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Old April 25, 2013, 03:28 PM
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For the record, I loved his batting today. Very unorthodox, was leaning into every delivery.

Of course, centuries will be much more appreciated.
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Old April 25, 2013, 08:41 PM
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I think that is how he plays and get some valuable runs for the team... you cannot change your natural habit... look what we did to ashraful...he is a confused batsman now.. my opinion is let him play like himself..
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Old April 25, 2013, 08:47 PM
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He needs to work on so much in his batting. Gets way too impatient and for some reason he chases every single delivery. He needs to learn to pick out the balls to hit because there were too many occasions where he went after a good delivery and nearly got out.

Also those cut shots he keeps playing close to his body needs to be eradicted from his game (for tests only). Playing those shots are alright in t20s, odis but its not the shot to be playing in tests. One of the golden rules in cricket is to never cut a ball too close to the body. You can easily get beaten with extra bounce. Those shots just expose you too easily in tests.
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Old April 26, 2013, 07:05 PM
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needs to work on his bowling to, t20 has had a not so good impact on his bowling.
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Old April 26, 2013, 07:15 PM
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needs to work on his bowling to, t20 has had a not so good impact on his bowling.
yeah what happened to Shakib.
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Old April 26, 2013, 11:40 PM
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Definitely getting his mojo back in record time.
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Old April 27, 2013, 01:25 AM
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Oh yes. Getting back on song. An in form Shakib is miles ahead of Zimbabwe's best player.
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Old April 27, 2013, 02:39 AM
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needs to work on his bowling to, t20 has had a not so good impact on his bowling.
Not only him, but looks like Gazi is also a victim of T20.
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Old April 27, 2013, 02:57 AM
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Gazi might be a victim of too many matches. He looks down and out.
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Old April 27, 2013, 09:16 AM
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Not only him, but looks like Gazi is also a victim of T20.
totally agree. His grouping of deliveries nowhere as good as ive seen in the past.
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Old April 27, 2013, 10:31 AM
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i missed shakib's wicket, when i opened the tv they were showing shakib's out, i thought they were showing how shakib was out in the 1st innings, to my disbelief it was not the 1st innings but the 2nd innings, how can somebody get out exactly the way he got out in the 1st innings of the same test?

Shakib was the last guy i expected this form
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Old April 27, 2013, 10:38 AM
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He was only 16 runs away from 2000 Test runs. Really silly. Probably reduced our total by at least 40 runs by playing that shot (considering how set he was).
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Old April 27, 2013, 10:41 AM
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He was only 16 runs away from 2000 Test runs. Really silly. Probably reduced our total by at least 40 runs by playing that shot (considering how set he was).
He was iching to get out since 40. How many lives he got? 4?
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Old April 27, 2013, 10:42 AM
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Rubbish stuff from no where again..We need a specialist batting coach who can help with brain freezes..BADLY..
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Old April 27, 2013, 10:43 AM
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i missed shakib's wicket, when i opened the tv they were showing shakib's out, i thought they were showing how shakib was out in the 1st innings, to my disbelief it was not the 1st innings but the 2nd innings, how can somebody get out exactly the way he got out in the 1st innings of the same test?

Shakib was the last guy i expected this form
He got the first hand training from his peers Sir Ashraful. Waching from the front seat time and again...

Or I am sure he had a bet with Hamilton.
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Old April 27, 2013, 10:43 AM
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And not to mention after all the chances..he really shouldve knuckled down to close the day off..
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Old April 27, 2013, 10:58 AM
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It is very important not to conflate apparent compactness with good technique and good technique with orthodox technique. While we're at it, let us stop conflating swing with movement off the seam.

Anyway, Shakib ALWAYS plays with a technique that works well for him. That's why his consistency driven numbers speak for themselves. He gets away with a lot of ugly things with the bat because he is the type of rare anomaly who can. Capable of rotating the strike with ease, he's also capable of patiently building an innings on 1s, 2s AND high percentage shots. Perhaps someday he will begin to do just that and when he does, we'll see him convert these 50s to 100s and 150s. Like Mijan, Beamer and many others in this forum who have followed his career since debut, I too want to see him taking chances with lower percentage shots when he's on 150 and not in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s or 96!

