Shahbag Projonmo Chattor

[RazabQ]

Originally Posted by Zunaid
Ah so.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesig...php?nid=262861

Screw him too. Ever hear of the Armenian genocide?

Or the barbarities committed against Kurds? Well at least we now know of one landing spot for those who'd want to bolt. You know I've been thinking, if all these demonstrations cause the senior Jamaat leaders and rajakars to get the hell out of dodge, that wouldn't upset me at all. In fact I might be willing to give them one extra bag of peanut or pretzel during their flight out of BD.

Funny, I'd have expected such a reaction from Saudi Arabia, not from the most progressive/westernized of all Muslim-majority countries.

[zsayeed]

Originally Posted by Naimul_Hd
- Omi Rahman Pial

I am saddened to hear that from Omi. There is no ownership of efforts in the cause. I wonder why he would try to dismiss an effort that was obviously been done in good faith and fore-sight.

Zunaid - Thanks for clarifying. It is a bona fide petition. The terms and FAQ are easily seen by a few clicks - that is not much to ask for of a revolutionary. Thanks!

PS: Naimul Bhai - to see that it works see the responses for yourself - all fruits of a petition having been heard. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/responses

PPS: I already see that people are posting against that post on cyberjudhdho - Omi was quoted - but he did not post it. Here is a blog trying to validate: http://www.somewhereinblog.net/blog/...31006/29771769


You may want to alert Omi on that.

[zsayeed]

The "buck" goes from Election Commission to "Government" - which probably means Parliament(?)

EC to cancel, if govt bans party

[zsayeed]

"They open fake facebook accounts using the name of some protesters and post comments and status insulting Islam, so that the movement appears to be anti-religion".

Youths take on Jamaat's propaganda machinery on cyber front

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by RazabQ
Or the barbarities committed against Kurds? Well at least we now know of one landing spot for those who'd want to bolt. You know I've been thinking, if all these demonstrations cause the senior Jamaat leaders and rajakars to get the hell out of dodge, that wouldn't upset me at all. In fact I might be willing to give them one extra bag of peanut or pretzel during their flight out of BD.

Funny, I'd have expected such a reaction from Saudi Arabia, not from the most progressive/westernized of all Muslim-majority countries.

Highly surprised to see this from the Turks. I guess Daniel Pipes is correct in his analysis that Turkey under the AKP is becoming increasingly "Islamist". This is probably also reflective of Turkey's ambitions to be the leader of the Muslim world given their relative prosperity and strength.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by RazabQ
HereWeGo. Funny. Like I put in my disclaimer - I wasn't trying to be clever. I am genuinely interested in how a massive public protest gets the funding and logistics accomplished. After all I'm a management consultant by profession. So again, if you are actively participating, do enlighten us.

These things don't require a huge amount of funding or planning do they? Bring your own beer, chanachur, and lounge chair, right? If they have loudspeakers and maybe a portable big screen I'm sure that only costs maybe 10 grand which either some businessman or the BAL party can easily cough up. Oh and some Sharpie markers and posterboards from Staples.

[zsayeed]

^ Here's some financing news:

This correspondent met her at the school. She said she had had Tk 2,300 in her earthen pot. She had also taken Tk 700 from her mother for making pithas for Shahbagh protesters.

A small intitiative or contribution can be large enough to push forward the demonstration calling for death penalty for war criminals. Such an encouraging effort was made yesterday by villagers of Enayetpur of Sirajganj, 200 km north of the capital.

"We, village people, wanted to do something for them in expressing solidarity. We collected Tk 30,000 and all are spent on making pithas and carrying those to the capital."

Unity comes in 4,000 pithas

[zsayeed]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
These things don't require a huge amount of funding or planning do they? Bring your own beer, chanachur, and lounge chair, right? If they have loudspeakers and maybe a portable big screen I'm sure that only costs maybe 10 grand which either some businessman or the BAL party can easily cough up. Oh and some Sharpie markers and posterboards from Staples.

Boro TV asey naki oi jagai?

