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Old February 13, 2013, 03:00 AM
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There has been a lot of "Good" in BPL. Pace bowling as usual has been the bad and ugly. No pacer in the top 20 wicket takers. Not like we didnt expect it. But at least we got a few surprises in the batting department.
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Old February 13, 2013, 12:37 PM
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bring domestic pacers from Pakistan and Afghanistan give them citizenship through marriage or whatever like Imran Tahir now he can play for South Africa .
We dont have the physique to ball fast anyways , even chaminda vaas was around 127 to 133 kph
but that does not matter .. we need consistent performer not just who is taking wickets regularly and can give breakthrough partnerships etc.
we need to use our resources properly.. even in pakistan there are slow wickets they still produce fast bowlers due to physical strength which is natural in their growth,
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Old February 13, 2013, 12:41 PM
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Old February 13, 2013, 12:51 PM
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Old February 13, 2013, 10:49 PM
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Intrigued with Alfonso Thomas. Such a good bowler. But if you deconstruct his game its all about simplicity and perfect execution of game plan. He's not by any means a lot quicker than our pacers. He always keeps it to a certain line and length almost with metronomic accuracy-always attacking the stumps aiming at the bells of off stump. He maintains a mean yet calm and composed attitude-never overawed by the situation. Has a good mix of slower balls, bouncers and yorkers.
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Old April 20, 2013, 04:28 PM
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Considering how well Robiul bowled in only his 5th Test match, why don't we give some others a try? Shahadat and Rubel have been given a lot of time but haven't delivered yet. Let's stop focusing on pace and go for accurate bowlers who can swing it. I want to give Sajedul a try. I would also love to see Nazmul back in the Test team. Someone who can hold up one end and create pressure by bowling maidens.
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Old April 20, 2013, 04:42 PM
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I want to see how Al-Amin Hossain, Abu Jayed, Dolar Mahmud and Mahbubul Alam would fair.
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Old April 20, 2013, 06:05 PM
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Considering how well Robiul bowled in only his 5th Test match, why don't we give some others a try? Shahadat and Rubel have been given a lot of time but haven't delivered yet. Let's stop focusing on pace and go for accurate bowlers who can swing it. I want to give Sajedul a try. I would also love to see Nazmul back in the Test team. Someone who can hold up one end and create pressure by bowling maidens.
i think one reason shahadat keeps on getting picked is that he's gotten 5fers in the past while the others haven't and since the pacers were always doing poorly people just saw him as the best of the worst since he had the capability. but now robiul has got a 5fer so by that logic, no need to pick shahadat anymore and yes i really hope they try some others, i want to see sajidul in the next match.
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Old April 21, 2013, 01:35 AM
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Babu Taskin Nazmul Robiul should be the 4 pacers for NZ series.
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Old April 21, 2013, 01:57 AM
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Old April 21, 2013, 04:12 AM
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We have a lion heart bowler in the name of Robiul. Im glad we found him as he reminds me off Peter Siddle (bowls with a lot of heart). We need to persist with Nazmul. He hits the line and lengths consistently which Bangladesh need. Taskin is the one to look out for. I think those 3 are the future.

Also i'd try out Ziaur Rahman as a specialist bowler for ODIs.
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Old April 21, 2013, 04:18 AM
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Considering how well Robiul bowled in only his 5th Test match, why don't we give some others a try? Shahadat and Rubel have been given a lot of time but haven't delivered yet. Let's stop focusing on pace and go for accurate bowlers who can swing it. I want to give Sajedul a try. I would also love to see Nazmul back in the Test team. Someone who can hold up one end and create pressure by bowling maidens.
Exactly my thoughts.

This is what I have been saying. Rubel has played quite a number of matches. It's true that he seems to deliver some good deliveries, but releases the pressure immediately. Same goes true for Shahadat. A bowler can be unlucky a couple of times, but not always. Looking at their stats this is clear that they have the real pace bowling capabilities in them.
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Old April 21, 2013, 05:15 AM
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We have a lion heart bowler in the name of Robiul. Im glad we found him as he reminds me off Peter Siddle (bowls with a lot of heart). We need to persist with Nazmul. He hits the line and lengths consistently which Bangladesh need. Taskin is the one to look out for. I think those 3 are the future.

Also i'd try out Ziaur Rahman as a specialist bowler for ODIs.
Id just tell Zia to quit his batting. Just focus on bowling.o
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Old April 21, 2013, 05:49 AM
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Id just tell Zia to quit his batting. Just focus on bowling.o
Hate watching him bat. A pure blind slogger. Not bad with the ball. In fact he is better than Rubel with the ball.
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Old April 22, 2013, 10:44 AM
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Selectors might be tempted to bring Taskin into the mix as a reactive strategy. Just worried the move might be too early for the guy-almost like Abul Hasan.

Taskin has played only 10 first class matches with a haul of 24. Its not just the lack of experience, also worry whether he is physically ready for the job. Knowing the player he is, he will go all out. We all know our history with injuries with pace bowlers. Not one person has been able to be injury free for a stretch of games. A long term injury early in the career could be a disaster. Rather have him play another couple of seasons of First Class, A Team Tours, time at the academy and then bring him in.

Now in comparison Zimbawean bowlers may not have much test experience, but they have a lot of first class experience. They have a better understanding of the longer version and are much fitter. Masakadza has close to 200 fc scalps, Mpofu 207, Meth 125, Jarvis 115, Vitori 64. Most of them have very good averages of around 20.

