. They are the ones selling their souls for money and power.
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June 28, 2012, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by F6_Turbo
I say this once a month...the uneducated are not screwing this country, the educated are. They are the ones selling their souls for money and power.
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Amen.
Undeducated != stupid
Educated != learned
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June 28, 2012, 10:04 AM
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I have no idea on what system of government Bangladesh should have. No idea at all. This is my 2 cents on this topic and as they say, everyone's opinions matter.
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July 1, 2012, 08:21 AM
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Thanks to a post by Zunaid, I spent some time with Edmund Burke this afternoon.
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"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion."
"Whenever a separation is made between liberty and justice, neither, in my opinion, is safe."
"Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites, — in proportion as their love to justice is above their rapacity, — in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption, — in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves."
"Neither the few nor the many have a right to act merely by their will, in any matter connected with duty, trust, engagement, or obligation."
"The tyranny of a multitude is a multiplied tyranny."
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