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December 7, 2012, 07:25 AM
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Dropped twice, the guy needs to pass on his gloves.
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December 7, 2012, 08:51 AM
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Might as well be stripped of his captaincy, the way the team has played he's already been stripped of his clothes.
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December 9, 2012, 01:03 PM
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ki bepar ,ei thread e keo post korena keno
Yes he has a lot of things to work on and yes he is not always consistent but best thing about him being capt is under him we shine as a team, the team spirit is high, as a capt u need to be loved by your team mates,so that they will want to do it for u and offcourse for the country.
Mushy has that influence on his boys.
Before him under other capt. it was more abt individual achievements and shomman jonok win.
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December 10, 2012, 10:24 AM
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The decision to bowl Rubel in those two overs was the difference. The other difference was dropping Samuels twice. Mushfiqur should give up keeping and captaincy.
I am okay with mistakes from a young captain. But, I am not okay with not learning from past mistakes. Mushfiqur has not learned from his earlier mistakes SRK in Asia Cup, Rubel in ODI series, and today again. If there is no improvement, someone else could be tried. At least, make Shakib the VC. Maybe he will remember these debacles and advice Mushfiqur should he repeat these (which I am afraid he might).
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December 10, 2012, 10:26 AM
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The decision to bowl Rubel in those two overs was the difference. The other difference was dropping Samuels twice. Mushfiqur should give up keeping and captaincy.
I am okay with mistakes from a young captain. But, I am not okay with not learning from past mistakes. Mushfiqur has not learned from his earlier mistakes SRK in Asia Cup, Rubel in ODI series, and today again. If there is no improvement, someone else could be tried. At least, make Shakib the VC. Maybe he will remember these debacles and advice Mushfiqur should he repeat these (which I am afraid he might).
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December 10, 2012, 10:27 AM
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^He had no choice. But when he was hurt. Why did he continue with the gloves? After he got hurt, He dropped samuel and missed a stumping too. I wouldn't have mind him keeping the gloves if Another WK if he wasn't there, but Anam was there, yet he continued and gave 2 life to Samuels 
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December 10, 2012, 10:28 AM
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December 10, 2012, 10:39 AM
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In his interview with Shamim, I did not get any indication that he has learned.
Go with your better death bowlers during death overs, Mushfiqur! Is that so difficult?
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December 10, 2012, 11:06 AM
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No need to stripped of his captaincy yet,but must pass wkt keeping role to someone.
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December 10, 2012, 11:21 AM
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The problem is we have no one else. Shakib is a good captain but too much overload for him considering he's an all-rounder.
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December 10, 2012, 11:47 AM
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I really wanted to vote 'Yes' here. As this doesnt offer any for which format he shouldn't captain BD team at all (IMO t20) I'm skipping it.
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December 10, 2012, 12:18 PM
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If we want to change captain every time they made a wrong decision then we have to debu new players/captain every other series. I remember when flamming of new zealand was sacked from captaincy he said i just started enjoying and understanding captaincy and that is after he being a good captain for long time... and if you look at other great captain they have made blunders even after being captain for long time... Azher taking fielding in WC semis come to my mind. and mushi became a captain for a year now. he made a choice didn't work out, lets move on. don't be like indian fans and scrutinize every thing.. be like SL fans.
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December 10, 2012, 12:27 PM
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^He had no choice. But when he was hurt. Why did he continue with the gloves? After he got hurt, He dropped samuel and missed a stumping too. I wouldn't have mind him keeping the gloves if Another WK if he wasn't there, but Anam was there, yet he continued and gave 2 life to Samuels
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He was afraid he might lose his job permanently.
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December 10, 2012, 12:49 PM
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I also am not in favor of changing captain at the drop of a hat. But, I want a captain to learn from past mistakes. He has made the same mistake at least 3 times, and it did not look like he has learned from today's mistake. "Some days, the batsmen is in a groove and will hit anyone..." Use a good death bowler at death overs! Rubel has not been good in death overs since returning.
I am very disappointed. But, first, they need to take his gloves away. Maybe keeping and skipping together has been difficult.