I think we have a very good find in Robiul Islam. He might be able to do well in all formats. We have to get Nazmul fit. Will be interesting to see how Saajidul plays. Shafiul and Rubel need to play more, even A Team might do them good. Kamrul Islam Rabbi, Al Amin Hossain, Abu Jayed, Kazi Kamrul Islam have all performed well in domestic cricket last couple of seasons. Prefer to see one of them as opposed to going on and on with Shahadat Hossain.
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Old April 22, 2013, 06:41 PM
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Selectors might be tempted to bring Taskin into the mix as a reactive strategy. Just worried the move might be too early for the guy-almost like Abul Hasan.

Taskin has played only 10 first class matches with a haul of 24. Its not just the lack of experience, also worry whether he is physically ready for the job. Knowing the player he is, he will go all out. We all know our history with injuries with pace bowlers. Not one person has been able to be injury free for a stretch of games. A long term injury early in the career could be a disaster. Rather have him play another couple of seasons of First Class, A Team Tours, time at the academy and then bring him in.

Now in comparison Zimbawean bowlers may not have much test experience, but they have a lot of first class experience. They have a better understanding of the longer version and are much fitter. Masakadza has close to 200 fc scalps, Mpofu 207, Meth 125, Jarvis 115, Vitori 64. Most of them have very good averages of around 20.

I think we have a very good find in Robiul Islam. He might be able to do well in all formats. We have to get Nazmul fit. Will be interesting to see how Saajidul plays. Shafiul and Rubel need to play more, even A Team might do them good. Kamrul Islam Rabbi, Al Amin Hossain, Abu Jayed, Kazi Kamrul Islam have all performed well in domestic cricket last couple of seasons. Prefer to see one of them as opposed to going on and on with Shahadat Hossain.
this is true. try sajidul now, rubel, shafiul and abul can play A teams, give rabbi, al amin, abu jayed, kazi or babu a try. and yes get nazmul fit.
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Old April 22, 2013, 06:47 PM
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I think Shafiul hasn't had enough chances for a while now. I would persist with him in the meantime and when Nazmul is fit i'd fit him into the team as well. That would mean a pace trio of Shafiul, Nazmul, Robiul. Ziaur can be in the mix for ODIs
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Old April 22, 2013, 08:29 PM
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Selectors might be tempted to bring Taskin into the mix as a reactive strategy. Just worried the move might be too early for the guy-almost like Abul Hasan.

Taskin has played only 10 first class matches with a haul of 24. Its not just the lack of experience, also worry whether he is physically ready for the job. Knowing the player he is, he will go all out. We all know our history with injuries with pace bowlers. Not one person has been able to be injury free for a stretch of games. A long term injury early in the career could be a disaster. Rather have him play another couple of seasons of First Class, A Team Tours, time at the academy and then bring him in.
Well said. I might support his inclusion if it is T20s or even ODIs. But tests for atleast 3/4 years is a big no. Unless BCB wants to lose a talent like him. Why the hurry? There are senior pacers who haven't got a chance yet, look at Robiul everyone wrote him off while he kept performing at the domestic level. He has got swing going and taking wickets and coming good for us, I think we have enough reserve for now for the tests.

About Taskin, let him play the U-19 world cup, the U-19 series to follow, more first class matches and another BPL. Let him grow more and learn more about the game. He will outgrow any players when he debuts then. But as I have said before, a talent like him will be hard to keep on the sidelines.
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Old April 22, 2013, 11:31 PM
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You dont often see Bangladeshi bowlers knocking down stumps with so much ease. And he has the aggression and attitude to back his bowling. Really really hope BCB manages him well. Not often you get such players.
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Old April 23, 2013, 12:42 AM
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You dont often see Bangladeshi bowlers knocking down stumps with so much ease. And he has the aggression and attitude to back his bowling. Really really hope BCB manages him well. Not often you get such players.
You're talking about Robiul right? If so, I agree. He is a workhorse, excellent stamina and determination. Exactly what we need. Wish he was a few years younger than 26, but even at 26 he can serve for 6-8 years.
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Old April 23, 2013, 01:30 AM
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No buddy i was talking about Taskin.

Robiul too could be a very good find. Love his grit, perseverance. Not as aggressive as Taskin, but he ll keep making you play ball after ball. He ll wait as long as it takes to get a mistake.
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Old April 23, 2013, 01:35 AM
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No buddy i was talking about Taskin.

Robiul too could be a very good find. Love his grit, perseverance. Not as aggressive as Taskin, but he ll keep making you play ball after ball. He ll wait as long as it takes to get a mistake.
Thats essentially what MCgrath did with his line and length, no? That is what a fast bowler is supposed to do.

Taskin seems to be able to move the ball off the seam, can get bounce, and hopefully can swing it with time and the proper conditions, I would like to see him play. His FC record is pretty good. Much better than Abul and Rubel's.
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Old April 23, 2013, 02:19 AM
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I loved how he bowled Dilshan in the BPL. If he can do that to a player of Dilshan's calibre then i think he can do that to any batsmen in world cricket.
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Taskin Ahmed
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Anyone else coming up the pipeline?
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Taskin Ahmed
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Kamrul Islam Rabbi

Anyone else coming up the pipeline?
I have high hopes for Abu Jayed. He already raced to 75 Wickets in first class cricket in 2 and half season. I'm afraid him and Taskin are not being looked after. They are not getting any specialized coaching. Just the occasional off season camps here and there. I don't know how far they can improve without any top class fast bowling coaching.
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