Dekhlam na to : http://www.ustream.tv/channel/projon...r-shahbag-live

[zsayeed]

I just was on a conference call with Omi Rahman Pial with my friend from Dhaka - Ranju who has been at Shahbagh every day; Pial Bhai said that he had withdrawn that statement. I also called the cyberjudho and they said that they would look into it as well. They say that they emailed the Whitehouse.gov contact email(?) - and awaiting a reply - and I don't think that's gonna happen. Need 100,000 sigs to get a response.

That tipai bridge thing may have been a scam - and once bitten - so I can understand. But this one is for real.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by zsayeed
Boro TV asey naki oi jagai?

Dekhlam na to : http://www.ustream.tv/channel/projon...r-shahbag-live

I was just speculating. It seems like something a mass protest would have.

[RazabQ]

Zsayeed, that pitha story is touching. My dad tells me that the hospitals and offices nearby are letting use of the bathrooms for the crowds but surely you are having to get all these PA systems. I saw a decent setup of mics and what not. Some good logistical aspects there. Likewise that table with laptops where there is power supply at least (I'm guessing each volunteer is using his own 3g wifi hotspot or bunch of them sharing). Is everyone packing lunches or paying out of pocket for their meals?

I get that my questions can seem like I'm implying some secret force is funding this. Clearly this is bigger than any party. However there is organization and funding of some type going on and if it's all crowdsourced then there are lessons to be learned here that can be applied to the corporate world.

[RazabQ]

BTW who is David Bergen?

[zsayeed]

RazabQ Bhai - Bangladeshey electricity pawa kothin naki? Especially near the police control room, shishu park and jadughor - and then charukola is right here. Koto hobey 100 yds to run some wires? My friend goes to TSC to get his food - as he is a DU grad. Somewhere else I was also reading that the committee is type of ad-hoc so far with the online activists who started it have some sort of organizational role. To get Mics is also not a big thing - people know people and know people - you know how things are and it is still the same. You can get a lot done with little - as far as needs of this group are concerned. My friend has a WiMAX device that he uses at the site. Plus to get that stream going - Wimax is available and good speeds.

[zsayeed]

Originally Posted by RazabQ
BTW who is David Bergen?

where did you hear of him? I don't know.
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edit: Kamal Hossain's son in law; british journo based in Dhaka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bergman_(journalist))
https://twitter.com/davidbangladesh
http://bangladeshwarcrimes.blogspot.com/
Also writes for NewAge ... so ...

Bergman? or Bergen?

[Zunaid]

He was the director of the famous Channel 4 documentary on War Criminals that outed the many Rajakars living in the UK. Bergman. He is also married to a friend. I've never met him though.

He does make legitimate points about the ICT, IMO.

[zsayeed]

Human Rights Watch -
71 atrocities are bad BUT....

...
we have an impasse

[Ajfar]

For those like me who have no idea what shahbag looks like in general





#Shahbag Instagram Pictures

[zsayeed]

^ ha ha bhai - ai khali shahbager chobita kon shomoi tula? I have never seen it so nice and empty.

[Ajfar]

^ Ami tuli nai bhai. I took it from someone's instagram account. I think this was taken during 'Hortal' awhile back.

[zsayeed]

Originally Posted by Ajfar
^ Ami tuli nai bhai. I took it from someone's instagram account. I think this was taken during 'Hortal' awhile back.

Yeah - didnot mean to give you a hard time. But that is a nice picture.

[zsayeed]

This is another nice picture of the transition from inception to a few days ago:

[RazabQ]

zsayeed thanks. What you describe is what I suspected but I haven't been to BD in 2 years so didn't want to assume.

[allrounder]

war criminal seeking justice against war criminals?

http://www.amardeshonline.com/pages/...e#.UR2MI6VJOAi

[zsayeed]

Bhai "Amar Desh" potrika thekey shabdhan thaiken.
But as long as you take it for laughs...

"We swear that we will boycott war criminals' mass media like Diganta TV, daily Naya Diganta, daily Amardesh, daily Sangram, Sonar Bangla Blog, etc.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesig...php?nid=268449

[cricket_pagol]

i was thinking of a possible demand:
Anybody convicted of war crime trial can never run for elections or any other public office. May be their citizenships can be taken away as well so that they can never travel on Bangladesh passport.