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If we want to change captain every time they made a wrong decision then we have to debu new players/captain every other series. I remember when flamming of new zealand was sacked from captaincy he said i just started enjoying and understanding captaincy and that is after he being a good captain for long time... and if you look at other great captain they have made blunders even after being captain for long time... Azher taking fielding in WC semis come to my mind. and mushi became a captain for a year now. he made a choice didn't work out, lets move on. don't be like indian fans and scrutinize every thing.. be like SL fans.
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December 10, 2012, 12:53 PM
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If we want to change captain every time they made a wrong decision then we have to debu new players/captain every other series. I remember when flamming of new zealand was sacked from captaincy he said i just started enjoying and understanding captaincy and that is after he being a good captain for long time... and if you look at other great captain they have made blunders even after being captain for long time... Azher taking fielding in WC semis come to my mind. and mushi became a captain for a year now. he made a choice didn't work out, lets move on. don't be like indian fans and scrutinize every thing.. be like SL fans.
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Had the privilege of visiting a SL cricket forum some time ago. Got to say they are worse than Indian fans of ICF.
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December 10, 2012, 12:58 PM
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The problem is we have no one else. Shakib is a good captain but too much overload for him considering he's an all-rounder.
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That is the main problem. We have no other option left. Shakib can be a option but he have little control on the players. His tenure was not good either. Best option can be to make Shakib the vice captain.
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December 10, 2012, 01:45 PM
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Today rubel bowled well in the 1st overs and he is our best. who else he should have brought in? we want him to bring mcgra or stain when we don't have them???
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December 10, 2012, 02:06 PM
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Simple question to shuziburo: who should have bowled?
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December 10, 2012, 02:22 PM
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Whatever he is a legend, he got Man of the Series award, the one and only Mushfiq. Change him? No way please
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December 10, 2012, 02:38 PM
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Not only he should be stripped off Captaincy , he should be stripped of Cloths !! What a MORON . He did not injure his finger , just was faking to cover up the silly drop !! SL is rotating captaincy among Sangakara , Joyverdon and Dilshan according to performances and thats paying them positive results . Its time to try Mahmudullah as Captain. In test and ODI , he did not choose Mahmudullah to bat upper order , now he tried him in T20 , rediculous !!
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December 10, 2012, 03:26 PM
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Not only he should be stripped off Captaincy , he should be stripped of Cloths !! What a MORON . He did not injure his finger , just was faking to cover up the silly drop !! SL is rotating captaincy among Sangakara , Joyverdon and Dilshan according to performances and thats paying them positive results . Its time to try Mahmudullah as Captain. In test and ODI , he did not choose Mahmudullah to bat upper order , now he tried him in T20 , rediculous !!
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Could not have said it any better.
 
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December 10, 2012, 03:44 PM
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kok kok kok !!!! Murga Naki?
harley Press Conference-e attend kore na keno?
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December 10, 2012, 09:05 PM
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captaincy or no captaincy..mushy simply needs to give up Keeping, he was never good to begin with but now as we have another WK in the team, no need to continue with him
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December 10, 2012, 09:40 PM
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Like a lot of other people said here, there are no other options. Sakib is overloaded with work. We do not have too many options here. Mahmudullah is still unstable with his position in the team. Don't even say Mash, he is not a regular. So no other options.
The thing we need to learn is how to use our bowlers. A guy like Rubel should never be used as a death bowler if there is a set batsman on the other end. Rubel is more of an opener material. You can have him hit the deck hard with pace and then bring in the spinners later. That is his role. Once the ball gets old, he is of no use in an ODI. Its all about knowing your own players as a captain. That is the only way to utelise them right. If you don't know which chess piece moves in what way, you can not be the king. You might as well be the pawn in the game.
But having said all of this, I have to say that in the end Mushy went for the Win!! He did not want to settle and see where it goes which is why he made that change. He thought a fast bowler would be more threatening. Bad mistake with that move, but at least he had the right attitude. A sharp contrast from any BD captain before Sakib. At least you know he believes in his team!
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December 11, 2012, 02:51 AM
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Mahmudullah is still unstable with his position in the team.
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not sure if srs
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