He has to realize that harder work, including the mental work that needs to go into being the type of cricketer he can be, will only make him better. We have no other choice but to wait until he and only he decides to make that happen. In the meantime, let us be eternally grateful that he is someone who succeeds an ef of a lot more than he fails with either bat or ball.
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Old April 27, 2013, 11:12 AM
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He should know only few overs left for the day ! At the end of a crucial day he did the the same mistake ! I was watching and was anticipating his stupidity and that really happened !!
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Old April 27, 2013, 11:18 AM
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I have seen him many times get out same manner after a hardwork, many times really! I can guaranty his kind of people will be fired or put aside if he had to work with highly professional techno job other than sports, doing the same mistake over and over again. It not just him but entirely our culture disease, this kind of foolish, destructive manner will naver be able to do a good job with foreign culture. I am really disappointed to see how he presenting himself as an idiot to the wrold, he should be much much better than he presents.
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Old April 27, 2013, 11:23 AM
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Huh shakib! your dismissals are like something i don't wanna say
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Old April 27, 2013, 11:50 AM
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I have seen him many times get out same manner after a hardwork, many times really! I can guaranty his kind of people will be fired or put aside if he had to work with highly professional techno job other than sports, doing the same mistake over and over again. It not just him but entirely our culture disease, this kind of foolish, destructive manner will naver be able to do a good job with foreign culture. I am really disappointed to see how he presenting himself as an idiot to the wrold, he should be much much better than he presents.
You think he may be afraid of success at times?
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Old April 27, 2013, 12:17 PM
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I have seen him many times get out same manner after a hardwork, many times really! I can guaranty his kind of people will be fired or put aside if he had to work with highly professional techno job other than sports, doing the same mistake over and over again. It not just him but entirely our culture disease, this kind of foolish, destructive manner will naver be able to do a good job with foreign culture. I am really disappointed to see how he presenting himself as an idiot to the wrold, he should be much much better than he presents.
I personally would refuse to put such strong criticism on him. Yes, it's shameful almost that he keeps repeating his mistake but then again doesnt that just give a part of his game to work on? Shakib is one of the best we got, and sooner rather than later he will realize where the weakness lie and slowly rectify it. You can't expect a person to be perfect, he has done very well where others have faltered and i give kudos to him for it. As for the mention about culture, i understand you are dissapointed but its almost illogical to generalize a whole culture or country on a mistake. Give him time, believe in him and with time as he has shown before, he will just get better.
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Old April 27, 2013, 12:17 PM
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You think he may be afraid of success at times?
How do you see any success or braveness when you leave the job to be done for others or half done?
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Old April 27, 2013, 12:49 PM
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Shakib is one of the best we got, and sooner rather than later he will realize where the weakness lie and slowly rectify it. You can't expect a person to be perfect, he has done very well where others have faltered and i give kudos to him for it. As for the mention about culture, i understand you are dissapointed but its almost illogical to generalize a whole culture or country on a mistake. Give him time, believe in him and with time as he has shown before, he will just get better.
He is our best, no doubt, but that doesnt issue him a licence to do the same mistake over and over again, not jut him it applies for everyone jodu, modhu, kodu. If anybody does that schoolboy thingy, he deserves to be criticise, simple as that. It would be even funny to argue on this in any other culture I think. You have every right to give 'kodus' or 'Kudos' to Shakib for that matter, but I dont, thats the way it is in the world. Illogical to generalize a whole culture? look around our country and compare it to the world, if you feel it is illogical then it may feel all good to you, but not to me, and thats the way it is again.

My believe on him wont do anything good for him, rather his believe on himself might do whatever good or bad for him, he must know better than anyone by now, that is the whole point.
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Old April 27, 2013, 01:48 PM
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He is our best, no doubt, but that doesnt issue him a licence to do the same mistake over and over again, not jut him it applies for everyone jodu, modhu, kodu. If anybody does that schoolboy thingy, he deserves to be criticise, simple as that. It would be even funny to argue on this in any other culture I think. You have every right to give 'kodus' or 'Kudos' to Shakib for that matter, but I dont, thats the way it is in the world. Illogical to generalize a whole culture? look around our country and compare it to the world, if you feel it is illogical then it may feel all good to you, but not to me, and thats the way it is again.

My believe on him wont do anything good for him, rather his believe on himself might do whatever good or bad for him, he must know better than anyone by now, that is the whole point.
I wholeheartedly agree with your last point that he should know his mistake by now and work on it. However i might be wrong but i get the idea what you are suggesting is that, shakib is almost willfully making the mistakes. Or to put it another way, he think he is too good to recognize he is at fault. Either way, i would not agree with you. As a player he has stood up for the country again and again but like any player he has his weaknesses. When he repeats his mistakes, you have every right to criticize and as you should, but to downplay his achievements to the level of labelling him as an "idiot" isn't necessarily right in my books.

As for the comment on our culture, of course different people have different interpretation of things around them, I would say there is the good and the bad and not put a general label on anything. But who knows with age, that view might change.
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